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Title: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on November 21, 2008, 11:25:02 pm
I've been looking and looking for a thread I thought I remembered by this name.  I felt it was due for a resurrection.  But no joy.  So I'm starting it over... in honor of a bang-up day in the SlidemanSailor household.

I picked up 25-pound bags of red beans and rice and ordered 25 pounds of oat germ due in Sunday.  I also bought another 2,000 large rifle primers.  There you have pieces of the three essentials beans-bullets-bullion.  So much to do with so little time and money.

I was inspired by a friend who needed help learning to point the .357 he bought on my recommendation in the right direction.  I met him at the gun club's indoor range this evening for a long-overdue fling with my grandpa's .22 High Standard match pistol and some refamiliarization with full-power .357 auto outta my Glock 32.  A whole buncha good stuff from that trip... not the least of which is I ended up coaching two novices into hitting paper at 50 feet with their respective snubbies.  We need lots and lots of them.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Phssthpok on November 22, 2008, 09:38:51 am
I went to the gun show .

Augmented my .308 CETME box magazine count by 8 units (@ a mere $5 each!)
Bought 500 Rds of 7.62x54R for my M44 'Belfchfire'.
Picked up an 'intro to reloading' type book
Purchased a field surgical kit...something I've been wanting for a while.

The .357 Marlin I was hoping to get is apparently made of unobtainium...at least as far the show was concerned. :brood:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on November 22, 2008, 09:47:07 am
Great idea to resurrect this topic, SMS.  :thumbsup:

I ordered a Kelly Kettle (http://www.kellykettle.com/homepage). 

And Thunder brought home an upright freezer he got just for the towing.  We're going to clean it out, then start filling it up...any suggestions?   ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Claire on November 22, 2008, 09:53:40 am
I finally filled one notable gap in my emergency preps: I picked up a hand-crank radio at the local hardware store.

I had one in the past, but I didn't get custody of it when my SO and I split. I was very overdue for getting a new one.

Funny, you used to have to order them from survival stores. Now, for $9.99, you can find them blister-packed among the camping supplies, even in an obscure berg like this one.

Claire

P.S. The Kelly Kettle looks very cool, Lightning. I wish they made a stainless steel version. But what a clever device.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Claire on November 22, 2008, 09:59:04 am
I picked up 25-pound bags of red beans and rice and ordered 25 pounds of oat germ due in Sunday.  I also bought another 2,000 large rifle primers.  There you have pieces of the three essentials beans-bullets-bullion.  So much to do with so little time and money.

Very, very good, slideman!

Will you satisfy my curiosity about one thing? That oat germ; what are you going to do with it?

Twenty-five pounds seems like a lot to consume in a short time, but I can't imagine that it will keep more than a few months uless you freeze it.

Claire
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lisa Aenne on November 22, 2008, 10:03:37 am
I've been learning how to grow sprouts in a glass jar.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on November 22, 2008, 10:14:51 am
Good topic.

We picked up a couple of ammo cans, survival saws for the small kits, and a book on knots. 

The Kelly Kettle looks like a nice one.  We picked up a copper Thermette a few months ago, and your post reminded me we've yet to try it out.

Sprouting is good to know.  I think having a good supply of sprout seeds is key - it's a source of fresh veggies and sooooo much nutrition, and when the SHTF, it may be awhile before you can get a productive garden going.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on November 22, 2008, 03:58:45 pm
Ooh, Nomads, thanks!  I didn't know there was a copper version of such a kettle!  Like you, Claire, I would have preferred something other than aluminum...hmm...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on November 22, 2008, 05:16:23 pm
Nothing today, but
This week I bought a water purifier, and an extra ceramic filter at the camping outfitter's shop. Good to .2 microns. 
I was trying to find a place to get a money order denominated in Pounds Sterling, so that I could order a Kelly Kettle, but this will do in the mean time. Then, I looked on Ebay, and found Kelly Kettles there, for sale in FRNs.
I try to do something every week  for prepping. Last week it was new camo raincoats. In alpenflage,*  to match my swiss army coat, hat, and jacket. The week before, a military surplus entrenching tool, far sturdier than the cheap, NEW, Wally World one that it replaces. And EVERY week, a little more canned or other storage food. Or perhaps baby powder, peroxide, wet wipes, aluminum foil, plastic sheeting, or some other handy item at the dollar store. Next week ?  So far I have decided on some LARGE plastic wire ties. The kind the cops use when they run out of cuffs. What else ?  Who knows ?  ^_^

* (edited for anti-data-mining purposes)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on November 22, 2008, 07:44:14 pm
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That oat germ; what are you going to do with it?

Twenty-five pounds seems like a lot to consume in a short time, but I can't imagine that it will keep more than a few months unless you freeze it.
I don't know about the germ in particular but all things oat keep much better than other grains.  It is full of vitamin E, a preservative.  I always add a cup to a batch of bread to prevent mold and help it stay soft.  It easily doubles the counter life of a loaf.  I also put it in quick breads for the same reason in smaller amounts.

Today I made Crabapple Jelly with my meet-up group.  Next month, Bread!
Last month, we made a debris hut.  Before that, sauerkraut.
Last week I obtained a log to make into a fleshing beam so I can get started tanning the deer hide that is sitting on my porch.  Today I was given another book and a tool for that project.

Can I bunch them up like this?  I am not much of a daily chronicler.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on November 22, 2008, 07:55:49 pm
Ooh, Nomads, thanks!  I didn't know there was a copper version of such a kettle!  Like you, Claire, I would have preferred something other than aluminum...hmm...

Here's the link:    http://www.thermette.com/
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on November 22, 2008, 11:25:21 pm
I picked up 25-pound bags of red beans and rice and ordered 25 pounds of oat germ due in Sunday.  I also bought another 2,000 large rifle primers.  There you have pieces of the three essentials beans-bullets-bullion.  So much to do with so little time and money.

Very, very good, slideman!

Will you satisfy my curiosity about one thing? That oat germ; what are you going to do with it?

Twenty-five pounds seems like a lot to consume in a short time, but I can't imagine that it will keep more than a few months uless you freeze it.

Claire

Uh oh.  My ignorance is not only showing a little bit, it is in big, blazing lights for all to see.  I am, of course, trying to maximize the volume of foodstuffs my modest inflow of depreciating FRNs can deliver.  Mrs Sailor does a whole lot of cooking with bran.  I educated myself just enough to decide oat was better than wheat and immediately made a bulk purchase. 

I guess I'll now be tying up expensive freezer space with it rather than discovering its shelf life is too dang short for our consumption rate.

Frankly, I'm a bit flustered in my head right now.  The feds, the Rothschilds, the Marxists, the Bohemians and all of those other guys who I would turn to manure as an upgrade if I were offered the lever that could do such a thing, have so won the minds of the overwhelming majority that I am struggling to make sense out of anything.  Even those in my family who respect me in every other way have requested I quit sending "political" messages via voice and e-mail. They want to believe all is well so badly that the messenger is unwelcome.

With that happening in places where I have been honored, I really know the Mogambo Guru is right when he writes, "We are all freaking doomed!!!"  (the number of exclamation points varies).

So now my brain is very much cluttered with "PREPARE THYSELF"
... and my gosh, how many of us are there?
... can their trick weapons overwhelm us?
... where do you get tar and feathers?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Radio Flyer on November 23, 2008, 02:36:50 am
How about this week.

Ordered 3000 bullets a new 8 lbs. keg of rifle powder, and 5000 primers from an online reloading supply.

Started buying extra cans of food, dry rice, dry beans, and salt... (just throw in about 10 extra bucks each trip).

Showed the kids how to use the pressure cooker.

Sat the family down and Mom and Dad talked about the current problems and how the kids think about it, reviewed plans and talked about not building a panic, I was surprised at what the kids are talking about with the other kids at school. We re-stressed the need for "privacy" and "discretion".

Showed the oldest more about reloading.

Talked about plans for a loss of clients and work with Mom and the Kids.

Visit the range every two days to pick up brass and shoot .22 guns with alternating kids.

Take stock of current food items and check for infestation.

Added a box of .22 every trip to Wally World (adds about 15 bucks).


Try not to worry too much... (I don't think its working).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on November 23, 2008, 03:15:26 am
Loaded 20 rounds of .308 Winchester with the following:

Hornady brass (Frontier headstamp)
Remington #9 1/2 Large Rifle Primers
44.1 grains Ramshot TAC
165 gr. Hornady SST

Why only 20 rounds?  Because I don't know if either of my bolt guns will shoot this load well, so it's an experiment.  I have 2 other boxes of .308 brass to load as well (already sized and deprimed).  Not going to do it right now because A) It's 3 AM and 2) my hands are still a little sore from getting firewood today (not long term prep, just normal winter work for us) and using that Lee hand press didn't help.  Now if I could only get to the range in the mood to sit down at the bench with the goal of trying to shoot tiny groups...  We may go next Friday, weather permitting, but that will probably be a plinking with .22s trip... ("plinking" and "plink" are evidently not recognized by the site's spell checker...).

Why use the hand press and not my compound leverage bench mounted press?  Because it would have been even more work to clean off my workbench (it has a partially disassembled 2-stroke motorcycle engine sitting on it, along with other things that have collected) and remount the press to it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on November 23, 2008, 05:46:37 am
Well, actually yesterday as it is 6:30 AM here. Continued work on building a reloading bench (I am a cabinet maker). I have been half-a$$ing my reloading process for years, working on cobbled up places... but in a few days I will have a 6 foot bench with two cabinets of 8 drawers for all the stuff.

I also went out to the field to work with my bees. getting the girls settled down for a cold winter (real... not political). I was kinda hoping that "global warming" would kick in soon, as it is cold as hell here and it is WAY too early.

I have a HUGE larder and Mrs. Hammer and I can very often. We probably have some 500 jars either filled on the shelf or waiting to be filled. On second thought, that number may be closer to 1,000. (Thanks Jackie Clay). Two full size freezers with food waiting to be processed into jars. Chickens and pork, fruits, squash, pumpkin.....

Way too much to do. I worry about the freezers, which is why we continually work to put into jars, and why I installed a 12KW generator on the house that automatically kicks in when the power drops off.

More than I can remember. It took lots of work. Read... read... read. Learn. Go do. Prep is something like this... if some is good... more is better.... and too much is just about right!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on November 23, 2008, 10:18:41 am
Yesterday I bought 100 rds of Winchester white box .45 ACP (185g FMJ) and a Dutch oven.  Re-packed my new Kelty Red Cloud internal frame back pack with all the gear for my new bug out bag.  A little too heavy for my old lard butt so will have to work on lightening it up.  Maybe some helium in my fuel and water bottles.   :laugh:

BTW Cheaper than Dirt has the Alpenflage rain ponchos for $6.  I have some and they seem to be good quality.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ShortyDawkins on November 23, 2008, 10:40:51 am
  I've been steadily gathering food, supplies and clothing, and a little bit of barter goods. Bought a used kerosene lantern at the Thrift Store. Two pair of good boots. Looking to go to the upcoming gun show in Bozeman early in December.

  Shorty Dawkins
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on November 23, 2008, 04:38:40 pm
Yesterday I bought 100 rds of Winchester white box .45 ACP (185g FMJ) and a Dutch oven.  Re-packed my new Kelty Red Cloud internal frame back pack with all the gear for my new bug out bag.  A little too heavy for my old lard butt so will have to work on lightening it up.  Maybe some helium in my fuel and water bottles.   :laugh:

BTW Cheaper than Dirt has the Alpenflage rain ponchos for $6.  I have some and they seem to be good quality.

FWIW, I wouldn't buy from Cheaper Than Dirt.  Here's why:  There is an AR-15 magazine shortage right now due to panic buying since Obama's election.  CTD jacked up their prices by between 300 and 400% overnight (more in some cases), which is fine in and of itself, free market and all.  But CTD is also showing that MSRP/list price on their AR-15 magazines have also gone up by a similar percentage, which is not true. 

As an example, they show C-Products aluminum 30 round AR-15 magazines as having a list price of $37.46 with their "low price" of $24.97.  If you go to C-Products' website, however, you will see them selling the exact same magazine for $11.50.  CTD is willing to lie, outright, to their customers.  That is hardly a healthy business model.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on November 23, 2008, 08:02:04 pm
Our 25-pound bag of oat bran came home today.  I did some rummaging around on the Internet.  It appears that it will sit out a year in our pantry without ill effects.  That's all we were needing it to do.  I'm confident we can consume it easily in that amount of time.

We reserved some buckets for one week hence from our local grocery store bakery.  I'm hoping they include some 2 - 3.5 gallon sized in our find. Though 5-gallon do the trick, it would be nice to have some smaller ones that stay closed for 6 months.  If this place doesn't deliver smaller ones, I'll have finding some in the back of my head until they do actually turn up.

Some sticks of wood came home with us today. After a pass through my table saw they will hold opaque visqueen over the holes in my barn-to-be-shop.  I must get off my duff and get the wiring to the shop and plumbing to the irrigation hydrants done soon.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on November 23, 2008, 08:38:18 pm
Shared some time with like minded folks and just took the day off from brush work. Gotta love weekends.   ^_^ mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on November 23, 2008, 11:07:00 pm
Cranked out another 20 rounds of .308 today:

Remington brass
Remington # 9 1/2 large rifle primers
43.1 grains of Winchester 748
155 grain Hornady A-Max bullet

Another 20 round box to go, then I might have to see if I can figure out what I did with the Lake City Match brass and work up some more experimental loads with it....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on November 24, 2008, 08:52:13 am
This weekend I put up 11 quarts of applesauce, and finally plugged in the chest freezer I got from my parents and put ten Thanksgiving-special turkeys in it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on November 24, 2008, 11:09:52 am
This one may seem trivial, but not to me. I have already stocked up on BBQ sauce and spices, a necessity to liven up meals if one is subsisting on rice dishes, etc., but a couple of weeks ago I purchased a box of 1000 single servings of ketchup from a local restaurant supply store. Now I sleep much better at night.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on November 24, 2008, 01:57:59 pm
Joker, that doesn't sound trivial at all to me, especially since you don't want to get food burnout....everyone needs flavor in their life.  As for me, I have quit saving money from my paychecks altogether.  I am having such a hard time finding enough pm's to convert my real saving to so adding to the problems won't solve it.  We've been buying heavy duty shelving and lots of canned good supplies and toiletries.  Even if i have to crap in the woods i'd still like my northern tissue to wipe my butt with....we all need some pampering don't you think.  Just cause it's the end of the world doesn't mean we can't go pampered into the dark ages.  lol
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on November 24, 2008, 03:20:22 pm
Here's something that Mrs. J and I did today- we practiced using our hand-held two-way radios. Like any equipment, to be any good when needed, tools such as these must be readily accessible (and kept in the same place at all times), kept in ready mode (in this case charged up), and you must be familiar with their features and know how to use (and/or misuse) them.  ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: grits55 on November 24, 2008, 07:34:05 pm
I just spent awhile writing a post (I'm one of the REAL newbies who doesn't know anything about doing this) and it disappeared.   If I did would it be posted by now?  Please forgive my ignorance.   I was really excited to tell you all that I'm finally doing things to prepare.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on November 24, 2008, 07:40:25 pm
This one may seem trivial, but not to me. I have already stocked up on BBQ sauce and spices, a necessity to liven up meals if one is subsisting on rice dishes, etc., but a couple of weeks ago I purchased a box of 1000 single servings of ketchup from a local restaurant supply store. Now I sleep much better at night.  :laugh:

"A man can live on packaged protein forever if he has enough spices."
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: grits55 on November 24, 2008, 07:56:30 pm
Okay, I gather I just lost it.  My first post and it was to ask what happened to my lost post.  

I ordered heirloom seeds and a large supply of freeze dried food that last ten years.  My huband bought a 17mm fireball and a 12ngauge and 2000 rounds for both.  He also bought  2000 rounds of black powder ammo , 209 primers, and alot of ammo for his other guns.  I spent hours this weekend reading about survival.  I contacted a company about buying gold.  I looked into paying off my mortgage.  We also made jerkey from some geese he shot.

This is so exciting to me, because I have been trying for months and months to get my husband to see the need and he finally has.  Before, all he would agree to was getting more guns  and  buying a 120 acre piece of property that I have been trying to get him to build us a non electric/non plumbed cabin in the middle of.   He still isn't ready to build it, but at least he is waking up.  

I can't tell you how wonderful it is to be in the company of like minded people.  Everyone has been so kind to respond to my questions.  I hope that I can contribute too, someday.  We are just in the beginning stages here.  But it is a START.  
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on November 24, 2008, 07:58:45 pm
I just spent awhile writing a post (I'm one of the REAL newbies who doesn't know anything about doing this) and it disappeared.   If I did would it be posted by now?  Please forgive my ignorance.   I was really excited to tell you all that I'm finally doing things to prepare.

I am NOT a newbie, and the same thing happened to me last night. It could have MANY causes. In my case it probably happened because my hard drive is over 99% full.   :rolleyes: I will have to delete some files, because I apparently don't have enough ROOM to use my disc drive to dump  them off on a disk. :laugh:

It is dumb of me, I know...
Welcome !
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on November 24, 2008, 08:01:28 pm
I bought: How to Grow MORE VEGETABLES...Than You Ever Thought Possible on Less Land Than You Can Imagine by: John Jeavons

And ordered some heritage seeds from the Ark Institute today.  Gonna use all those cold winter nights to read and plan my garden next spring.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: merlin419 on November 25, 2008, 01:31:47 am
OK, over the last 2 weeks I've gathered 10 turkeys that I will start canning later this week, sealed 100 lbs of pinto beans in buckets, ordered a solar battery charger for my handheld radios, added 45 canning jars, 6 dozen extra canning lids, added Carla Emery's "Country Living" to my library, walked over 60 miles (I walk to and from work and everywhere else I need to go), put 45 lbs of hard winter wheat in buckets, started cutting up old t-shirts into squares for a biscuit quilt. Now I remember why the last two weeks seemed to fly by fast.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: clarence on November 25, 2008, 02:42:41 am
OK, over the last 2 weeks I've gathered 10 turkeys that I will start canning later this week, sealed 100 lbs of pinto beans in buckets, ordered a solar battery charger for my handheld radios, added 45 canning jars, 6 dozen extra canning lids, added Carla Emery's "Country Living" to my library, walked over 60 miles (I walk to and from work and everywhere else I need to go), put 45 lbs of hard winter wheat in buckets, started cutting up old t-shirts into squares for a biscuit quilt. Now I remember why the last two weeks seemed to fly by fast.

busy, busy, nice to see you back here posting. still working at the 'box store not to be named'?

clarence

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Jebur27 on November 25, 2008, 04:37:59 am
I just spent awhile writing a post (I'm one of the REAL newbies who doesn't know anything about doing this) and it disappeared.   If I did would it be posted by now?  Please forgive my ignorance.   I was really excited to tell you all that I'm finally doing things to prepare.
Sometimes, if I'm making a long-ish post, I will do it in NotePad and then Copy & Paste into here.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on November 25, 2008, 10:15:13 pm
As fulltime RVers, we can't carry everything we own with us, but we have a mini-storage locker for the overflow - lol.  Today I went to the locker and pulled out some old books for review, including "Tappan On Survival."  Haven't looked at it in years, but figure it's worth another look-see.  Also pulled out "Indian Doctor" and  "Common Edible and Useful Plants of the West."
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Joel on November 28, 2008, 07:12:42 am
Got back last night from my first trip to the city in almost a year and a half.  Got my leg refurbished and a new super-duper foot installed which should improve my broken-ground mobility dramatically.  Without the (removeable) camouflaging cover I now look like The Terminator from the calf down; it's not even remotely human looking, but it's got a sort-of anthropomorphic covering that lets you put conventional boots on over it.

While there I loaded up on 200 more pounds of bulk food and a couple of cases of condiments, sauces and other supplies.  Also closed a long-standing deal on a new #2 EBR, which came home with me.  Met some new friends, renewed and strengthened some old friendships. 

It was a good trip, though it reminded me of the long list of reasons I don't go to cities.  Two days in I was anxious to get home, by yesterday I was frantic to even if I had to turn down a turkey dinner.  Fortunately, having no choice, I got the dinner and also got home eventually anyway.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on November 28, 2008, 09:17:44 am
Over the past couple of days I took four chicken carcasses out of the freezer and made my first serious foray into stock-making. Before that I'd done small quantities in a crock pot.

First I loaded the carcasses into the big pressure cooker/canner with a gallon of water and cooked at 15lbs for 30 minutes. This did a pretty good job. The smaller bones were even crumbly when I strained it. It did turn out to be a mistake as far as the meat was concerned: the meat I picked off the bones afterward was tough and dry and even looked "burned" in spots. I saved it to see if any use could be made of it anyway, maybe as chicken salad.

The thoroughly-picked-over bones I packed into the small crock pot and simmered another 24 hours with another quart of water, and got a creditable stock from that as well. The previous six quarts really did come out like jello jigglers--it was pretty amazing.

Finally, last night I skimmed the fat off the top, added skin from the stock pot, and made schmaltz. It was my first attempt at homemade schmaltz, but I think it worked pretty well. At first the water in the fat boiled, making the pot bubble. Then it got to making big bubbles (like a rice pot boiling over), and finally settled down to foaming. By that point the cracklins had started frying and getting a bit burnt, so I strained it twice into a clean pot and put it back on the heat. For another 5-10 minutes it made that popping sound that a fryer does when there's a little water in. When that stopped, I poured it into heated four-ounce canning jars, wipe the rims and sealed them. Another hour or so after that they were cool enough for the fridge.

I'm about to check whether they actually made a good seal. There were seven jars altogether, a bit less than a quart. I'll be putting six of them in the freezer and scrambling my eggs this morning in some of the seventh.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on November 28, 2008, 07:56:54 pm
Within the last 2 weeks:

1. Bought 2 more cases of Ball canning jars and lids.
2. Ordered a kettle and tray for hot water canning (high acid foods).
3. Bought a new set of tires for the daily-driver Jeep.
4. Did some Jeep maintenance - replaced the Throttle Position Sensor (runs a lot better now).
5. Spread the left over sand from the patio project in the potato patch, to improve the soil.
6. Home maintenance / security - Replaced the old low pressure sodium lamp over the garage
    with a brighter high pressure sodium lamp.
7. Hung black-out curtains over the remaining bedroom windows that didn't have them.
8. Home brewed a batch of Christmas ale - for barter, in case TSHTF soon.  :occasion14:

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on November 29, 2008, 10:35:18 pm
Today?

Butchered deer....gotta keep in practice! ;)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on November 30, 2008, 01:53:21 am
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I ordered heirloom seeds and a large supply of freeze dried food that last ten years. 

Grits55,

Today I sat down with my wife to start planning our vegetable garden for next year. We'll probably be
sending in our seed order to Seed Savers soon. I've been trying to get real methodical about it by starting
off with what she wants from the garden, and the working backwards from there to make a planting
schedule, but I think I'm just going to have to wing it this time. She has agreed to can/dry/ or freeze
any of the surplus.

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My huband bought a 17mm fireball and a 12ngauge and 2000 rounds for both.  He also bought  2000 rounds of black powder ammo , 209 primers, and alot of ammo for his other guns.  I spent hours this weekend reading about survival.  I contacted a company about buying gold.  I looked into paying off my mortgage.  We also made jerkey from some geese he shot.

That's very cool!  :occasion14:

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This is so exciting to me, because I have been trying for months and months to get my husband to see the need and he finally has.  Before, all he would agree to was getting more guns  and  buying a 120 acre piece of property that I have been trying to get him to build us a non electric/non plumbed cabin in the middle of.   He still isn't ready to build it, but at least he is waking up.

My wife has gone from thinking that I have a bunker mentality to thinking we are seeing the
opening scenes of the End of Western Civilization. She wonders how I can be calm about it,
and I explain that I've just been thinking about it longer, and planning, and doing what we
can with what we have. I would say she "gets it" now, but just doesn't have as much sang froid
as I do.
 
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I can't tell you how wonderful it is to be in the company of like minded people.  Everyone has been so kind to respond to my questions.  I hope that I can contribute too, someday.  We are just in the beginning stages here.  But it is a START. 

Doing ANYTHING is the first and hardest step, because it means that you recognize that
there is a problem. Many folks are just more comfortable with denial.

Good Luck,

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Radio Flyer on November 30, 2008, 04:25:14 am
Today...

Bought the, now traditional, extra food at the store with the regular grocery run...

15 cans of assorted veggies, beans, soup, and meat (chili for the kids).

4 "on sale" large bags of beans, ten bean soup, lentils, chick peas, black beans...

Nothing big, just integrating "extra for later" as a standard action.

And prepped 250 .308 cases.

Oh, yea, started my blog...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on November 30, 2008, 06:08:49 am
Today...

Bought the, now traditional, extra food at the store with the regular grocery run...

15 cans of assorted veggies, beans, soup, and meat (chili for the kids).

4 "on sale" large bags of beans, ten bean soup, lentils, chick peas, black beans...

Nothing big, just integrating "extra for later" as a standard action.

And prepped 250 .308 cases.

Oh, yea, started my blog...

Congratulations, it's a big step, throwing your self out there possibly laid bare.

Good for you!!!!

I wanted to start one until I was given my own section of an other forum I have been a member of for a few years.  Now I am tooo busy!!!!!!

They decided that I have a refreshingly unique view, that coupled with my family/home  skills will bring in new membership. (Read crazy but darned entertaining and knowledgeable at all things frugal and crafty at the same time.) I am now officially a NICHE.  :laugh:

Cough up your site address so I can support a fellow prepper!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on November 30, 2008, 01:27:39 pm
I picked up 5 3-gallon buckets with lids from the mini-chain grocery nearby. They had held frosting, but were pretty darn clean when they gave them to me.  They said we could repeat the process two weeks hence.  Cool.  Those deals still exist.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Radio Flyer on November 30, 2008, 04:57:23 pm
Today...

Bought the, now traditional, extra food at the store with the regular grocery run...

15 cans of assorted veggies, beans, soup, and meat (chili for the kids).

4 "on sale" large bags of beans, ten bean soup, lentils, chick peas, black beans...

Nothing big, just integrating "extra for later" as a standard action.

And prepped 250 .308 cases.

Oh, yea, started my blog...

Congratulations, it's a big step, throwing your self out there possibly laid bare.

Good for you!!!!

I wanted to start one until I was given my own section of an other forum I have been a member of for a few years.  Now I am tooo busy!!!!!!

They decided that I have a refreshingly unique view, that coupled with my family/home  skills will bring in new membership. (Read crazy but darned entertaining and knowledgeable at all things frugal and crafty at the same time.) I am now officially a NICHE.  :laugh:

Cough up your site address so I can support a fellow prepper!

http://preparednesssubculture.blogspot.com/

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throwing your self out there possibly laid bare

I'm not too concerned about that, I don't talk too much about location, and the typical thug has problems reading much more using a computer, I have lots of form 4437s out there so the "government" would have no problem putting me on a list... The government is the last thing I am worried about at this point...

Currently I put up all of my rifle related posts with modifications and will be adding to that as it goes...

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on November 30, 2008, 10:17:08 pm
Moved some scopes around to help "better" situate them.

Radio Flyer, you like bolt .22's, but I didn't see any large caliber bolt rifles on your blog! 

Nice do'in's by the way! ;)

Like them bolt .22's me-self, and it don't take that long to run through a brick or two.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 02, 2008, 04:13:19 pm
Rotated mags and canned goods. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on December 02, 2008, 04:30:09 pm
Our christmas present to ourselves this year is a Family Grain Mill.  We are getting both the grinder and the flaker (I already have a meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen Aid mixer), and we got both the motor and the hand-crank for it.  It should arrive on Thursday.  This weekend I'm going to go buy some wheat.

I've actually become quite a decent baker since I started making my own bread.  Today I made a spinach bread.  I didn't have a recipe or anything.  Just nuked a small bowl full of frozen, chopped spinach.  Then I drained it using a collander, collecting the green water in my measuring cup (to add the rest of the required water after draining) and squished it real good to get most of the water out of it.  Then just used my normal bread recipe with a hint less water, a generous amount of gluten, and a 3:1 ratio of whole wheat to bread flour.  It came out suprisingly nice.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on December 03, 2008, 01:30:08 am
I ate some apples.

Seriously.  I bought a bag of apples before Thanksgiving as a healthier alternative to the junk food I normally snack on.  About 2 or 3 apples into the bag, I decided to start saving the seeds.  I figure if I can get a few of them to sprout, I may be able to get a few apple trees going.  With any luck, at least one of them will eventually produce some apples.  Our pear tree usually does pretty well, so no reason to think apple trees wouldn't, too.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: freewoman on December 03, 2008, 05:27:03 am
Apple trees from seed take many years to develop and bear fruit.  I do have an article from a British permaculture magazine on that subject; however, the trees in question, though they had actually grown substantially, had not borne fruit up to the point of the writing of the article.  From what I understand, though, it is botanically possible, especially if the apple is an heirloom type.  However, the apples you get might not be exactly the same as the apple you ate, since most commercially-produced apples come from various tree stocks and are cross-pollinated with different types of apples.  Let's just hope we're all still here 6-8 years from now, so we can find out how your experiment turned out!

Good on you for changing your eating habits now.  It's hard to do in the face of all the junk that's everywhere.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Alton Speers on December 03, 2008, 10:16:44 am
Over the past week we've added a larger freezer to replace a much older and smaller freezer. It was used and we got it free. Made the obligatory trip to the meat market and filled it up. Should last until about June.

Earlier in the summer we went to an auction and I was the winning bidder on a nice Fuji 12 speed bicycle for the wife. It needed some cleaning and a few minor adjustments but for a few a bucks and a little time it was a great deal. Decided it was time to get a bike for me. Checked out Craig's List and found nothing I wanted. Shopped the department stores online. Found a good deal at K-mart on a Schwinn. Kind of an uptick in quality for K-mart since the bought out Sears. Monday went to K-mart and bought a new Schwinn (a display model) for a substantial discount  because the model I wanted wasn't there and the wife spotted a minor tear in the side of the seat. Now we each have a nice bike.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on December 03, 2008, 10:42:52 am
I shoveled the snow off the driveway  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on December 03, 2008, 04:42:38 pm
Apple trees from seed take many years to develop and bear fruit.  I do have an article from a British permaculture magazine on that subject; however, the trees in question, though they had actually grown substantially, had not borne fruit up to the point of the writing of the article.  From what I understand, though, it is botanically possible, especially if the apple is an heirloom type.  However, the apples you get might not be exactly the same as the apple you ate, since most commercially-produced apples come from various tree stocks and are cross-pollinated with different types of apples.  Let's just hope we're all still here 6-8 years from now, so we can find out how your experiment turned out!

Good on you for changing your eating habits now.  It's hard to do in the face of all the junk that's everywhere.

No need to be in a hurry to get fruit from the trees.  In the mean time, they can provide shade if nothing else.  And I'm not terribly worried about the apples being the same as what I bought in the store.  As long as they're edible, I'm OK with it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: yorick on December 03, 2008, 07:26:20 pm
biked 20 miles in the ice & snow  :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Alton Speers on December 04, 2008, 05:09:40 am
biked 20 miles in the ice & snow  :ph34r:

Yeah. I've discovered that I'm going to have to work up to that level. Ice and snow is no problem. 20 miles will have to be an objective for me. I also need to put some BenGay on the shopping list.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on December 04, 2008, 02:36:16 pm
I walked in the park and practiced my tracking skills.  I tracked a man and dog and thought I was close enough to catch them.  I was so intent, the two does scared the crap out of me. :laugh:
Then I examined my own tracks from the way in.  I learned a lot.
And got cold.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on December 04, 2008, 02:49:31 pm
Ordered a bunch of vegetable seeds, non-hybrid open pollinated.  Split some extra firewood to prepare for the snow predicted for tonight and again Monday. Rearranged the paper goods part of the pantry to get a clue what I actually have in there. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on December 04, 2008, 08:48:43 pm
amagi, I love to track! People, animals, just don't forget to look around every so often.

Study the length of the stride, the width, the type of shoes (for people), how they hit the ground. See if you can predict where they are going-and why. When all else fails, and all you are left with are smudges, the stride length can bail you out. Thats where the use of a tracking stick can come in handy.

Good Luck with your tracking, keep praticing!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: yorick on December 04, 2008, 09:36:24 pm
when I was a kid my dad would play a tracking game with us (4 brother's and I)

fresh snowfall - he'd say find me and take off into the woods.

we usually didn't find him but we learned a lot......
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on December 05, 2008, 01:37:20 pm
I finished putting up 12 quarts of cooked pinto beans (with onions, garlic, salt, pepper and schmaltz), and bought some more dried beans at Walmart.

Also found a good price there on rice--about $0.70/lb--and bought a ten pound bag. I've ordered five four-gallon food-grade plastic buckets to start packing rice -n- stuff in. The five of 'em came to about $30, but they're used. I'll have to wash out the stink of cherries after they arrive.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on December 05, 2008, 06:30:40 pm
Or have cherry flavored rice...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on December 05, 2008, 06:58:40 pm
The tracking came from going to Tracker School this summer.  I have to admit, it did change the way I see some things. 
Some of you all asked for a report which I never gave.  I can get on that if there is still interest.

I also skinned, scraped, and streached a racoon hide from a road kill.  There is a dear skin in the shed waiting for salt, then warmer weather.  Also, built a debris hut in a city park.  Would not have done those things previously.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 05, 2008, 07:18:23 pm
Or have cherry flavored rice...

I had ta do the same thing or mine would have been pickle flavored. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on December 05, 2008, 08:11:12 pm
amagi,

you could have frozen the skins almost indefinatly if you hadn't salted them, no biggie, and congratulations on tackling the skinning chores. Not many would tackle the skinning chores without help.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on December 06, 2008, 03:26:46 am
I did something a little unusual for me... I drove halfway across the country to visit some family after Thanksgiving. I have been so busy with th efarm and prep, that I forgot some of the lessons of life. Family matters. If there is a coming storm, I will rest knowing that I reached out and touched loved ones. They don't "get it", but I love them the same.

Seventeen hours in the car is hard on an old man.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on December 06, 2008, 11:28:20 am
I've taken to the aspect of using things in a new way, but mostly I've been using my knife for more things than just cutting bits of string(its a one inch knife, handy for scoring and precision work) I've started shaving with it, started disassembling watches and other small mechanical stuff with it, and cleaning out small locks and etc. I don't know if this qualifies as prepping, but knowing your tools, and everything they can do, would be handy...

     Bgolem
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Apple on December 06, 2008, 01:28:20 pm
The tracking came from going to Tracker School this summer.  I have to admit, it did change the way I see some things.
Some of you all asked for a report which I never gave.  I can get on that if there is still interest.

Ah, yes, I 'member. Didn't you go to Tom Brown's tracker school? So did you meet Tom Brown? Been meaning to ask you earlier when you mentioned tracking, but didn't get around to it. So yes, by all means... :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on December 07, 2008, 06:05:29 am
Bought 1000 rounds of .22 LR ammo at the gun show (I know, it's not a lot, but I want to test this particular ammo through a couple of guns before I buy a serious quantity of it).

Went and got another rick of firewood (8'x4'x22-26" for this one) for the house here.  Going to have to trim some of it down.  Our stove won't really take anything longer than 24".  Not really prep, but good exercise.

Helped a friend pick up a little cast iron box stove so he can have backup heat for the next winter power outage (we had a big ice storm around this time last year and he got cold).  I know that's not really prep for me, but it is preparation.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on December 07, 2008, 08:08:25 am
No need to be in a hurry to get fruit from the trees.  In the mean time, they can provide shade if nothing else.  And I'm not terribly worried about the apples being the same as what I bought in the store.  As long as they're edible, I'm OK with it.

Good deal on eating better, but don't count much on getting anything edible from your apple seedlings. It may take as much as 10 years for them to mature to that point, and they may never produce anything. Most commercial apples are from trees grafted to specially hardy root stock, which can make a big difference.

It can be fun to watch them grow, of course. Many years ago I had one about a foot and a half tall, three years old. Unfortunately, the dog ate it. Honest!!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on December 07, 2008, 09:29:10 am
About 2 or 3 apples into the bag, I decided to start saving the seeds.  I figure if I can get a few of them to sprout, I may be able to get a few apple trees going.  With any luck, at least one of them will eventually produce some apples.  Our pear tree usually does pretty well, so no reason to think apple trees wouldn't, too.

Stratify them to get them to sprout. If they get to 3-4" in diameter and still haven't borne fruit, whack 'em off at bout the 3' level and top graft a know variety on to it. If you get a fruit before then and it's not very flavorful, whack the tree off and graft onto it. No reason to waste perfectly good and established rootstocks. If the graft takes you should have fruit within 2 years.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on December 07, 2008, 10:16:27 am
O.K. so this isn't something that I did today but constitutes a new mindset for me which I am implementing into my daily life.

I have had a medical situation, that while not now serious, could be very serious in the future, I have completely ignored it, one because it is not inconvenient on a daily basis right now in my life and hospitals/surgeries in general creep me out. Decided to take care of it now while it is still possible. Also opted for just locals as my family can have deadly reactions to being put under. :rolleyes: Finally found a Doc that is willing to do it my way.

I haven't been doing much of anything lately, I've a had a few small surgeries in the last couple of weeks. On my mouth of all things. Joy rings out in Who ville. It's odd but this not being able to talk much or co-coherently has translated into me being almost a Hermit. I guess I could even stretch it into a some what CROSS hermit.  Of course the steady diet of smoothies, clear soups, yogurt with a shot of healthy greens or powdered protein (BLECHK, that stuff tastes like ...ummmm...well...exactly like.....yuck) and the more then occasional pint of Hagen dos are not exactly energy builders. Still sort of feel like hiding in house and waiting for winter to be done with already, yes I know it hasn't even started. Try to stay on topic will ya? Like I said feeling definitely down right Hermitty this year.

Three more to go all scheduled, finally after a year waiting, in the next month.  Smoothies are my life......

Don't put off medical issues!!!!!

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on December 07, 2008, 02:01:37 pm
For my birthday present, my wife took me, her and our daughter to a candle making craft store
to learn how to make candles. My daughter also bought me a book that was big on 'how-to' and
light on the fru-fru.

I came home with a  3 x 3" by 9" tall candle. My daughter made one that is oval in cross section,
about about 5 inches tall. My wife made an octagon candle about the same height.

We filled the molds with broken scrap wax and pieces of wax sheet, and then the mold was filled
with oil-scented wax of our choice.

I knew that candles made in a craft shop wouldn't be cost effective, but I think if the materials
are bought on line, this could be a useful thing to do. I lit my candle last night, and after 6 hours
of fairly bright light, the candle had only burned down about 1/2 inch.

There's interest at home now of getting some molds and a few tools, and making our own candles
this winter. Besides having some fun with this, candles could be a handy trade item.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Alton Speers on December 07, 2008, 04:43:42 pm
Bear, to help you out with scenting your candles (or anything else for that matter) here's a source for useful oils, chemicals and products for scenting candles, soaps, etc.: http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/advanced_search.php (great prices, excellent service and quality scents)  Be sure to check out their forums as I'm sure you'll find info of interest.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on December 07, 2008, 09:34:49 pm
Disassembled 1/2 deer - broth/canning/freezer to finish tomorrow.
Taught 8 yo neighbor boy how to chunk meat (the kids had fun).
ND taught me how to start beer.
Located source for slaughtering/cost share on a pig for Jan.
Standard homestead caretaking.
....generally rabbleroused in a informative kind of way.

Time for nap  ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on December 07, 2008, 11:09:27 pm
I've been looking for an encrypter, not that I plan on having a computer out in the woods, or have an internet signal, much harder to track that way...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 08, 2008, 12:08:53 am
Ghost is good but limiting.Ghost is the way we do it. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: grits55 on December 09, 2008, 08:21:33 pm
Hi all,

I think I need some help!  I'm known by my friends as "the worrier".  I actually bought a house in 1999 because I thought   its design would help me for Y2K.  Everytime  a hurricane heads our way, I only have to go to the store for a couple of things because I'm still prepared for the one from last year.  But I have way too many stupid things that never get used and probably lack many things that would be invaluable.  I'm realizing that this preparation stuff is much more complicated than I thought.

I found this forum a few weeks ago, and it shifted me into high gear.  Well, that and losing a ton of money in the stock market and realizing how vulnerable we really are.  My first instinct is to throw alot of money at a problem.  I sent my husband out to buy another gun and alot of ammo.  He was thrilled to comply.  Then my heirloom seeds arrived. He thought the survival gardening cd was interesting.  It will work well on our 120 acres.  (if the bank doesn't end up with it that is, but that's another subject for later.)  But today, the food came.  WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL THIS WEIRD STUFF??

I went overboard, and bought the family supply, even though there are only  two of us.  I have three packages each of peanuts, raisins, date pieces, adzuki beans,  mung beans, coconut, dried cheese "sauce", wild rice blend, bean soup mix, mixed fruit medley, beef and chicken "base", bee pollen, granola, cranberry beans, salad topper(?), vegetable mixture(?), rolled oats, fried green peas, and fruit and nut baking mixture.  BIG packages.  They came with no recipes, or instructions,or even ideas how to use them.  They're only in plastic bags.

I don't need to tell you that it wasn't cheap either.  Can anyone give me some guidance on how best to store/package/use these things?  We have a vacuum sealer and plenty of storage space.  Would 2 person size portions in ziplock  bags vacuum sealed put into food grade plastic containers be the way to go??  I'm more worried about a no available electricity situation for these things, as my "Y2K house" with a generator  and a stocked pantry and freezer can get us through minor emergencies.  In a SHTF situation,  all that would be left behind though.  We'd then be in a  crowded camper on that 120 acres. ( The trailer is as far as we've gotten toward being able to live there until we sell the other house.   Which is not likely to happen.  ) It would be hot or cold according to the prevailing weather at the time. 

I know that I need to gather many other things to make this workable.  Today, I ordered sample sizes of  freeze dried things like black bread, cheddar cheese, butter, meats, bacon, and some main dishes;  and 40# dehydrated potatoes.   I want to make sure we like these things before I make a big commitment to them.   I'm going to a big warehouse store tomorrow to get rice, salt, and some can goods.   Any other suggestions?

I also ordered more seeds (more varieties), oxygen absorbers (maybe someone can tell me how to use them?), water preserver, vitamins, waterproof matches, gasoline stabilizer, a solar shower, a non electric clothes washer, and cellux (a stop-bleeding product for emergencies when no hospital is available.)  It really feels good to be getting serious about this.

Now, I  just need to reread those suggestions about how to get your SO involved.  So far, he's just going along with me and shaking his head.  At least he doesn't fight me about it.

Thanks for any help!        Grits
 

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on December 09, 2008, 10:00:45 pm
Grits55,

Just a couple of suggestions:

* Repackage the bulk items into smaller quantities. They don't necessarily need to be 'meals for 2' size, but
   any size that's more manageable will do.

* Try the things you've got. When you find something you don't like, offer to trade it for something else
   here on the forum. If you're at a loss as to how to use a particular item, ask. There's bound to be someone
   here who's used it.

* Don't knock yourself out for buying things you ended up not needing/ not liking much. It's called the
  "learning experience". 

Talking about learning experience... this summer I made garlic dill pickles. They're good, but the problem
is that we just don't eat that many pickles on a regular basis. We're giving away home canned garlic dills for
Chrismas.  :laugh:

No one gets 'all dialed in' on the preparation thing over night. Find something that works for you and
work it into your normal home life. Part of my preps has been to get more into the regular habit of
brewing home made beer. This bit of self sufficiency has the full support of my wife, who likes my
beer and ales.  Preparation doesn't have to be about hardship! :laugh:

Bear





Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 10, 2008, 12:59:25 am
Store what you and your family eat on a regular basis.Rotate your inventory.Prepping is a lot of common sense and planning. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on December 10, 2008, 05:00:00 am
I recall a friend during the Y2K time that bought several hundred pounds of wheat in buckets. Very proud of his purchase he was. It is amazing to see the look on someone's face when they learn that they may of made a mistake after I asked how he was going to grind that wheat.

I agree with '07. Stock up on what you eat, not what someone tells you to get.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on December 10, 2008, 08:45:27 am
I'm planning to put up 140/lbs of rice when my (used) buckets arrive. No grinding necessary: if all else fails, mix 10:1 with water and simmer as long as you please, and you've got congee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congee).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on December 12, 2008, 07:54:53 am
Bear, pehaps you can share how you did the pickles. Mrs. Hammer put some up and they ended up being soggy.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on December 12, 2008, 10:28:11 am
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Bear, pehaps you can share how you did the pickles. Mrs. Hammer put some up and they ended up being soggy.

I add alum (available with the spices in the grocery store) to keep the pickles crisp. Some recipes spell it out, some don't. The
rest of the pickling solution was just water, salt, dill and garlic. I heated the water to speed up the dissolving of the salt into
the water, and to get the volatile oils from the dill and garlic into solution faster. I let it cool a little before pouring into the
crock with the sliced cucumbers already inside. I think slicing the cucs and using the warm solution helped speed up the process.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on December 12, 2008, 12:42:45 pm
Thanks, Bear.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on December 12, 2008, 05:31:14 pm
Today a neighbor and his wife taught the kidlets/me to make "summer sausage". Made with goat/pork to his "secret" recipe.

I was scared to learn to do it - putting myself in a situation where I show my "lack of knowledge" is difficult for me. So from grind to hanging in smoke house it was about 3 hours for about 50#. It was fun! We had a nice lunch and it felt good to combine Homeschooling with a neighbor visit.

Next we will be doing 2 wethers we have ready (just budgeting for casing, etc.). Any good sources? mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Billybob Cornfed on December 13, 2008, 06:56:05 pm
I found this awesome forum!

I am so far behind the proverbial eightball - at least I live on the Navajo Reservation 120 miles from town...

Now to read read read and get prepared
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 13, 2008, 07:00:17 pm
Make a plan,don't just start buying things. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Billybob Cornfed on December 13, 2008, 07:12:29 pm
thanks - I am reading first to figure out what the most important things needed are -

then a list -

then buy -

Living so far from town - makes it impossible to just buy stuff...

so thanks
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on December 13, 2008, 07:15:08 pm
Welcome, Billybob.  :)

Not meaning to go off topic, but what's it like living on a reservation?

Edited: Never mind answering that here, I'll repost the question in the Where We Be thread instead.  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: archer on December 14, 2008, 08:59:00 am
Billybob,
Go over to survivalblog.com and do a search for "List of Lists". this will give you a good start!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Happy on December 14, 2008, 01:11:31 pm
Here is the link just in case you have trouble finding it.
http://www.survivalblog.com/2008/02/from_the_survivalblog_archives_1.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on December 14, 2008, 02:05:37 pm

Thanks for the link Happy

Bookmarked and grabbed a txt copy as well.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on December 14, 2008, 04:52:52 pm
Billybob,
Go over to survivalblog.com and do a search for "List of Lists". this will give you a good start!

Good suggestion.  I also like reading over the list of the 100 things that disappeared first during wartime in Sarajevo:

http://www.tpass.org/?p=147
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on December 14, 2008, 07:10:38 pm

Today, I took my fiancee and 10-year old to the range, both for the first time.

Both fired the .22, SL-8 (5.56mm), Vz-52 and SKS (7.62x39mm) and my 1943 Mosin Nagant (7.62.54R).  The Fiancee also fired a 12-gauge shotgun, 9mm and .45ACP pistols.  (not all mine.. I went with my fire team partner and a friend of his)

Her fav was the 12 gauge (kept yelling something about "Deadites"... I'm worried about her).

Little guy was less than impressed past the SKS.  Something about too much kick. 

We kept the brass.. well, what the rifles didn't destroy.  The Vz-52 is especially hard on casings and has a tendency to jam when the casing bounces off the scope back into the action.  I think it has to do with softer shoulders.  I have fired hundreds of rounds through it and never had an issue.

The best description of the setup is that the scope is measured in "minutes of barn door".
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on December 14, 2008, 07:30:57 pm
We've been RVing fulltime since 1994, and all this time we've depended on our solar system for all of our energy needs when we're boondocking (ie, camped away from shore power).  But this week we finally took the plunge and bought a pair of Honda 2000 ultra-quiet generators.  Today, we actually read the manual and figured out how to use them - lol. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on December 14, 2008, 08:32:54 pm
Started reading Kunster's The Long Emergency this weekend. I'm about half way through it.

Holy s*** Batman...

Kunster does not pull any punches. After describing how we go to where we are today (in 2005),
he goes on to describe where we're going, and what's likely to happen. Let me cut to the chase.

1. It is very likely we've already passed world wide peak oil production, and the clarity of whether
we have or not can only be seen in hindsight.

2. The current lifestyle enjoyed in the United States requires a constant supply of cheap energy.

3. While alternative fuels and systems may work to a greater or lesser degree, none of it, even added
together, comes close to replacing the incredible abundance of cheap energy we've had with oil.

4. Few people in or out of government are proactive enough to take the steps required to minimize
the impact of the wrenching changes to come.

5. If changes don't start to occur until the after the emergency has arrived, we won't have the resources
to build the alternative energy infrastructure we need.

So, due to accidents of geology and history and human nature, we are most likely heading for TEOTWAWKI.

Now, that is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm only half way through the book, but Kunster has tipped his
hand a couple of times. Two things that he's implied is that we will end up working harder for the necessities,
and have fewer comforts, but we may end up with more freedom in the bargain.


I'll follow up with another post about this when I finish the book.

Bear


 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on December 15, 2008, 11:37:02 am
So, due to accidents of geology and history and human nature, we are most likely heading for TEOTWAWKI.

Now, that is not necessarily a bad thing. I'm only half way through the book, but Kunster has tipped his
hand a couple of times. Two things that he's implied is that we will end up working harder for the necessities,
and have fewer comforts, but we may end up with more freedom in the bargain.


I'll follow up with another post about this when I finish the book.

Bear,

Take a gander at Jared Diamond's Collapse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_(book)) after you are done with that one.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on December 15, 2008, 12:05:18 pm
I picked up four food-grade 18-qt buckets today with lids. One I'll probably use for general stuff like making 'kraut and kimchi. The rest I'm thinking wheat at the moment.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on December 16, 2008, 08:35:52 pm
This happened on saturday but this is the first chance I'v had since then to post.

A neighbor was showing us his chicken coop and backyard farm. (good neighbors) I glanced back at the coop and asked "Is that a pet possum?"
It took about a half hour but we cornered it and I caught it with my gloved hand.  Standing there with a live possum I asked what now.  A good friend kindly offered to do the deed while I held on.  Did you know the neck is the only place you can hold a live possum?  And thier heads are not that big.

After I brought it home to show the rest of the survivalist meetup.  None of them wanted to watch me skin and clean it, but the original two guys helped. I got the tail intact.  :mellow:

Now I have another skin in the freezer waiting for better weather. (Maybe five above today. maybe less)

I did cook it but we couldn't eat it.  Not hungry enough. ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 16, 2008, 08:47:36 pm
This happened on saturday but this is the first chance I'v had since then to post.

A neighbor was showing us his chicken coop and backyard farm. (good neighbors) I glanced back at the coop and asked "Is that a pet possum?"
It took about a half hour but we cornered it and I caught it with my gloved hand.  Standing there with a live possum I asked what now.  A good friend kindly offered to do the deed while I held on.  Did you know the neck is the only place you can hold a live possum?  And thier heads are not that big.

After I brought it home to show the rest of the survivalist meetup.  None of them wanted to watch me skin and clean it, but the original two guys helped. I got the tail intact.  :mellow:

Now I have another skin in the freezer waiting for better weather. (Maybe five above today. maybe less)

I did cook it but we couldn't eat it.  Not hungry enough. ^_^

Hope you used a crock pot.Good ta train for the future. Ought 7.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on December 16, 2008, 09:14:41 pm
I, and probably a lot of us, could use a neighbor like amagi to help us transition from bags of frozen chicken breasts in the big box grocery to available and affordable meat that walks right up to us.  I have quite a ways to go, but about the time I have a distinct waistline, I might be ready on my own.

This happened on saturday but this is the first chance I'v had since then to post.

A neighbor was showing us his chicken coop and backyard farm. (good neighbors) I glanced back at the coop and asked "Is that a pet possum?"
It took about a half hour but we cornered it and I caught it with my gloved hand.  Standing there with a live possum I asked what now.  A good friend kindly offered to do the deed while I held on.  Did you know the neck is the only place you can hold a live possum?  And thier heads are not that big.

After I brought it home to show the rest of the survivalist meetup.  None of them wanted to watch me skin and clean it, but the original two guys helped. I got the tail intact.  :mellow:

Now I have another skin in the freezer waiting for better weather. (Maybe five above today. maybe less)

I did cook it but we couldn't eat it.  Not hungry enough. ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on December 16, 2008, 09:54:34 pm
I, and probably a lot of us, could use a neighbor like amagi to help us transition from bags of frozen chicken breasts in the big box grocery to available and affordable meat that walks right up to us.  I have quite a ways to go, but about the time I have a distinct waistline, I might be ready on my own.

Agreed.  Beyond the occasional dove hunting trip with DH, I've never come close to killing my own food.  But we would all do well to practice.  I did get the opportunity once to witness a buffalo hunt and the field dressing of the carcass.  It was less gross and more interesting than I thought it would be.  I think I could adjust - just never had the need. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on December 16, 2008, 10:40:53 pm
Adjust NOW.You may havta kill/eat rodents/cats/dogs ta live.Better ta get it out of your system now.Than ta have doubts later.Folk, I've been hungry before.Claire and only one other on this world knows the story.

Ask Padre my survival story.



It will make you rethink your preps. Ought 7.       
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on December 17, 2008, 07:57:55 am
I did not start with catching wild animals by hand.  I started with butchering the geese that had been terrorizing my three year old all summer.  They were pre caught and I had help.  Not too hard to kill those mean bastards.

Start with friends and a good set up.  Nothing builds courage like peer pressure.  Once you KNOW you can kill something, you will be able to in less than ideal sittuations.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on December 17, 2008, 08:50:00 am
amagi - you are so right.

When one does the butchering then you find out - what to do with the feathers, entrails, etc. from the critters you slaughter. We discovered that when we did 40+ varied poultry one day. Can't chuck them in the woods (attract predators), can't burn them effectively (unless you prepare before hand), burying them is effective (if you aren't butchering when the ground is frozen), and look mighty silly staring at that pile.

It is the little "extras" that one does not know about until you actually complete the process that can catch up to you.

What we did is cook the parts (except feathers) in the scalding pot and feed them to the pigs.

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on December 18, 2008, 07:06:19 am
Oh.  Good idea.  I threw mine in the back yard for the crows.  Just one little critter.
I think we burried them when doing more birds at once.
In the field, the predators are there no matter what.  Might as well let them clean up for you.

I put the cooked possum outside too.  Still there. :(
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on December 21, 2008, 10:51:16 am
Not really preparing,
just day to day continuing.
Cut a little wood,
Haul a little water.
And signed up for this forum.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on December 21, 2008, 11:59:21 am
Planning a small hunting trip, when I get my gun sometime soon, going to hunt, clean, and cook a small animal (I don't know what, but something) out in the woods!

      Bgolem
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rawbee on December 26, 2008, 10:55:42 pm
Well, today, specifically nothing except read these posts and making some notes on things to get. But, since I last posted, I've bought wheat and quinoa. I'll be ordering spelt or rice and beans next through our food co-op. I've also purchased several guns and ammo but need LOTS more ammo...and practice. I've bought a handcrank shortwave radio and just found a place to purchase a guide to the stations on this site. My hubby is also thinking about a solar generator which is good since I haven't been working and don't have the money to spend. During Christmas, we also talked to extended family and they have been purchasing guns and ammo too. We all decided next year we would have our concealed license permits and we would all carry to the Christmas dinner. I've also signed up for several homesteading classes on things like canning, sewing, beekeeping, gardening, etc. My wonderful husband is going to buy me a treadle sewing machine as soon as we find the right one. Oh, and I've ordered some heirloom seeds and will soon be deciding what to plant for my first garden here.

BUT, I'm still thinking all this is worthless if I'm not remote enough. I feel a bit of panic about this and feel I must find some land quickly. I mean, really, if panic happens, everything I have can be taken in a blink of an eye. I can get really self-reliant on my little 2.3 acres, but I live in a suburb of a major metropolitan area and if others come to take what I have it's all for naught. I don't know how to find other like minded people in a certain vicinity that might want to get together in a "gulch" or in a homestead community. I know this forum is a good place, but it seems to be a longer process than seems necessary given the current situation with everything. I would like to start with the 'weekend retreat' idea and stock the place and prepare it for the time we have to go there for good when the SHTF.

Tonight I read the information about the Thermette and want to purchase one of those fairly quickly too.

Thanks everyone for all the great information!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on December 27, 2008, 06:16:01 am
(New member aspiring to Newbie status...)

Added canned foods on sale at Wally's; bought seasonings and soup bases at a Vietnamese supermarket to see what I like for diversification of foodstocks; while at Wally's bought an extra pair of cheapo jeans for $14 for the SHTF cache; made a list for next week's scavenging; picked up about 6 pounds of lead tire weights at a shop, free for the asking - bringing the total to 200 pounds of lead feedstock.

Note on scavenging - I saw a 55gal barrel in the ditch alongside the highway a few months ago.  It had a hand pump on it, so I circled back to check it out.  The hand pump looked grimy and bent up from flying out of a truck with the barrel and rolling down the culvert.  It turns out there is a materials handling supplier near my place.  They had a new hose, nozzle, handle, and pickup tube for about $45.  A cleaning, new coat of paint, and the new parts - now I have a shiny diesel/gas capable hand pump (Fill-Rite model 5200) that would otherwise cost $125+.  This can be used with the four like-new 55 gallon drums stashed away in the shed for gas or kerosene once prices drop some more.

To do: de-focus on firesticks and get a good pair of boots, socks, etc.

Thank you to the forum members for all the tidbits picked up while lurking before joining!!

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on December 27, 2008, 08:51:32 am
For the last few weeks I've been collecting buckets for storing rice. The magic word is... bakery. The local bakeries, including the ones at the back of big-box grocery stores, go through buckets at a tremendous pace. And they're the good kind, too, with gasketed lids. I ask for "buckets you're about to get rid of," and if they look like they're going to send me to hardware I add, "like you get frosting in and stuff." The majority of buckets around here have "Brill" on the sides.

Most of them are filthy with frosting, and they gave me many more buckets than lids, but I think by this point I've amassed more than 20 usable ones. Since dry ice is only sold around here in quantities of 10lb or more, I reckoned that I should fill at least 20 buckets at a time to keep the cost down.

Anyone have any suggestions for getting wheat berries? The only store around here that could order them for me would charge more than $1/lb, and I don't think it's cost effective to pay more than $0.70/lb, based on the local price of flour.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Claire on December 27, 2008, 09:25:03 am
Received as a Christmas gift an Eton/Grundig SolarLink FR500 emergency radio.

This puppy has four different power inputs: AC, solar, hand-crank/internal NiMh battery, 3 AA batteries.

It receives AM, FM, SW and seven weather channels. It can be set to give emergency weather alerts.

It has a full-featured clock with alarm functions.

It also has an LED light, flashing red beacon light and siren.

It comes with a cell-phone charger cable (and I need to write for the free charger tip for my model of phone).

Oh yeah, I also think it's water-resistant. And I believe it can also be powered by being connected to a computer. But I haven't quite worked that part out yet.

Pretty good Santa, eh?

The solar's not much good here in the NorthWET, but will come in handy when I take the radio to the Desert Hermitage.

Claire
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on December 27, 2008, 01:15:10 pm
I got a hand powered meat grinder / sausage stuffer from Cabella's for Christmas.
Yesterday I got some pork shoulder* to add to the beef I had on hand to make
a good mix for sausages. I also picked up some spices I was short, along with
some sausage casings from Cabellas.

Today I'll make sausages.

Bear

* I had originally planned to get 3# more beef and 4# pork to add to the
3# of beef I already had. Then I found that pork shoulder was only 99 cents
a pound, whereas ground round was $3 a pound. I got all pork to save money,
and explained to my wife how astounded I was at the prices.

She gave me that "Yes, Grasshopper, now you are enlightened" smile.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: clarence on December 27, 2008, 10:42:28 pm
Quote
Anyone have any suggestions for getting wheat berries? The only store around here that could order them for me would charge more than $1/lb, and I don't think it's cost effective to pay more than $0.70/lb, based on the local price of flour.

look for a grain supplier, like a farm co-op, for domestic livestock such as horses and goats. grain elevators also. specify that it is for consumption not seed. buying fifty pound bags will bring down the price. hundred pound bags are best handled with a pickup with a lift gate.

clarence
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on January 01, 2009, 07:03:18 am
I picked up my first food-grade bucket today, at the bakery inside a Big Box supermarket.  It was only a smaller 3 gallon bucket, but you have to start somewhere!

The lady told me I'd have to wash out all the frosting first, and I told her "Oh no, I'm going to LICK it out."

It helps when you can make people laugh!



(the frosting was still pretty good, BTW)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on January 01, 2009, 07:07:42 am
Use the smaller buckets ta store the heavier stuff/rice ect.That way older folk and or kids can portage it. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 08, 2009, 06:19:55 pm
Today, I was able to get one of my gas chainsaws up and running. It has been in storage for 4-5 years. I bought some mix , a new file and bar oil. I took a smaller one to a local shop for repairs due to the fact I have not started it for 15 years and I kinda want to keep on his good side. He drops everything he is doing when I come in with something due the fact I pay cash.. To be honest I forgot about having the saw. It was under my work bench in the shed. I have grown used to using the electric saws I have and thought it would be a good Idea to get the gas saws out and ready if needed.

I also worked on the benches in one of the greenhouses. I plan to move more into it on Friday when my boys are all home. We are also going to try and get the plastic put on it and the wood stove set up inside. I think I will also get my generator out and get it ready to power the freezers/fridge and coffee maker.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 08, 2009, 07:45:10 pm

Acquired a Vector Maxx-sst [soft start technology] 750 watt inverter [used] as a trade item and
plan on putting it into my truck to make it a drivable 3/4 ton generator.   
:rolleyes:   
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on January 08, 2009, 09:18:48 pm
spent the entire day working on patterns for the product line of the portable business........

After all.......beans, bullets, and bullion will only last so long......and after that it'll be up to us to decide where that new world is going.........
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on January 08, 2009, 09:58:44 pm
Found out how to make tannic acid with varied things you find in the woods, its really not to hard, also, organized my survival notes and books into a bag, water proof, of course.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on January 08, 2009, 11:10:15 pm
I taught my daughter how to add the priming sugar and bottle beer. She's
very much behind the idea of beer making as a gulch business.

Bear

PS: We'll have 47 bottles of Honey-nut brown ale in about 2 weeks.
     The Christmas ale is all gone.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on January 08, 2009, 11:28:27 pm
PS: We'll have 47 bottles of Honey-nut brown ale in about 2 weeks.
     The Christmas ale is all gone.  :dontknow:

Hmmm... I'm sensing a overwhelming need to see the Sierras coming on in a couple of weeks.  New moon, planetary alignment or something....


Acquired a Vector Maxx-sst [soft start technology] 750 watt inverter [used] as a trade item and
plan on putting it into my truck to make it a drivable 3/4 ton generator.   
:rolleyes:   

Now there's something a marine band-aid'n'bailing-wire mechanic can turn into a useful tool while the rest of us think its highest value is scrap metal.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Orca on January 09, 2009, 05:31:20 pm
I collected five more food-grade plastic five gallon buckets to be used for long-term foodstorage.  I also purchased another 50lbs. of organic wheat, and ordered more Gamma-seal lids.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 09, 2009, 06:11:41 pm
Set up the wood stove in one of my greenhouses like I had planned and I was able to get the endwalls sealed off.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: timbo on January 09, 2009, 11:30:52 pm
I got in my extra large BOB and am working on filling it. I also found some Sterno candles at Wally world for .97 each!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on January 09, 2009, 11:41:45 pm
Remember,You may havta hump that thing over a long distance. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 09, 2009, 11:48:40 pm
I got in my extra large BOB and am working on filling it. I also found some Sterno candles at Wally world for .97 each!


First of all Welcome to the boards.

Then .... IF I may timbo,  Ought 7 ?

What I THINK Ought 7 is reminding you of is ....

Would it not make your life a lot easier to stash the largest portion of your "supplies" at the place where you are headed with your BOB ?
Then your Bug Out Bag is a lot less of a burden.  Especially If the "gulch" is more than three day hike.

Or something like that is the approximate translation I do believe ....

AND ....

By inference that IF you were planning on using a vehicle to transport your BOB for you .... you will need to leave two to twelve hours before everyone else or ....   well let's just say it won't be pretty. [visions of the thousands stuck on the freeways with Rita and Katrina come to mind ....]

I too would suggest smaller loads and more of them stashed in more than one basket  er cashe.

There are some really good conversations on the subject hereabouts.  I don't have the links handy so I recommend the search bar and BOB as a search term.

And Welcome once again. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 10, 2009, 05:09:23 pm
Becoming Mr FIX-it instead of Mr GO-BUY-IT. Today I took our dryer apart and repaired it and fixed a leak on the hot water heater. Both could have been replaced but the dryer is only six years old and the hot water heater is just over a year old. Total time spent: 3 hours , money spent: $29
Total money saved: about $700. Satisfaction:  BEING DEBT FREE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on January 10, 2009, 05:32:42 pm
Started bringing in buckets off the back porch and washing out the bakery frosting.   ^_^

Finished thirteen of the 4.25-gallon buckets ready-to-go, and got the frosting out of a dozen 3.5-gallon pails but didn't scrub off the labels yet.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on January 10, 2009, 05:47:19 pm
I returned the socks lent to my son by the neighbors.  I also gave them a pound of fudge I made.
Good neighbors are gold, and these have chickens.  They were the source of the possum.  :icon_pirat:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: TheSurvivalist on January 12, 2009, 11:23:38 am
I'm currently over in Iraq, so my preps are somewhat limited...but my wife has been great, she picked up some guns and ammo for us last week (of which, I hear both are getting harder to find), and I sent out some requests for pricing on mature apple trees for my farm...hope to put in an orchard this year.  Lots of online research...and I joined this forum today! 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on January 12, 2009, 12:22:44 pm
Quote
I'm currently over in Iraq, so my preps are somewhat limited...but my wife has been great, she picked up some guns and ammo for us last week (of which, I hear both are getting harder to find),

I saw an article that linked to the BATF page where there is a notice that FFLs may
use a photocopy of form 4473, due to the recent increase in activity and lack of forms.

Apparently, so many folks are buying arms that the printer who produces the 4473 forms
cannot keep up. I take this as a good sign that folks are less trusting of our government
and want to be able to depend on themselves in an emergency.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: timbo on January 12, 2009, 06:58:25 pm
I got in my extra large BOB and am working on filling it. I also found some Sterno candles at Wally world for .97 each!


First of all Welcome to the boards.

Then .... IF I may timbo,  Ought 7 ?

What I THINK Ought 7 is reminding you of is ....

Would it not make your life a lot easier to stash the largest portion of your "supplies" at the place where you are headed with your BOB ?
Then your Bug Out Bag is a lot less of a burden.  Especially If the "gulch" is more than three day hike.

Or something like that is the approximate translation I do believe ....

AND ....

By inference that IF you were planning on using a vehicle to transport your BOB for you .... you will need to leave two to twelve hours before everyone else or ....   well let's just say it won't be pretty. [visions of the thousands stuck on the freeways with Rita and Katrina come to mind ....]

I too would suggest smaller loads and more of them stashed in more than one basket  er cashe.

There are some really good conversations on the subject hereabouts.  I don't have the links handy so I recommend the search bar and BOB as a search term.

And Welcome once again. 

Thanks, for the welcome. ^_^ Yes I have thought about size and weight. We have our bug out route planned off the beaten path. Also we are in a rural area already so that will buy a little time. But I welcome any input.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on January 12, 2009, 08:04:05 pm
I'm currently over in Iraq, so my preps are somewhat limited...but my wife has been great, she picked up some guns and ammo for us last week (of which, I hear both are getting harder to find), and I sent out some requests for pricing on mature apple trees for my farm...hope to put in an orchard this year.  Lots of online research...and I joined this forum today! 

Can't help you on the mature trees, however if you have any wild crabapples on your property I can send you some scion wood. I have a dozen or so varieties of heirloom apples most of which I grafted myself. Cleft grafting is not very difficult on mature trees. Otherwise I could whip graft you some onto rootstocks this year. It looks like rootstocks have gone up to $3.75 plus shipping this year. I wouldn't be able to ship them to you until they go dormant next winter.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on January 13, 2009, 10:22:05 am
Last night I started classes for the Mechatronics curriculum at the local junior college.

Mechatronics is not a single discipline like English or Math, but a collection of skills
including mechanics, hydraulics, pneumatics, electricity/electronics, and control (computers
and programmable logic controllers). The idea is that with this background the graduate
can maintain (and fabricate parts for) complex equipment.

Apparently the big push towards college degrees that the education industry has had
for so long has left us with a real lack of folks with hands-on experience to fix things.
This general lack of practical skills has created some high paying job niches.

Besides being "Plan B" incase I get laid off again, these sort of skills will also allow
me to do interesting things in a gulch business.

Bear


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: EwB on January 13, 2009, 12:46:31 pm
Last night I started classes for the Mechatronics curriculum at the local junior college.

Mechatronics is not a single discipline like English or Math, but a collection of skills
including mechanics, hydraulics, pneumatics, electricity/electronics, and control (computers
and programmable logic controllers). The idea is that with this background the graduate
can maintain (and fabricate parts for) complex equipment.

Apparently the big push towards college degrees that the education industry has had
for so long has left us with a real lack of folks with hands-on experience to fix things.
This general lack of practical skills has created some high paying job niches.

Besides being "Plan B" incase I get laid off again, these sort of skills will also allow
me to do interesting things in a gulch business.

Bear

Cool, I have a BS in industrial technology which is exactly what you describe.   Settled into that after
deciding that I couldn't be a teacher due to dealing with the bureaucracy in education  :puke: ( 10 credit hours from
getting a secondary physics teaching degree ). 

Best part of college was building an assembly machine for a local company as a project.
The machine made the little cedar shingles that have a hanger hook that goes in your closet. 

Don't know if they still use it now (it has been over 18 years !) but they used it for 3 years after I graduated on the product line.
The only reason I know is that they contracted for me to fix it twice in that time.

Sounds like you will gain some very useful info.

EwB


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on January 13, 2009, 11:46:17 pm
We're camped near Yuma, AZ at the moment.  We went into Mexico today to stock up on Rx meds and antibiotics, and we both ordered two new pairs of glasses.  Back-up glasses were missing from our preps.  Four pairs of glasses in Mexico cost the same as two pairs of glasses in the states several years ago.  We went to Algodones Optical.  I've heard very good feedback about them from some trusted sources. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on January 14, 2009, 07:09:46 pm
do they check your prescription when coming back into the US for the antibiotics?  I've been wanting to stockpile some but not smart enough to figure out how to get any without a prescription.  Since I live in Tucson I could zip down to Nogales and get some if it is doable. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 14, 2009, 08:21:10 pm
do they check your prescription when coming back into the US for the antibiotics?  I've been wanting to stockpile some but not smart enough to figure out how to get any without a prescription.  Since I live in Tucson I could zip down to Nogales and get some if it is doable. 

They didn't when I went across but [big but] that was over two years ago in Reynosa. [extreme south Texas]  I have no clue about these days ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on January 14, 2009, 08:24:40 pm
No, I've never had them check a Rx.  I declared that I had an antibiotic, among other things, and they glanced in the bag briefly and said OK.  There are some meds that should not be brought across w/o a Rx, but they're mostly the Schedule II narcotics, and a few others like Flexaril.  As far as I know - and don't take this as absolute - the only antibiotic I know of that you're not supposed to bring across is Cipro.  At least, I heard that was the case last year.  I brought some anyway - lol.  

Usually, they just ask what you have.  I say, for example, "stomach meds, BP meds, and a bottle of tequila."  And they generally just swipe my passport and say OK.  Once in awhile, they actually look in the bag.  Last night, as I said, they glanced in it, but didn't take enough time to really check it out.  I've seen them occasionally look in a woman's purse, but I've never had them check mine.  

Craig and I joke that if you tell them you have something like "antifungal cream" they'll wave you on through pretty fast!  :laugh:

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on January 14, 2009, 09:28:28 pm
You can buy meds on the interwebz pretty easily.

...or so I hear... :angel:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on January 14, 2009, 10:37:19 pm
Today, we placed an order for some serious upgrades to our solar system.  We'll be having them installed next week.  We also got estimates on other possible future upgrades such as a wind generator, more PV panels, etc. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on January 15, 2009, 12:22:37 am
I have organized my many many pages of survival notes, ranging from cpr to tanning, to cooking, to hunting, to construction. there were many pages, so many pages.... but I'm done, they're all sealed away safely in a water proof bag, along with the books I would find a) helpful and 2) entertaining.

    Bgolem
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on January 15, 2009, 08:08:23 am
Today, we placed an order for some serious upgrades to our solar system.

What an awesome idea! I'd like a warmer planet with more beaches.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on January 15, 2009, 09:52:00 am
Today, we placed an order for some serious upgrades to our solar system.

What an awesome idea! I'd like a warmer planet with more beaches.

Hehe!  :laugh: Sure wish I could oblige. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on January 15, 2009, 07:18:03 pm
well, keep runnin' those carbon burning vehicles and you'll be at a beach in no time, and warmer it will be!

     Bgolem
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on January 15, 2009, 10:22:52 pm
well, keep runnin' those carbon burning vehicles and you'll be at a beach in no time, and warmer it will be!

     Bgolem

You can't prove a thing.....

its been "Global Warming" since the last Ice Age.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on January 15, 2009, 10:55:24 pm
 :deadhorse: Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 16, 2009, 08:48:50 am


Do internal combustion engines pollute the atmosphere ?
Without a doubt.
Is that pollution "causing" global warming ?
Unproven and possibly unprovable.
"Hired" scientists notwithstanding. 
[Given enough money I can hire a scientist or a doctor or a lawyer to say exactly what I want and so can Mr Gore.]

I'm with Ought 7 on this issue [which we have definitely already 'worried' to the bone].   :deadhorse:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BGolem on January 16, 2009, 09:43:58 am
Yeah, I know its a bunch o' crap, but either way, "global warming" is still happening, its a cycle, not man caused....
and I'm not beating a dead horse, its still got a bit of kick left in it, I give it another, oh... 2 months....

         Bgolem
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on January 16, 2009, 09:08:07 pm
Rabble roused with neighbors (in the "look here. Ain't that silly kind of wa"y), located Pig to slaughter/process,and  helped a neighbor set up an area for her new goats (milk).

every little bit counts. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on January 17, 2009, 02:41:49 pm
Hey, y'all, couldja please quit it with the cruelty to horses?    ^_^ :wub:  I mean, they're beautiful, useful, loving creatures...unlike some of the humans I've encountered...  :rolleyes:

This last week or so I've been stocking up quite a bit.  Dietz lanterns and spare parts, cotton flannel on markdown at Jo-Ann Fabrics for $3 a yard (I bought the remainder on four bolts!), 25,000 yards of thread also on sale, hiking boots and good wool socks, hand tools (used up a coupla gift cards, woohoo!)...had to get a second toolbox too!

Also have made progress on moving my important data (even recipes that I had bookmarked in Firefox) to hard-copy forms, and stocked up on notebooks, index cards, and pens (gads, I love a fresh notebook!  I've gone back to doing almost all my writing in one for months now).

In the coming weeks I'll be getting deep into selling unneeded stuff on Craigslist and maybe eBay too, to raise more funds for the real goodies...   :twocents:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on January 17, 2009, 09:59:14 pm
cracked a crucible and watched 10 pounds of molten brass solidify in the bottom of my furnace......

guess ya' can't win em all..............
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on January 18, 2009, 12:29:44 am
Quote
cracked a crucible and watched 10 pounds of molten brass solidify in the bottom of my furnace......

guess ya' can't win em all..............

If I can find a silver lining in this, it's that TSH not HTF yet, so you can figure out what went wrong,
repair, and get back to casting.  :dontknow:

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on January 18, 2009, 04:10:07 am
Can't repair a fireclay/graphite crucible.......and I'm thinking it was on it's last leg anyways before I fired  up my furnace today...........and in the aftermath I know it was on it's last leg  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: freewoman on January 18, 2009, 07:08:52 am
Yesterday I scored 2 dynamo-powered (hand-cranked) LED lanterns, for about $6.50 with sales tax (each).  Regular price was $25--75% off!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on January 18, 2009, 07:41:01 am
Lately, I have not had any extra money to BUY preps. So I have been making small improvements in my plans, equipment, organization of equipment, and practicing the skills I will probably need. Mostly, I have been reading, both books and the internet. I have analyzed my situation, and have come to some realizations.
1) My debt level, though not eliminated quite yet, is manageable, as evidenced by my survival on $162/week unemployment.
    My budget is working. I've had to forgo some luxuries, but not any comfort.
2) My food storage situation is ok. I am gently dipping into it now, but not decimating it. It won't be difficult to replenish.
    You can't have too much, so re-stocking is a priority.
3) I have had time to beef up security around my home. Securing doors, improving lighting, etc. . More is needed.
4) Ammo. Along with more food, this is a top priority, because guns are useless without ammo.
5) Although I plan to bug-in, I am upgrading my bug-out vehicle, making it more suitable for evacuating my family. Some     members of my family have special needs, such as litter boxes, cat toys, cat beds, food and water needs. I am starting to work on a bug-out trailer. The vehicle, an older  4-cylinder, 4wd SUV, is for the family. The trailer will be for survival equipment, like a small generator, water, gasoline, food, spare car parts, air compressor, etc. . It will be made of a small pickup box, so it already has an auxiliary fuel tank built in, and is safer than carrying jerry cans. I may build a top for it (cheaper), or may buy a topper (more aerodynamic).

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 19, 2009, 10:53:24 pm
Sunday afternoon we put the plastic on the newest greenhouse. Today I installed the duct work and flue for the furnace to heat it with. Fired it off about 4pm. It had some creosote buildup from the previous owner that had to burn off but at $400 I think it was a good purchase. We plan to start to fill it with ferns tomorrow. Our bedding plants are already coming up and the early stuff needs to to be bumped up into 4' pots for retail sale. It should be a big year for vegetable plants this year.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on January 20, 2009, 08:47:22 am

Was out the the shed looking for my box 'o bullets to catch up on some reloading and came across an empty 81mm rocket box.  Sprayed it off with the hose and let it dry and started thinking that it looks like the same height of a #10 can, I tried it and it was.  So since I dislike storing survival items in cardboad, not sturdy enough or water proof, started loading it up and lo and behold the Mountain House freeze dried cans fit also.  So far so good.

Also looked to be the right size (~14" wide, 25" long and 7" high) to make a 'go' box.  That would be a box with a variety of items that one could just grab and go in a hurry, or give it to a needy, unprepared relative or some other poor unfortunate that was in need of charity and then tell them to 'go'.  Grab as in not having to search around looking for different things such as matches, which food to take/give, and items like toilet paper, light source, fuel, etc.

So this is what I came up with, one sturdy metal box with the following items: Five liters of water, P38 can opener, 12 hour Lightsticks (4), Plastic forks (4), Bic Lighter, 2 books of matches, one roll of TP, Trioxane (4 boxes, 3 bars each) 66oz can of Tuna, #10 can of freeze Dried Chicken/Rice, #10 can Freeze Dried green beans, two #10 cans (that’s over 12 pounds!) of Costco Cattle Drive Chili w/beans (yum), box of 64 feminine light day pads (also works as bandage) small bar of hotel soap, mylar blanket, candle and a small knife.  Should keep a couple of people set with the basics for a week or so if they are able to forage additional water. 

I'm sure I can tweak the contents with this and that but overall I'm happy with it!   
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 20, 2009, 11:33:01 am
Downloading manuals for all of my rifles from websites provided by a fellow TMMer.
Thank You.
:thumbsup:

{T I C}
[Uhm ... jimp220   Chili w/beans is a sacrilege here in Lone Star country. Just so's you'd know ....
The traditional opinion is that beans go with rice and Sausage while Chili goes with chopped, sliced or shredded beef.
It is generally accepted that a lazy Yankee trailcook put the chili into a pot with beans already cooking in it and served it rather than toss it. 
:dontknow:  ]
{/T I C}

NOT trying to be critical .... Just trying to be helpful ....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on January 20, 2009, 12:19:02 pm
{T I C}
[Uhm ... jimp220   Chili w/beans is a sacrilege here in Lone Star country. Just so's you'd know ....
The traditional opinion is that beans go with rice and Sausage while Chili goes with chopped, sliced or shredded beef.
It is generally accepted that a lazy Yankee trailcook put the chili into a pot with beans already cooking in it and served it rather than toss it. 
:dontknow:  ]
{/T I C}

I love my chili w/beans. If you want, I'll call it something else, but my red, black and pinto beans are a very important part of the hearty, mildly-spicy meat, peppers, onions, cumin and such that cooks all day and goes down with great relish... uh, I mean we like it a whole lot... as does anyone who gets a whiff or a taste.

Oh, you gun gear-heads are going to like this blog entry (http://idaholiberty.com/?p=98).  A favorite paragraph is:

In my recent family budgeting session, we decided that I get to build a service rifle in .223 caliber as soon as possible, as an economy measure. Okay, you wise guys can stop laughing, get up off the floor and finish reading my sales pitch here. Ya’see I can reload .223 for a new rifle so much cheaper than .308 for the old one that the difference in ammo cost will pay for the smaller rifle in one season of practice and match shooting. Any graduate of government-school financial analysis classes will tell you that 100% return on investment in 9 months is very good indeed. (You can try this argument free of charge in your own household budgeting, but I won’t guarantee results.)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on January 20, 2009, 05:17:18 pm
I love my chili w/beans. If you want, I'll call it something else, but my red, black and pinto beans are a very important part of the hearty, mildly-spicy meat, peppers, onions, cumin and such that cooks all day and goes down with great relish... uh, I mean we like it a whole lot... as does anyone who gets a whiff or a taste.
NOT trying to start a nomenclature war here SMS just pointing out that the dish commonly called "Chili" was invented by Hispanic cowboys here in the deep southwest and it didn't have any beans in it until it left the southwest.

My post to jimp220 was meant to be humorous and entertainingly educational. NOT confrontational at all.

I do eat Beans with chili sauce and enjoy them but when I order Chili [especially here in Tejas] I really am not looking for beans. I'm looking for Meat with a highly spiced sauce. Usually eaten with tortillas and/or a spoon.
YMOV
Quote
Oh, you gun gear-heads are going to like this blog entry (http://idaholiberty.com/?p=98).  A favorite paragraph is:

In my recent family budgeting session, we decided that I get to build a service rifle in .223 caliber as soon as possible, as an economy measure. Okay, you wise guys can stop laughing, get up off the floor and finish reading my sales pitch here. Ya’see I can reload .223 for a new rifle so much cheaper than .308 for the old one that the difference in ammo cost will pay for the smaller rifle in one season of practice and match shooting. Any graduate of government-school financial analysis classes will tell you that 100% return on investment in 9 months is very good indeed. (You can try this argument free of charge in your own household budgeting, but I won’t guarantee results.)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on January 20, 2009, 05:41:36 pm
I love my chili w/beans. If you want, I'll call it something else, but my red, black and pinto beans are a very important part of the hearty, mildly-spicy meat, peppers, onions, cumin and such that cooks all day and goes down with great relish... uh, I mean we like it a whole lot... as does anyone who gets a whiff or a taste.
NOT trying to start a nomenclature war here SMS just pointing out that the dish commonly called "Chili" was invented by Hispanic cowboys here in the deep southwest and it didn't have any beans in it until it left the southwest.

My post to jimp220 was meant to be humorous and entertainingly educational. NOT confrontational at all.

I do eat Beans with chili sauce and enjoy them but when I order Chili [especially here in Tejas] I really am not looking for beans. I'm looking for Meat with a highly spiced sauce. Usually eaten with tortillas and/or a spoon.
YMOV
Quote
Oh, you gun gear-heads are going to like this blog entry (http://idaholiberty.com/?p=98).  A favorite paragraph is:

In my recent family budgeting session, we decided that I get to build a service rifle in .223 caliber as soon as possible, as an economy measure. Okay, you wise guys can stop laughing, get up off the floor and finish reading my sales pitch here. Ya’see I can reload .223 for a new rifle so much cheaper than .308 for the old one that the difference in ammo cost will pay for the smaller rifle in one season of practice and match shooting. Any graduate of government-school financial analysis classes will tell you that 100% return on investment in 9 months is very good indeed. (You can try this argument free of charge in your own household budgeting, but I won’t guarantee results.)

I have to stand next to Gooch on this one. In this part of the world, Chili is really "Chili con carne" or chili peppers with meat. Beans not welcome in Chili con carne but is added in other regions and was believed to be started as a filler when meat was not available. Our recipe is beef or venison stew meat carefully trimmed, roasted red chili peppers, normally we use 3 peppers, New Mexico red, piqueno and jalapeno. Braise the meat in light flower, then brown onion and garlic, add the roasted chilis, oregano, cumin and some beef stock. When well cooked, 20 minutes, puree and add back the beef and more beef stock. Simmer for 1-2 hours till fork tender and serve with jalapeno cornbread. No beans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_con_carne

Now I like a bean stew, in which we use either sausage, sausage and shrimp or chicken in a white bean stew and spice the hell out of it. That dish needs a more tender meat like chicken or pork, better cuts and lean on the aromatics.

Down here the chili thing is very different then how it has evolved up north.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on January 20, 2009, 05:56:46 pm


Finally buckled down and ordered some much needed back up parts for some obscure weapons.

But the Chili sounds good...beans...no beans...tostidos required though.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on January 20, 2009, 08:11:17 pm
To celebrate inaguaration day, I ordered 340 rounds of 8mm for my Mausers, all on chargers.
When they get here they will all go into cloth badoleers.
From AIMsurplus for $99.95 and 1cent to cover shipping.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_8mm_Mauser_FMJ.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on January 20, 2009, 08:45:21 pm
To celebrate inaguaration day, I ordered 340 rounds of 8mm for my Mausers, all on chargers.
When they get here they will all go into cloth badoleers.
From AIMsurplus for $99.95 and 1cent to cover shipping.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_8mm_Mauser_FMJ.html

Sweet...but do keep in mind, without a firing pin, extractor claw, recoil spring back up, one broken part and you have an overgrown paper weight..
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 21, 2009, 02:44:49 pm
Bought 2 rechargable flashlights for $1.06 each, they were sale items at Sears. Also  set up a remote temp sensor in my greenhouse, complete with high and low temp alarm settings, on sale for 1/2 price at the local hardware store $10.99. The owner of the Sears store said he had not had a customer all week long buy anything in the store. He seemed really worried about the economy. I stopped at Arbys on the way home, I notice all the customers were retirement age. I think the people on a gov check are gonna be the only ones with money in the next few years.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on January 21, 2009, 06:54:20 pm
To celebrate inaguaration day, I ordered 340 rounds of 8mm for my Mausers, all on chargers.
When they get here they will all go into cloth badoleers.
From AIMsurplus for $99.95 and 1cent to cover shipping.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_8mm_Mauser_FMJ.html

Sweet...but do keep in mind, without a firing pin, extractor claw, recoil spring back up, one broken part and you have an overgrown paper weight..

True.
Fortuately, I have several.
It's hard for me to pass up hundred dollar rifles.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lisa Aenne on January 21, 2009, 07:32:51 pm
We took our pressure canner in to be checked today. It needed a new gasket, but now is ready to go. I picked up a water bath canner yesterday from a freecycler. It has a jar lifter rack and he even threw in some unused lids. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Phssthpok on January 24, 2009, 08:14:49 pm
Bought a nifty little wood cook stove for $250 today. Enamel lined oven box (good n' solid), white pearlescent enamel panels, and best of all it's small (light) enough for two people to lift! (and to fit into the little remaining space in my garage :ph34r:)

Picking it up Monday on my way home from work! ;D
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on January 24, 2009, 08:32:32 pm
Bought a nifty little wood cook stove for $250 today. Enamel lined oven box (good n' solid), white pearlescent enamel panels, and best of all it's small (light) enough for two people to lift! (and to fit into the little remaining space in my garage :ph34r:)

Picking it up Monday on my way home from work! ;D

$250.00? Congratulations.

I am positively green here!  I have been looking for a wood cook stove in working condition for a while now.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Phssthpok on January 24, 2009, 09:17:13 pm
Bought a nifty little wood cook stove for $250 today. Enamel lined oven box (good n' solid), white pearlescent enamel panels, and best of all it's small (light) enough for two people to lift! (and to fit into the little remaining space in my garage :ph34r:)

Picking it up Monday on my way home from work! ;D

$250.00? Congratulations.

I am positively green here!  I have been looking for a wood cook stove in working condition for a while now.

How far are you willing to travel?

$175 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/hsh/1004756298.html)
$100 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/for/1005700474.html)
$300 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/hsh/1001911103.html)
$275 (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/hsh/996260211.html)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 24, 2009, 09:32:31 pm
Yesterday I raised my flue on new greenhouse #2 to get it to draw better, we moved plants into it and sealed/landscaped the bottom around the greenhouse with pea gravel. Taday the wife moved more plants into it from #1. She is getting ready to start potting up bedding plants from the seed beds. I had to go to work today, 12 hour shifts suck.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on January 25, 2009, 05:40:04 am
To celebrate inaguaration day, I ordered 340 rounds of 8mm for my Mausers, all on chargers.
When they get here they will all go into cloth badoleers.
From AIMsurplus for $99.95 and 1cent to cover shipping.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_8mm_Mauser_FMJ.html

Sweet...but do keep in mind, without a firing pin, extractor claw, recoil spring back up, one broken part and you have an overgrown paper weight..

The old Mausers (in fact, just about any pre-Vietnam era service rifle) do make much better improvised clubs than the more modern plastic stocked service rifles...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on January 25, 2009, 12:45:58 pm
Bought a nifty little wood cook stove for $250 today. Enamel lined oven box (good n' solid), white pearlescent enamel panels, and best of all it's small (light) enough for two people to lift! (and to fit into the little remaining space in my garage :ph34r:)

Picking it up Monday on my way home from work! ;D

$250.00? Congratulations.

I am positively green here!  I have been looking for a wood cook stove in working condition for a while now.

How far are you willing to travel?

$175 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/hsh/1004756298.html)
$100 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/for/1005700474.html)
$300 (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/hsh/1001911103.html)
$275 (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/hsh/996260211.html)

Well according to Mapquest if I cross the boarder at Michigan it's only 2860 Miles.  :laugh:

I keep looking a little closer to home thanks.

Nice grab, congrats again.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on January 27, 2009, 06:03:16 pm
Today, I worked in the greenhouse, potting up cabbage plants for spring sale/planting. keeping wood on the fire.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 02, 2009, 06:01:51 pm
Bought 4 oz of silver yesterday, bid on 5 silver dollars today and kept the fires going in the greenhouses. Worked Overtime last night. I'm using the O/T to stock up for the coming depression. I am also planning on liquidating many of the useless items I have collected over the last 20 years. You can't eat an I-POD.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 02, 2009, 10:16:53 pm
Bought 4 oz of silver yesterday, bid on 5 silver dollars today and kept the fires going in the greenhouses. Worked Overtime last night. I'm using the O/T to stock up for the coming depression. I am also planning on liquidating many of the useless items I have collected over the last 20 years. You can't eat an I-POD.

Did you buy 4 oz of silver or 4 silver dollars??

DS
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on February 02, 2009, 11:04:24 pm
You can't eat an I-POD.

You can, actually, but they're hard on your teeth, have no nutritional value, and may contain toxins, so it's not recommended.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 03, 2009, 05:03:04 am
My first post!  I found this through JWR's SurvivalBlog.com site.

What did I do today to prepare?  I purchased another troy ounce of silver.  My current plan is to sell as much non-essential junk around the house on e-bay and then purchase silver coins, bullion, etc with the earnings.  So far I'm up to 15 troy ounces.  Not much but at least it's a start.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 03, 2009, 07:12:35 am
My first post!  I found this through JWR's SurvivalBlog.com site.

What did I do today to prepare?  I purchased another troy ounce of silver.  My current plan is to sell as much non-essential junk around the house on e-bay and then purchase silver coins, bullion, etc with the earnings.  So far I'm up to 15 troy ounces.  Not much but at least it's a start.

Chinese proverb:

Enough pails of water
A river

Troy wasn't built in a day...

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 03, 2009, 07:45:29 pm
To celebrate inaguaration day, I ordered 340 rounds of 8mm for my Mausers, all on chargers.
When they get here they will all go into cloth badoleers.
From AIMsurplus for $99.95 and 1cent to cover shipping.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Romanian_8mm_Mauser_FMJ.html

Sweet...but do keep in mind, without a firing pin, extractor claw, recoil spring back up, one broken part and you have an overgrown paper weight..

The old Mausers (in fact, just about any pre-Vietnam era service rifle) do make much better improvised clubs than the more modern plastic stocked service rifles...

Club...too savage add a bayonet and you have a spearclub...about 8 feet long
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lazarus Long on February 04, 2009, 04:11:21 pm
Worked Overtime last night. I'm using the O/T to stock up for the coming depression.
 
Beware the taxman - sometimes you end up in a higher bracket and it almost hurts more than it helps... I'm assuming, perhaps wrongly, that your O/T is as an employee.

I am also planning on liquidating many of the useless items I have collected over the last 20 years. You can't eat an I-POD.

We'd all do well to do our closet cleaning and liquidation - be it via eBay, craigslist, or a yard sale - sooner rather than later. As the economy tanks, so will the market for a lot of our non-essentials.

On the home front here, we bought a used, dirty, but functioning chest freezer for peanuts. It cleaned up nicely, and I'm waiting for the weather to warm up slightly so I can finish applying Rustoleum to a couple of spots I cleaned up with steel wool.

Reorganized a utility room to make room for the freezer, accomplishing a much-needed early spring cleaning in the process.

My sister, being a chip off the same contrarian block as me, gave one of my young sons some very attractive "junk" silver - Morgan dollars, no less! - as a birthday gift. Somebody has done me better than I deserve in the extended family department.

I'm actively working on getting our home office and filing systems organized. They were organized, once, at one point, before our last two babies arrived, but our system hasn't kept up with changes in our family, businesses, and projects. We have huge piles of paperwork and unfinished projects to catch up with.

I have a short list of organizing books I'm working through, and the most useful of the ones I've read so far has been David Allen's Getting Things Done. Allen's writing style is a little dry, but his system is more efficient than anything else I've tried in my lifelong battle with the ever-burgeoning glut of available information. I'd say I'm about 40-50% along the way to getting Allen's system implemented, and already I've seen huge improvements in my ability to stay on top of things and calmly deal with everything on our plates. By the time I'm done, I might even be able to reclaim some more time in my day for hanging out here at TMM.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on February 04, 2009, 04:16:23 pm
On the home front here, we bought a used, dirty, but functioning chest freezer for peanuts.

I hadn't thought of that! Do peanuts freeze well?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lazarus Long on February 04, 2009, 04:28:18 pm
On the home front here, we bought a used, dirty, but functioning chest freezer for peanuts.

I hadn't thought of that! Do peanuts freeze well?

They freeze OK, but not as well as pun-nuts.

OK, you can stick me in the freezer now.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 04, 2009, 04:44:58 pm
On the home front here, we bought a used, dirty, but functioning chest freezer for peanuts.

I hadn't thought of that! Do peanuts freeze well?

They freeze OK, but not as well as pun-nuts.

OK, you can stick me in the freezer now.

The Economy must really be tanking, 3 million out of work comedians and LL has to post here... :laugh:

As for myself, championed encryption, cruised around for the best price match on Silver Maple Leafs..made the "list" and committed funds to a 6 months food supply
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 05, 2009, 05:10:27 am
I bought another troy ounce of silver and sold three CD's that have been sitting in a box down in the basement for years.  Our house seems to be fully stocked with useless crap!  I also added the final items to my Bug Out Bag(blood sugar test strips - wife is Type 1 diabetic).  If the family and I need to get out of Dodge, we'll be ready.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 06, 2009, 09:05:05 am
I am buying silver coins and troy ounce bars. Yes the O/T is as an employee. The goverment has been getting their share. I am going to go get my taxes done today. Hopefully I get a refund instead of having to pay in.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: stainzblue on February 06, 2009, 09:41:53 pm
Got lots of good information on TMM today.  Making a list of useless things my SO and I can sell.  Spoke to a gunny friend about getting a decent, affordable scope for my Ar - 15.  He'll help me get it set right. 

I'm mainly gathering information and reading all I can, especially between security sweeps by the shuffling, fascist bosses at work.  Since I'm still a wage slave, I devised a way to write and post at work.  Each cell in Microsoft Excel can store something like 16,000 or 32,000 Characters.  Since I work in finance I always have a spreadsheet up on my screen. To the cell immediately to the right of the one I'm typing in I put a single period (this way the text in the cell I'm typing cant overflow visually into the adjacent cell.)  Then I shift back to the cell just to the left and begin typing what I'll either post or mail from my personal email account.  Then I just copy and paste. Bam.  Done.  I do this because people have gotten busted day-trading at work during these security sweeps; often they can't minimize their screens fast enough.  Now all I have to do is click out of the cell I'm typing in, and the text is so small anyway that someone would have to be literally pressed against my shoulder to see what I'm doing.  I feel like I have that wee bit of freedom at work.

Took inventory and confirmed that I've got rice, beans, beef jerky, nuts, pistachios, water. Also, looking into getting a decent trailer to tow things with my mountain bike...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 06, 2009, 10:30:27 pm
Poured the castings for a steam engine today  out in the shed........


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: clarence on February 06, 2009, 11:36:50 pm
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Also, looking into getting a decent trailer to tow things with my mountain bike...

look at the classifieds (and ebay, craiglist, freecycle, etc) for a kiddie trailer. strip the trailer down to the bare frame and make your own chassis to bolt on. i had a decent one until it was stolen along with the $400 bike it was attached to, locks and all.

clarence
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: stainzblue on February 07, 2009, 07:29:13 am
I am going to go get my taxes done today. Hopefully I get a refund instead of having to pay in.

I spoke to my accountant last night and he advised me to wait until at least the end of February to do my taxes.  He said there may be things in this bullhonky stimulus plan that may benefit us.  May pay to wait a bit.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: stainzblue on February 07, 2009, 07:35:51 am

 i had a decent one until it was stolen along with the $400 bike it was attached to, locks and all.


Bastards!  I guess I'll have my dog keep it company if I have to pop into a store or out of site.  I have the trailer in mind for him specifically so I can keep him with me more as he gets older.  Lord I love that bugger so much.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 07, 2009, 04:34:01 pm
Worked in the greenhouse and the chicken pen today.  I bought 20 lbs of beans, 20 lbs of rice, 5 lbs of salt and a large can of pepper. I try and stock up a little each week without raising eyebrows. The woman at the store asked why I needed so much rice and beans? I just said mice had gotten into our pantry and we had to stock back up. I try to spread out my buying at different stores to keep people from guessing I have a survival plan. The last thing I want is half the county at my doorstep if/when TSHTF. I had a man that lives in a large city nearby, tell me last week he was not stocking up on anything except guns and ammo. He said if the gov crashes the dollar he is gonna take what he needs. I worry about large groups of people with this same attitude.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 07, 2009, 05:20:46 pm
Worked in the greenhouse and the chicken pen today.  I bought 20 lbs of beans, 20 lbs of rice, 5 lbs of salt and a large can of pepper. I try and stock up a little each week without raising eyebrows. The woman at the store asked why I needed so much rice and beans? I just said mice had gotten into our pantry and we had to stock back up. I try to spread out my buying at different stores to keep people from guessing I have a survival plan. The last thing I want is half the county at my doorstep if/when TSHTF. I had a man that lives in a large city nearby, tell me last week he was not stocking up on anything except guns and ammo. He said if the gov crashes the dollar he is gonna take what he needs. I worry about large groups of people with this same attitude.

The part I bolded happened to me as well, at the local Sam's the clerk asked me if I owned a restaurant, oddest question at the time.

Funny the same thing happened to you, for me I "think" it was the 3 gallon stewed tomato tins.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on February 07, 2009, 06:38:48 pm
Worked in the greenhouse and the chicken pen today.  I bought 20 lbs of beans, 20 lbs of rice, 5 lbs of salt and a large can of pepper. I try and stock up a little each week without raising eyebrows. The woman at the store asked why I needed so much rice and beans? I just said mice had gotten into our pantry and we had to stock back up. I try to spread out my buying at different stores to keep people from guessing I have a survival plan. The last thing I want is half the county at my doorstep if/when TSHTF. I had a man that lives in a large city nearby, tell me last week he was not stocking up on anything except guns and ammo. He said if the gov crashes the dollar he is gonna take what he needs. I worry about large groups of people with this same attitude.

The part I bolded happened to me as well, at the local Sam's the clerk asked me if I owned a restaurant, oddest question at the time.

Funny the same thing happened to you, for me I "think" it was the 3 gallon stewed tomato tins.

Those amounts could be used for a company picnic or a chili cook-off.  The mice idea was excellent.

A few months ago I was in an Asian grocery store that was geared somewhat (but not entirely) towards restaurants.  They had 100lb bags of rice for $40, and they likely wouldn't care why you wanted it.  They had 10's if not a few hundred pallets of bags of rice, so a single hundred-pound bag might make them wonder why you're only buying one.  They also had small boxes of 4 bullion cubes of different flavors for oriental dishes, for only 59 cents or so.  I thought that would be a good idea to have some things like that to change up the flavor selection post-SHTF.  The bullion made excellent marinade for cubed steak and ground beef for different-tasting hamburgers.

On the preps side, I bought my first ounce of silver today - yes, one whole ounce!  The dealer wanted $29.95 for 1 troy oz. Christmas-themed no-name rounds.  When I asked how much over spot for generic rounds, I had the impression he felt cheated out of profit!  Sorry, I read up on it first!  Ended up with an Engelhard Prospector round after sifting through his tray.

Today I picked up a few more 4 gallon food grade buckets with lids, and scored two 15 gallon drums for transporting Kerosene.  At least the small drums I can manhandle when full, then transfer to the 55 gallon drums in the shed.  You know, if you're cacheing stuff, could you cache a 4 gallon pail of kerosene and a small camp stove in another pail, to have a smokeless way to keep warm or cook food?  The kero could sit there for years.

I have a 30 gallon blue plastic drum that held shampoo, but is now clean and has been vented to the atmosphere for some time.  Could I safely use this for potable water?  There is only a slight shampoo smell to it.  I'd guess that a person ingests more chemicals in a pack of hot dogs than you'd get from the water in this barrel.  Thoughts?

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on February 07, 2009, 07:06:30 pm
Was the shampoo manufactured in CHINA?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on February 07, 2009, 07:21:15 pm
Was the shampoo manufactured in CHINA?

At least it's shampoo, not milk or dog food!  Have the Twinkie people checked their stock?!?

Melamine, it's what's for dinner*!




*Brought to you by the Melamine Manufacturer's Advisory Board for Agronomics
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on February 09, 2009, 05:18:01 pm
The water will taste bad.  Much worse than you think.  Also, ingesting soap will make you puke.  I don't know how much.  I would not even concider using that barrel for food or water. 
Maybe for kerosene?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 09, 2009, 05:45:50 pm
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I have a 30 gallon blue plastic drum that held shampoo, but is now clean and has been vented to the atmosphere for some time.  Could I safely use this for potable water?  There is only a slight shampoo smell to it.  I'd guess that a person ingests more chemicals in a pack of hot dogs than you'd get from the water in this barrel.  Thoughts?

This is an off the wall idea (just like the rest of mine):

Most 'soaps' we buy now days are actually detergents. If you can't get all of the 'soap' out, fill it with water and pour in a quarter cup
of vegetable oil. This will give the 'soap' something to break up and dissolve. Pour it all out, rinse, and refill and test for 'soapy' smell
or taste.

It might work. :dontknow:

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on February 09, 2009, 06:56:53 pm
The water will taste bad.  Much worse than you think.  Also, ingesting soap will make you puke.  I don't know how much.  I would not even concider using that barrel for food or water. 
Maybe for kerosene?

Getting sick in the middle of a recovery scenario isn't worth the risk.  Kerosene is an excellent Plan B.  30 gallons is a good amount to have stashed in a backup location.  It would last a long time for cooking and lighting.  Better safe than sorry!

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 10, 2009, 04:20:09 am
I don't know about the germ in particular but all things oat keep much better than other grains.  It is full of vitamin E, a preservative.  I always add a cup to a batch of bread to prevent mold and help it stay soft.  It easily doubles the counter life of a loaf.  I also put it in quick breads for the same reason in smaller amounts.

Reeeeeally...  Thanks for the tip.  I make my own bread but have never added oat germ to it.  I'll have to pick some up.  Well, I learned something new today, time to go to bed!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on February 10, 2009, 07:48:34 am
I don't know about the germ in particular but all things oat keep much better than other grains.  It is full of vitamin E, a preservative.  I always add a cup to a batch of bread to prevent mold and help it stay soft.  It easily doubles the counter life of a loaf.  I also put it in quick breads for the same reason in smaller amounts.

Reeeeeally...  Thanks for the tip.  I make my own bread but have never added oat germ to it.  I'll have to pick some up.  Well, I learned something new today, time to go to bed!

If you haven't started grinding your own grain, I'd encourage you to do so.  I grind oat groats (along with lots of other things) with my flour, which gets me the germ, germ oil, fiber... all of it.  I've learned the most about breadmaking in the Backwoods Home bread and grains forum:  http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl?board=foo-bread

This page explains what is missing from commercial flour (even the ones calling themselves "whole wheat" or "whole grain").  http://www.nutritionlifestyles.com/homemill.htm
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 10, 2009, 10:24:42 am

If you haven't started grinding your own grain, I'd encourage you to do so.  I grind oat groats (along with lots of other things) with my flour, which gets me the germ, germ oil, fiber... all of it.  I've learned the most about breadmaking in the Backwoods Home bread and grains forum:  http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl?board=foo-bread

This page explains what is missing from commercial flour (even the ones calling themselves "whole wheat" or "whole grain").  http://www.nutritionlifestyles.com/homemill.htm

Wow.  Lots of great stuff here.  I usually buy store-brand whole wheat flour but now I see how borderline pointless it is!  I'll have to start searching Craigslist for a grinder!  Thanks for the great links.  My wife is really going to think I've gone off the deep end now.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 10, 2009, 10:45:21 am
  My wife is really going to think I've gone off the deep end now.

You will probably be moving towards preparedness about as fast as she can handle for the next little while. Then one day you will wake up to notice that she has come a long ways too and you will both look back at today glad you have made the changes you did.  (assuming of course you don't go too fast, causing her to have the men in white coats haul you off in a straightjacket)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 10, 2009, 07:02:43 pm

You will probably be moving towards preparedness about as fast as she can handle for the next little while. Then one day you will wake up to notice that she has come a long ways too and you will both look back at today glad you have made the changes you did.  (assuming of course you don't go too fast, causing her to have the men in white coats haul you off in a straightjacket)

Good point.  I should take things slowly for right now.  It took her a couple of weeks to fully appreciate the shelves I built in the basement that are now loaded with food and water.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 10, 2009, 07:43:08 pm
The husband learning to store, cook and eat rice, dried beans and sacks of grains can be a great way to "soften" the transition for the wife. You can become the expert in making pots of chili, red beans & rice, etc.  She will enjoy the help in the kitchen and you both will take advantage of cost savings as well as food security from the results.

Too many folks jump in to long-term food storage, then fail to take the next critical step: incorporating your stored food into your regular diet .. followed by maintaining and rotating your stock.

Where is "our" cookbook? 
There are a number of recipes in it that would fit well in this area.  Besides, it is a cool book to own and use.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on February 10, 2009, 09:10:30 pm
Butchered three broiler hens. Stuffed them in the freezer for now.

What ? Oh alright ....

Do you have your cup of tea or other beverage of choice and favorite snacks handy .... ?
Ahem ....
 
I help out with the local Junior Livestock Show and Auction every year here in our little town/county.
They have broiler hens, market [meat] rabbits, market lambs, market goats, market hogs and steers and heifers.

I have developed a reputation as a hard worker and generally handy kinda guy so I get to be the sanitation Engineer.
[I still haven't found the danged bell .... so I guess I don't get to ring it.  :rolleyes: ]

This year one of the adults there [a casual friend] announced that his daughter was now too old to compete any longer so....
He is getting out of the chickens and rabbits part of the game. He gave away all of his cages, travel boxes, watering dishes and feeding dishes for all of his rabbits and chickens.
I guess he will still raise goats, hogs and cattle.
Most everyone does hereabouts.
Except yours truly as I cannot afford the price of the dirt.

What ?  Yeah, yeah OK I'm getting to it ....
He comes to me [my friend above] the last night of the show and says "Say Gooch, Do you know how to convert live chickens into food ?"
[Translates to = Do you know how to butcher your own food ?]
I tell him Yep I haven't done so in a couple of years but I'm pretty sure that the process hasn't changed very much for oh nearly 1 thousand years or thereabouts.
So he gives me 6 live broiler hens that he doesn't want to have to take home because he wants to get out of the broiler chickens thing all together.
I found a couple of local people who could also "roll your own" and found homes [ovens ?] for 3 of them.
Then today I ended the "What will become of us ?" question for the remainder.

I was surprised at how many people who [in the past] have said [yeah we used to do that ...] but when offered a live chicken, remember these were livestock show beauties [6 to 8 lbs each], all of a sudden get a shocked look on their face or say nope not me I'll get mine from the grocery thanks.
Where do they think the grocery gets it from ?

Maybe I should add "chicken, turkey, goat, deer, rabbit, elk, hog, cow, and/or sheep converter" to my life skills list. (?)
How about "Conversionist" it's shorter and sounds more sexy than Butcher don'tcha think ?

OK. OK.  I'll stick with butcher.    sheesh ....  It was only a suggestion.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 10, 2009, 10:34:15 pm
Butchered three broiler hens. Stuffed them in the freezer for now.

What ? Oh alright ....

Do you have your cup of tea or other beverage of choice and favorite snacks handy .... ?
Ahem ....
 
I help out with the local Junior Livestock Show and Auction every year here in our little town/county.
They have broiler hens, market [meat] rabbits, market lambs, market goats, market hogs and steers and heifers.

I have developed a reputation as a hard worker and generally handy kinda guy so I get to be the sanitation Engineer.
[I still haven't found the danged bell .... so I guess I don't get to ring it.  :rolleyes: ]

This year one of the adults there [a casual friend] announced that his daughter was now too old to compete any longer so....
He is getting out of the chickens and rabbits part of the game. He gave away all of his cages, travel boxes, watering dishes and feeding dishes for all of his rabbits and chickens.
I guess he will still raise goats, hogs and cattle.
Most everyone does hereabouts.
Except yours truly as I cannot afford the price of the dirt.

What ?  Yeah, yeah OK I'm getting to it ....
He comes to me [my friend above] the last night of the show and says "Say Gooch, Do you know how to convert live chickens into food ?"
[Translates to = Do you know how to butcher your own food ?]
I tell him Yep I haven't done so in a couple of years but I'm pretty sure that the process hasn't changed very much for oh nearly 1 thousand years or thereabouts.
So he gives me 6 live broiler hens that he doesn't want to have to take home because he wants to get out of the broiler chickens thing all together.
I found a couple of local people who could also "roll your own" and found homes [ovens ?] for 3 of them.
Then today I ended the "What will become of us ?" question for the remainder.

I was surprised at how many people who [in the past] have said [yeah we used to do that ...] but when offered a live chicken, remember these were livestock show beauties [6 to 8 lbs each], all of a sudden get a shocked look on their face or say nope not me I'll get mine from the grocery thanks.
Where do they think the grocery gets it from ?

Maybe I should add "chicken, turkey, goat, deer, rabbit, elk, hog, cow, and/or sheep converter" to my life skills list. (?)
How about "Conversionist" it's shorter and sounds more sexy than Butcher don'tcha think ?

OK. OK.  I'll stick with butcher.    sheesh ....  It was only a suggestion.


Very Modern American Attitude Gooch, desire meat, don't wannaknow how it got into the plastic wrap at Albertson's..

As for "what did you do today to prepare?"

Dickered over some silver or gold, turned the soil in the 5 gallon bucket garden waiting for spring to arrive so I worked some egg shells into the soil.

And plotted the same, this year with such a small space it shall be herbs and peppers...the carrots and field onions did fine but did not yield enough to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on February 11, 2009, 12:05:28 am
Bought a couple of cookbooks , 200 Ways to cook Rice and Pinto Bean Cooking Contest Recipes. You can make fudge with Pintos. Pies.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 11, 2009, 03:12:35 am
finished off the machining on my steam engine.........
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thunder on February 11, 2009, 07:46:19 am
finished off the machining on my steam engine.........

And we're anxiously awaiting the photos.....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 11, 2009, 10:16:10 am
Last Saturday the wife and I took a class in emergency preparedness at Cabella's.

We came home and she put together mini bug-out-bags for each of us, and one
for the daughter. The idea is to have enough to deal with emergencies that fall
into the 3 minute - 3 hour - 3 day scales.

Turns out we had most of what we needed already, it just wasn't organized in a
BOB sort of way. We just had to buy personal water filters and she also put together
our medical kits.

Bear

PS: Did you know that some brands of feminine hygiene pads contain coagulant?

PPS: I also signed up for the Appleseed training in March.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on February 11, 2009, 11:20:17 am
finished off the machining on my steam engine.........

And we're anxiously awaiting the photos.....


Yep.   :thumbsup:   Seconded.

This old Navy boilerman, for one, would love to see a home rolled power plant of the steam variety.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on February 11, 2009, 12:23:39 pm


Bear

PS: Did you know that some brands of feminine hygiene pads contain coagulant?

PPS: I also signed up for the Appleseed training in March.




Really? Thats great, which ones? SVP.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 11, 2009, 11:50:55 pm
Well it's all together........and it ran first try :laugh:

running of my air compressor it runs stable at 20 PSI and puffs along at a slow crawl at 10PSI........and it screams like a banshee at 80PSI

And the only pictures I've got so far are the pcs of the raw castings still in the sand......as this started out as a home foundry experiment......but there's no sense in just pouring castings......so I built a steam engine.........

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: iloilo on February 12, 2009, 12:05:58 am
Well it's all together........and it ran first try :laugh:

running of my air compressor it runs stable at 20 PSI and puffs along at a slow crawl at 10PSI........and it screams like a banshee at 80PSI

And the only pictures I've got so far are the pcs of the raw castings still in the sand......as this started out as a home foundry experiment......but there's no sense in just pouring castings......so I built a steam engine.........



Most sincere and admiring congratulations!
Bravo!
ff
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 12, 2009, 01:33:23 am
Quote
Well it's all together........and it ran first try

running of my air compressor it runs stable at 20 PSI and puffs along at a slow crawl at 10PSI........and it screams like a banshee at 80PSI

And the only pictures I've got so far are the pcs of the raw castings still in the sand......as this started out as a home foundry experiment......but there's no sense in just pouring castings......so I built a steam engine.........

That's seriously cool!   :notworthy: :headbang: :occasion14:

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on February 12, 2009, 01:38:16 am

PS: Did you know that some brands of feminine hygiene pads contain coagulant?


No, and if it's all the same to you, I'd rather continue blissfully ignorant in that area, thank you.  In point of fact, I'll just go on pretending that such things don't actually exist until they directly impact my own personal life, thank you...  :P
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 12, 2009, 01:41:29 am
Quote
Really? Thats great, which ones? SVP.

I'll have to ask my wife what she bought and get back to you on that.

SecuritySix,

The point is that if you know which brands have it, you can get it without
buying any purpose-made product that might raise a flag with TPTB.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 12, 2009, 02:16:34 am
A kotex and a piece of guaze does a dandy job at patching a bullethole there S6

An having a coagulant is a very useful thing indeed there guy........

My brother "gaacked" himself and dug a big gouge out of his side when a screw in treestep came out during bow hunting about 15 years ago........and he wore a kotex for the rest of the hunt.......and I still tease him about it too :laugh:

(fixed dumb mistaken word)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on February 12, 2009, 02:20:18 am
Frigid Zoot/Funny though. Ought 7.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 12, 2009, 10:08:47 am
My wife tells me that any mini-pad is likely to have coagulant, but the maxi-pads might not.
She got some generic, unscented, mini-pads from the CVS pharmacy.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on February 12, 2009, 10:56:54 am
The troops in Iraq have been known to plug bullet wounds with tampons, in one case saving a life  by doing so.  If you're expecting any violence when TSHTF, might not hurt to have a few around.   :violent5:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on February 13, 2009, 01:24:02 am
My brother "gaacked" himself and dug a big gouge out of his side when a screw in treestep came out during bow hunting about 15 years ago........and he wore a kotex for the rest of the hunt.......and I still tease him about it too :laugh:

Might be worth bleeding to death to avoid the ridicule right there.  :P
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on February 13, 2009, 10:39:43 am
My brother "gaacked" himself and dug a big gouge out of his side when a screw in treestep came out during bow hunting about 15 years ago........and he wore a kotex for the rest of the hunt.......and I still tease him about it too :laugh:

Might be worth bleeding to death to avoid the ridicule right there.  :P

Now come on, securitysix, I'm sure you're more of a man than that...aren'tcha?   :wub:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 13, 2009, 05:39:11 pm
Bought beans, pasta, spices, olive oil, and more. Ordered some self pollinated seed. Told my brother again to stock up. Told my neighbor to get ready also. He is thinking along the same lines as me. He thinks when TSHTF that people will do what ever they have to to get by. The last thing I want to worry about is him being against me instead of with me. He is too close by to make and enemy of. He is a old trader from way back and knows how to turn a buck very well with little to no effort. I generally keep him at arms length to prevent from being snookered. He said things for him have picked up because of people looking to deal instead of buying new. I think all the prideful people in town are gonna be walking around with their hats in their hands. I had a man tell me yesterday he would steal food if he had to. It struck home a little cause I guess I expect alot of people would steal food and will before this is all over.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 13, 2009, 05:40:37 pm
My brother "gaacked" himself and dug a big gouge out of his side when a screw in treestep came out during bow hunting about 15 years ago........and he wore a kotex for the rest of the hunt.......and I still tease him about it too :laugh:

Might be worth bleeding to death to avoid the ridicule right there.  :P

Depends on whether or not you got a deer, if your successful it is worth it, if not...well...your bro will rag on you for 15 years or more..
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on February 13, 2009, 07:05:46 pm
My brother "gaacked" himself and dug a big gouge out of his side when a screw in treestep came out during bow hunting about 15 years ago........and he wore a kotex for the rest of the hunt.......and I still tease him about it too :laugh:

Might be worth bleeding to death to avoid the ridicule right there.  :P

Now come on, securitysix, I'm sure you're more of a man than that...aren'tcha?   :wub:

I don't even like band-aids.  I'm pretty sure I can find an excuse to avoid wearing a feminine product...  Besides, I've had enough nasty cuts to know that I clot pretty good on my own.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 14, 2009, 09:07:51 am
Just purchased 3 more troy ounces of silver - bringing the total to 21.  My goal is to have at least 100.  I'm oh so overjoyed to hear the massive welfare bill passed the senate.  God help us all.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 14, 2009, 06:28:56 pm
I went to 3 different stores and bought a buggy full at each one. Total spent $500. I have about a 6 month supply of food for 9 people. My goal is to have a year supply in the pantry. I am planning to build a root cellar
this summer. We are gonna can alot more this summer instead of freezing so much. We are using one freezer for meat and bread, the other for beans, rice, pasta, flour and frozen veggies from the garden. If TSHTF my oldest son, his wife and two boys will move back in with us and we will farm as much as possible. We own the house he lives in outright but If we could get us all here in one house we can guard our propertly better. With 4 men to guard the place we will be better prepared. We have plenty of guns and food. Next project is to build up the ammo a little more and work on our bug out bags. I am looking for a camper large enough for us if needed. We also taught the daughter in law how to cook dried beans and sent 4 types of beans home with her. She only knows how to open cans.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 15, 2009, 12:24:28 pm
stimulust purchased 3 more troy ounces of silver - bringing the total to 21.  My goal is to have at least 100. 
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Progress!

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I'm oh so overjoyed to hear the massive welfare bill passed the senate.  God help us all.

I think there are people on both sides of the aisle in Congress that are a little confused on the difference between
"can happen" and "must happen". They think that because stimulous spending can work under limited circumstances,
that it must work when they really need it to save their asses. Same goes for tax cuts for the wealthy to stimulate
job creation. It has worked, but it doesn't mean it works now, and doesn't mean it will generate the desired results.
What I see is a bunch of congress critters indulging in wishful thinking based on their own ideological biases.

Bear


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 15, 2009, 12:36:54 pm
What I see is a bunch of congress critters indulging in wishful thinking based on their own ideological biases.

Truer words have never been spoken.  It is CYA as far as the eye can see in DC.  Though I suppose it has been that way for quite a few decades now.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 15, 2009, 02:03:41 pm
Just purchased 3 more troy ounces of silver - bringing the total to 21.  My goal is to have at least 100.  I'm oh so overjoyed to hear the massive welfare bill passed the senate.  God help us all.

Check out the Goldismoney forum knobster, if you are looking for more silver.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 16, 2009, 04:58:59 am
[Check out the Goldismoney forum knobster, if you are looking for more silver.

Wow.  Lots of great stuff there!  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on February 17, 2009, 11:08:46 pm
Loaded up 500 rounds of .38 spl with my antique Rockchucker press. 

Made two 'Go Boxes' 81mm mortar boxes with cans of food, trioxane fuel, matches, Bic lighter, road flare, mylar blanket, aspirin, candy, fruit cocktail, feminine pads, water, tape, rope, knife, P38 can opener, etc.  One box with a variety of items to either grab and go or give to someone and tell them to 'go'.   

Next up is to reload all my empty .357 and 30-06 brass. 

Feel good.  It is official, I'm on a roll.   :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 17, 2009, 11:33:13 pm
stimulust purchased 3 more troy ounces of silver - bringing the total to 21.  My goal is to have at least 100. 
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Progress!

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I'm oh so overjoyed to hear the massive welfare bill passed the senate.  God help us all.

I think there are people on both sides of the aisle in Congress that are a little confused on the difference between "can happen" and "must happen". They think that because stimulous spending can work under limited circumstances, that it must work when they really need it to save their asses. Same goes for tax cuts for the wealthy to stimulate job creation. It has worked, but it doesn't mean it works now, and doesn't mean it will generate the desired results.
What I see is a bunch of congress critters indulging in wishful thinking based on their own ideological biases.

There are very few politicians who believe their own rhetoric. What we are seeing is a feeding frenzy covered by a credible smokescreen provided by the obfuscator PHDs the politicians set up as society's experts.  That the grand lies MIGHT be believed by stupid politicians is close enough cover for them.

They don't mind at all if you think they are stupid. Living the high life today is as far as their aspirations and moral codes take them. They can even get a giggle when they consider that the rubes THINK the politicians are stupid while they steal our money and we plod along muttering and paying the bill.

It's similar to the man who thinks his horse is stupid... who is feeding, grooming, paying vets, farriers and horse chiropractors???  ... who is shoveling the others s*** and putting down fresh shavings for the other every day?  An alien landing at a horse ranch would quickly figure out leader and slave ... the big guys are in charge and the little ones work for them.

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Back to the subject, we had our annual planning session... a bit more focus on building the pantry .. a bit more resources spent on being ready...   We have made progress, but have to do more.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 18, 2009, 04:18:17 am
It's similar to the man who thinks his horse is stupid... who is feeding, grooming, paying vets, farriers and horse chiropractors???  ... who is shoveling the others s*** and putting down fresh shavings for the other every day?  An alien landing at a horse ranch would quickly figure out leader and slave ... the big guys are in charge and the little ones work for them.

Excellent analogy.  I just might have to steal that one...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 18, 2009, 10:56:04 pm
It's similar to the man who thinks his horse is stupid... who is feeding, grooming, paying vets, farriers and horse chiropractors???  ... who is shoveling the others s*** and putting down fresh shavings for the other every day?  An alien landing at a horse ranch would quickly figure out leader and slave ... the big guys are in charge and the little ones work for them.

Excellent analogy.  I just might have to steal that one...

Thank you.
 Rather than to risk having it stolen, I hereby give it away.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: EwB on February 19, 2009, 12:26:02 pm
It's similar to the man who thinks his horse is stupid... who is feeding, grooming, paying vets, farriers and horse chiropractors???  ... who is shoveling the others s*** and putting down fresh shavings for the other every day?  An alien landing at a horse ranch would quickly figure out leader and slave ... the big guys are in charge and the little ones work for them.


cue Kent Brockman

   "I, for one, welcome our new  equine overlords." :laugh:

EwB


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on February 19, 2009, 02:42:47 pm
 Ordered 500 more sand bags
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on February 19, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
Currently I am working on my BOB.  Have had to explain it as my hiking backpack to keep those in the house from thinking I have gone over the edge.  Also have my wife reading Patriots.  I think that may be one of the biggest steps I could possibly make, as it is getting her to start asking questions and support some of the food storage, guns acquistion, ammo, etc.  I'm also working on getting my teens more involved.  Hope the weather breaks soon, as it will be a good excuse to do some back to the basics type camping. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 20, 2009, 04:20:49 am
Currently I am working on my BOB.  Have had to explain it as my hiking backpack to keep those in the house from thinking I have gone over the edge.  Also have my wife reading Patriots.  I think that may be one of the biggest steps I could possibly make, as it is getting her to start asking questions and support some of the food storage, guns acquistion, ammo, etc.  I'm also working on getting my teens more involved.  Hope the weather breaks soon, as it will be a good excuse to do some back to the basics type camping. 

Welcome to the forum!  Lots of great topics and even better people here.

I used the 'it's an emergency bag in case we have a fire' explanation and my wife was all for it then.  I have Patriots on my Amazon wish list - is it a good read?
I too am anxious for this winter to be over with; ice-fishing is fine but I would rather pull in some bass while wearing a t-shirt!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 20, 2009, 12:47:09 pm
Today, I picked up my small chainsaw from the repair shop, He replaced all the fuel lines, gaskets, and filters. I went to the local feed mill and picked up 10 lbs of open pollinated corn seed, 5 lbs of peanuts and 1 lb of lettage seed. Working in the greenhouse today potting up veggies for spring.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 20, 2009, 12:54:53 pm
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I have Patriots on my Amazon wish list - is it a good read?

I have an earlier copy, and have read it three or four times. As a novel, it's so-so.
The writing is a little uneven. Parts of it are excellent, and other parts could have
been done better. (Although to be fair, the last time I read it, I came away with
the impression that it was better written. I can't explain the difference of opinion
between then and earlier impressions.)

HOWEVER, if you think of it as a survival 'how-to' manual wrapped in a novel, then
it's an excellent book, and you won't let it go. I suggest you read it with a highlighter
pen in hand. I understand that the latest versions contain an appendix with the gear
and gear manufacturers listed. This would be very handy.

Bear





Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on February 20, 2009, 01:06:41 pm
I completely agree with Bear.  As a novel it can be a little preachy and choppy, but there is a lot of really good info mixed in and presents a real world crisis scenario without the same old nuke storyline.  It's almost scary how possible the storyline really is.  I would recommend it as a definite addition to your library.  I've used a highlighter on mine to make things easier to find.  The best part of the book is that it led me to realize just how inadequate my first aid kit and knowledge is. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on February 20, 2009, 01:11:57 pm
Put another 18 Morgan's and 500 rounds in the gulch and backed up two more weeks of food (28 now) at the house.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on February 20, 2009, 02:21:53 pm
I also agree with Bear. Story is hit and miss but tons of information. Im working on the holes It and this Forum showed me I have in my Preparations.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 20, 2009, 02:29:24 pm
Thanks for all the responses regarding 'Patriots'.  I'll move it from my Wish List to the shopping cart!

Regarding what I did today to prepare:  Purchased some seeds for container gardening I'm going to do this Spring.  I avoided the packets labeled 'Hyrbid'.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on February 20, 2009, 04:26:44 pm
Thanks for all the responses regarding 'Patriots'.  I'll move it from my Wish List to the shopping cart!

Patriots has ton of tips and tricks in it and is worth the 22.00, if one fishes around you can find the .PDF form of the earlier version of Patrtios called "The Gray Nineties" or "Triple Ought".

My only quibble is that more flexibility of scenario should have been written into the narrative.

And if I could recommend 1 other book, Boston T Party over at www.javelinpress.com has "Surviving Y2K" for 12 dollars is worth the money in spades as it deals in specific needs for modern self sufficiency all the way down to the number of watts needed to operate a modern home with either a generator, solar panels or a mixture of both.



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Regarding what I did today to prepare:  Purchased some seeds for container gardening I'm going to do this Spring.  I avoided the packets labeled 'Hyrbid'.

Sweet...nothing like a garden to put things into perspective.

As for my preps of the week, added some sweet silver bars and a bit of gold, added another 3 weeks of foodstuffs for boring but filing dining faire.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: stainzblue on February 20, 2009, 06:02:21 pm
Checked this useful thread again.  Purchased half pound of assorted silver coins.  Got my wife to finally read The Outlaw's Handbook...  She's on board because she loves me.  She still thinks I'm a little nuts, however. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 20, 2009, 10:33:10 pm
My 16 bred Boer Goat Does arrived today. All bred and due in 5 weeks with a trade back for any open Does. Visited a chicken/pig/beef farm today and researched raising options. Pigs are needed for sure but haven't figured out the logistics of multi-species grazing/raising. Getting closer. Feeling pressure to resolve these issues and get on with "the plan".


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 21, 2009, 03:40:51 pm
My 16 bred Boer Goat Does arrived today. All bred and due in 5 weeks with a trade back for any open Does. Visited a chicken/pig/beef farm today and researched raising options. Pigs are needed for sure but haven't figured out the logistics of multi-species grazing/raising. Getting closer. Feeling pressure to resolve these issues and get on with "the plan".




The first day inspection.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 21, 2009, 06:07:10 pm
Worked around the greenhouses. Took a small one down (12x20) at the store and moved it to my home. I am gonna set it up to grow peppers, lettace and tomatoes during the winter. The biggest event of the day occured when my wife walked into the computer room and stated she wanted to stock up on medical supplies. She already had a list made out. I think she is really coming around. Last Dec. I had worked a few days O/T and I intended to use the money to stock the pantry more. She and the kids managed to figure out other ways to get me to spend the money during Christmas. Last month I worked a few more days O/T and told her my intent was to again try and stock up the pantry more. She started telling me other uses for the money. I stood my ground. I told her my role as protector of our family one of my jobs was to be prepared and that I was going to buy more food and it was going to happen. There was long pause in the conversation, her staring at me like I had just lost my mind. I am not in a habit of fighting over trivial day to day activities like how many pounds of beans we have in storage. It was not really a fight over food  but more of a leadership role that needed to be taken. I could normally care less what is in the pantry, just as long as we have some food in the house for a few weeks or more. With the current world situation we need to be prepared. I had used a current event to make my point. Before Katrina hit people were warned by everyone. Some listened, many did not. Many that did leave had nowhere to go, very few were prepared for the next months of thier lives. I realize we can never be prepared for everything but we can make the fall a soft as possible. I keep telling her it is our safety net. Just like my 401k was my retirement safety net. Without other nets we all are at risk of falling to the ground.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 21, 2009, 06:13:01 pm
I ordered some sling swivels specific to my rifle, bought a sling, and went ammo shopping.

The 'ususal places' I haunt for ammo WERE COMPLETELY OUT OF .357 MAG, or had only
1 or 2 boxes of any kind left. Selection? Forget it!

So I go online... every who sells bulk ammo in .357 is out. Some brands cannot be back ordered.

Midway has something I can use for a price I can live with, but it's back ordered. Are they
reputable? Are their back order dates close to reality?

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on February 21, 2009, 08:29:19 pm
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Midway has something I can use for a price I can live with, but it's back ordered. Are they
reputable? Are their back order dates close to reality?
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I have never had any problems with Midway. They alway shipped stuff to me on a timely schedule. As far as back ordered Items I guess it all depends on where they are getting it from.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on February 21, 2009, 09:09:11 pm
My 16 bred Boer Goat Does arrived today. All bred and due in 5 weeks with a trade back for any open Does. Visited a chicken/pig/beef farm today and researched raising options. Pigs are needed for sure but haven't figured out the logistics of multi-species grazing/raising. Getting closer. Feeling pressure to resolve these issues and get on with "the plan".

How did I miss this - that is so cool! Do you have some of the Rafter or Widener line there?

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Today was probably the hardest day in a long time. We had a neighbor show us how to slaughter our goats. The wethers I was fine with - the doe was harder.  I caught her when she slid into the world, cared for her for 3 years, but culling had to happen as she was not an easy keeper. I did not anticipate it would be so difficult. I learned a lot today about myself and will use the information in the fall as we will have about 6-8 to go.

We also had to address with the kids their feelings about the culling and that whatever thoughts they had were valid. 

Tomorrow we de-bone and make "summer" sausage. Best part of that is a different friend who has wanting to learn for 10+ years (but was told it was a mans job) is going to come over and help. So I guess it'll be another long day - but strengthening the bonds to both family and friends is a good side benefit.

Mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on February 21, 2009, 10:43:36 pm
Mutti- I heard you on the radio yesterday- I had tried and was unable to locate a station nearby that carried the Brownfield show, even tho I knew of a local station thay carried it at one time, then quite by accident, I heard it (a replay, I think) on WGN, a Chicago station. Luckily, I have a VERY GOOD  AM radio, and picked it up. Congratulations on a fine job, and your award.

On another note, I bought and installed a surveillance camera today, to watch the driveway. It included a built-in mic and 80 feet of cable. It plugs in to my TV. Got it at Harbor Freight for $30  , and hooked it up in around 20 minutes or so. It works very well.  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on February 21, 2009, 10:47:53 pm
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Mutti- I heard you on the radio yesterday- I had tried and was unable to locate a station nearby that carried the Brownfield show, even tho I knew of a local station thay carried it at one time, then quite by accident, I heard it (a replay, I think) on WGN, a Chicago station. Luckily, I have a VERY GOOD  AM radio, and picked it up. Congratulations on a fine job, and your award.

I got an Award? Probably for most "talkative" guest  :rolleyes:. Thanks for listening - off to bed 3:30 am is just around the corner!
mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 21, 2009, 11:53:46 pm
My 16 bred Boer Goat Does arrived today. All bred and due in 5 weeks with a trade back for any open Does. Visited a chicken/pig/beef farm today and researched raising options. Pigs are needed for sure but haven't figured out the logistics of multi-species grazing/raising. Getting closer. Feeling pressure to resolve these issues and get on with "the plan".

How did I miss this - that is so cool! Do you have some of the Rafter or Widener line there?

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Today was probably the hardest day in a long time. We had a neighbor show us how to slaughter our goats. The wethers I was fine with - the doe was harder.  I caught her when she slid into the world, cared for her for 3 years, but culling had to happen as she was not an easy keeper. I did not anticipate it would be so difficult. I learned a lot today about myself and will use the information in the fall as we will have about 6-8 to go.

We also had to address with the kids their feelings about the culling and that whatever thoughts they had were valid. 

Tomorrow we de-bone and make "summer" sausage. Best part of that is a different friend who has wanting to learn for 10+ years (but was told it was a mans job) is going to come over and help. So I guess it'll be another long day - but strengthening the bonds to both family and friends is a good side benefit.

Mutti

Tough stuff to do.  Tough stuff you are made of. 
It is darn hard to go there, but I admire folks who do.
I suspect I will build up to it.
I hope it gets easier as it becomes part of the real life we must live.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 22, 2009, 07:01:05 am
I ordered some sling swivels specific to my rifle, bought a sling, and went ammo shopping.

The 'ususal places' I haunt for ammo WERE COMPLETELY OUT OF .357 MAG, or had only
1 or 2 boxes of any kind left. Selection? Forget it!

So I go online... every who sells bulk ammo in .357 is out. Some brands cannot be back ordered.

Midway has something I can use for a price I can live with, but it's back ordered. Are they
reputable? Are their back order dates close to reality?

Bear



Bear:

This is a very reputable dealer. I buy all from him.

DS

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-357-magnum
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 22, 2009, 08:11:02 am
My 16 bred Boer Goat Does arrived today. All bred and due in 5 weeks with a trade back for any open Does. Visited a chicken/pig/beef farm today and researched raising options. Pigs are needed for sure but haven't figured out the logistics of multi-species grazing/raising. Getting closer. Feeling pressure to resolve these issues and get on with "the plan".

How did I miss this - that is so cool! Do you have some of the Rafter or Widener line there?

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Today was probably the hardest day in a long time. We had a neighbor show us how to slaughter our goats. The wethers I was fine with - the doe was harder.  I caught her when she slid into the world, cared for her for 3 years, but culling had to happen as she was not an easy keeper. I did not anticipate it would be so difficult. I learned a lot today about myself and will use the information in the fall as we will have about 6-8 to go.

We also had to address with the kids their feelings about the culling and that whatever thoughts they had were valid. 

Tomorrow we de-bone and make "summer" sausage. Best part of that is a different friend who has wanting to learn for 10+ years (but was told it was a mans job) is going to come over and help. So I guess it'll be another long day - but strengthening the bonds to both family and friends is a good side benefit.

Mutti

Mutti:

I had to laugh because maybe it is a "man's job". My wife says she cannot eat anything she has looked at in the eye. I advised her that she might want to only look at the ass end instead because thats the better side to eat. :threvil:

Needless to say that comment was met with "mixed review(s)". Regarding the Widner-Rafter question, I don't know. I bought the "her-d" from a goat producer. Picked mine out from a herd of about 75. They range in age from about 5 months to 1.5 years. I was in error yesterday when I said they were all bred. Most are but some aren't.

I have decided to buy some gates to close off some alleys. I created 30 foot alleys so I could pull mowers, shredders and drive 16 wheelers through the alleys to my paddocks and thereby also create a buffer between paddocks for mares and stallions. It was a "good" idea but I also created a lot of edges to mow. With the new gates in place, the goat herd will now do all of the mowing and it will save both time and fuel. I intend to explore multi-species grazing as soon as I sell the 2-3 year old horses and free up the pastures. The goats will hopefully eliminate the broadleaf intrusion in the upland, not flood plain, pastures. We'll see...

A warm thank you for your on and off line counseling about goats. It was very helpful to me in working through some of the goat rearing questions I had. By the way, the horses went "wild" when we released the goats. They all watched in astonishment as these un-horse like critters moved around their paddock. The horses had a "damn, maybe they're gonna eat us too" look on their faces.

By the way, we have foundation quarter horse colts and fillies for sale if you need one. Will take goats in trade!

Best regards

DS

Edited to correct grammar and spelling, ugh!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on February 22, 2009, 08:03:28 pm
Made some really huge progress today, although it may not be the kind that most would think of.  My wife finished reading the Patriots book and asked a lot of questions.  About 2 hours later while sitting on the couch watching some of the news, she asked me if we had an extra backpack.  I told her I just gave the extra alice pack to the middle son because he wants to do some survival camping this summer.  She asked if I could come up with another one, so I asked her why.  She told me she wants to put together her own BOB.  Couldn't believe I heard her right.   Seems like she is getting on board which will sure make prep a lot easier.  She even started asking me about what sort of handgun would be best for her.  Gee, twist my arm to buy another gun.  LOL.  Things may actually start to move along at a much better pace.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on February 22, 2009, 09:03:00 pm
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By the way, we have foundation quarter horse colts and fillies for sale if you need one. Will take goats in trade!

I am not telling the 12 yo that - she'd trade right away!

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Went to neighbors at 8 am. Deboned 3 goats, ground and stuffed 44 approx. 2.5# summer sausage, put them up to smoke (uses a combo of apple/oak/hickory), ground 1/2 goat left for goa tburger, cleaned up, home at 4:30pm,  drained fromagina, , will finish jobs about 9:30pm.

I have new found respect for butchers/homesteaders - I am beat after 2  3:30am - 10:30 pm days! mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 22, 2009, 09:39:57 pm
Guys,

Thanks for the advice about Midway. I placed an order today, and it has a chance of getting
here in time for the Appleseed shoot. If not, I'll use up the last of the .38 special I have, and
perhaps get a little more.

I also put in an order for case of food in #10 cans from Emergency Essentials to fill in what
we've used up. My wife is slowly adding some of that food into our normal meals so that if/when
we must use it, it won't be a shock.

My wife was getting cabin fever, so we went for a drive and I stopped at an Army Surplus store
on an impulse. I got a nice empty metal ammo can (1000 rounds of 9mm) that had it's rubber
seal intact. The wife found some nice, cheap, surplus blanks for $6 each. She got them for our
BOBs, but she's thinking they might also make good batting for quilts. We'll have to see what
she does with them.

Yesterday I went down to Reno and found a place that sells scrap/surplus metal in small
quantities. I bought some steel for odds and ends projects. I bought some plate to use in a
door lock repair job.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wyomiles on February 23, 2009, 03:25:11 am
Bear , here are some ideas for the blankets.

http://www.nwtrader.com/patterns.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 23, 2009, 10:18:04 am
Wyomiles,

Thanks for the link. I've been thinking along those lines from time to time,
but didn't have a link to a good site that had so many patterns to choose
from.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 23, 2009, 11:39:16 am
Patriots has ton of tips and tricks in it and is worth the 22.00, if one fishes around you can find the .PDF form of the earlier version of Patrtios called "The Gray Nineties" or "Triple Ought".

And if I could recommend 1 other book, Boston T Party over at www.javelinpress.com has "Surviving Y2K" for 12 dollars is worth the money in spades as it deals in specific needs for modern self sufficiency all the way down to the number of watts needed to operate a modern home with either a generator, solar panels or a mixture of both.

As for my preps of the week, added some sweet silver bars and a bit of gold, added another 3 weeks of foodstuffs for boring but filing dining faire.

Thanks.  I'll check that one out as well. 

Another 3 weeks of foodstuffs?  Yikes.  I get excited when I add another gallon of water to my stockpile...  I'd better kick into high gear.
Title: blankets
Post by: jimp220 on February 23, 2009, 03:33:52 pm
Cheaperthandirt.com has some 100% wool Italian military surplus blankets for ~$12 that are really nice.  I have bout 20 now and if my freakin dogs would stop chewing them up they will be worth their weight some day. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on February 23, 2009, 06:10:31 pm
Went to the gym, worked out with my trainer.

I'm going to the gym 4 - 5 times a week; 2 - 3 times per week for resistance training, 2x per week to swim for about an hour.  I've got lots of excess calories sitting on my body, waiting to be burned off.

I've been going in 2 - 3 times per week for resistance training alone.  I added the swimming because I see time is short, and I need to get off my lazy ass.

Also, a couple of weeks ago, we ordered some Heirloom Seeds.  We're gonna turn the back yard into a garden, screw the Homeowner's Ass-ociation.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on February 23, 2009, 07:47:40 pm
Cheaperthandirt.com has some 100% wool Italian military surplus blankets for ~$12 that are really nice. I have bout 20 now and if my freakin dogs would stop chewing them up they will be worth their weight some day.

Just wondered, the wool blankets seem like a common item to stock up on.  Why?  I would think that a good high quality mummy/sleeping bag would be a better investment.  Please enlighten me, I'd hate to miss out on something I'm overlooking.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on February 23, 2009, 08:22:12 pm
Cheaperthandirt.com has some 100% wool Italian military surplus blankets for ~$12 that are really nice. I have bout 20 now and if my freakin dogs would stop chewing them up they will be worth their weight some day.

Just wondered, the wool blankets seem like a common item to stock up on.  Why?  I would think that a good high quality mummy/sleeping bag would be a better investment.  Please enlighten me, I'd hate to miss out on something I'm overlooking.


Good surplus wool blankets run from 10 to 20ish bucks apiece. Nice and heavy, nice and warm. Just add one to your reg blankets at night and you will see what I mean. I carry them in my truck, In the wifes car, and  nice stock of them in sealed bags. I wouldn't hesitate to give a few to someone in need of something warm to put on.  On the other hand my 250 dollar sleeping bag in its waterproof bag would be my last choice as a charity item.

Any way they are cheap and if you end up with a bunch of cold neighbors and relatives at your house a good wool blanket and a hot cup of coffee goes along way.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 23, 2009, 08:26:49 pm
Went to the gym, worked out with my trainer.

I'm going to the gym 4 - 5 times a week; 2 - 3 times per week for resistance training, 2x per week to swim for about an hour.  I've got lots of excess calories sitting on my body, waiting to be burned off.

I've been going in 2 - 3 times per week for resistance training alone.  I added the swimming because I see time is short, and I need to get off my lazy ass.

Also, a couple of weeks ago, we ordered some Heirloom Seeds.  We're gonna turn the back yard into a garden, screw the Homeowner's Ass-ociation.

DPR:

I had to laugh at the HOA comment. I write/contribute to the creation of CC&R's (Conditions Covenants $ Restrictions) as a part of my professional services. I have for years counseled my Clients to limit common landscape easements as they will be impossible to fund in the future. (Enter doe in headlight) The maintenance is typically funded by the HOA entirely, AKA assessments. My recommendations have always been rejected on this topic. However, I have been successful convincing Clients to essentially exempt backyards from landscape planting restriction by arguing that while the front yard has a shared (aka common) community value while the rear yard does not. Using the "native plant" "movement" as cover, I recommend exempting back yards from all plant restrictions. This enables rear yard Liberty Gardens to be planted and maintained.

The  :threvil: is indeed in the details.

I have also included community garden areas in lieu of parks but the sell has been a hard one. I eeven suggested grazing goats in community open space to minimize costs to the HOA and allow harvesting by local communities.

Blank stare at a wide eyed and bushy tailed planner pushing out of the litter box options...

There are many of us working towards complimentary goals.

DS






Title: Re: blankets
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 23, 2009, 09:05:09 pm
Cheaperthandirt.com has some 100% wool Italian military surplus blankets for ~$12 that are really nice.  I have bout 20 now and if my freakin dogs would stop chewing them up they will be worth their weight some day. 

Jimp:

Any experience with the various types and grades of blankets @ CTD??

Thanks
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 24, 2009, 05:21:22 am
Also, a couple of weeks ago, we ordered some Heirloom Seeds.  We're gonna turn the back yard into a garden, screw the Homeowner's Ass-ociation.

 :laugh:  I hear that!  I'm in the same boat regarding the HOA.  Me and mine will be starting container gardening this spring on our back porch.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on February 24, 2009, 06:35:33 am
The only blankets I have bought from CTD were the 100% wool ones mentioned.  I chose those due to wools ability to insulate even when wet and the fire resistant factor.  The Italian surplus are of good quality and worth the money, they were $10 but the secret got out and I suspect they raised the price when they saw the increase in demand. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 24, 2009, 07:32:25 am
The only blankets I have bought from CTD were the 100% wool ones mentioned.  I chose those due to wools ability to insulate even when wet and the fire resistant factor.  The Italian surplus are of good quality and worth the money, they were $10 but the secret got out and I suspect they raised the price when they saw the increase in demand. 

Thanks. I found them they are out of stock. Looks like the German ones are the back up but they are smaller.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lazarus Long on February 24, 2009, 04:52:19 pm
Bear:

This is a very reputable dealer. I buy all from him.

DS

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/pistol-ammo-357-magnum

As of today, this dealer had no FMJ .357 shown on their site at all. They did have some HP stuff, though. But practice ammo for .357 seems to be in really short supply. I was at a large gun show recently, and I don't think I saw more than about 10 boxes of FMJ .357 at the whole show. It was Fiocci (sp?), at $25 for 50 rounds. Ouch!

MTA: The supply of .357 HP was just about as scarce at the show - maybe 10 boxes of PMC. That was all I saw besides off-brand commercial reloads.

A local Wally World is nearly out of everything except bulk 12 gauge target loads - Judging by how empty their cabinets were, I'd say they were at about 10% of normal inventory. The sales clerk said they continued to receive new shipments, but they sell out in a big hurry.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on February 24, 2009, 05:12:52 pm
Lazerous Long,

I had to place a back order. I knew that I would before I called them.
If it gets here in time for the Appleseed shoot, great, if not, I won't
object to having it around later.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on February 25, 2009, 06:10:19 am
I ordered .38 special ammo for my new revolver: 500 rounds of JHP and 1000 rounds of LRN. Dagnabbit is it ever expensive lately!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on February 25, 2009, 09:15:00 pm
which is why I just finished reloading 1000 38 spl's on my antique Rockchucker press.  Primers, powder and bullets have more than doubled since I last bought them but it's still about half the price of buying new ammo. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on February 26, 2009, 08:04:02 pm
Bought a new freezer. It uses about a third of the power of my others and I plan to use it with a backup solar system.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on February 26, 2009, 08:20:50 pm
Worked on marksmanship at the range, gathered free reloadable brass, researching about reloading, and got a new gun cleaning kit (one of those all in ones, instead of the many odd pieces I currently have.)

Decided to make a schedule to shoot weekly.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on February 26, 2009, 09:35:16 pm

Worked on marksmanship at the range, gathered free reloadable brass, researching about reloading, and got a new gun cleaning kit (one of those all in ones, instead of the many odd pieces I currently have.)

Decided to make a schedule to shoot weekly.
Hey Texasbound,

Please allow me to mention the Appleseed marksmanship courses by the RWVA If you have not heard of them.

VERY worthwhile and there are several Appleseed sites here in the Lone Star State.

Appleseed (http://appleseedshoot.blogspot.com/)

They use the US AQT as a benchmark and teach folks how to qualify as Expert on the AQT.
The AQT is the US Military's Marksmanship Qualification system. 
There will be an Appleseed in the Corpus Christi area on April 19th to celebrate April 19th AND to help create more Riflemen.
This is a New Appleseed site and I sure hope it convinces the range owner to do more of them.

Tinny Rate HERE (http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php) is the website.  Enjoy.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 27, 2009, 04:47:45 am
Ordered a food dehydrator and a couple of books on the subject.

And....  noticed that my darling wife did not roll her eyes at this.  Sweet, sweet progress.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on February 27, 2009, 09:10:12 am
Convinced the woman that I should get a CMP M1 Garand with our tax refund money, before they get banned.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on February 27, 2009, 11:48:18 am
Just received my Country Living Grain Mill . Now the experiments begin. Ha Ha so many willing victims to try my recipes on.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 27, 2009, 02:25:19 pm
Just received my Country Living Grain Mill . Now the experiments begin. Ha Ha so many willing victims to try my recipes on.

Let me know how it goes.  I might be joining the ranks of owning a grain mill myself.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on February 27, 2009, 04:14:37 pm
Bought the Encyclopedia of Country Living.
Bought a couple cases of surplus ammo for my rifles.
I sent off for 100 stripper clips for one of those rifles.
Physical training- primarily "ruck humping", but also some light weight exercises.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on February 27, 2009, 04:39:31 pm
bought 20 oz of Silver Eagle coins.

Ordered hi cap mags.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on February 27, 2009, 04:49:54 pm
Ordered hi cap mags.

Do you mean normal capacity magazines?
(Sorry to be picky, but words have real meaning and I'll not concede the English Languge to the enemy.)

Suwch thingz are verbotten here.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on February 27, 2009, 09:19:17 pm
Ordered hi cap mags.

Do you mean normal capacity magazines?
(Sorry to be picky, but words have real meaning and I'll not concede the English Languge to the enemy.)

Suwch thingz are verbotten here.

I prefer "full capacity mags".

My service rifle (practice rifle in .223) is nearing completion. Barrel and free-float tube are attached to receiver/handguard. It appears that I am likely to be among those who got one done in the rush to beat the ban.

I'm sure hankering for a FedEx truck heavily ladened with bullets, primers, powder and brass to show up in my driveway and unload it all.  With all this counterfeiting going on you'd think Obama could send me a couple grand in play money so I can prepare properly.  Heck, I'd happily pay for the paper and ink.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thunder on February 27, 2009, 10:25:09 pm
I bought a lathe.  Atlas 12x36.

Figured I could use it in my gunsmithing, in addition to the other uses it has for needed parts when there isn't a source available.

Next step is a mill....


Tools are never really expensive until you need one and don't have it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on February 27, 2009, 10:44:44 pm

Tools are never really expensive until you need one and don't have it.

IMNSHO, that is a wise statement...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on February 28, 2009, 01:06:11 am
I bought a lathe.  Atlas 12x36.

Figured I could use it in my gunsmithing, in addition to the other uses it has for needed parts when there isn't a source available.


Is that a 12 inch swing with a 36 inch bed, Thunder?

For some reason, I was thinking your lathe had a 12 foot bed and a 36 inch swing...I was going to ask, "What kind of guns are you going to be smithing? Howitzers?" ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thunder on February 28, 2009, 05:49:13 am

Is that a 12 inch swing with a 36 inch bed, Thunder?

For some reason, I was thinking your lathe had a 12 foot bed and a 36 inch swing...I was going to ask, "What kind of guns are you going to be smithing? Howitzers?" ^_^

Now, wouldn't that be cool!  :D
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on February 28, 2009, 07:15:56 am
I would like to place my order now please.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on February 28, 2009, 01:59:40 pm
Sold a hundred bucks worth of useless stuff around the house.  Now I just need to decide what to spend the extra money on!  Bullets...  beans... band-aids...  So much to buy, unfortunately, so little time.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 28, 2009, 02:25:28 pm
Quote
Bullets... beans... band-aids.

Er uh........whatcha' gonna' do when yer bullets, beans, and bandaids run out?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on February 28, 2009, 02:41:58 pm
Quote
Bullets...� beans... band-aids.

Er uh........whatcha' gonna' do when yer bullets, beans, and bandaids run out?

Hehe were coming over to your place!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on February 28, 2009, 03:01:38 pm
Quote
Bullets...� beans... band-aids.

Er uh........whatcha' gonna' do when yer bullets, beans, and bandaids run out?

So far my plan is to run around in a panicked circle screaming incoherently and then cook the dog. :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on February 28, 2009, 05:02:24 pm
Quote
Bullets...� beans... band-aids.

Er uh........whatcha' gonna' do when yer bullets, beans, and bandaids run out?

So far my plan is to run around in a panicked circle screaming incoherently and then cook the dog. :laugh:

That reminds me of a poem;

When in danger,
Or in doubt,
Run in circles,
Scream and shout!

As for what to do when the bullets, beans, and bandaids run out- Has anyone read The Road by McCormick?

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on February 28, 2009, 05:26:48 pm
Did you mean the Road by Cormac McCarthy?

http://www.amazon.com/Road-Movie-Tie-Cormac-Mccarthy/dp/0307472124/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235863349&sr=1-1

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on February 28, 2009, 05:40:42 pm
My point is Thunder got himself a lathe........and thus the means to make products that he can sell or trade for more beans, bullets, and bandaids......

What you folks doing to create the means to get more beans, bullets, and bandaids?

Hell........that's a major part of "preparing"........and folks don't seem to bring that part up too much.......after all......"the end of the world as we know it" is only the beginning of another........
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lightning on February 28, 2009, 05:52:02 pm
Hell........that's a major part of "preparing"........and folks don't seem to bring that part up too much.......after all......"the end of the world as we know it" is only the beginning of another........

Excellent point.   :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on February 28, 2009, 06:18:55 pm
Did you mean the Road by Cormac McCarthy?

http://www.amazon.com/Road-Movie-Tie-Cormac-Mccarthy/dp/0307472124/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235863349&sr=1-1



That's the one.
Pretty depressing, but an interesting worst case scenario.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on February 28, 2009, 06:37:38 pm
Did you mean the Road by Cormac McCarthy?

http://www.amazon.com/Road-Movie-Tie-Cormac-Mccarthy/dp/0307472124/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235863349&sr=1-1



That's the one.
Pretty depressing, but an interesting worst case scenario.

It makes me wonder if such a life is worth living,carrying on for. If you are barely recognizable from a feral animal is that really surviving? Or do you owe your future generations (if they ever materialize)every drop of blood and determination to hang  in just in case it does get better or you can find a real place to exist and  recapture your humanity.  Interesting questions, hopefully I will never have to answer.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on February 28, 2009, 06:48:21 pm
Stopped and smelled the flowers and daydreamed.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on February 28, 2009, 07:09:57 pm
Stopped and smelled the flowers and daydreamed.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on February 28, 2009, 11:06:20 pm
Communicated with my Allies.

As it draws near, communication with surrounding Allies will become increasingly more difficult, but we still have time.
Watch inflation, it is the earliest warning sign. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: El Topo on February 28, 2009, 11:41:27 pm
Today I took the step of self sufficiency towards self defense.
Today I decided when I was leaving this cesspool.
Today I called my friend, a recent Iraq veteran and encouraged him to read Patriots after having a copy sent to his house.

Poor bastard, still gives Uncle Sam the benefit of the doubt after everything they have done to him and his family.

It hurts.

D!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 01, 2009, 07:02:47 am
Sold 3 horses (colts)
Discovered they (colts & fillies) are afraid of the goats, I guess because they're "cow horses". Laughed my ass off.
Horizontally hung crescent moon low on western sky
Decided it was the most beautiful day of my 63+years
No one argued with that opinion
Decided not to ask for one.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 01, 2009, 11:36:59 am
Improved my gulch skills by doing some mechatronics homework at home on my lathe,
rather than use the class lathe and have people hanging over my shoulder. It's funny,
but sometimes the way to make faster progress is to go slow.

Bear

PS: The piece is an axel for the catapult. It's was cut out of round bar stock that is
      too long and too large in diameter so that we can get more experience cutting
      it down. Also, I will need to turn the ends down further to fit the bronze bearings.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on March 01, 2009, 11:52:38 am
Improved my gulch skills by doing some mechatronics homework at home on my lathe,
rather than use the class lathe and have people hanging over my shoulder. It's funny,
but sometimes the way to make faster progress is to go slow.

Bear

PS: The piece is an axel for the catapult. It's was cut out of round bar stock that is
      too long and too large in diameter so that we can get more experience cutting
      it down. Also, I will need to turn the ends down further to fit the bronze bearings.



That is sooooo cool!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 01, 2009, 12:04:40 pm
Quote
As for what to do when the bullets, beans, and bandaids run out- Has anyone read The Road by McCormick?

Yes, I have.  It paints a painfully dismal post-apocalyptic picture, but one in which love and goodness survive in the face of evil and hopelessness.  I saw it as being about the survival of the human spirit.  It's a very well-written book, and I recommend it to all.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 01, 2009, 12:10:04 pm
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Or do you owe your future generations (if they ever materialize)every drop of blood and determination to hang  in just in case it does get better or you can find a real place to exist and  recapture your humanity

For some the existing system is hell unto itself, for others any change would be hell.
Our own personal thoughts determine whether the future is bright or bleak........
And our choices of "how" to prepare for the future tells both ourselves as well as others, in more than words, whether we fear a free future or welcome it..........and in fact betrays us via telling others what we think this future will be.......again based on our own personal thoughts about the future.......

And yes indeed our choices even tell those others whether we fear or welcome them into our future as well..........and whether each individual wishes to build a future, fight the future, or hide from it.........

And that my friend.......is why "I" give folks an "atta'boy" when they do something that will help them build a future, rather than fight it or hide from it............
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 01, 2009, 01:18:56 pm
This week we bought two more solar panels, and stocked up on more Rx meds (including antibiotics) in Mexico.  Also tequila - could come in handy for barter, medicinal use, whatever.   ^_^

DH helped an RVing friend of ours, who also uses solar energy, to check the condition of his battery bank.  We meet up with these friends near Yuma in the winter, and in Oregon sometimes in the summer, so we might be near them when TSHTF.  In that case, we want them to be as ready as possible, too.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 01, 2009, 04:46:33 pm
Went to the range this morning and worked on shooting skills.  Picked up about 500 rounds of reloadable used brass in misc. calibres.  Ordered parts to refit an old military rifle and bring it up to a decent usable condition.  Added 2 blankets to my supplies, and 6 reloading books donated by a friend who is moving out of town.  Gathered a bit of range lead in prep for some future bullet casting. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thunder on March 01, 2009, 05:24:17 pm
Improved my gulch skills by doing some mechatronics homework at home on my lathe,
rather than use the class lathe and have people hanging over my shoulder. It's funny,
but sometimes the way to make faster progress is to go slow.

Bear

PS: The piece is an axle for the catapult. It's was cut out of round bar stock that is
      too long and too large in diameter so that we can get more experience cutting
      it down. Also, I will need to turn the ends down further to fit the bronze bearings.

Good to go!  I've been anxiously awaiting to hear what progress/projects you've made ever since you mentioned getting a lathe.  Would love to hear/see more...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 01, 2009, 09:25:01 pm
Quote
Good to go!  I've been anxiously awaiting to hear what progress/projects you've made ever since you mentioned getting a lathe.  Would love to hear/see more...

Well, the mech class has been the kick in the butt I've needed to get going again. The problem has been
that by doing this completely on my own, I've been worried about breaking stuff. Today I figured out that
the screeching noises I've heard on the lathe from time to time are due to the material turning to fast and
taking too shallow a cut.

I learned that you want the shavings to come off as short curls of metal. If the metal comes off as one long
curl, but does not break, it's not removing the heat from the cutting tool, and you can damage the cutting
tool. Also, at the other extreme, if the metal is coming off in such small pieces that it looks ground, again,
you are not relieving the heat from the cutting tool, plus you may end up work-hardening the surface.

I also learned that how to play with the feed rate so that I can slow down progress of the cutting tool
into the steel. So there are three things to play with to find the 'sweet spot' when cutting on the lathe:
1. RPM of the material, 2. Depth of cut, 3. Feed rate into the material. The range of working values for
depends on the material being cut, the outside dimensions, and the cutting tool used.

I heard the instructor mention to another student that it looked like the mild steel rod was a little out of round.
I had already cut my piece for my axel, so what I did (at home) was to take 0.001" of the surface of the whole
thing to get it in round (and to make it shiny) :laugh:

After I did that, I faced both ends of the rod to bring it down to 3" in length. (Did I mention this is a table
top size catapult?)

The two bronze (or some sort of copper alloy) bearings are about 0.498" in inside diameter, and 0.500 deep. I
turned down the ends of the axel to 0.496" for a length of 0.510". This allows a close but smooth fit
between the axel and bearing with being so loose that it chatters. My instructor suggested adding a ".010"
to the end to reduce the chance of face of the cut wearing on the face of the bearing.

I had suggested that I use a ream to make the bearings a true 0.500" inside diameter, but he said that this
was partly an exercise in making our parts fit something else. (Otherwise, he was for the idea, as the bearings
were not exactly round on the inside, and reaming them would improve that.)

Tuesday I'll mill a flat spot on the axel for the throwing arm to mount to, after I find out what the dimensions are.

Bear


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: surveillancejunky on March 02, 2009, 01:53:31 am
To answer the initial question:

Just secured and fortified some property "up north..." (Michigan)  Like maniacs, we're gearing up to represent urban(Detroit) and country farmers...

The goal?  To bring forth local solutions for whatever comes.  Luckily we had the resources to grow food and provide resources for people.

If not, they don't have to know!

Peace and Liberty Forever
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 02, 2009, 04:17:40 am
Just secured and fortified some property "up north..." (Michigan)  Like maniacs, we're gearing up to represent urban(Detroit) and country farmers...

I envy you!  Me and mine will be stuck in the Grand Rapids area for at least a couple more years while we save money like crazy before purchasing some land in the area.  I'm hoping for ~10 acres on which to survive and (hopefully) thrive.  Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 02, 2009, 07:13:37 am
On the way back from a trip to Illinois Sunday, I took a detour to Cincinnati and bought 1,000# of hard white wheat from a bee-keeper who got it in Oklahoma or somewhere while on bee-keeping business. It's stacked in my basement on a pallet, waiting to go into buckets. Paid $0.30/lb, which happens to be exactly the same as the cheapest bleached flour you can buy in my area.

While I was there I checked Craigslist and hopped over to Kentucky and got a 15.5 gallon stainless steel beer keg for $20.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on March 02, 2009, 04:25:42 pm

Took the fiancee to the range again.  Pistols indoors this time.

Relearned that the Tokarev has one hell of a flash, throws casings a good 25 feet and isn't reloadable.  The casings have one small hole about half way from centre to side wall.  But at $300 for 2250 rounds...  She really likes it.  It has a nice heft in the recoil.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on March 02, 2009, 04:50:27 pm
Tokarev has one hell of a flash

Makes you smile every time, don't it?  :)

Glad you got your lady out and that she likes to shoot.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 03, 2009, 04:47:56 am
Bought some more silver, added another case of foodstuffs to the shelves in the basement and put every penny of my tax refund towards paying down debt.  (That was hard... so tempting to buy toys!)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thunder on March 03, 2009, 05:55:27 am
Continued on my welding course.  Remember:  it's all about the puddle...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 03, 2009, 07:59:09 am
Bought some more silver, added another case of foodstuffs to the shelves in the basement and put every penny of my tax refund towards paying down debt.  (That was hard... so tempting to buy toys!)


Waiting for my return also.  Same here, it all goes to pay off my wifes car.  I won't have any car payment after this.  My only debt will be what is left on the house.  Good feeling.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 03, 2009, 12:04:02 pm
Made my first batch of flour from the hard-white wheat I picked up near Cincinatti. Adapted this recipe (http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/beginnersbread.htm), plus powdered milk per this recipe (http://www.hillbillyhousewife.com/familybread.htm), using the "sponge method" documented here (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/100335/make_better_bread_in_your_bread_machine.html?cat=22). When I left for work this morning, the timer was set for three hours rising the sponge, followed by 3:40 cooking time, for an ETA of 5:15 this afternoon. I'll update this post with the recipe, if it works.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 03, 2009, 02:39:18 pm
Quote
My instructor suggested adding a ".010"
to the end to reduce the chance of face of the cut wearing on the face of the bearing.


I'd suggest adding a brass washer to each side......thus making replaceable "consumable" wear surfaces.................
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 03, 2009, 03:01:33 pm
Quote
Quote
My instructor suggested adding a ".010"
to the end to reduce the chance of face of the cut wearing on the face of the bearing.


I'd suggest adding a brass washer to each side......thus making replaceable "consumable" wear surfaces.................

The bronze bearings are bolted to the side plates with 1/4" bolts. If the bearing wears too much,
it's a pretty simple matter to unbolt the bearing and slide the out from between the side plates.

The side plates are each made of two L shaped pieces of sheet metal spot welded together back to back, and then
spot welded to the base. (Did I mention spot welding is cool?)

Each of us cut our own sheet metal on a sheet metal shear and then used a sheet metal brake to put the proper
bends in them. Pretty easy to get the hang of it.

Bear



Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 03, 2009, 05:31:56 pm
Bought 45 fruit trees and 36 blueberry bushes, 5 muskadine vines. I already have a half a dozen fruit trees planted 10 years ago and 5 blueberry bushes planted 3 years ago, We have plenty of blackberries growing on our property already. The reason for planting the mushadines is because you need them to make muskadine wine. There were plently of wild ones in this area until the last few years. Roving bands of mexicans have cut them all down making wreaths. Lots of people have had to run them off their land. The police recently arrested 4 of them that were cutting someones grape vines down from their back yard. They were found out to be illegal. The gov told the city police to release them becasue they we too overwhelmed to pick them up. They were released with no fine for time served, 1 day.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 03, 2009, 06:55:40 pm
They were found out to be illegal. The gov told the city police to release them becasue they we too overwhelmed to pick them up. They were released with no fine for time served, 1 day.

That is simply wonderful news!! 

[/sarcasm]

But, that is another post, another day...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 03, 2009, 08:48:55 pm
Brought home two more bricks of .22, a box of 100 .45 acp and a small box of 12 ga. rifled slugs for the "convincing tool".

Made contact with friends and "cohorts" here and elsewhere.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 04, 2009, 01:46:25 am
Brought home two more bricks of .22, a box of 100 .45 acp and a small box of 12 ga. rifled slugs for the "convincing tool".

Made contact with friends and "cohorts" here and elsewhere.

Hey Daddy Warbucks, howdya afford those luxuries?  I gotta find a way to stock up on ammo before obammo cuts off my supply.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on March 04, 2009, 03:53:55 am
Brought home two more bricks of .22, a box of 100 .45 acp and a small box of 12 ga. rifled slugs for the "convincing tool".

Made contact with friends and "cohorts" here and elsewhere.

Hey Daddy Warbucks, howdya afford those luxuries?  I gotta find a way to stock up on ammo before obammo cuts off my supply.

Word on the street is that he is selling Kidneys. (Don't go over to his place for free drinks!) ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on March 04, 2009, 04:00:36 am
This post is totally off topic, sorry.

Bought 45 fruit trees and 36 blueberry bushes, 5 muskadine vines. I already have a half a dozen fruit trees planted 10 years ago and 5 blueberry bushes planted 3 years ago, We have plenty of blackberries growing on our property already. The reason for planting the mushadines is because you need them to make muskadine wine. There were plently of wild ones in this area until the last few years. Roving bands of mexicans have cut them all down making wreaths. Lots of people have had to run them off their land. The police recently arrested 4 of them that were cutting someones grape vines down from their back yard. They were found out to be illegal. The gov told the city police to release them becasue they we too overwhelmed to pick them up. They were released with no fine for time served, 1 day.

Anyone interested in this subject could read this book;
Hanson's 'Mexifornia'
http://www.amazon.com/Mexifornia-Becoming-Victor-Davis-Hanson/dp/1893554732

Mexifornia; Five Years later~Hanson
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_1_mexifornia.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 04, 2009, 05:48:19 am
The bread experiment was a near-total failure. It failed to rise, yielding a 3" high loaf somewhere around pound-cake consistency. Edible, so not a total failure.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on March 04, 2009, 06:42:59 am
The bread experiment was a near-total failure. It failed to rise, yielding a 3" high loaf somewhere around pound-cake consistency. Edible, so not a total failure.

Sorry to hear that, Lenny.  I've fairly recently started grinding all my own flour and baking bread.  Did you trust the bread machine with the whole thing?  If so, that's probably the primary problem, though there could have been others too.  Anyway, I got the most help and the most useful information in the Backwoods Home Magazine forums, in their Bread and Grains forum.  There's one lady there who posts a lot who is an absolute godsend - a bonafide super expert - consultant to professional bakeries, judges baked goods at fairs, etc.  She is extremely knowlegable and super helpful. 

http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/yabb/forum.pl?board=foo-bread

I'd try to give you some advice here if you want to start a new thread in an appropriate spot.  I've gotten pretty good at this stuff myself.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: LibertyBelle on March 04, 2009, 08:56:47 am
I've never been able to get whole grain breads to rise properly in a bread machine. I gave up and now use the machine for fruit breads and cakes. It works fine for that.

I started another round of seeds for the garden this morning. I'm going to inventory the storage and prepare a new garden bed this afternoon.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 04, 2009, 10:34:24 am
I started another round of seeds for the garden this morning. I'm going to inventory the storage and prepare a new garden bed this afternoon.

Argh!  The ground is still frozen solid here in Michigan!  Spring cannot get here fast enough...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on March 04, 2009, 11:58:10 am
Woe is me.....same here.  Today was a tropical minus 12. 

I am positively green with envy that some folks can go out with no fear of freezing something off.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 04, 2009, 02:42:55 pm
Woe is me.....same here.  Today was a tropical minus 12. 

I am positively green with envy that some folks can go out with no fear of freezing something off.

Bluebonnets are coming out. Willow, ash and cedar elm are in bud break. Broadleafs are showing their heads. Emergent plants are breaking water.

Spring is very close.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 04, 2009, 08:53:45 pm
Brought home two more bricks of .22, a box of 100 .45 acp and a small box of 12 ga. rifled slugs for the "convincing tool".

Made contact with friends and "cohorts" here and elsewhere.

Hey Daddy Warbucks, howdya afford those luxuries?  I gotta find a way to stock up on ammo before obammo cuts off my supply.

I had a minor windfall.
I was working a temp job and found an frn on the ground.
Serendipity ?
This is not the first "gift" of money I have gotten only this one was my First Berry Fine Gift.
{Ben My Friend what are you doing down there ?}
I have a habit of watching the ground and picking up money even the pennies. [It only takes 100 of them to make a cup of coffee.]
And I have made it a habit of saying "Thank you for the money" with every single one of them.
Being an agnostic on things spiritual I guess I am thanking the human race for their [sometimes unintended] generosity. (?)

So back to the story ....
When no one had called for it for three days.  I accepted the responsibilities of seeing that it was properly taken care of and so forth and so on.
I wandered into Wally World and presto change-o it turned into the list above and several gallons of "pushaline" for the trusty steed.
An amazing metamorphosis If I do say so myself.

I wish it on us one and all.

Selling kidneys ?  Hmmm ....  I wonder if there is a "Surgery for the simpleton" website ?  Sharp knives I have already got ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 04, 2009, 10:40:41 pm
I've never been able to get whole grain breads to rise properly in a bread machine. I gave up and now use the machine for fruit breads and cakes. It works fine for that.

I started another round of seeds for the garden this morning. I'm going to inventory the storage and prepare a new garden bed this afternoon.

New discovery in the SMS household:  In traditional breadmaking, the yeast proofs before it meets with the flour.  In a bread machine, they all get tossed in together before the process begins.  This is not perfectly happy for the yeast when you are using real (whole wheat) flour.

Try proofing the yeast with a bit of the water (maybe 1/3rd...warm) for 20-30 minutes. THEN toss it all into the bread machine.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 04, 2009, 11:45:30 pm
Gave up trying to find any .22 ammo around here, so I ordered 2500 rounds, plus 100 rounds of .40sw today.  Finished making pistol grips for an old resurrected .22 SA revolver I picked up a while back.  I also began setting up a reloading bench.  After all the trouble I'm having finding ammo to buy, the whole reloading thing sounds better all the time.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on March 05, 2009, 01:00:46 am
I've never been able to get whole grain breads to rise properly in a bread machine. I gave up and now use the machine for fruit breads and cakes. It works fine for that.

I started another round of seeds for the garden this morning. I'm going to inventory the storage and prepare a new garden bed this afternoon.

New discovery in the SMS household:  In traditional breadmaking, the yeast proofs before it meets with the flour.  In a bread machine, they all get tossed in together before the process begins.  This is not perfectly happy for the yeast when you are using real (whole wheat) flour.

Try proofing the yeast with a bit of the water (maybe 1/3rd...warm) for 20-30 minutes. THEN toss it all into the bread machine.

I've had success with WW bread by adding wheat gluten to increase the protein content.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bennie on March 05, 2009, 01:19:28 am

I have a habit of watching the ground and picking up money even the pennies. [It only takes 100 of them to make a cup of coffee.]
And I have made it a habit of saying "Thank you for the money" with every single one of them.
Being an agnostic on things spiritual I guess I am thanking the human race for their [sometimes unintended] generosity. (?)


I always pick up money on the ground. Walking from the WalMart parking into the store and back to the truck always netted at least a few cents. I have noticed, that in the last 6 months, even pennies on the ground are getting scarce. People are maybe more careful not to drop coins these days.

In other news, I have found 9mm ammo hard to get at WalMart the last few months. Finally last week I went in and asked for some. The guy laughed and said, "I just got a case in this morning and put in on the shelf.  5 minutes later a man walked in and bought it all. But when it came in I also found a box of 100 stuck in the back of the shelf. He didn't buy that. You want it?"  ..... Everytime I go in that store pickens are slim. They never seem to completely run out of 30-30 or .22, but the shelves are not full by any means.

They also have that little pink .22 Cricket rifle on sale for $106 bucks. The wife thinks it is "so cute" and it fits  her perfect, but I can't bring myself to (1) buying a single shot (2) going on record with ID to make the purchase.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on March 05, 2009, 04:05:49 am
My first rifle was a single-shot .22, and my first shotgun was a single-shot .410.  I still have both, and have used both to smite countless possums (seriously, I lost count at somewhere around 30, and that was a good 15 years ago).  The thing about only having one shot available is that it does teach you to make that one shot count, especially when it matters.

I can't fault you for not wanting any guns to be papered, though.  A bit late for me to worry about that, but I still try to buy off paper when I can.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 05, 2009, 10:51:33 am
Quote
They also have that little pink .22 Cricket rifle on sale for $106 bucks. The wife thinks it is "so cute" and it fits  her perfect, but I can't bring myself to (1) buying a single shot (2) going on record with ID to make the purchase.

Unless you are completely free of paperwork this isn't a real issue. Besides, if you have her buy it, then
she's 'bought in' to buying firearms, and the next time you want something, there will be less resistance.

Bear

PS: The fact that it's pink doesn't have anything to do with it, does it? :laugh:

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on March 05, 2009, 10:53:41 am
Emergent plants are breaking water.

Tuesday night I made a very bean-ful stew.  Yesterday, I was breaking wind. :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 05, 2009, 01:30:32 pm
Bought a new skillet. Worked in the greenhouses. Ordered 500 blueberry bushes.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 05, 2009, 03:22:48 pm
Bought a new skillet. Worked in the greenhouses. Ordered 500 blueberry bushes.

Dang Psycho 500 blue berry bushes.  Seriously, where the heck did you manage to find all those?  2nd question.  Do you really need that many for a family or what?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on March 05, 2009, 04:07:01 pm
Got my Thompson M1 Semi-auto rifle sent off to the factory for repair...finally.  Hopefully they can make it work.  It's got all the potential to be a fun gun to shoot, and while it's not a hunting gun and it wouldn't be my go to gun for much of anything, it would be excellent as a backup the backups.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BeenAround on March 06, 2009, 12:01:08 am
Waiting for order of Tabasco peppers,four more kinds of hot peppers,child safe peppers,a couple of cherry trees,some black walnut trees,and elder berries.Now I got to clear some of the limbs from an ice storm,fight the rocky ground and the few ticks waking up and I'll be ok.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bennie on March 06, 2009, 03:18:18 am
Quote
They also have that little pink .22 Cricket rifle on sale for $106 bucks. The wife thinks it is "so cute" and it fits  her perfect, but I can't bring myself to (1) buying a single shot (2) going on record with ID to make the purchase.

Unless you are completely free of paperwork this isn't a real issue. Besides, if you have her buy it, then
she's 'bought in' to buying firearms, and the next time you want something, there will be less resistance.

Bear

PS: The fact that it's pink doesn't have anything to do with it, does it? :laugh:


Actually, I kinda have very few problems with the color pink ^_^. ............... I have lucked out so far and no firearms are papered, mostly because they are like my single shot 20guage dad gave me as a kid, or other rifles / pistols that I picked up along the way because somebody I know needed the money. Alright maybe you talked me into it. I'll send her into the store and buy the .22.

Luckily she  likes guns just fine and is quite fond of  the little .38 Special I gave her, keeping it under her bed. ........... After last fall's hurricane she has a little better appreciation for food supplies I add to, though she doesn't quite buy into the idea that the store shelves will go bare. But she doesn't give me much grief and actually adds her "special needs items" into what she refers to as the doomsday closet.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 06, 2009, 04:47:00 am
Bought a new skillet. Worked in the greenhouses. Ordered 500 blueberry bushes.

Dang Psycho 500 blue berry bushes.  Seriously, where the heck did you manage to find all those?  2nd question.  Do you really need that many for a family or what?

I'll second that.  500?!?  How many bushels does one get out of that many blueberry bushes?

I plan to purchase one (1) (single) (solitary) fruit tree to 'get me feet wet'.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 06, 2009, 06:38:04 pm
Went to Wally World and bought a couple of bricks of .22LR - was pleased they had it in stock, though they didn't have much else.  There were two guys behind us in line buying the same thing - 2 bricks each.  The guy right behind us, when he realized what we wanted, said, "Leave some for me."  The pickins are slim out there. 

Started looking at the Emergency Essentials catalog to plan our next round of storage food purchases. 

This weekend, we're (hopefully) going to get some roof repair done to fix a minor leak.  I want our RV and all of our gear up to snuff when the balloon goes up.

Recently made contact with a few people on the Meet-up page from SurvivalBlog.  Since we travel full-time, we don't know where we'll be when all hell breaks loose, so we'd like to have contacts in various parts of the country that we might be able to connect with on short notice.  We'd bring our skills, knowledge, tools, weapons, ammo, supplies, food, seeds, etc., to the party.

If anyone here would like to pursue a conversation on the topic, please PM me.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Fred911 on March 06, 2009, 07:30:42 pm
Bought 10 Oz's of gold today (Maple Leafs).........plan to invest in more Lead (9mm) next week.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: El Topo on March 06, 2009, 07:47:40 pm
Today I saw a pack of 11 lighters for $3, not bad. Bought some stuff for the appleseed this weekend. It's my first so I guess that counts as preparing!

Fred, I have seen a bumber sticker down here that read:  You Deserve What You Tolerate.

Good stuff.

D!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on March 06, 2009, 08:05:07 pm
Filled out an order form from CMP for a Service Grade M1 and four cases of Enbloc ammo.  Gonna take it to a notary tomorrow morning and send it off.  This will actually be the first firearm I ever owned.  (Spent 21 years in the Army firing stuff at your expense though, so not clueless in the rifle department.)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 06, 2009, 09:44:45 pm
Went out to the firing line to do some practicing.  With my broken arm I was a little concerned, but managed to fire off about a dozen rounds from my Nagant M44 without too much pain.  Switched to .22 rifle and pistol after that.  Range was slim pickings... only about 50 rounds of reloadable brass... all pistol.  Plan to go out again Sunday... pick up after the weekenders.  Picked up some aluminum foil, lip balm, and antacids to go in the bug out kit.   Plan to work on the reloading bench tomorrow.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 06, 2009, 11:13:25 pm
Added another shelf to the reloading room. THAT was what it needed. AT LAST all of my reloading stuff is spread out in an accessible, organized fashion. I finally have a reloading room.  I don't want to move again for a long, long time... if ever.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Howard on March 07, 2009, 04:15:19 am
Today I researched rifles for my situation out in the PRK, and decided that the Kel Tec SU-16 isn't as good as the AR-15. P.S., see my help-I need-advice thread on the subject over in the Guns and Gear forum!

/end shameless self promotion
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on March 07, 2009, 04:39:52 am
Got 10cns of "meat"flavored "ghetti" sauce at .31cts a copy. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on March 07, 2009, 09:49:32 am
fixed up my Nephew with a S&W model 422 .22 cal pistol and 200 rounds of Viper hollowpoints.  His first gun, he has skills (mechanical engineer) and will make a good addition to the group by making a contribution and not a burden. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 07, 2009, 03:55:31 pm
Found where to get 55o paracord and 12 gauge flares.
Got info on solar fridge...now gotta talk S/O into one LOL he says a cooler in the creek works great
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Shanks Mare on March 08, 2009, 11:56:28 am
They make 650 cord now.

Purchased a new handgun for my Son (12), he just has to stay on the Honor Roll for the year to get it! ;)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on March 08, 2009, 07:03:08 pm
Purchased a new handgun for my Son (12), he just has to stay on the Honor Roll for the year to get it! ;)
Being about the size of a 12 yr old boy, may I ask what you got for him?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 08, 2009, 08:00:47 pm
Found a great deal on 2500 rounds of .22lr and 100 rounds .40sw.    Took the wife to the range for the first time today.  She really seemed to have fun and was anxious for me to get her rifle ready.  Also stored more food... misc.  Picked up about 75 rounds of brass at the range. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on March 09, 2009, 12:23:47 am
Another 9MM.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 09, 2009, 12:44:25 am
I went shopping for more ammo.

My wife pointed out that if the Midway order doesn't arrive in time, I'd be stuck
with what we have on hand for the Appleseed shoot. So... I counted up what
I actually had on hand, and decided to buy 200 more rounds of .38 Special,
in 125 grain, if possible, to match what I've got more closely.

So we'd heard from a neighbor that the Cabella's is restocked with ammo, so
we went there first.

Their rifle ammo was restocked, but their pistol ammo was very, very thin. I took
the last 3 boxes of .38 Special 158 grain they had in stock. My wife got kind of
nervous when she saw the partly empty shelves, and suggested that we go to
Sportsman's Warehouse and see if they have any .38 Special.

We head into Sportsman's, and I find they HAVE NO .38 SPECIAL or .357 MAG
AT ALL. I asked the guy at the gun counter if he had any in back, and he said that
he didn't have a single round left in the entire store. I pointed out to my wife
that they had even sold out half of their reloading grear floor models, and that
most of the brass was gone.

So she asks me what the heck is going on. I told her it was a combination of
several things: Folks are unsure about the future and  know from Katrina
that they can't count on the government when it really matters, and some
are worried about Obama/Biden/Pelosi et al re-instating the assault weapon ban
without a sunset clause this time. (We had already had a conversation about the
2nd Amendment being about the power of the people to restore the Republic.)

At this point all of the stuff I've been telling her is beginning to hit home. As we're
leaving Sportsman's, she turns and asked me if she's "been had" again. She wanted
to believe in something, and she's afraid that she's been duped by the crowd in DC.

Now... tact is a big part of being a husband, so I told her that Hope was a good
thing, but it would be foolish not to keep our eyes open and be prepared.

Bear




Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on March 09, 2009, 01:25:14 am
Found where to get 55o paracord and 12 gauge flares.
Got info on solar fridge...now gotta talk S/O into one LOL he says a cooler in the creek works great


Ma'aM,I'd only use those flares in a single shot.They are hard on bbls. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 09, 2009, 07:34:40 am
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Ma'aM,I'd only use those flares in a single shot.They are hard on bbls. Ought 7.
Thank you for the advice. Since I was looking for S/O I am sure he knows that...but I will ask.  He is use to me searching everything and coming back and asking more questions.

Found a cheaper place to get sutures. Waiting on payday to order some.
 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on March 09, 2009, 07:56:39 am
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Found a cheaper place to get sutures.

Link?

Encouraged self sufficiency for our Neighbors (ND grafted some pears for a neighbor, helped another put together his first bee hive,  we sold goats, gave a milking lesson to someone different, agreed to take care of a neighbors critters while they leave for a family emergency, used yesterdays close by tornadoes to talk about "what if", passed NAIS information on to those buying milk).

Saturday we walked the property with someone more knowledgeable to figure out solar placing, solar water heating, cistern usage, cost savings on energy usage, etc.  Found out some places we can save money and maybe invest over the next 5 years to become energy independent.

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 09, 2009, 09:34:35 am
Built a wort chiller and boiled it in vinegar in the mineral-stained canning pot I plan to use to make my first batch--tonight, if I can get home from work early enough.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 09, 2009, 10:49:45 am
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Ma'aM,I'd only use those flares in a single shot.They are hard on bbls. Ought 7.
Thank you for the advice. Since I was looking for S/O I am sure he knows that...but I will ask.  He is use to me searching everything and coming back and asking more questions.

Found a cheaper place to get sutures. Waiting on payday to order some.

Firing the flares [meant for boating flare pistols] in your shotgun is not recommended because of the fear that they can get "caught up" at the choke and burn in the barrel ruining the temper of the barrel.
I have never tried this so I cannot say with any expertise that this is true or Bo-o-ogus. [urban legend, etc]

The best tool to use the flares is the cheapo flare pistols made by Olin/Orion (http://www.orionsignals.com/Marine/Products/aerial.html).

I have both the 12 ga and the 25 MM model.
The 12 ga is made of plastic so those flares do not create much back pressure at all.
The 25 mm is made of metal [pot metal] but that does not mean it is safe to fire a shotgun shell in it.
[I am betting the backstrap is nowhere near strong enough to hold the PSI's that a 12 ga shell puts out.]
Olin/Orion makes an adapter that converts the 25 MM to 12 ga but it is made of aluminum.
I had a friend [a machinist] turn me one out of stainless BUT the frame of the gun itself is not strong enough to allow using 12 ga shells in it.
{Side note to the machinists or gunsmiths out there .... how hard would it be to create a "flare pistol" that can withstand the PSI's of a 12 ga shell ? Such a flare pistol Might be a "Best Seller"  er  trade item. For use in "the boat" you know. Like my F-150 "boat". ahem}

OFCOURSEIWOULDNEVERSUGGESTANYTHINGTHATVIOLATESTHELAW   Of Course.

This Might be a subject of inquiry to bring up to the guys over at Box-O-Truth ? [Testing the OTC flare pistol with 12 ga shot shells.]

MEANWHILE .... I would suggest that the boating aerial flares be shot using a flare pistol and shotgun shells be shot using a real shotgun.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 09, 2009, 02:57:01 pm
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Found a cheaper place to get sutures.

Link?
Sorry was getting ready for work and thought about it while pushing feed up ...silly girl LOL

http://www.shopmedvet.com/

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Silk Suture 5-0 NFS-2 12/bx Veterinary Use Only  MV-682  $9.99
Monoject Needles Soft Pack 25x1 1/2 100/bx 25112 $5.95 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 09, 2009, 04:55:18 pm
Great link - Thanks MsSage.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 09, 2009, 08:15:03 pm
500 blueberry plants one year old for $1.10. IF you buy as many as 1000 you can get them for .90 or $1 each.

A full grown blueberry plant can produce as much as 8-10 gallons per plant per year, once they start bearing, the first year or so the output increases by about gallon a year. The biggest effect on how long it takes for them to bear is the size of the plant when purchased/planted. Larger plants are higher in costand bear sooner but you can get more plants if you buy younger ones and I have more time than money.

Why so many? I own a nursery and what I don't sell this season I am gonna plant on my land. I have been doing this for a while now and have a good blueberry grove started. In fact I ordered 200 more 2 year old plants today for $1.60 each. Once I get a few acres planted I hope to open a pick your own blueberry farm that may bring in as much as $5-10 thousand per acre. If TSHTF I have something to barter with, fresh berries.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 09, 2009, 08:30:48 pm
500 blueberry plants one year old for $1.10. IF you buy as many as 1000 you can get them for .90 or $1 each.

A full grown blueberry plant can produce as much as 8-10 gallons per plant per year, once they start bearing, the first year or so the output increases by about gallon a year. The biggest effect on how long it takes for them to bear is the size of the plant when purchased/planted. Larger plants are higher in costand bear sooner but you can get more plants if you buy younger ones and I have more time than money.

Why so many? I own a nursery and what I don't sell this season I am gonna plant on my land. I have been doing this for a while now and have a good blueberry grove started. In fact I ordered 200 more 2 year old plants today for $1.60 each. Once I get a few acres planted I hope to open a pick your own blueberry farm that may bring in as much as $5-10 thousand per acre. If TSHTF I have something to barter with, fresh berries.


Any possibility that those blueberry plants would survive in the so central Texas area ? [around San Antone sorta]
IF so I just might have to do a little importing of fruit stocks to my local area.
I LOVES them blueberries.

And they are supposed to be really good for ya.  Antioxidants or some such.
 
I thought that they were a mostly north country kinda plant. (?)

Oh Well .... yet another reason to give "gifts" to our "Friends".
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 09, 2009, 10:10:13 pm
Soory buy I have no knowledge of the climate in Texas. I do not travel at all. I can but choose not to. Anti-social. I suggest contacting the local nurseries in your area.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 10, 2009, 04:36:19 am
This blueberry bush thread got me thinking:  once the blueberry season starts again here in Michigan I'll buy as many berries as I can, throw them in the dehydrator, seal 'em up and stock the shelves!

What was done today (or yesterday) to prepare - sold ~50 dollars worth of useless junk on ebay, taught my son how to cast (he loves that Lightning McQueen fishing rod!).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on March 10, 2009, 06:13:35 am
I was in the bulk food store and dehydrated blueberries are 29.75 a pound.

needless to stay they stayed at the bulk food store.

I have been considering buying some bushes until I was told they take anywhere from 2 to 4 years to bear fruit.  If we are serious about finding a place with acreage seems a waste to invest in a couple of bushes at about 10 dollars each if they will be left behind.

That old do we get ready here while we look or wait until we are at our final destination. Decisions.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 10, 2009, 11:08:54 am
Bought a few cans of pineapple chunks at a good sale price and dehydrated them.  Will do some berries when they're in season this year.  Planned our next freeze-dried food purchase, but can't place an order until we get to a place where we can receive packages - probably Pahrump in a couple of weeks. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 10, 2009, 12:29:05 pm
Started my first batch of beer last night. Had some minor missteps along the way, but I'm hopeful that it will come out well. It's bubbling away in the basement now.

Also sprouted a cup of wheat, and yesterday put it in the dehydrator to make diastatic malt (http://www.radicalfrugality.info/homemade-diastatic-malt.html). I think I let it sprout a bit too long, but we'll see how it comes out. It sure smelled nice.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 10, 2009, 06:36:35 pm
I hung out on the computer all day but I was working on my new survival-related business.  I manufacture hermetically sealed tubes for burying preparedness items and I found a new retailer online for them.  I've already made use of several of these for hiding a gun & ammo and some gold and silver coins and ingots.  I also made up some short-term survival caches containing food, money, extra socks, a rain poncho, fire-starting materials, etc. All are buried off-site where I can access them in case my home position is compromised. I also asked a friend via email if I could stash some of my stored food at their house. I think we're both on the same page there.  I don't want to keep all my eggs in one basket.  In fact, I plan to bury some foodstuffs too.  If it's buried, they can't rip it off, whether thieves or authorities (there's a difference?).

Yesterday I learned about how useful a survival food cattails are: young seed and pollen heads, shoots, and starchy tubers. I'm anxious to try some this spring/summer.

Oh yes, I also created a survival blog on blogger.com yesterday (http://horizonscanblog.blogspot.com/) and tweaked my business Web site (http://www.preparednessequipment.com).  Does that count?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 10, 2009, 11:47:57 pm
Dehydrated some pineapple, kiwi, and bananas.  Sorted and bagged some 9mm casings.  I'm taking them to a friend who trades me for .22lr rounds.   Need to find a swapper for my .45 acp brass. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 11, 2009, 01:13:08 pm
Bought 2 aloe plants and a "kitchen herb" kit LOL NOW I need help ...I can kill anything green including a viine.I have already killed 2 aloe plants.  I can keep a 99% dead calf alive and bring her back but plants  :angry:
Any tips and helpful hints would be LOVED and I am sure the plants would love you too LOL Yeap the herbs are in seed form  :thrshocker:
Yeap this is my reality check ......I have to be able to grow things ......S/O has a green hand but he cant do everything and me just sit there and look pretty. (I am old and fat and pretty ugly LOL)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on March 11, 2009, 08:23:29 pm
I wish I could send you some good aloe ju-ju(and some aloes). I had one in a pot and ended up with about 40 in the pot. So I repotted the 3 largest mother plants and gave away all the babies. Now I have 3 pots with about 40 in each of them.  My advice would be to somewhat ignore them. Filtered light and don't over water.  I know absolutely nothing about herbs, so my expertise is exhausted, but if it's a kit it should have directions.  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BeenAround on March 12, 2009, 12:02:19 am
Bought some new water filters,rice,black beans,and 2 boxes(15 rds)00 buckshot.Wally only had 4 boxes.NO .38 spl no .22 4 boxes .45 and .40 some 30-30and a mix of others.Is it just me or does Wally world set the ammo so far back you can't read what they have?Plenty of turkey and small game ammo.And a neat little key chain funnel for my oil lamp.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on March 12, 2009, 12:26:28 am
Wiped out the seed section at Ace Hardware 20 cents a packet. Now if It will just rain somemore I wont have to worry about watering the garden.

MsSage How did you kill an aloe Plant ?  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 12, 2009, 07:56:48 am
Started my second attempt at a 100% wheat flour bread. I'll report on it in the appropriate sub-forum so we can dissect the abysmal failure (or, just maybe, rejoice in the delicious success).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 12, 2009, 09:46:18 am
500 blueberry plants one year old for $1.10. IF you buy as many as 1000 you can get them for .90 or $1 each.

A full grown blueberry plant can produce as much as 8-10 gallons per plant per year, once they start bearing, the first year or so the output increases by about gallon a year. The biggest effect on how long it takes for them to bear is the size of the plant when purchased/planted. Larger plants are higher in costand bear sooner but you can get more plants if you buy younger ones and I have more time than money.

Why so many? I own a nursery and what I don't sell this season I am gonna plant on my land. I have been doing this for a while now and have a good blueberry grove started. In fact I ordered 200 more 2 year old plants today for $1.60 each. Once I get a few acres planted I hope to open a pick your own blueberry farm that may bring in as much as $5-10 thousand per acre. If TSHTF I have something to barter with, fresh berries.


Thanks for the information.  I think you should do a much bigger write up on your whole business especially since you have more time than money.  hehe.  I will have to keep you in mind and ask many questions when i get the time to plant on some land.  I was wondering if you can ship the 1 or 2 year plants cause i can't remember if i've ever seen blueberry plants around here to buy.  I live in Colorado so i figure there has to be some around somewhere.  BTW I love you pick your own blueberry idea and you should definately try that or sell the blue berries outright and make tons of jelly. 

Dang, now i'm hungry.

Myself, i'm preparing for the eventual move to the country cause i bought some chicks yesterday and this weekend i will start building the coop.  One thing that was very unexpected is that one of my chihuahua's fell in love with the chicks from first peep.  Even though she has never and can never have a litter she thinks they are hers.  She is literally throwing a fit and is crying at the door.  Once in she want to be picked up so she can look at them.  She will only quit whining if we let her look or pick one up for her to see.  I know she'd hurt them if we let them run around and i can't take that chance.  So the wife and I didn't get much sleep last night with a pacing and whining dog.  I will try to post a link or pics when i can.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jimp220 on March 12, 2009, 11:44:46 am
sometimes dogs and cats will adopt chicks and watch over them like a shepard, what a coincidence.  Keep a close eye on the dog and let her interact with the chicks, maybe she will be their guardian.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 12, 2009, 11:57:42 am
That is the hope that she will watch over them.  I just never seen her act this way in her entire 3 years.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 12, 2009, 09:31:19 pm
The sad, bad news was that cost-benefit and available-income analysis determined we can't establish a garden at our new rental property. Unable to come up with the cash to haul in compost, spread, cultivate and plant enough to recoup our investment this year, let alone getting the chicks and feed for our multi-colored egg production project. Recognizing the garden was merely break-even in the current year wouldn't have stopped me by itself, but the harsh reality that I could afford the seeds, but not the soil was a real stopper.

That mini-tragedy has finally been accepted... almost.  But the creative mind won't let go until the time to plant is fully past. 

This morning, The Fertile Mind of SlideManSailor (as Mogomba Guru would say: TFMSMS) conjured up a BREAKTHROUGH!!! 
* SHAZAM *
Another piece out of my dusty old brain clicked into place: "Subscription Farming".  In my version, 6 trusted friends contribute $150 each while the Mrs and I contribute land, tools, know-how, electricity, water, money already spent and the lion's share of the work. The $900 covers the cash-requiring inputs to get the Easter Egg Chicken Ranch, or Liberty Garden installed at the right time. 

I thunk a bit, then called a good friend who, while helping me unload U-Haul's largest 8 months ago, had ruminated about this place being a good location for some kind of community farming project for those who have no gardening space, tools or expertise.  If only a couple of Libertarians could figure out how to make it work. 

As of this moment, He, his wife, and his two kids who are grown and on their own have committed to the first 4 subscriptions.  I am confident the remaining two subscriptions will be sold soon, though my next-choice pigeons, I mean friends, are too sick to think at all today.  The folks I have recruited are PARTICIPANTS.  That is, they will be here helping us putter in the garden, which will make it all the better in several ways.

Win-win-win and a bit more food security to boot. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on March 13, 2009, 12:31:34 am
That is one helluva Idea SMS. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bennie on March 13, 2009, 03:42:46 am

Any possibility that those blueberry plants would survive in the so central Texas area ? [around San Antone sorta]
IF so I just might have to do a little importing of fruit stocks to my local area.
I LOVES them blueberries.

And they are supposed to be really good for ya.  Antioxidants or some such.
 
I thought that they were a mostly north country kinda plant. (?)

Oh Well .... yet another reason to give "gifts" to our "Friends".
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All my time living in south Texas and I never heard of blueberries growing there. I always thought of them as a northern thing. Then I moved to east Texas and was surprised to find blueberries are a big deal in some of these towns like Nacogdoches. Annual festivals, locally sold in markets, U-Pickm farms, etc. Me and my nicer half sure like them. Antioxidents, yes. But also good for an old man's guts (she don't need them  for that she's young).

But as far as growing them in your area, I don't know. One can drive 4-5 hours, between here and there, and go from piney woods, to savanna, to desert pretty quick. Big climate change in a short distance.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 13, 2009, 07:35:22 am

Any possibility that those blueberry plants would survive in the so central Texas area ? [around San Antone sorta]
IF so I just might have to do a little importing of fruit stocks to my local area.
I LOVES them blueberries.

And they are supposed to be really good for ya.  Antioxidants or some such.
 
I thought that they were a mostly north country kinda plant. (?)

Oh Well .... yet another reason to give "gifts" to our "Friends".
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All my time living in south Texas and I never heard of blueberries growing there. I always thought of them as a northern thing. Then I moved to east Texas and was surprised to find blueberries are a big deal in some of these towns like Nacogdoches. Annual festivals, locally sold in markets, U-Pickm farms, etc. Me and my nicer half sure like them. Antioxidents, yes. But also good for an old man's guts (she don't need them  for that she's young).

But as far as growing them in your area, I don't know. One can drive 4-5 hours, between here and there, and go from piney woods, to savanna, to desert pretty quick. Big climate change in a short distance.


I believe the issue is ph. Blueberries are an acid loving plant. I believe that san antonio and most areas east of ±Houston are ph+7 with pockets varying. You can build a bed which is how people grow azaleas in such areas but you have to constantly acidify with sulfur or other such additives. What is often overlooked is that the ground water is generally high ph in these areas and consequently, you are consistently raising the ph as you water. Dew berries and mustang grapes will do well and are easy and tolerant of these conditions. There may be others as well but haven't checked them out.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on March 13, 2009, 08:11:50 am
You can also use whey (if you are making cheese) to raise the acidity in the soil. Water with the whey. (3 gallons milk produces 3# hard cheese and a bit over 2 gallons of whey). mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 13, 2009, 11:48:36 pm
I sold $560 woth of useless stuff. Using the money to pay off debt. I got the wife on the same page now about getting out of debt ASAP. WE open for the season Monday. It is gonna be a busy year for the nursery business. I am thinking about having an auction to move a bunch of stuff at one time. There are a few auction houses in our area. I am also thinking about taking a truck load to each one of them and letting them liquidate the stuff for me. I have WAY to much stuff for a simple yardsale. There is also a flea market in the area where I can sale a few hundred dollars worth each week. Either way I am going to get rid of all the crap we have collected for the last 20 years that we do not need.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 14, 2009, 06:13:44 am
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MsSage How did you kill an aloe Plant ? 
Hmmmm well first I live in the NW panhandle of texas.... I am as far NW and still be in Texas LOL its DRY very very dry here and I only watered it about
once a week. Heck I dont know LOL I do know the others died from lack of water so I am being very good about spraying the seeds I have planted every day. I will let yall know if I have any sprouts in 8 more days LOL

S/O got 500 rounds of .357 shells. Sorry cant remember the price BUT it was very good.
 Men......asked me if it was a good price then had to ask his Dad then a friend who is of like mind and when they both said the same thing I did he says he should have gotten the other 9 boxes  :shakehead: ssshhh dont tell ...I Told ya so  LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 14, 2009, 08:12:26 am
You can also use whey (if you are making cheese) to raise the acidity in the soil. Water with the whey. (3 gallons milk produces 3# hard cheese and a bit over 2 gallons of whey). mutti

My point was that you can grow blueberries in SA, but, the cost is constant maintenance of ph. Even with whey if you had it, the water you need every day will have a high ph partially offsetting the acidification. May be worth it but buyer beware.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 14, 2009, 06:11:54 pm
Built a rolling "A" frame on the deck to expand the growing space available. Garden is the yard is as big as it can be.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 14, 2009, 07:27:35 pm
You can also use whey (if you are making cheese) to raise the acidity in the soil. Water with the whey. (3 gallons milk produces 3# hard cheese and a bit over 2 gallons of whey). mutti

My point was that you can grow blueberries in SA, but, the cost is constant maintenance of ph. Even with whey if you had it, the water you need every day will have a high ph partially offsetting the acidification. May be worth it but buyer beware.

If you are watering with collected rain water, would this make them more feasible?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 14, 2009, 09:20:21 pm
We use pine bark as a soil conditioner to control the PH. It is the same potting medium that we pot the liners into when we get them into the nursery. Buy the finest pine bark you can and till it into your soil or ammend the soil around your blueberries and the problem of soil PH is solved.

Today, I sold $400 more dollars worth of stuff I have collected over the years. I am serious about liquidating all these needless possesions. When TSHTF what good will they be?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 15, 2009, 05:14:56 pm
Went shooting... realized that the new Sig 40 didn't need the sights adjusted... just the shooter.  Much better target cluster... 8" cluster at 50'.   Not so good for some... but better for me.  Put a sight and adjusted it on my .33 winchester.  Picked up about 200 rounds of reloadable brass at the range. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 15, 2009, 05:53:09 pm
designed and built a gas adjustment system for my pair of MAS 49/56's(converted to .308)..........

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 15, 2009, 08:07:15 pm
S/o ordered the barrels for 2 50 cal. His friend is going to build them..one for each. They already have the ammo well some ammo LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on March 15, 2009, 09:20:27 pm
Slaughtered feeder steer, moved 300+ strawberries (gave an additional 40 or so to neighbors), ND air-layered some hardy citrus, RabbleRoused by providing NAIS documentation to a major mag, inventoried stores (a bit light on rice & oats) - not much else  :rolleyes:. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 15, 2009, 10:41:19 pm
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S/o ordered the barrels for 2 50 cal. His friend is going to build them..one for each.

Tell S/O that he has to actually help build those rifles or his friend automagically becomes (insert scarey music here) an unliscenced manufacturer.....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 15, 2009, 11:03:02 pm
Really couldn't afford it, but ordered Lee reloading kit, plus dies, plus tumbler.   Have to get started somewhere.  Figure this will get me going, and I can add to it as I can afford it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 16, 2009, 05:59:59 am
Sold 2 fillies, aerated 3 paddocks, hand sprayed thistle.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 16, 2009, 06:02:39 am
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Tell S/O that he has to actually help build those rifles or his friend automagically becomes (insert scarey music here) an unliscenced manufacturer.....
Gotta LVOE Government  :rolleyes:
Kinda hard for him to help but maybe something could be done.
As if I dont have enough to do LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 16, 2009, 11:05:11 am
I hung out on the computer all day but I was working on my new survival-related business.  I manufacture hermetically sealed tubes for burying preparedness items and I found a new retailer online for them.  I've already made use of several of these for hiding a gun & ammo and some gold and silver coins and ingots.  I also made up some short-term survival caches containing food, money, extra socks, a rain poncho, fire-starting materials, etc. All are buried off-site where I can access them in case my home position is compromised. I also asked a friend via email if I could stash some of my stored food at their house. I think we're both on the same page there.  I don't want to keep all my eggs in one basket.  In fact, I plan to bury some foodstuffs too.  If it's buried, they can't rip it off, whether thieves or authorities (there's a difference?).

Yesterday I learned about how useful a survival food cattails are: young seed and pollen heads, shoots, and starchy tubers. I'm anxious to try some this spring/summer.

Oh yes, I also created a survival blog on blogger.com yesterday (http://horizonscanblog.blogspot.com/) and tweaked my business Web site (http://www.preparednessequipment.com).  Does that count?


Sir, i couldn't help but notice that your bury em tubes found at the above mentioned link bear a striking resemblance to those found at Safecastle.
http://safecastleroyal.com/category_72/Bury-Em-Tubes.html

Whats up with that?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 16, 2009, 07:23:01 pm
designed and built a gas adjustment system for my pair of MAS 49/56's(converted to .308)..........



No photos ?  We're just supposed to "visualize" your handiwork ?  ahem ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 16, 2009, 08:04:47 pm
No Gooch...............I ain't posting photos of my ideas brought into physical form no more...........
The last time the IP thing went round and round sealed that deal for me.................


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 16, 2009, 08:07:10 pm
No Gooch...............I ain't posting photos of my ideas brought into physical form no more...........
The last time the IP thing went round and round sealed that deal for me.................




As you wish ....

forgive my intrusive curiosity.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on March 16, 2009, 10:45:04 pm


Spent days reprogramming two bearcats, my goodness with "rebanding" and digital capabilities as well as older still in use networks, that is no small thing.

Looked into taking Ham courses online.

Trimmed back the local blackberry bushes, last year's crop was remarkably bitter and hopefully that will help them.

Set the water barrels into place for the Herb Garden.

Cleaned up the local woodline.

Cleared a nice trail to take walks on, thorns thorns thorns, so now an egress has been made to come and go discretely.

I still need to inventory and work on some marksmanship with the chicom pellet rifle, at this point the broadside of a barn is quite safe.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 16, 2009, 10:53:47 pm
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work on some marksmanship with the chicom pellet rifle, at this point the broadside of a barn is quite safe.

Hey..........I've got one of those...........is yours the break-barrel style or the side/under lever style?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on March 16, 2009, 11:12:53 pm
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work on some marksmanship with the chicom pellet rifle, at this point the broadside of a barn is quite safe.

Hey..........I've got one of those...........is yours the break-barrel style or the side/under lever style?


Break barrel, it's reliable but not very accurate...could be user error though... :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 16, 2009, 11:14:30 pm
Sir, i couldn't help but notice that your bury em tubes found at the above mentioned link bear a striking resemblance to those found at Safecastle.
http://safecastleroyal.com/category_72/Bury-Em-Tubes.html

Whats up with that?


Ha, ha!  I'm proud to say that Safecastle is a new retailer for me. Of course they seriously undercut my retail price with their 20% member discount so you will want to get yours from Safecastle.   I also wholesale to brick & mortar stores. 

New accessory product I'm developing: stealth shields for BURY 'EM! tubes to foil discovery by metal detector.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 17, 2009, 07:34:11 am
I have sprouts .......in my kitchen herbs LOL
When I get home I will find when I have to transplant to bigger containers and how big of a container.
I guess I am not as bad at growing as I thought LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 17, 2009, 10:21:22 am
Well, last night the wife and I had our first canning experience as adults.  We made strawberry preserves and apple butter.  Both taste very good and we know all the ingredients that are in the jar.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 17, 2009, 03:18:31 pm
Lost a goat to the coyotes. Sat up till 3:00 AM last night trying to shoot him/them. No luck. Working on options including snares, Pyrenees and Donkeys. Each has their strengths and weaknesses.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on March 17, 2009, 03:31:14 pm
Lost a goat to the coyotes. Sat up till 3:00 AM last night trying to shoot him/them. No luck. Working on options including snares, Pyrenees and Donkeys. Each has their strengths and weaknesses.



Aren't Llama's supposed to be the medicine for coyotes or wolves?

The four legged kind or the .45 cal kind, both would work.

Alas, my move got crushed today, I was clearing some brush from a thicket behind ye olde casa, and found out the people I thought owned it, do not, and had some 'splainin to do.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 17, 2009, 05:29:25 pm
HELP I have the herb planter kinda like the strawberry planter and I know I have to move my herbs to a better pot but what type and when? I have searched but I think they assume you will either get plants already started or use the seedling trays........OK I was excited and wanted to start growing them  :rolleyes: And the package said to grow them in the planter that came with the seeds......
S/O was not impressed said ok, the hard part is keeping them alive......told me he will get me my own FFA jacket even with my name on it once I can harvest them   :rolleyes: men
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 17, 2009, 07:31:33 pm
Lost a goat to the coyotes. Sat up till 3:00 AM last night trying to shoot him/them. No luck. Working on options including snares, Pyrenees and Donkeys. Each has their strengths and weaknesses.



A stout barn for them to sleep in is the least expensive and longest lasting goat protection device.  This requires that you or someone else spread some fresh hay out for them nightly to get them in the come-home-to-sleep-mode.
Mutti would be the best to answer current goat enticement tricks questions.

Pyrenees or Shepards either will work BUT you would need a mature, already trained to goats, adult dog and a yearling pup to really get rapid results.

IF I had the situation you describe I would do both barn [really just a quick and dirty shed would do] and a [borrowed ?] shepard with My shepard pup doing the learning. (?)

[TIP: The First one is free ....  :rolleyes:  tip = save your urine in a can and sprinkle it around the "barn" and along your fence lines. It doesn't take much.  You are marking YOUR Territory in a manner they {the coyotes} can read and understand easily.]
After doing so any coyote shot or caught should be disposed of by literally shredding the carcass and spreading it along your fence lines.
[in very small pieces, think ground burger sized pieces. Too big of pieces will only be a food source to them.] 
This is mother nature's version of "YOU might be Next 'coyote' so stay away."
And is very similar to the miles of crosses used by the Romans.
This scattered pieces method is not recommended in suburban or semi-rural areas. 
Most humans have forgotten mother nature's language.
Strangely they also have lost most of their sense of humor.  Coincidence ?

OR ... If you have the time and wherewithal invite the neighbors over for a coyote discouragement party.  The hides will make mittens and caps after you de-flea them. [deep freezing the hide is easiest]  Late fall or early winter is best for the hides. The hair sticks better then.

OR
Put up a locals only bounty at $20 per FRESH coyote hide. [This method would require an ability to actually have access to frn's  which leaves ME out ....  :rolleyes: ]

OR
Depending on your relationship with the local game warden  [HINT= show him the destroyed carcass of your goat.] you could ask IF he has any eradication Tools at his disposal. [Why else would you pay his wages allow his wages to be stolen from your income ?]
Also you might want to check the "limit" on coyotes before hand and IF there is a limit get a signed note from each bounty hunter so that YOU don't get hit with over limit charges.
"I bought these hides awfulsir I didn't shoot them myself. See my receipts ?"
 
"I would Never hurt Mother Nature's tender creatures."
[Raised right hand is traditional, with crossed fingers is optional]
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 17, 2009, 07:42:47 pm
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After doing so any coyote shot or caught should be disposed of by literally shredding the carcass and spreading it along your fence lines.
[in very small pieces, think ground burger sized pieces. Too big of pieces will only be a food source to them.] 
This is mother nature's version of "YOU might be Next 'coyote' so stay away."

Someone once said that the best "No Tresspassing" sign out there are the heads of your enemies on your fence posts....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 17, 2009, 08:18:16 pm
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After doing so any coyote shot or caught should be disposed of by literally shredding the carcass and spreading it along your fence lines.
[in very small pieces, think ground burger sized pieces. Too big of pieces will only be a food source to them.] 
This is mother nature's version of "YOU might be Next 'coyote' so stay away."

Someone once said that the best "No Tresspassing" sign out there are the heads of your enemies on your fence posts....

Wasn't his name .... Vlad  ?

Vlad the Impaler.
AKA Count Dra-cula

But he used the entire bodies IIRC.

Either way it is a very effective and noticeable technique.
I mean it's pretty hard to miss the smell and the umpteen million flies buzzing around right ?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 17, 2009, 08:58:54 pm
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After doing so any coyote shot or caught should be disposed of by literally shredding the carcass and spreading it along your fence lines.
[in very small pieces, think ground burger sized pieces. Too big of pieces will only be a food source to them.] 
This is mother nature's version of "YOU might be Next 'coyote' so stay away."

Someone once said that the best "No Tresspassing" sign out there are the heads of your enemies on your fence posts....

Wasn't his name .... Vlad  ?

Vlad the Impaler.
AKA Count Dra-cula

But he used the entire bodies IIRC.

Either way it is a very effective and noticeable technique.
I mean it's pretty hard to miss the smell and the umpteen million flies buzzing around right ?

Ya Vlad was really into the slow impalement thing.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on March 17, 2009, 09:48:42 pm
Some states still PAY bounties on cyotes.  I believe ND does.  Worth checking.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 17, 2009, 10:04:33 pm
Many great thoughts. I have a plan, being a planner that is essential. It is my fault that this wasn't solved earlier, I knew it was a problem and delayed action because of differences with the Mrs. on predator control. Now all options are on the table but at the cost of a little one's loss. Not a very good shepherd am I. We've looked ay Llamas, Jennys and Jacks. We have to get value out of all of the eaters to make this deal work. A Jack or a Jenny is our preference because it doesn't create an additional food/vetting regimen and the donkey can halter break colts.

Halter training colts with a donkey from Hilldale Frams website:

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Actual halter breaking is Day One of our three-day program. At Hilldale Farm, we "donkey break" all our foals. This has been our method of choice for years and so far, we haven't experienced a single injury. We like the results and love the savings of time and human labor.

Our necking donkey, Jack, is a gelded male donkey that weighs about 800 pounds. We bring Jack to the indoor arena, attach the neck rope and then go for the foal. We basically drive the foal down the barn aisle, but I have a hold on the lead rope. Two people can usually make the connection, but a third comes in handy to get the foal close enough to Jack to snap the lead rope already attached to Jack's neck rope to the foals halter. Once attached to the 18 inch lead, the pair are simply herded to the nearest paddock.

Scientific neglect is now the order of the day. We go back to riding horses, but are able to observe the lesson. Occasionally a foal will get a foreleg over the lead rope and will need assistance. Usually, we just observe with amusement how an impatient and sometimes angry foal learns to accept "donkey tenacity."

Jack understands his job. He will stand patiently during his students first tantrums, and then soften up the foal by turning in both directions. When Jack is ready to travel to the hay rack or water tank, he will go there regardless. He will show more patience than the most famous and expensive human round pen clinician, but there are limits. If the student gets too rambunctious, Jack will provide discipline with a little kick. Because they are tied so close, he will only hit him with his hocks, but he will make his point. Watching this process is not only entertaining, but kind of an I.Q. test for the foals. I've learned not to be too concerned about how much they fight at first, but rather to evaluate the foal by how soon I see slack in the rope. The best ones seem to figure it out within ten minutes.

http://hilldalefarm.com/reading/3days.htm

This approach gives the Jack "a job" and saves us time and money.

Months ago, I decided I needed to be able to "hunt at night". My strategy was/is that while I may not be able to out man them, I think I can out strategize them. I have invested in a nightscope, gen 1, and will work on 4 legged predators to develop the skills. We have hogs, raccoons, coyotes and bobcats. Simo Häyhä and Carlos Hathcock II and others have inspired me to think of ways to leverage surprise. I have no delusions about attaining the level of accomplishments of these brave men. Their skills trumped their enemies' counter attacks and in that dynamic there are lessons to be learned.

I agree with hanging the corpses of predators. Their kin/pack "sense" the conditions and retreat to easier pickings. So it is. Any coyote or bobcat will be hung at the gate for their kin and 2 legged wannabes to know that predators will be killed. I prefer this to the shred and spread approach suggested here. Wet the breach point with blood and entrails and those that hope to follow will be warned.

This is a battle wherein exerting the higher pressure moves the undesirable away, perhaps to a neighbors or perhaps to a grave. If enough push, the predator moves to another community or another country or just dies off to an insignificant population, like rats.



Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 17, 2009, 10:15:38 pm
Up state where we have our Bear camp the local wardens like to stop by the weekend before to let us in on the latest sightings. (one of them is the camp owners cousin)  4 years ago we were advised to shoot any coyotes we see on sight. As there is no closed season on them here and no limit you just have to be legal as far as spot lights and having a valid hunting tag. Anyway there is a big problem with the coyotes killing stock and deer. the farmer closest to us had a calf taken right from the barn yard.

So we have shot 3 just while hunting and the farmer is question asked us to help him set up an ambush this season. He staked a sheep out about 100 yds from the barn in a field. Scared and lonely sheep are loud i found out. So 2 nights running we took turns standing watch with a night scope and a spot light. on the second night at around 3:30 the guys on duty saw 4 coyotes heading for the sheep. The farmer, who was on rotation at the time, shone the spot light and the two guys from camp opened up. they killed 2 and wounded one. so far the farmer hasn't had any more problems.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: fred.greek on March 18, 2009, 12:19:56 am
I've started "burning" CD's with my collected notes, and selected downloaded publications, to pass out to friends... 

It seems that those who have heard, and laughed, at "Dr. Doom" for these past few years, are now approaching and asking what they should do...

In the past, I've tried sending them web links, but they just didn't seem to find the time to go do their own downloading...  I tried really tiny printing, and really brief summaries, but there wasn't enough information to get people moving, or provide much guidance/information if they decided to move...

I admit, I am greedy, and self-serving... I am convinced that it is in my best interest, and that of my child, that as many of my friends and neighbors as possible are as prepared as possible to deal with temporary crisis, and permanent paradigm change in how we live.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 18, 2009, 03:38:22 pm
Our new babies.  5 yellow girls and a boy.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on March 18, 2009, 04:51:19 pm
I've started "burning" CD's with my collected notes, and selected downloaded publications, to pass out to friends... 

It seems that those who have heard, and laughed, at "Dr. Doom" for these past few years, are now approaching and asking what they should do...

In the past, I've tried sending them web links, but they just didn't seem to find the time to go do their own downloading...  I tried really tiny printing, and really brief summaries, but there wasn't enough information to get people moving, or provide much guidance/information if they decided to move...

I admit, I am greedy, and self-serving... I am convinced that it is in my best interest, and that of my child, that as many of my friends and neighbors as possible are as prepared as possible to deal with temporary crisis, and permanent paradigm change in how we live.




That is a fantastic idea, I think I'll put a couple together with stuff like military manuals and radio programming programs.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 18, 2009, 05:29:09 pm
I've started "burning" CD's with my collected notes, and selected downloaded publications, to pass out to friends... 

It seems that those who have heard, and laughed, at "Dr. Doom" for these past few years, are now approaching and asking what they should do...

In the past, I've tried sending them web links, but they just didn't seem to find the time to go do their own downloading...  I tried really tiny printing, and really brief summaries, but there wasn't enough information to get people moving, or provide much guidance/information if they decided to move...

I admit, I am greedy, and self-serving... I am convinced that it is in my best interest, and that of my child, that as many of my friends and neighbors as possible are as prepared as possible to deal with temporary crisis, and permanent paradigm change in how we live.




Fred:

Unless I have missed something, I see nothing selfish in what you are doing. It seems you are only promoting your views supported by what you believe to be facts. Whether the intent is to protect yourself through helping protect others or whether you intend to lighten your own load by helping others be self sufficient it appears that you/they win. Those impacts will spill over into other rings of people as more see the situation as being dire.

One likely effect is that these actions will trigger similar other actions by others whose "wave action" will uplift your own. In my own way, I am trying this as well. Three years ago, I was with a Client in San Francisco and walking to our meeting I had a brief talk about the problems with the Federal Reserve and our toilet paper money. I tried to explain what the FRB was, and what it wasn't. There was modest interest and they were polite.

This morning I get an email with a link to a James Quinn "Financial Sense" article titled, "GRAND ILLUSION – THE FEDERAL RESERVE".

http://financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0311.html

He was shocked to read in detail the "reality" of the FRB. He used the words "scam" and "worthless money". He feels betrayed and screwed by the FRB and Guv. It took 3 years for that conversation to come back to me but come back it did.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on March 19, 2009, 02:21:25 am
Gave another neighbor an avocado bush I grew from the store bought avocados.  I have some tomatoes doing pretty good too.  I got my first carrot, bean, and turnip "crops" in.  These window planter garden thingamabobs are going to save me some $$$!  I am getting just about as many veggies as I can eat out of a 2' by 8' planter I have on my porch- encouraging.   I think I am going for broccoli and cauliflower for the next batch.   This is catching some folks attention, people here are all looking for ways to save on the groceries.  That is how I am presenting it, "I figured I would see if I could grow something useful in these flwerpots this year"........

I think if some know how to grow their own, I will have fewer to worry about when the time comes..........
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 19, 2009, 05:00:50 am
I got my first carrot, bean, and turnip "crops" in.  These window planter garden thingamabobs are going to save me some $$$!  I am getting just about as many veggies as I can eat out of a 2' by 8' planter I have on my porch- encouraging.   I think I am going for broccoli and cauliflower for the next batch.

Gaaah!  This Michigan winter is killing me!  We're supposed to get down into the teens tonight.  I'm about ready to turn my back porch into a green house.  Then again, my wife would probably call in the men with the white coats to haul me away...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 19, 2009, 06:21:01 am
For some this will not be preparing but for me it was. The freezer part of my Fridge stop working. Well the whole thing is slowly dying. I only go into it about 2-3 days so I didnt notice untill everything had completly thawed. I spent yesterday throwing out about $200 worth of meat.  Yeap I cried and S/o over the phone kept trying to make me laugh , he did a good job.
Even being upset I was filled with a knowledge that it was for a reason and I had a plan if I was to be without a fridge for a couple days. 
I know I can adjust and adapt and I will be OK.
I know I am nowhere near ready for tshtf but I am making progress and the planning and getting the mind set is paying off.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on March 19, 2009, 08:16:45 am
We all think about the big TSHTF, but little splats also are minimized by preparedness too.  The little ones are also oppurtunities to learn details for the big one.   Excellent point.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on March 19, 2009, 09:27:02 am
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I spent yesterday throwing out about $200 worth of meat.

Oh no! If this happens in the future and you catch it a little earlier - Can the meat in chunks if you are able.
Mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on March 19, 2009, 10:53:36 am
We all think about the big TSHTF, but little splats also are minimized by preparedness too.  The little ones are also oppurtunities to learn details for the big one.   Excellent point.

Exactly.  I experienced a power outage a few months ago and realized that all three of my flashlights either had burnt out bulbs or dead batteries.  I now have extra bulbs, plenty of batteries, even one of those fancy Faraday flashlights that don't require batteries.  (it helps that my son loves to shake the thing and keep it fully charged) ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 19, 2009, 12:33:41 pm
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The freezer part of my Fridge stop working.

Are you saying the the fridge part still works? If so you probably just have a clog somewhere. I say this because all the cold air for your fridge/freezer is made in the freezer and a fan moves it to the fridge part. so if you have cold air the freezer still is working. please tell me exactly what it is doing and maybe i can help save the unit.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 19, 2009, 12:58:49 pm
Researching "Chicken Pluckers". They seem to "range" from the sublime to the ridiculous. Does anyone have any direct experience with affordable "pluckers"

http://www.schweisswelding.com/sections/chicken_pluckers.php

http://www.cumberlandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=26

http://www.knasecoinc.com/pickers.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on March 19, 2009, 02:02:27 pm
Easy as heck Hollywood.  Get one of those turkey cookers that you deep fry them in but instead of oil use parafin wax.  Once heated all you have to do is dip the DEAD chicken/turkey in it then put into cold water.  All you have left to do is pull the feathers off in sheets.  I recommend having enough chickens/turkey/duck to make it worth your time.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 19, 2009, 02:45:36 pm
Easy as heck Hollywood.  Get one of those turkey cookers that you deep fry them in but instead of oil use parafin wax.  Once heated all you have to do is dip the DEAD chicken/turkey in it then put into cold water.  All you have left to do is pull the feathers off in sheets.  I recommend having enough chickens/turkey/duck to make it worth your time.

Shepherd:

Thanks for the idea. If you happen to know, how much paraffin is consumed per bird assuming an average weight of 3.5#/bird? The cost appears to be about $1.3-1.50/lb. That would add, assuming it is non-recoverable, some cost to the bird above labor, mechanical and fuel. May be worth it I do not have the experience to know what the loss per bird would be.

Thanks

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 19, 2009, 07:41:35 pm
I was hoping it was only the freezer but the fridge part is not cooling either. I get to wait till Mon for the service guy to come out. Since I rent I really cant work on anything ...as if I would know LOL Thanks for trying.
I am really keeping a good attitude and looking forward to this test.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 19, 2009, 07:59:28 pm
Bought 7 tame blackberry plants. Released 18,000 ladybugs into greenhouses as an organic control measure for aphids and white flys. We are trying to live without pesticides. Checked on some goats. They run between $1.40 and $1.00 a pound, depending on the age. If I want them registered I have to pay a little more.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 19, 2009, 09:15:51 pm
Took my boy out to the shooting range ... he did pretty well.  Picked up about 400 rounds of reloadable brass.  Deprimed the above brass.  Set up a good reloading table and actually got organized.  Found a buyer for my .38 special brass.

Put all the seedlings outside into the hotbox.  Started a new location for the compost pile.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 19, 2009, 09:24:27 pm
I was hoping it was only the freezer but the fridge part is not cooling either. I get to wait till Mon for the service guy to come out. Since I rent I really cant work on anything ...as if I would know LOL Thanks for trying.
I am really keeping a good attitude and looking forward to this test.

Well as long as you aren't paying for it. Sometime what happens is the little defrost drain in the back of the freezer (under the plastic sheet that is the "floor" of the freezer) gets a pea or other small item stuck in it. When the freezer defrosts the water has nowhere to go. After the defrost cycle all the water in the bottom of the freezer, where the coils are, freezes solid. Bingo no cold air circulation. Thought thats what it might be.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 19, 2009, 11:33:32 pm
This morning I placed an order for heirloom seeds.  When they arrive I will pick up a load of little peat pots for starting sets.  I also finished one prototype stealth shield for hiding buried metal from metal detectors.  I may be able to have a different approach ready by next week.  Then I will test both types
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 20, 2009, 01:04:48 am
I admitted to myself that I really don't want to give up savoring a couple of cups of coffee every day.  So I went to Sweet Marias (http://www.sweetmarias.com/) and ordered a coffee roaster + 8-pound green bean sampler.

This will cost about the same as I would have spent on fresh roasted half-caff from Montana Coffee Traders (http://www.coffeetraders.com/world_of_coffee.cfm) over the next 5 months. It will probably last me about as long. BUT I can now order green beans at a much lower cost and store them for a very long time AND have REALLY FRESH roasted coffee. I became kinda spoiled by fresh every month. Now I will get really spoiled by really, really fresh every few days.  I'm torn... is the greatest benefit the freshness or that I can have a year's supply of green beans and still have fresh coffee all the time?

*next topic*

Thanks to the wonder of the Internet, I tracked down the guy I used to get compost from at a very attractive price. He is still willing to sell me a truckload.  THE GARDEN is on track and well within budget.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: vanderosa on March 20, 2009, 07:52:21 am
MsSage, From what your describing about your refrig, it seems that the defrost heater is not working. Frost will build up on the evaperator coil in the freezer if the defrost circuit does not keep it clean. A good sign that this is happening is there will be frost on the back panel (SXS)  or floor ( TOP MOUNT)of the freezer.
      You can manually defrost it by unplugging it and using a hair dryer to melt the frost. Once the frost is gone, the fan inside the freezer should be able to circulate the cold air . OBTW make sure the fan is working-no fan no air flow.  Do not try to speed up defrost by using a knife or other sharp obect to remove frost. If you poke a hole in the evap coil it will loose freon charge causing more expensive repair.   Hope this helps. Respond if you have questions
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 20, 2009, 08:21:44 am
I admitted to myself that I really don't want to give up savoring a couple of cups of coffee every day.  So I went to Sweet Marias (http://www.sweetmarias.com/) and ordered a coffee roaster + 8-pound green bean sampler.

This will cost about the same as I would have spent on fresh roasted half-caff from Montana Coffee Traders (http://www.coffeetraders.com/world_of_coffee.cfm) over the next 5 months. It will probably last me about as long. BUT I can now order green beans at a much lower cost and store them for a very long time AND have REALLY FRESH roasted coffee. I became kinda spoiled by fresh every month. Now I will get really spoiled by really, really fresh every few days.  I'm torn... is the greatest benefit the freshness or that I can have a year's supply of green beans and still have fresh coffee all the time?

*next topic*

Thanks to the wonder of the Internet, I tracked down the guy I used to get compost from at a very attractive price. He is still willing to sell me a truckload.  THE GARDEN is on track and well within budget.

[blithely unafraid to show his coffee growing ignorance ....]

And OT but ....

It would seem to me that an enterprising land owner [which leaves me out darn it ....] could attempt the introduction of coffee as a crop here in the uS ?
Most of us really enjoy the first cup in the morning, the fresh hot cup after dinner, etc.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 20, 2009, 08:38:56 am
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Most of us really enjoy the first cup in the morning, the fresh hot cup after dinner, etc.

Or two pots during my usual 36 hour day  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 20, 2009, 08:59:47 am
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Most of us really enjoy the first cup in the morning, the fresh hot cup after dinner, etc.

Or two pots during my usual 36 hour day  :laugh:

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 20, 2009, 06:57:27 pm
I was addicted to that powder from Colombia, instant coffee, so I stashed a bunch of it in my pantry getting ready for the depression.  I also bought caffeine pills (not NoDoz, another brand) for my bug out bag.  Now I've kicked the habit again and have some stuff to barter after TSHTF.  Or not.  Maybe real coffee snobs will never stoop so low as to let instant coffee touch their lips ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 20, 2009, 07:31:05 pm
Instant coffee...... that's Communist :dnftt:  ^_^

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 20, 2009, 09:21:57 pm
I dunno ... I'm probably a freak ... well, I'm actually pretty sure of it ...
Anyway, for me drinking instant coffee is like listening to Dvorak's Cello Concerto performed by a bunch of 12-year-olds.  I'd rather skip it altogether... unless it is MY 12-year-old playing 3rd violin or somesuch.

In my little brain, the choice was between quitting and establishing a way to process long-term-stored green beans into fresh roasted coffee.  A good cuppa Joe can occasionally substitute for a meal. With the extra bit I carry behind my navel, I can afford that trade-off.  More importantly, sipping that perfect cup at the optimal temperature is a very cost-effective simple pleasure.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 20, 2009, 09:38:33 pm
Sold/traded my above ground swimming pool for seven 4 foot metal gates and cash boot. Sold two doors. Worked on enclosing another greenhouse for retail sale of bedding plants.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 20, 2009, 09:53:27 pm
I dunno ... I'm probably a freak ... well, I'm actually pretty sure of it ...
Anyway, for me drinking instant coffee is like listening to Dvorak's Cello Concerto performed by a bunch of 12-year-olds.  I'd rather skip it altogether... unless it is MY 12-year-old playing 3rd violin or somesuch.

In my little brain, the choice was between quitting and establishing a way to process long-term-stored green beans into fresh roasted coffee.  A good cuppa Joe can occasionally substitute for a meal. With the extra bit I carry behind my navel, I can afford that trade-off.  More importantly, sipping that perfect cup at the optimal temperature is a very cost-effective simple pleasure.

Slideman:

As an affordable backup, I highly recommend "Cafe Bustelo" by the case.

http://www.javacabana.com/?p=catalog&parent=2

The expresso brick fro $2.20 simply cannot be beat b other ground coffees.

Full disclosure:

I have been drinking Bustelo for 20 years and I have yet to find a better, comparatively priced, brand, anywhere. I do understand the fresh roast thing. I lived over a coffee roasting shop in San Francisco North beach for 2 years in the 70's. I woke up to the roast.

Try Bustelo and let me know your opinion.

Best regards
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 20, 2009, 10:37:13 pm
I dunno ... I'm probably a freak ... well, I'm actually pretty sure of it ...
Anyway, for me drinking instant coffee is like listening to Dvorak's Cello Concerto performed by a bunch of 12-year-olds.  I'd rather skip it altogether... unless it is MY 12-year-old playing 3rd violin or somesuch.

In my little brain, the choice was between quitting and establishing a way to process long-term-stored green beans into fresh roasted coffee.  A good cuppa Joe can occasionally substitute for a meal. With the extra bit I carry behind my navel, I can afford that trade-off.  More importantly, sipping that perfect cup at the optimal temperature is a very cost-effective simple pleasure.
emphasis mine

"No Comment" on the freak thing ....  :rolleyes:  [professional courtesy and all of that ....]

According to Tony Hillerman and one of his Navajo policemen characters [I have forgotten which one ....] ....
"Coffee and a smoke will get you through times of no food better than food will get you through times of no coffee and/or no smokes."  IIRC

Hwg   I will be trying out the Bustelo this weekend. [From off of the shelves of my local grocery.]
Is there an especially good version ? [ I seem to remember only one Cafe Bustelo on the shelves so it might not matter ....]

more later ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 20, 2009, 10:44:47 pm
I dunno ... I'm probably a freak ... well, I'm actually pretty sure of it ...
Anyway, for me drinking instant coffee is like listening to Dvorak's Cello Concerto performed by a bunch of 12-year-olds.  I'd rather skip it altogether... unless it is MY 12-year-old playing 3rd violin or somesuch.

In my little brain, the choice was between quitting and establishing a way to process long-term-stored green beans into fresh roasted coffee.  A good cuppa Joe can occasionally substitute for a meal. With the extra bit I carry behind my navel, I can afford that trade-off.  More importantly, sipping that perfect cup at the optimal temperature is a very cost-effective simple pleasure.
emphasis mine

"No Comment" on the freak thing ....  :rolleyes:  [professional courtesy and all of that ....]

According to Tony Hillerman and one of his Navajo policemen characters [I have forgotten which one ....] ....
"Coffee and a smoke will get you through times of no food better than food will get you through times of no coffee and/or no smokes."  IIRC

Hwg   I will be trying out the Bustelo this weekend. [From off of the shelves of my local grocery.]
Is there an especially good version ? [ I seem to remember only one Cafe Bustelo on the shelves so it might not matter ....]

more later ....

Gooch:

Yellow can/pack and under $3 anywhere in Tx. I think it is their "Expresso" grind but I have been doin it for years and no longer read the label. Try HEB or CVS or ??

DS
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on March 21, 2009, 02:47:18 am
There is NO such thing as Tame Blackberry! LOL :mellow:  I can remember we cut them like the vicious weeds they were and still had berries coming out of our ears every year.  I only allow them to grow as a fence type plant out at the edge of my new place, and enjoy their berries.  Then I borrow my uncles tractor with a brush grinder attachment and go to town.  (picture a backhoe arm with a chain flail attached, the ends of the chain have a sort of sharpened T on the end).

HHmmm, maybe I need to quell some berries?  list of things top do on the next trip there.

Ate a fresh grown avocado Orange style for a snack.  Sharpened up one of my Farmer's Pals.  Ran myself thru my "fitness test" to see where I am at.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 21, 2009, 01:11:28 pm
There is NO such thing as Tame Blackberry!

I had 100-yards of year-round creek running through my N. Calif acreage.  It was 80 yards of blackberries with a driveway creek crossing cutting across it. 
Blackberries are sweet and plump if they get plenty of water.
The second trick is to take a machete to them every fall or winter.
The third trick is to prune the green shoots when the first berries blacken to make berry picking a whole bunch easier .. and keep the berry patch from outgrowing the space you want it to stay confined in.

If, belay that, WHEN they get out of control, it is tractor time.  Don't worry about hurting them, they will be back.  By the way, the Himalayan blackberries are much more invasive, hearty, have larger berries and larger thorns than the American native blackberries.  If you find the smaller-thorned natives, encourage them and discourage the Himalayans.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ShortyDawkins on March 21, 2009, 03:01:49 pm

If, belay that, WHEN they get out of control, it is tractor time.  Don't worry about hurting them, they will be back. 

  I can relate to that. I tried, many years ago, to eliminate raspberries from a corner of my lot. Nada. They were back in two weeks time. I'd spent two hole days digging down to get rid of roots, all to no avail.

   Shorty Dawkins
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 21, 2009, 07:36:14 pm
Picked up a couple accent, pepper,vanillia,coffee creamer, cinnamon, and garlic powder. Well the last 4 only got one big of each.
Its only me and S/O but I am trying to put back enough for at least 4 more LOL and yes I use what I am storing so it get rotated.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 21, 2009, 10:17:11 pm
Bought a little ammo.  The shelves at Wally World were almost bare, but they had a couple of calibers we use.  Bought some more filters for our water filter pitcher.  Got out and walked - which is something I need to get into the habit of doing on a more regular basis.  Added a few things to the first aid kit.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on March 22, 2009, 12:48:23 am
Went and bought another case of 9mm and assorted box's of ammo. At the Gun Store I shop at I don't have any problem getting the ammo i need. But my Daughter says Chinamart is usually out of what she needs.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on March 22, 2009, 01:08:36 am
Took the wife in to the gym today, gave her what she thinks is a workout.  It's about 1/2 of what I do, and she knows it, but she's going to get used to it, and improve upon it.

Last Monday, I proved my 8mm Mauser and my AK-47.  The Mauser needed a slight adjustment of the front sight; now it shoots dead on, but I clearly need to practice on it.  But first I need ammo!

The AK shoots great, no adjustment needed.  I'll ruin any JBT's love life, no problem, at least at 25 yards.  Still gotta practice.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 22, 2009, 08:11:36 am
(Today and yesterday) Bought 8 fruit trees, 2 pear, 2 apple, 2 plum and 2 fig. Bought garden seeds and flats for sprouting. Dug wild onions and grilled some with lamb chops. Trimmed 10 goat's hooves. Put out a Jack (Mrs. named the Jack "Edward R. Burrow") with the goats and set new coyote snares. Scrounged about 2000' of galvanized fence fabric off of a construction site that was used for erosion fencing. Poisoned fire ant mounds (about 100 or so) in our hay field and hand sprayed about 200 thistle plants. Replaced the shower diverter handle extracting my first stripped screw. Planned how to raise the first chicks while we build a coop for the starters.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 22, 2009, 08:06:38 pm
It just occurred to me yesterday that I should find room in my BOB for a couple of trident frog gig tips and I made a point of looking for them today.  No luck at Walmart or Sports Authority so I settled on Internet shopping and waiting for delivery. 

I bought a few other items at Walmart however, most importantly a Beeman Model 1073 Air Rifle.  This model comes with a scope and has alternate barrels for .177 and .22 sized pellets, good for birds, frogs, squirrels, even woodchucks and rabbits.  Muzzle velocity is 1000 fps for the smaller ammo and 850 fps for the larger.  This is a solid, heavy rifle with adjustable fiber-optic sights and not something I would take on a bug-out.  If I'm carrying that weight, it had better be a semi-automatic rifle for self defense.  However, if I'm making a go of it in my home after TSHTF, the relative quiet of an air rifle, especially one with a removable barrel so it can be concealed in a backpack, will make it a great foraging tool.  Why advertise my activities to the entire local population or the authorities?

Anyway, back to the frog gigs.  Although I found a wide selection of very sturdy fish and frog spear tips at the Sorrento Bait and Tackle Outdoors site, size and weight were the main criteria for my Bug-Out Bag.  I wound up buying two less-well-made 4-tine gigs for cheap and at the least expensive shipping cost.  If I decide they need beefing up, I will fire up my welder and reinforce them a bit.  Here are my results for similar-sized gigs arranged in ascending order of cost:

Sorrento Bait and Tackle Outdoors (http://www.sbtoutdoors.com/fish_spears.htm) 3-tine $6.99 EA + $6.50 shpg = $20.48/two
Cabela's (http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0017667015899a.shtml) 3-tine $6.99 EA. + $5.95 shpg =  $19.93/two
Dale Hollow Outdoors (http://mickiesplace.com/store/product/15022/B-&-M--4-Tine-Frog-Gig-/) 4-tine $3.89 EA + $9.00 shpg = $16.78/two
GoFastAndLight (http://www.gofastandlight.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FI-H-4FROG&variation=) 4-tine $3.89 EA + $5.95 shpg = $13.73/two

And for those who wonder just how you hunt frogs:  http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/252897/how_to_frog_gig_pg2.html?cat=11
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 22, 2009, 09:21:32 pm
Went to the range again today.  Watched a cowboy action shooting tournament.  Took the wife.  Lots of fun.  We ended up picking up about 100 rounds reloadable brass and a couple pounds of lead from the berms.  Shot the pistol some and find that my aim is definitely getting better.  Wife wants a pistol now.  We went down and put a hi point .40 sw on order for her.  The price was so right, that I added a 9mm to the order just because  :laugh:

Tumbled a couple loads of brass and found a buyer for the .38 special brass while I was at the range.  Now I need to find someone to buy the .45 acp brass.  Using the money from the brass to buy more ammo and guns.  Win, win deal.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on March 23, 2009, 12:20:45 am
Went to the range again today.  Watched a cowboy action shooting tournament.  Took the wife.  Lots of fun.  We ended up picking up about 100 rounds reloadable brass and a couple pounds of lead from the berms.  Shot the pistol some and find that my aim is definitely getting better.  Wife wants a pistol now.  We went down and put a hi point .40 sw on order for her.  The price was so right, that I added a 9mm to the order just because  :laugh:

Tumbled a couple loads of brass and found a buyer for the .38 special brass while I was at the range.  Now I need to find someone to buy the .45 acp brass.  Using the money from the brass to buy more ammo and guns.  Win, win deal.

With respects,Hi-Points are not very good firearms.I've seen pics of them that are very scary.Slides that have detached while there were bein fired.Be very careful with those pistols. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 23, 2009, 08:11:50 am
Went to the range again today.  Watched a cowboy action shooting tournament.  Took the wife.  Lots of fun.  We ended up picking up about 100 rounds reloadable brass and a couple pounds of lead from the berms.  Shot the pistol some and find that my aim is definitely getting better.  Wife wants a pistol now.  We went down and put a hi point .40 sw on order for her.  The price was so right, that I added a 9mm to the order just because  :laugh:

Tumbled a couple loads of brass and found a buyer for the .38 special brass while I was at the range.  Now I need to find someone to buy the .45 acp brass.  Using the money from the brass to buy more ammo and guns.  Win, win deal.

With respects,Hi-Points are not very good firearms.I've seen pics of them that are very scary.Slides that have detached while there were bein fired.Be very careful with those pistols. Ought 7.

I've done quite a bit of research, and have found that there really are quite decent weapons.   I realize that they aren't as well balanced, pretty to look at, or comfortable if you are using it as a carry.  But everything that I've read, heard from the local gun folks, and seen says that they will be just fine to use as practice pistols or to put in the glovebox, nightstand, etc.  They really don't seem to have any jamming issues, and I haven't see the problem with the detachable slides.  If you have any links that I should be aware of, let me know.  Knowledge is the best tool.  Thanks.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 23, 2009, 11:41:15 am
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I've done quite a bit of research, and have found that there really are quite decent weapons.


Sorry but IMHO "decent" just doesn't cut it. Tools seem to have the bad habit of breaking just when you need them most. Only buy the best.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 23, 2009, 02:32:46 pm
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I've done quite a bit of research, and have found that there really are quite decent weapons.


Sorry but IMHO "decent" just doesn't cut it. Tools seem to have the bad habit of breaking just when you need them most. Only buy the best.

I guess if I had an unlimited budget, I would buy the best  Unfortunately I have to work for a living and have to hunt and pick for deals.  I do have a 'quality' Sig for my personal carry.  Just looking for an inexpensive gun to run a lot of rounds through for practice and as an extra.  Just can't quantify spending $2500 on a couple of 'good' pistols to practice with when I can spend $250 instead.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 23, 2009, 02:46:06 pm
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I've done quite a bit of research, and have found that there really are quite decent weapons.


Sorry but IMHO "decent" just doesn't cut it. Tools seem to have the bad habit of breaking just when you need them most. Only buy the best.

I guess if I had an unlimited budget, I would buy the best  Unfortunately I have to work for a living and have to hunt and pick for deals.  I do have a 'quality' Sig for my personal carry.  Just looking for an inexpensive gun to run a lot of rounds through for practice and as an extra.  Just can't quantify spending $2500 on a couple of 'good' pistols to practice with when I can spend $250 instead.

Ah, my bad, I thought you were gonna use one as your primary defense gun.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on March 23, 2009, 04:00:49 pm
well the fact is the $100 pistol you've got will always serve you better than the $500 pistol that's under the counter at the gunshop when you need a pistol.......................

Knowing this, is it any wonder that ole'uncle satan did away with all those cheapo pistols that used to be produced that po' folk could easilly afford?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 23, 2009, 04:15:17 pm
Sent the link to here to some conservitive people on the ranchers board.
Got fridge refilled with freon (sp) S/O asked if they fixed where it was leaking...uummmm he said all it needed was refilling oh well after 3.5 hours sleep
really wasnt thinking.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 23, 2009, 04:17:58 pm
Knowing this, is it any wonder that ole'uncle satan did away with all those cheapo pistols that used to be produced that po' folk could easilly afford?

You mean "Saturday Night Specials"? As I remember it, the scare was supposed to be that black folks carry 'em around, and use 'em to rob and keel white folks.  :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on March 23, 2009, 10:52:02 pm
Bought a simple pump.

www.simplepump.com

I like this guy -

Me: I want to buy whatever spares and replacement parts that might be required.

Him: I will sell you a seal kit, for $25.00 - but you won't need it for at least a decade.
And that is under 3rd world conditions.














Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 24, 2009, 07:35:06 am
Researching log splitters. Anyone have experience with this manual one?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200316859_200316859
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on March 24, 2009, 10:04:21 am
Sent the link to here to some conservitive people on the ranchers board.
Got fridge refilled with freon (sp) S/O asked if they fixed where it was leaking...uummmm he said all it needed was refilling oh well after 3.5 hours sleep
really wasnt thinking.

Time to start looking for a new fridge there MS. I hope they put a line dryer in when they opened the system otherwise moisture will have invaded the system and is killing it now. Also what happens is after time the copper coils start to get microfractures in it from heating and cooling and the vibration.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 24, 2009, 10:35:28 am
Researching log splitters. Anyone have experience with this manual one?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200316859_200316859


No sir,

Not that exact model any way.  My Dad made one of his own using a hydraulic jack and it worked well except for getting stuck in the really burly [is a word ?] wood. [Southern Live Oak = He lived in North Fla until he died.]

This (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200325119_200325119)  is the manual model with which I have the most experience.  Only mine is an 8 pound model and needs a new handle.
Mine has never failed to start nor has it run out of fuel   uhm .... make me tired and burn off a lot of anxiety and frustration.
0 [Zero] moving parts or seals to wear out. [IF you don't count the operator at the end of the handle .... ]
It also makes redundant the gym membership ....
The hydraulic model would be really nice when I get to the "later years" [I'm only 61 ].
I would wonder about replacement seals and such. 
Also .... what oils [naturally available] can replace hydraulic oil ?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 24, 2009, 10:38:15 am
Ordered a case of 22LR online.

On Sunday I happened to be driving from Cleveland to Pittsburgh, so as an experiment I visited or called every Walmart and Dick's on the route. Every last one was completely cleaned out of pistol ammunition and 22LR.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 24, 2009, 11:02:18 am
Researching log splitters. Anyone have experience with this manual one?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200316859_200316859


No sir,

Not that exact model any way.  My Dad made one of his own using a hydraulic jack and it worked well except for getting stuck in the really burly [is a word ?] wood. [Southern Live Oak = He lived in North Fla until he died.]

This (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200325119_200325119)  is the manual model with which I have the most experience.  Only mine is an 8 pound model and needs a new handle.
Mine has never failed to start nor has it run out of fuel   uhm .... make me tired and burn off a lot of anxiety and frustration.
0 [Zero] moving parts or seals to wear out. [IF you don't count the operator at the end of the handle .... ]
It also makes redundant the gym membership ....
The hydraulic model would be really nice when I get to the "later years" [I'm only 61 ].
I would wonder about replacement seals and such. 
Also .... what oils [naturally available] can replace hydraulic oil ?

Gooch:

Thanks for the inspiration but my bout with spinal meningitis makes your option a non-starter or "non-swinger". I am looking for a low cost, low tech, solution that works but not one that works poorly. My guess is that seals can be easily had and I will not live long enough to see the end of hydrolic oil. I could be wrong...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on March 24, 2009, 11:21:35 am
I have looked at this one  (http://wood-splitters.com/product_info.php?cPath=5&products_id=60) wondering if it could be constructed at home.

"No fuel, no fumes, no strain, no pain, split logs up to 24"x24". The safest, easiest, quietest indoor/outdoor log splitter ever. Adjust wedge to log size, pump foot pedal until log splits, remove log and repeat. It's that easy."
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 24, 2009, 12:22:05 pm
Researching log splitters. Anyone have experience with this manual one?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200316859_200316859


No sir,

Not that exact model any way.  My Dad made one of his own using a hydraulic jack and it worked well except for getting stuck in the really burly [is a word ?] wood. [Southern Live Oak = He lived in North Fla until he died.]

This (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200325119_200325119)  is the manual model with which I have the most experience.  Only mine is an 8 pound model and needs a new handle.
Mine has never failed to start nor has it run out of fuel   uhm .... make me tired and burn off a lot of anxiety and frustration.
0 [Zero] moving parts or seals to wear out. [IF you don't count the operator at the end of the handle .... ]
It also makes redundant the gym membership ....
The hydraulic model would be really nice when I get to the "later years" [I'm only 61 ].
I would wonder about replacement seals and such. 
Also .... what oils [naturally available] can replace hydraulic oil ?

Gooch:

Thanks for the inspiration but my bout with spinal meningitis makes your option a non-starter or "non-swinger". I am looking for a low cost, low tech, solution that works but not one that works poorly. My guess is that seals can be easily had and I will not live long enough to see the end of hydrolic oil. I could be wrong...

no offense was intended Hwg.

Having a piece of wood get "stuck" in the splitter is the only negative I can see here Hwg.

It would depend on the predominant wood type that you will be splitting on whether the splitter would "get stuck" very often.
Straighter grained woods and woods with less knots tend to get stuck less, obviously.

My Dad's splitter was a horizontal style and when a log would get stuck it was a Major operation to free up the splitter again.

Getting the splitter stuck in the wood is yet another hassle that wood splitter manufacturers do not discuss when attempting to make a sale of one of their products.
It does happen BUT with a judicious application of thought before placing the piece of wood in the splitter the chance of it getting stuck can be greatly reduced but Not eliminated.
The only remedy of a stuck piece [to my current knowledge] is the application of the manual splitter I referenced to earlier.
Or a heavy mallet and a couple of splitting wedges. [tree felling wedges will also work in this instance]

This one (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200344513_200344513)  or This one (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200347863_200347863) would be a bit better in avoiding the hassle of getting a piece of wood "stuck" on the splitter. IMO
They would require manually lifting the pieces up to the splitter however. [Or rolling them off of the truck onto the splitter ? ?]

Meanwhile ....
There is one fairly easy to use and maintain option that we haven't mentioned as yet ....



wait for it ....









The neighbors teenage child that is trying to earn money for that all important "first car" or some other "can't live without it" item.

This presupposes that: [possibly incorrectly .... it wouldn't be my first time for that]
1- you have neighbors with teenaged children whom you would trust to closely approach your home and ....
2- you have some item or thing which said teenaged child will accept in exchange for their labor.

It also is not an extremely long lasting option. Teens tend to grow older and more independent Bless them.
I think the hydraulic models are a lot less problematic in the long run.

==========

Good find mutti.   :thumbsup:

It looks fairly simple to make IF one has a welder and the materials.
The only drawback I can see is the necessity of having to manually release the hydraulic pressure after every attempt at splitting a piece.
[whine, whine, whine]
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 24, 2009, 01:03:01 pm
Researching log splitters. Anyone have experience with this manual one?

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200316859_200316859


No sir,

Not that exact model any way.  My Dad made one of his own using a hydraulic jack and it worked well except for getting stuck in the really burly [is a word ?] wood. [Southern Live Oak = He lived in North Fla until he died.]

This (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200325119_200325119)  is the manual model with which I have the most experience.  Only mine is an 8 pound model and needs a new handle.
Mine has never failed to start nor has it run out of fuel   uhm .... make me tired and burn off a lot of anxiety and frustration.
0 [Zero] moving parts or seals to wear out. [IF you don't count the operator at the end of the handle .... ]
It also makes redundant the gym membership ....
The hydraulic model would be really nice when I get to the "later years" [I'm only 61 ].
I would wonder about replacement seals and such. 
Also .... what oils [naturally available] can replace hydraulic oil ?

Gooch:

Thanks for the inspiration but my bout with spinal meningitis makes your option a non-starter or "non-swinger". I am looking for a low cost, low tech, solution that works but not one that works poorly. My guess is that seals can be easily had and I will not live long enough to see the end of hydrolic oil. I could be wrong...

no offense was intended Hwg.

Having a piece of wood get "stuck" in the splitter is the only negative I can see here Hwg.

It would depend on the predominant wood type that you will be splitting on whether the splitter would "get stuck" very often.
Straighter grained woods and woods with less knots tend to get stuck less, obviously.

My Dad's splitter was a horizontal style and when a log would get stuck it was a Major operation to free up the splitter again.

Getting the splitter stuck in the wood is yet another hassle that wood splitter manufacturers do not discuss when attempting to make a sale of one of their products.
It does happen BUT with a judicious application of thought before placing the piece of wood in the splitter the chance of it getting stuck can be greatly reduced but Not eliminated.
The only remedy of a stuck piece [to my current knowledge] is the application of the manual splitter I referenced to earlier.
Or a heavy mallet and a couple of splitting wedges. [tree felling wedges will also work in this instance]

This one (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200344513_200344513)  or This one (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200347863_200347863) would be a bit better in avoiding the hassle of getting a piece of wood "stuck" on the splitter. IMO
They would require manually lifting the pieces up to the splitter however. [Or rolling them off of the truck onto the splitter ? ?]

Meanwhile ....
There is one fairly easy to use and maintain option that we haven't mentioned as yet ....



wait for it ....









The neighbors teenage child that is trying to earn money for that all important "first car" or some other "can't live without it" item.

This presupposes that: [possibly incorrectly .... it wouldn't be my first time for that]
1- you have neighbors with teenaged children whom you would trust to closely approach your home and ....
2- you have some item or thing which said teenaged child will accept in exchange for their labor.

It also is not an extremely long lasting option. Teens tend to grow older and more independent Bless them.
I think the hydraulic models are a lot less problematic in the long run.

==========

Good find mutti.   :thumbsup:

It looks fairly simple to make IF one has a welder and the materials.
The only drawback I can see is the necessity of having to manually release the hydraulic pressure after every attempt at splitting a piece.
[whine, whine, whine]

Gooch:

No offense taken. Quite a selection. The expensive of the 2 is approaching or right at what a PTO/Tractor hydraulic 20 ton machine is going for. Maybe I need to look at a bio-fuel diesel setup and go with the tractor one??

The kid thing is complicated. I hate to say it but I really do not want the liability of a young person cutting off a foot or hand on our ranch. My wife was in a wreck and the other driver totaled our old Durango. The driver of the pick-up said something like "we can't afford a pick-up like you. We aren't rich" (AKA you aren't drunk by 10:00 AM like I am). He later trespassed and presented her with a bill for fixing his truck as if it were her fault. Small town with a lot of talk and beliefs, some correct some not. Other than for a select number of people and for some public church and chamber activities, we keep to ourselves.

Thanks

DS
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 24, 2009, 03:25:06 pm
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Time to start looking for a new fridge there MS. I hope they put a line dryer in when they opened the system otherwise moisture will have invaded the system and is killing it now. Also what happens is after time the copper coils start to get microfractures in it from heating and cooling and the vibration.
well I am keeping the cooler handy. Instead of stocking up on frozen things I will invest in canned and #10 cans dehydrated. I still havent gone to the store yet and really havent missed anything but milk.
The only thing he did after going back to get the tester and freon was to test and add , and make a mess out of my kitchen.  :rolleyes:
Started on S/O's cousins baby quilt and help him see the good in getting put on a new dedicated run. He is the go to guy at the company to start new runs in the NW. He gets them up and running then someone else gets to have the fun LOL 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 24, 2009, 04:27:01 pm
Ordered 50 pounds of Anasazi beans from Adobe Milling in Dove Creek, CO.  They're a little pricey, but they don't require presoaking, they cook more rapidly than most beans, (therefore requiring less fuel to cook), and they're less gaseous than most beans.    Info: http://www.anasazibeans.com/beans.html    Homepage:  http://www.anasazibeans.com/

They also have a nice spice called Bacon Bean Spice - ordered a few bottles of that too; gotta have something to pep up the taste of beans when you can't go shopping anymore.

(I have no financial interest in Adobe Milling - just passing along info I've found useful).

Also ordered some more freeze-dried foods, additional parts for my food dehydrator, etc.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Howard on March 25, 2009, 05:42:18 am
Today I ordered 20 five gallon food grade plastic buckets, 24 five-to-six gallon mylar bags, a mess of oxygen absorbers and a sturdy grain mill. It's not a massive amount of food storage, but I'd reckon it a fair start, finally.

In a day or so after the containers are on their way it'll be time to order stuff to put IN the containers. Any suggestions for diversifying my post - SHTF diet?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on March 25, 2009, 06:38:48 am
Today I ordered 20 five gallon food grade plastic buckets, 24 five-to-six gallon mylar bags, a mess of oxygen absorbers and a sturdy grain mill. It's not a massive amount of food storage, but I'd reckon it a fair start, finally.

In a day or so after the containers are on their way it'll be time to order stuff to put IN the containers. Any suggestions for diversifying my post - SHTF diet?

have you done any cooking from scratch?  The very basic, but very durable foods that store well, will require that knowledge.  I am constantly trying weird stuff, simply because I will learn how to doctor up some "flavors" aside from the plain wheat, rice, and beans (with dashes of veggies and meat maybe) that is the long term storage diet.  It will give you and idea on what long term spices or herb garden stuff you will also want to have on hand.  It also will promote rotation, which is a necessity for any kind of real preparedness.  If you have the land, figure out where and how much you can use for a real garden, learn to grow, preserve, and store what to like to eat.

I have found that I like fresh stuff when it is in season, and preserved versions of the same in the off season. so what do you like besides big macs and microwaveable hot wings?  Can it be stored, and for how long?  I have a lot of preprepared caned goods like ravioli, tortellini, beef stew, corned beef, and other "flavorful" stuff that can be used along with the plain stuff as "flavor extenders" or breaks from the fairly plain base ingredients.  I have tried to stick to stuff that is better mixed with the stored basics tho'.  Chili, corned beef, canned chicken and beef, etc. that can mix with rice and beans.  Cinnamon, dried milk, salt, dried onion, garlic, pepper, and other seasonings to punch everything up to some extent.  There are some #10 cans of "mom's sausage seasoning" which is actually a family recipe seasoning mix that I actually have canned up as a premixed item.

Learn to eat plain and non-processed as much as possible- and when you find the plain stuff you like, store the ingredients.  I like banana bread, I have enough dried bananas and walnuts stashed to last me quite a while now.  It is too bad that the yellow banana that we see in the grocery stores are an endangered crop.  The current ones are all clones and vulnerable to a disease that is gradually wiping them out.  I am going to be growing several different kinds of each fruit, berry, and vegetable/ nut. once my gulch is properly set up.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on March 25, 2009, 10:09:01 am
Nomads2
How long do Anasazi  beans store for?
   Zookeeper
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 25, 2009, 12:21:44 pm
Nomads2
How long do Anasazi  beans store for?
   Zookeeper

There's some info about them at this link to a different vendor:    http://www.indianharvest.com/Anasazi-Bean-24
Basically, it just says "Long shelf life when stored in a cool, dry place."  I imagine their shelf life would be about as good as any other bean.  I've been using them for years, and have had no problems with the ones I keep on my pantry shelf, even after a year or two.

BTW, if you look around the page at the above link, there are recipes for them, too. And there's a couple more recipes at:    http://www.anasazibeans.com/recipe.html     
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on March 25, 2009, 07:49:15 pm
http://www.anasazibeans.com/beans.html

Take a look at this.  This is my stomping grounds and my area of interest.
Beans were found in ruins dating back to the 1300's and before and germinated.
It would seem to me that would be an acceptable long term storage item.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on March 25, 2009, 07:54:59 pm
Yesterday, purchased 35 apple and pear trees, we planted about 25% of the garden. Early crops. Today, we covered a greenhouse with plastic and started filling it with bedding plants for retail sale. Ordered more 30- 4 year old blueberry plants and 10 cherry trees. Boy is my ass dragging.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 25, 2009, 09:53:33 pm
http://www.anasazibeans.com/beans.html

Take a look at this.  This is my stomping grounds and my area of interest.
Beans were found in ruins dating back to the 1300's and before and germinated.
It would seem to me that would be an acceptable long term storage item.

You're in a beautiful part of the world there.  We've done some exploring of some of the ruins in the Four Corners area, and have stumbled upon some lesser known ones while hiking/backpacking. 

When it comes to beans, I use Anasazis almost exclusively.  I throw them in the crock pot with a hamhock and onions.  Serve with squash.  Yum. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 26, 2009, 01:25:21 am
I've been modifying my van.  I'm enlarging and reinforcing a locking cabinet to hold my bug-out backpack and belt pouch plus a change of footwear and clothing.  I'd rather almost anything else was stolen from my van than my bug-out bag since I can't just go out and buy a replacement; a lot of work is involved in putting one together.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on March 26, 2009, 02:22:24 am
Wouldn't that make it real hard ta get ta in a Didi Mau type prob.Don't put all your eggs in one basket.1 is none 2 is 1 ect. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 27, 2009, 12:19:13 am
Yes, you're right.  Thanks for the warning.  I keep a duffle next to the driver's seat and, due to your advice, will make sure it is better stocked for a quick dash to safety.  I also have four caches with flight essentials that I may be able to reach on foot.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on March 27, 2009, 12:34:42 am
You are highlighting why old guys can be more dangerous than young ones....
I don't figure I can run fast enough, far enough or survive without all my stuff long enough.

Someone wanting to chase me outta here is going to get little pieces of my preparations at high velocity.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 27, 2009, 12:49:34 am
Ha, ha!  Maybe I mis-spoke.  How about a moderate dash to safety.  After all I'm well into my sixth decade ;-)  And really, it depends on the situation.  I'm not going to stay and shoot it out with a flood or a chemical spill and if my binoculars tell me there's a NWO military roadblock ahead of the big traffic jam and I can see they are pulling people out of their cars and shooting them, I'm not going to wait till it's my turn.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 28, 2009, 04:31:36 pm
Bought the last 4 boxes of stinger 22 and the last 6 boxes of LR 22 bullets. I was told they are not sure when they will get more since they dont agree with backorders.
They get their bullets from Bass Pro and they were told they will send what they have when an order from Gebos comes in along with what they do have order.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 28, 2009, 08:48:16 pm
Bought the last box of the cheap 22 LR [bulk pack of 500] but did notice that they had four [six ?] boxes of the Remington brand name 550 count boxes of 22 LR. [$4 more Each.]

Also picked up a 15 count box of the 00 buck for my intruder allergy treatment tool sized 12.
The shelves are not completely bare, curiously most of the really "rare" stuff is still there.
Lots of 308 Win and 223 Rem but the 243 and 22 LR are all but gone.

Sure wish I had the frn's to buy up the 308 and then get a Rem 700 in 308.
I am pretty handy with a bolt action ....

I will do what I can with what I can get ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on March 28, 2009, 08:56:33 pm
Installed a Simple Pump in my well.
Yippee! I now have water that i can access with only my muscles!
Picked up another 525 22LR HP at Big 5 Sporting Goods for $19.95.
They had more, but I still haven't broken into my YK2 stash.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 29, 2009, 08:34:00 am
Ordered a tactical vest from LA Police Gear (anyone ever heard anything about these guys?), a set of BDU's, hat, some winter caps for the BOB's, and got a donated wool blanket (original Navy issue from the 40's in perfect condition) that a lady was going to throw out.

 Going to buy bulk sugar and salt today for storage... getting low on the sugar, simply needed the salt.

Does anyone know if they sell sea salt in bulk?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on March 29, 2009, 08:46:23 am
My buddy scored some free 55 gallon drums. We have filled up two drums of stabilized gas, one (so far) of diesel for my tractor, and one of keroscene. One more diesel and one more kero to be put up this coming week. I need to paint the diesel drum yellow. Will get two more drums to fill maybe this week or next. That will make me a tank farm!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on March 29, 2009, 11:27:30 am
Today I ordered 20 five gallon food grade plastic buckets, 24 five-to-six gallon mylar bags, a mess of oxygen absorbers and a sturdy grain mill. It's not a massive amount of food storage, but I'd reckon it a fair start, finally.

In a day or so after the containers are on their way it'll be time to order stuff to put IN the containers. Any suggestions for diversifying my post - SHTF diet?

have you done any cooking from scratch?  The very basic, but very durable foods that store well, will require that knowledge.  I am constantly trying weird stuff, simply because I will learn how to doctor up some "flavors" aside from the plain wheat, rice, and beans (with dashes of veggies and meat maybe) that is the long term storage diet.  It will give you and idea on what long term spices or herb garden stuff you will also want to have on hand.  It also will promote rotation, which is a necessity for any kind of real preparedness.  If you have the land, figure out where and how much you can use for a real garden, learn to grow, preserve, and store what to like to eat.

I have found that I like fresh stuff when it is in season, and preserved versions of the same in the off season. so what do you like besides big macs and microwaveable hot wings?  Can it be stored, and for how long?  I have a lot of preprepared caned goods like ravioli, tortellini, beef stew, corned beef, and other "flavorful" stuff that can be used along with the plain stuff as "flavor extenders" or breaks from the fairly plain base ingredients.  I have tried to stick to stuff that is better mixed with the stored basics tho'.  Chili, corned beef, canned chicken and beef, etc. that can mix with rice and beans.  Cinnamon, dried milk, salt, dried onion, garlic, pepper, and other seasonings to punch everything up to some extent.  There are some #10 cans of "mom's sausage seasoning" which is actually a family recipe seasoning mix that I actually have canned up as a premixed item.

Learn to eat plain and non-processed as much as possible- and when you find the plain stuff you like, store the ingredients.  I like banana bread, I have enough dried bananas and walnuts stashed to last me quite a while now.  It is too bad that the yellow banana that we see in the grocery stores are an endangered crop.  The current ones are all clones and vulnerable to a disease that is gradually wiping them out.  I am going to be growing several different kinds of each fruit, berry, and vegetable/ nut. once my gulch is properly set up.

Rarick:

You make some good points about food and cooking. I'd like to add to your thoughts with a few ideas. First, learn to cook uncommon foods. This would include different types of meats, squirrel, frog, rabbit, pigeon, dove etc. as well as different cuts of meat, heart, liver, tail, tongue, shank, sweetbreads and the tough muscle meats. Most folks today eat a very narrow range of cuts of meat and do not know the other cuts and don't know how to cook them. Some of these cuts require heavy cookware and pressure cookers in some cases. These tools are worth acquiring and they can be had cheaply as they are somewhat out of favor.

The other thought is really a very old one. That is to lay back spices. Wars have been fought over them. Some can be grown but many cannot easily be produced. As many must be transported over long distances, I believe they could go up in price and some will be very difficult to find. These can be an ideal barter medium. A great benefit of them is that they are also useful in maintaining a healthful diet and many are a good companion to the "unusual" meats I mention above. Also, look for old cook books on cooking different types of meats. I have bought many such books in second hand stores over the years.

A cheap source of many spices and herbs are ethnic grocers, particularly Latino ones in the southern tier of states. You can purchase bay leaves, anise seeds, mustard seeds, oregano leaves for a fraction of what you will pay in a grocery chain store.   
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 29, 2009, 03:51:36 pm
Sea salt in bulk can be found here.
http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=3
http://www.maineseasalt.com/bulk-sea-salt.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 29, 2009, 08:06:42 pm
Actually it was yesterday BUT ....  [see my earlier post ....]

I introduced two total strangers to Oath Keepers as one of them was an active duty serviceman and the other was a vet like myself.
He really was like me .... a Navy vet who had served on Destroyers.
Strange coincidence that one.

Met them at the "Sporting Goods" counter at WW while picking up the goodies I mentioned earlier.

Oath Keepers has a Partner forum Here now.
So-o-o  both of these fellows will possibly be seeing our little corner of the struggle for Liberty.

With luck more hands to help spread the word and battle the monster.

[he says with Hope on his sleeve ....]
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wheatfields on March 29, 2009, 08:52:22 pm
I visited an ethnic grocery store that also supplies restaurants.  They had a good selection of Melamine bowls and plates, which raised a question on preps.  What would be your preference in stocking extra dinnerware, ceramic or Melamine?

Granted that Melamine can't be used in a microwave, but it's a whole lot lighter than ceramic, and the few older pieces I have are quite durable.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 29, 2009, 08:54:31 pm
Interesting find.....I've been looking for a set of melamine.  I'll keep an eye out for such stores.  Thanks.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on March 29, 2009, 09:46:44 pm
I visited an ethnic grocery store that also supplies restaurants.  They had a good selection of Melamine bowls and plates, which raised a question on preps.  What would be your preference in stocking extra dinnerware, ceramic or Melamine?

Granted that Melamine can't be used in a microwave, but it's a whole lot lighter than ceramic, and the few older pieces I have are quite durable.



In a mobile situation the melamine would, as you say, save weight but not be microwavable.
Saving Weight and the Neatness factor are about it as far as I can see for Melamine dishes.

The really neat thing about real ceramic plates and graniteware is that IF they get broken they can still do duty as knife and tool sharpening stones IF the pieces are big enough to hold safely in the hand.

Melamine is really neat stuff and I save what I can find BUT once broken it is pretty much done .... I think .... any one know something that I don't ? 

               NO !    WAIT !
Let me rephrase that .... does anyone know anything About Melamine that I don't know.

Whew !
If we were to start listing the things I don't know we could cause a bandwidth drain that would probably cripple the whole web for days ....   :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on March 29, 2009, 09:51:11 pm
Sea salt in bulk can be found here.
http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=3
http://www.maineseasalt.com/bulk-sea-salt.html

Ouch!  Those are some hefty prices.  I bought a couple 50# bags of sea salt through my food co-op for $23.76 each.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on March 29, 2009, 10:47:59 pm
In a mobile situation the melamine would, as you say, save weight but not be microwavable.

Just what I'm looking for!  We are mobile, and I rarely use a microwave.  It would be perfect for my situation.  For some others, maybe not so much.

(At present, we're using Corelle dishes.  Have you ever seen a broken Corelle plate?  Millions and millions of teensy tiny, very sharp glassy splinters.  Not fun).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on March 30, 2009, 08:49:19 am
The other day Dicks was mysteriously well-stocked with ammo, so I bought 2K rounds of .22LR, 350 rounds of 9mm and 100 rounds of 7.62x39. I left my name and asked him to call me when they get any .38 special in.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 30, 2009, 10:17:20 am
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The other day Dicks was mysteriously well-stocked with ammo, so I bought 2K rounds of .22LR, 350 rounds of 9mm and 100 rounds of 7.62x39. I left my name and asked him to call me when they get any .38 special in.

I am still waiting for my ammo order from Midway. I knew it was a back order, but
it keeps getting pushed back. Delivery is now first week in April. :|

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on March 30, 2009, 12:39:08 pm
Ordered 3 20-round steel and 3 30-round polymer ProMags from Sportsman's Guide to try out in my Mini-14.  Unfortunately, the 20s are back ordered, but they're claiming expected delivery of May 15th.  We'll see.  The 30s should ship soon, as they were listed in stock.  We'll see about that, too.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on March 30, 2009, 01:19:00 pm
Quote
Ordered 3 20-round steel and 3 30-round polymer ProMags from Sportsman's Guide to try out in my Mini-14.  Unfortunately, the 20s are back ordered, but they're claiming expected delivery of May 15th.  We'll see.  The 30s should ship soon, as they were listed in stock.  We'll see about that, too.

The local paper carried an AP story today that said firearms manufacturers are not taking any more dealer orders because the
orders they have on hand will account for the rest of the year's production.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on March 30, 2009, 08:49:00 pm
I have tactical gear, ammo, clips, reloading stuff all on backorder from 6 different companies.  It's starting to get to the point of ridiculous.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on March 31, 2009, 02:23:48 pm
I bought 6 yards of fabric..it was on sale cuz it was green and still March LOL I know the guys wont understand but the women who quilt will.
S/O Is as we speak getting 1000 rounds 223 a couple hundred of 243, 30-06, and 22 rounds. A roll of paracord and not sure what else he is still shopping LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 01, 2009, 01:29:27 am
Got my Thompson back from AutoOrdnance's repair department.  I sent it in because there was a gouge in the left feed ramp and the gun would not feed from the left side of the magazine.  They replaced...the magazine.  They test fired it and claim it works fine with the new magazine.  Next chance I get to head to the range, I'll verify that.  If so, I've got 6 USGI mags I need to introduce to my Dremel to make lock into the gun.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hillbilly123069 on April 01, 2009, 03:53:40 am
Got a large garbage bag of Toilet paper.I'd hate to try to explain that if I got pulled over.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on April 01, 2009, 01:31:47 pm
In a mobile situation the melamine would, as you say, save weight but not be microwavable.

Just what I'm looking for!  We are mobile, and I rarely use a microwave.  It would be perfect for my situation.  For some others, maybe not so much.

(At present, we're using Corelle dishes.  Have you ever seen a broken Corelle plate?  Millions and millions of teensy tiny, very sharp glassy splinters.  Not fun).
Don't know if you're seriously looking for melamine dishes, or if style matters, but Sportsman's guide has some on sale http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=526875&pn=2
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 01, 2009, 02:44:59 pm
This was yesterday on my way to work. I stopped into Gebos and was searching the shellves for ammo.....Since I use to work there I knew where the step ladder was LOL
Mgr told me to get down there was no ammo hidden.....hehehehehe as I pull out 3 boxes of .357  wwwwoohhhoooo
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 01, 2009, 03:50:54 pm
In a mobile situation the melamine would, as you say, save weight but not be microwavable.

Just what I'm looking for!  We are mobile, and I rarely use a microwave.  It would be perfect for my situation.  For some others, maybe not so much.

(At present, we're using Corelle dishes.  Have you ever seen a broken Corelle plate?  Millions and millions of teensy tiny, very sharp glassy splinters.  Not fun).
Don't know if you're seriously looking for melamine dishes, or if style matters, but Sportsman's guide has some on sale http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=526875&pn=2

Well, the price is right, but I don't think the deer theme would blend in with the rest of my kitchen.  They also have melamine in camo, but that wouldn't exactly fit in either - LOL!  But thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on April 02, 2009, 03:17:00 pm

Not as recently as today, but I picked up 200 rounds of .223 at the rate of $9/20.  He has more, so I'll be stopping by again on payday.  Possibly for the rest.

He also had a fair quantity of 7.62x39 Czech.  There was also a quantity of locally commercially reloaded .357, .44, .40, 9mm and .38.  It's not bad ammo either.  Farily consistant.  Just not in my caliber...yet.  I have a 7.62x25 pistol.  I buy by the 2500 round case.

C'ya!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 02, 2009, 11:10:06 pm
Took a walk along the train tracks and discovered maybe a ton of coal that had spilled out of open-topped rail cars.  It could keep someone from freezing to death if the utilities are disrupted. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Wyomiles on April 03, 2009, 12:05:53 am
McClarinJ, do they let you get in along side the tracks and pick it up?  Here in the west where I am from ,the UP folks run you off .
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 03, 2009, 09:51:56 pm
Learning to rotate some of my stored foods.  I put away a case of Yoder's canned bacon recently, so I opened a can to test it and found that it's really good.  May have to buy another case.  I bought it from Emergency Essentials, but I think most storage food suppliers carry it these days.

Next up for testing: Mountain House freeze dried seafood chowder mix.  I think it's versatile - can be used as a soup, or as a sauce/flavor enhancer for bland meals.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 04, 2009, 12:28:40 am
McClarinJ, do they let you get in along side the tracks and pick it up?  Here in the west where I am from ,the UP folks run you off .

They might have run me off if they had noticed me, or maybe not. The tracks are behind where I work and I have gone down there many times but never encountered a rail employee.  It is actually a train yard that often has no trains or rail cars sitting in it, at least at the end I visit.  I know there is a coal-fired power plant about 40 miles to the north and I presume that's where the coal is headed.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on April 04, 2009, 01:17:25 am
Then grab and go. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on April 04, 2009, 03:54:23 am
Cosco had food storage racks, the type with the slanted shelves so your stock can be automatically rotated.  I am now set for food (cannned) racks.  The shelves had "regular" thru the big #10 can sizes.  I now only have to build ones for the mason jars.  Does anyone know where I can find plans for  mason jar racks?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 04, 2009, 08:14:19 am
While waiting at the counter at the local wal-mart to see if they had any new ammo in, there was a guy looking at the knives.  He made a comment to his girlfriend about how no one really needed a gun unless they were hunters.  She responded something to the effect about killing poor Bambi.  I really couldn't help myself and let out a soft Baaaa.... sheep sound.  The two guys on either side of me responded with 'Yep', and 'Hope your stocking up on ammo, cuz it's gonna get real bad'.  I don't know either of these two, but it was sure good to get a response showing that others may have some sort of clue. 

As the ammo has been really hard to find around here, I'm working on Sleeping bags, water purifiyer, updating my camp gear.  Amazing how much stuff is on backorder for an economy that is going under :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 04, 2009, 01:52:12 pm
Cosco had food storage racks, the type with the slanted shelves so your stock can be automatically rotated.  I am now set for food (cannned) racks.  The shelves had "regular" thru the big #10 can sizes.  I now only have to build ones for the mason jars.  Does anyone know where I can find plans for  mason jar racks?

If by Mason jar racks you mean one that auto rotates like the can racks, don't.  Mason jars can be weird sometimes and I've had them break with a small bump. the next one you can drop on the floor with no ill effect. Your best bet is just regular old wooden shelves with well marked jars so they are easy to rotate.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 04, 2009, 05:11:19 pm
Today was a setting of the mind day to prepare. I am seeing how big the chasium between us and them, me and thee, left and right, ect......
Did lots of praying for guidance I am so lost and scared and befuddled by the mind set of the kool aid drinkers..............

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on April 04, 2009, 05:17:30 pm
Bought a carboy to make apfelwein (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/man-i-love-apfelwein-14860/), which is apparently what pretentious home-brewers call apple wine. Differs from hard cider in that it's made from juice instead of cider.

Mama, if you're looking for something to make at home, nothing could be easier than this recipe. You can make 5 gallons for about $20 using store-bought ingredients, which makes it about the cheapest homemade wine recipe out there--as you can see by how far it predominates over every other type in the wine-making forum (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on April 04, 2009, 05:41:59 pm
Today was a setting of the mind day to prepare. I am seeing how big the chasium between us and them, me and thee, left and right, ect......
Did lots of praying for guidance I am so lost and scared and befuddled by the mind set of the kool aid drinkers..............



Deep breath  MsSage  .... get a cuppa tea or coffee whatever .... then pick somebody here and PM them to chat.
I for one would be more than happy to chat about the weather, the new litter of kittens in the barn [if you have a barn and a female cat, etc], whatever ....

First thing to know is that by being here and being able to "see" the differences means that your "battle" is nearly won already.
Second thing is all the laws and regulations and edicts and all the rest of that BS doesn't really mean diddley in the real world.
Don't any of these power damaged fools remember Charlemagne and the Tide ?
History has such Great teaching tools and so many power damaged parasites don't listen ....

"Power is Illusory"
It appears to be something it is not and it really gets its actual power from the people that will accept it as it pretends to be.

IF you don't accept it and make a plan for moving out of its "reach" then it only has the power over You that You give it.

This is probably pretty confusing so I'll quit. 
Just remember "we" are Here for you .... just ask or reach out ....

Stay Safe,

gooch
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 04, 2009, 07:55:40 pm
While waiting at the counter at the local wal-mart to see if they had any new ammo in, there was a guy looking at the knives.  He made a comment to his girlfriend about how no one really needed a gun unless they were hunters.

I mostly hunt plastic pop bottles.  They're elusive and rather tricksy.  Sometimes you can kill them easily with a .22 and other times you have to shoot them multiple times with something much larger, like a FAL chambered for 7.62x51mm NATO or a .41 Magnum or something.  I also hunt paper, usually with bolt action rifles or T/C Contenders.  It's elusive, though.  Can't get closer than about 100 yards until you've shot it 15 or 20 times.

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She responded something to the effect about killing poor Bambi.

Bambi is tasty.  So was his father.  Thumper is also nummy.

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I really couldn't help myself and let out a soft Baaaa.... sheep sound.  The two guys on either side of me responded with 'Yep', and 'Hope your stocking up on ammo, cuz it's gonna get real bad'.  I don't know either of these two, but it was sure good to get a response showing that others may have some sort of clue.

I was at a local Wally World...last week, I think?  Maybe the week before.  Anyway, I was at the ammo counter waiting for someone to show up so I could get some .22 ammo, which they actually had, and I got to talking to another guy that was also back there, but he was checking prices and availability.  He asked what happened to everything and I explained to him that ammo and all other things gun related have been harder to come by since Obama got erlected.  I also explained to him that had he been looking at that very same ammo cabinet a mere two months prior, he'd have seen a completely empty cabinet, as there was absolutely no ammo of any caliber to be had at that particular Wal-Mart.

Aside aside, though, what I did to prepare today was I went to the gun show and walked my legs sore (call it "exercise" if you want) and bought 2 Mini-14 magazines.  Doesn't sound glamorous, I know, but I bought 1 20 round and 1 30 round mag, both made by John Masen.  I've got a couple of Masen 10-round Mini-14 mags that I'm happy with, but I've read mixed reviews of their 30s and didn't even know they made 20s, so I figured one of each to test out would be sufficient.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 05, 2009, 12:09:54 am
Been working the dehydrator pretty hard lately.  Tomatoes, onions, carrots, homemade vegetable broth and such.  Current project is spinach.  Now, spinach leaves won't reconstitute with any quality, but I'm drying it to a very brittle state, and then crushing it to a powder.  Seems like it would be a very nutritious addition to soups, stews, and casseroles.  Several bunches of spinach dry down to a very small and lightweight amount of powder, so a little should go a long way.  I'll let you know how it works when I try it in recipes.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 05, 2009, 08:42:55 am
I like that idea.  Maybe I'll try the same thing with chard this summer.  I had more chard that I could use last year and I refuse to can it (plus no freezer space) so there might be a place for chard powder in my future :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on April 05, 2009, 08:46:14 am
mmmmmmmm, spinach!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf7PXtWK9TU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DMP2wude0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8FzoBMViw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsJ6NRLlB6w&feature=related
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 05, 2009, 11:09:00 am
I like that idea.  Maybe I'll try the same thing with chard this summer.  I had more chard that I could use last year and I refuse to can it (plus no freezer space) so there might be a place for chard powder in my future :laugh:

Sounds like a plan.  A further note, though, if you're going to dry greens.  The book I read said to blanch the greens to just barely wilted before drying.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 05, 2009, 11:12:24 am
mmmmmmmm, spinach!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf7PXtWK9TU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DMP2wude0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8FzoBMViw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsJ6NRLlB6w&feature=related

Cute!  Amazing what you can find on YouTube these days.   :laugh:  Thanks for the memories.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on April 05, 2009, 11:35:43 am
Been working the dehydrator pretty hard lately.  Tomatoes, onions, carrots, homemade vegetable broth and such.  Current project is spinach.  Now, spinach leaves won't reconstitute with any quality, but I'm drying it to a very brittle state, and then crushing it to a powder.  Seems like it would be a very nutritious addition to soups, stews, and casseroles.  Several bunches of spinach dry down to a very small and lightweight amount of powder, so a little should go a long way.  I'll let you know how it works when I try it in recipes.

On that thread about making AppleJack, the Blogger had the best Idea I've seen for greens or herbs.

Make Pesto with it, even spinach or chard would work, and it should keep for a very long time and pesto can be used for everything from pasta sauce to a really great chip dip.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on April 05, 2009, 07:10:32 pm
mmmmmmmm, spinach!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf7PXtWK9TU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DMP2wude0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha8FzoBMViw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsJ6NRLlB6w&feature=related

Cute!  Amazing what you can find on YouTube these days.   :laugh:  Thanks for the memories.

You're welcome!

I especially like the last one, which shows Bluto waiting for Popeye to throw away his spinach.  I think of it any time someone starts pissing and moaning about gun ownership, and how we should all surrender our guns to the "authorities".
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on April 08, 2009, 03:00:44 am
Hit a wee bit of a coup today.Got 24cns of Pedigree dog food dated ta 2011 for .25cts a can.I know the grocery stores grocery manager and he hooked me up. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on April 08, 2009, 04:43:03 am
Ordered a nice gardening container from earthbox.com.  Current plans are to grow green peppers, broccoli and peas.  Now if this darn Michigan weather would cooperate...  it was 20 degrees this morning!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on April 08, 2009, 06:20:01 pm
Forty pounds of beans. To go with the rice I got earlier.  :laugh: And more BBQ sauce.  :laugh: :laugh:
Kirgi, send me swome of that dog food !
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on April 08, 2009, 08:40:04 pm
I finally got to the deer hide that was sitting in the shed all winter.  Soaking off the hair now.
It doesn't smell nice.  :angry:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 08, 2009, 08:43:58 pm
This afternoon I got to know one of my neighbors better. The guy has skills out the wazoo.
I took a six pack of home brew over to his place and we shot the sh!t for a few hours. I am
slowly growing the circle of local people who are good to know and can be counted on to
watch my six.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mr. Dare on April 08, 2009, 08:47:36 pm
I finally got to the deer hide that was sitting in the shed all winter.  Soaking off the hair now.
It doesn't smell nice.  :angry:
   That's not good. I have tanned a deer hide before and it shouldn't be a smelly job at all. If it's started to "turn", best to dispose of it and get a fresh hide. If you want to press on, consider wearing cloves and wash your hands thoroughly after handling it so as not to get any infections. Also a rotten hide won't make very good buckskin anyway. It will be weak and will not hold up well. What tanning process are you using?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on April 08, 2009, 09:02:54 pm
I was planning to brain or egg tan it.  The brain was a little messy, but not smelly.
I am hopefull because it was still partly frozen maybe I can trim it.  The hair was slipping is some places but not others.
It was the project of three years to get this one hide.  It was just too cold when I got it to go to work right away.  I only know one hunter and he missed his deer two years in a row.
I have had to work this week too. :( Stupid day job.  I am too busy for it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Howard on April 09, 2009, 01:34:31 am
Today I ordered 20 five gallon food grade plastic buckets, 24 five-to-six gallon mylar bags, a mess of oxygen absorbers and a sturdy grain mill. It's not a massive amount of food storage, but I'd reckon it a fair start, finally.

In a day or so after the containers are on their way it'll be time to order stuff to put IN the containers. Any suggestions for diversifying my post - SHTF diet?

have you done any cooking from scratch?  The very basic, but very durable foods that store well, will require that knowledge.  I am constantly trying weird stuff, simply because I will learn how to doctor up some "flavors" aside from the plain wheat, rice, and beans (with dashes of veggies and meat maybe) that is the long term storage diet.  It will give you and idea on what long term spices or herb garden stuff you will also want to have on hand.  It also will promote rotation, which is a necessity for any kind of real preparedness.  If you have the land, figure out where and how much you can use for a real garden, learn to grow, preserve, and store what to like to eat.

I have found that I like fresh stuff when it is in season, and preserved versions of the same in the off season. so what do you like besides big macs and microwaveable hot wings?  Can it be stored, and for how long?  I have a lot of preprepared caned goods like ravioli, tortellini, beef stew, corned beef, and other "flavorful" stuff that can be used along with the plain stuff as "flavor extenders" or breaks from the fairly plain base ingredients.  I have tried to stick to stuff that is better mixed with the stored basics tho'.  Chili, corned beef, canned chicken and beef, etc. that can mix with rice and beans.  Cinnamon, dried milk, salt, dried onion, garlic, pepper, and other seasonings to punch everything up to some extent.  There are some #10 cans of "mom's sausage seasoning" which is actually a family recipe seasoning mix that I actually have canned up as a premixed item.

Learn to eat plain and non-processed as much as possible- and when you find the plain stuff you like, store the ingredients.  I like banana bread, I have enough dried bananas and walnuts stashed to last me quite a while now.  It is too bad that the yellow banana that we see in the grocery stores are an endangered crop.  The current ones are all clones and vulnerable to a disease that is gradually wiping them out.  I am going to be growing several different kinds of each fruit, berry, and vegetable/ nut. once my gulch is properly set up.

Pardon the long delay in my reply, por favor. Hey, in the interim, my buckets have arrived! Yay!

As for cooking from scratch, no, I haven't done any, but intend to start as soon as the first of the grain arrives. The herb garden, while not spectacular, should keep me creative for a while, and there's a bit of marsh not far from the house that could serve admirably as a post-SHFT vegetable garden. Just a matter of getting a few species established there now, that'll be a project for this summer. Need to get a variety of seeds to try out. I figure that would be my best bet for keeping veggies in my diet, as irrigating the garden around the house could be very difficult post-SHTF. The idea of trying out a small patch of barley or wheat, plus flax had crossed my mind. Planning on getting some seeds to experiment with. Plus, I'll have to figure out some suitable form of crop rotation if I go the wheat/barley farming rout. Peas and string beans could serve for nitrogen fixing maybe?

Using canned foodstuffs to enhance the flavor of more bland things reminds me of mom's polenta (corn meal mush.) She can fix a bunch of different ways and they all taste different and delicious! In fact, you could make a three course meal of the stuff. Fried polenta and meat loaf, followed up with a bowl of polenta and pasta sauce, topped off with polenta with cream and sugar for dessert! I suppose something similar could be pulled off with a mush of wheat or barley meal. This'll be something else to try when more supplies get here. Bulk quantities of salt shouldn't be a problem, just getting around to looking at bulk spices. Salt has a multitude of uses, but other spices might have to take a back seat for a little bit.

Thanks for all the good ideas Rarick, there's a lot to think about there!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 09, 2009, 05:55:06 pm
Inventoried and organized SHTF inventory.  Made a list of what I really need to get caught up.  Tuned up my compound bow.  Sorted and organized my BOB.  Have a new sleeping bag should be here today.

Needed to figure out where I was short.  Been putting this off.... one of those dreaded chores.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mr. Dare on April 09, 2009, 08:44:55 pm
I was planning to brain or egg tan it.  The brain was a little messy, but not smelly.
I am hopefull because it was still partly frozen maybe I can trim it.  The hair was slipping is some places but not others.
It was the project of three years to get this one hide.  It was just too cold when I got it to go to work right away.  I only know one hunter and he missed his deer two years in a row.
I have had to work this week too. :( Stupid day job.  I am too busy for it.
Brain Tanning works really good, never tried egg tanning though. You may indeed be able to trim off the bad parts if the whole thing isn't spoiled. Let us know how it comes out! One word of advice from experience... when the finished hide looks and feels dry, it probably isn't, keep going! :rolleyes: Any slightly damp spots will revert to stiff raw hide. You can re soak it and break it again, so it won't be a total loss, just a lot more work. The best way to tell when it is dry is that it no longer feels the least bit cool to the touch. Not even a little bit. A warm sunny day helps a lot, I tried one on an overcast day once, and after 5 hours of breaking I still had a few spots that went back to raw hide.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare? Wheat free, may be of interest to amagi
Post by: Lisa Aenne on April 09, 2009, 11:46:23 pm
While grocery shopping for some staples, I discovered our local grocery is offering whole bags of items (mainly rices and oat products, but it was greatly picked over).  I noticed 1 25# bag of Bob's Red Mill White Rice flour, and it was $19.49 for the bag.  That's a little less than $.78 a pound.  White rice flour is often the main base flour of gluten free baking mixes, and the small bags of those mixes are often expensive.  I put that puppy in my shopping cart!!!

I looked up a #25 bag of the same flour on the Bob's Red Mill website and the same size bag goes for $21.50, plus shipping. I am really excited that I'll be able to make a lot of things that I can eat, too, on a more affordable level.  I try and eat as little wheat as possible because it causes me to have allergy and inflammation issues.  I grind my own millet, oats, tapioca, flax and barley , which I can add to the white rice flour, along with the special treat garbanzo bean and spelt flour I purchase on occasion.  I look forward to the day that I have a better grain grinder, so I can grind my own bean flours, too!!! I can also mix in potato starch.  The combinations are endless.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on April 10, 2009, 11:36:30 am

Bean flour .... ?  Who'd a thunk it ?

You see how much I learn here  .... ?

I am sometimes astounded at the depth and breadth of the collected knowledge available here.
Now IF I could find out how to "trade" devastatingly handsome for mildly wealthy I'd be all set ....    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 10, 2009, 11:43:57 am
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Now IF I could find out how to "trade" devastatingly handsome for mildly wealthy I'd be all set ....    rolleyes

Thats easy gooch, all ya gotta do is move to hollywood and become a "star".
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on April 10, 2009, 11:57:30 am
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Now IF I could find out how to "trade" devastatingly handsome for mildly wealthy I'd be all set ....    rolleyes

Thats easy gooch, all ya gotta do is move to hollywood and become a "star".

BUT .... But they will expect me to get up out of my La Zee Dude (TM) and actually move around and stuff right ?

Gosh that sounds like a Bunch of work to me .... where did the TV Guide(TM) go ? Is there any Pizza left ?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mr. Dare on April 10, 2009, 12:36:32 pm
   You could play one of those "arm chair" sitcom dads without moving around too much... :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on April 10, 2009, 01:49:11 pm
   You could play one of those "arm chair" sitcom dads without moving around too much... :laugh:

I'm on it  .... as soon as I figure out how to get out .... of ....  this ....  thing ....

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on April 10, 2009, 05:44:18 pm
Was in Wal-Mart today and couldn't resist a tour of the gardening section. They were just unloading  fruit plants, so I got a blueberry bush and 3 strawberry plants. Next week will get another blueberry(read the label which said to get 2) and I think I've talked myself into getting some raspberry plants. Twist my arm! Woot!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on April 10, 2009, 06:39:29 pm
Egg tanning is brain tanning.  You just use egg yolks instead of brain.  The guy I talked to though you could do a whole deer with one yolk, but two would be easier.  Mix with a little water and use as usual.

Thanks for the breaking tips.  Books try to warn me, but it sinks in better comming from a real person.

Got my fleshing beam mostly put together today.  I'll need a little help as the log is HEAVY.

Planted peas, potatoes and spinach today as well. Potatoes are in tires with straw on top.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Canadian Mamma on April 10, 2009, 08:19:52 pm
Was in Wal-Mart today and couldn't resist a tour of the gardening section. They were just unloading  fruit plants, so I got a blueberry bush and 3 strawberry plants. Next week will get another blueberry(read the label which said to get 2) and I think I've talked myself into getting some raspberry plants. Twist my arm! Woot!

When I first moved out to the edge of a village, from the "big city", I thought it was quaint that I had wild raspberry bushes in the yard backing onto a farmers field. We enjoyed them a lot. first time I had ever eaten something that grew on my own land. But did you know those things TRAAAAvel all over the place like weeds if you don't keep them contained? My best berries are now growing about 100 feet from where they originaly snuck into the yard.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on April 11, 2009, 02:47:57 am
I just started a new project on an auctioned off McMansion.  The old owner apparently made preparations for a Y2K sort of situation and apparently wrote off the whole package of house, property and contents.  I guess he had enough stuff elsewhere...........  The new owner has more money than he knows what to do with, and while he is making smart purchases, he is more of a party metroboy type than anything else.  Bottom line is he doesn't want those evil gunpowder things or even think of the type of disaster that would force him to eat the wheat rice and stuff stored.  Since he is totally ignorant of "that stuff" he is giving it to us free, and the storage closet would make an awesome sauna/steam room since it is air/water tight. That contractor will fix the dangeous air tight feature, but the steam room is going in........

We are in the habit of leaving stickers or business cards out of sight, but findable on our installs, and Harry worked on this one 15 years ago.  The system is still working, and Mr. Metro liked the fact and wants us to do an update (3 tube projection screen upgraded to a 60" plasma or better in size. and a "full on" THX with a much more compact multi-remote).  Our work speaks for itself, and this is the third customer we have gotten from this avenue of " time capsule advertising".


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on April 11, 2009, 08:10:40 am
When I first moved out to the edge of a village, from the "big city", I thought it was quaint that I had wild raspberry bushes in the yard backing onto a farmers field. But did you know those things TRAAAAvel all over the place like weeds if you don't keep them contained? My best berries are now growing about 100 feet from where they originaly snuck into the yard.
Thanks for the tip. I will have to make efforts to contain them since I can't really put them at any distance from the house or the plant predators will make fast work of them.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 11, 2009, 01:47:49 pm
When I first moved out to the edge of a village, from the "big city", I thought it was quaint that I had wild raspberry bushes in the yard backing onto a farmers field. But did you know those things TRAAAAvel all over the place like weeds if you don't keep them contained? My best berries are now growing about 100 feet from where they originaly snuck into the yard.
Thanks for the tip. I will have to make efforts to contain them since I can't really put them at any distance from the house or the plant predators will make fast work of them.


So prey on the plant predators.  A .22 will make short work of most critters that will come in and eat your fruits, veggies, and berries, which not only protects those food stuffs, but also adds meat and fur to your stocks.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on April 11, 2009, 05:44:01 pm
When I first moved out to the edge of a village, from the "big city", I thought it was quaint that I had wild raspberry bushes in the yard backing onto a farmers field. But did you know those things TRAAAAvel all over the place like weeds if you don't keep them contained? My best berries are now growing about 100 feet from where they originaly snuck into the yard.
Thanks for the tip. I will have to make efforts to contain them since I can't really put them at any distance from the house or the plant predators will make fast work of them.


So prey on the plant predators.  A .22 will make short work of most critters that will come in and eat your fruits, veggies, and berries, which not only protects those food stuffs, but also adds meat and fur to your stocks.
There are a couple of drawbacks to that plan. 1) I'm feeding some deer in case we do come to want to eat them, so how do you teach deer to discriminate?  2) It'd be a full time job to keep after the chipmunks, ground squirrels, regular squirrels, rabbits, deer, coyotes and an occaisional bear. We have acquired a 'barn' cat and I'm hoping the smaller critters will succumb to his attentions. I also read somewhere to empty his litter box around the perimiter as deterrent so I've started doing that around the beds I'm prepping. So, for now, I'm keeping the growing areas in near the house, even if I have to climb thru a botanical jungle to get in and out.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 11, 2009, 06:29:52 pm
I don't know how much space you need to protect but you may want to try the scarecrow.

http://www.critterridders.com/scarecrow.htm

It's a motion sensor sprinkler head that activates for a short time when a critter gets to close to your valuables. They are kinda pricey at 90 bucks each but I don't think thats allot compared to the aggravation of constant garden invasion. If you need to cover a larger area they could be strung down a line of hose. That website also sells just about any repellent for just about any critter that is giving you a hassle so there are other alternatives as well.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: ZooT_aLLures on April 11, 2009, 07:55:16 pm
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1) I'm feeding some deer in case we do come to want to eat them, so how do you teach deer to discriminate?

mothballs and shiny sparkley and noisy mobiles........
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on April 12, 2009, 12:14:21 am
Dogs are cheap for all they do.

amended:  Okay, Newfoundlands are not all that useful in this context, but no greater love can by shown by a canine.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on April 12, 2009, 02:18:47 am
I just started a new project on an auctioned off McMansion.  The old owner apparently made preparations for a Y2K sort of situation and apparently wrote off the whole package of house, property and contents.  I guess he had enough stuff elsewhere...........  The new owner has more money than he knows what to do with, and while he is making smart purchases, he is more of a party metroboy type than anything else.  Bottom line is he doesn't want those evil gunpowder things or even think of the type of disaster that would force him to eat the wheat rice and stuff stored.  Since he is totally ignorant of "that stuff" he is giving it to us free, and the storage closet would make an awesome sauna/steam room since it is air/water tight. That contractor will fix the dangeous air tight feature, but the steam room is going in........

We are in the habit of leaving stickers or business cards out of sight, but findable on our installs, and Harry worked on this one 15 years ago.  The system is still working, and Mr. Metro liked the fact and wants us to do an update (3 tube projection screen upgraded to a 60" plasma or better in size. and a "full on" THX with a much more compact multi-remote).  Our work speaks for itself, and this is the third customer we have gotten from this avenue of " time capsule advertising".




Note to Metroboy:  You Twit!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on April 12, 2009, 02:32:52 am
I just started a new project on an auctioned off McMansion.  The old owner apparently made preparations for a Y2K sort of situation and apparently wrote off the whole package of house, property and contents.  I guess he had enough stuff elsewhere...........  The new owner has more money than he knows what to do with, and while he is making smart purchases, he is more of a party metroboy type than anything else.  Bottom line is he doesn't want those evil gunpowder things or even think of the type of disaster that would force him to eat the wheat rice and stuff stored.  Since he is totally ignorant of "that stuff" he is giving it to us free, and the storage closet would make an awesome sauna/steam room since it is air/water tight. That contractor will fix the dangeous air tight feature, but the steam room is going in........
We are in the habit of leaving stickers or business cards out of sight, but findable on our installs, and Harry worked on this one 15 years ago.  The system is still working, and Mr. Metro liked the fact and wants us to do an update (3 tube projection screen upgraded to a 60" plasma or better in size. and a "full on" THX with a much more compact multi-remote).  Our work speaks for itself, and this is the third customer we have gotten from this avenue of " time capsule advertising".
Note to Metroboy:
http://sharetv.org/images/courage_the_cowardly_dog/thecomputer-simonprebble-char.jpg

That is awesome !


Today, I scouted out a newer bug-out vehicle which may be better suited to the task. And started formulating a plan to swing it financially. (paying cash) More to follow.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: macman2k on April 12, 2009, 08:35:14 pm
Today I put in fence posts around my garden to keep the dear away. 

I started thinking about health insurance, and because I am a new member thought I would post to this thread.   My thinking goes something like this:

1) Everything is a risk
2) Health assurance (staying fed) in light of the coming world wide collapse is something I must prepare for
3) If my family faces a major medical emergency between now and when the SHTF, then the doctors/government will still save our life (and we end up in debt)
4) Hyperinflation will eventually (soon) wipe away that medical debt (if it is incurred in the first place)

So, why should I pay $250/month for health insurance when I could use that money to fence in an area for goats to supply my family with milk?  Especially when that health insurance represents my largest monthly bill?  I mean, $250/month spent on medical supplies for TEOTWAWKI would likely be a much better use of that money... thoughts? 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 12, 2009, 08:40:05 pm
I found a source for 20,30 and 55 gallon plastic drums for free.  As many as I want.  Only negative is that they aren't food grade.  Had liquid car wash soap in them previously.  Anyone have a suggestion on how to line these to make them food grade?  They are sealed top barrels with 2 openings. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on April 12, 2009, 09:08:48 pm
I found a source for 20,30 and 55 gallon plastic drums for free.  As many as I want.  Only negative is that they aren't food grade.  Had liquid car wash soap in them previously.  Anyone have a suggestion on how to line these to make them food grade?  They are sealed top barrels with 2 openings. 

TB:

Use them for other purposes. Store packaged things that need containment. Medical supplies, personal items like soaps, and batteries, syringes, gunpowder, caps etc. You can also put foods that are packaged but not pest free. Pasta, Ramon Noodles, bagged lentils or beans etc.

Get food grade for direct contact stuff.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on April 12, 2009, 09:11:40 pm
I found a source for 20,30 and 55 gallon plastic drums for free.  As many as I want.  Only negative is that they aren't food grade.  Had liquid car wash soap in them previously.  Anyone have a suggestion on how to line these to make them food grade?  They are sealed top barrels with 2 openings. 

I don't think you can  make them food-grade, but you can still use them. I use non food-grade buckets for storing food, but not bulk food directly in contact with the plastic itself. As you may know, the diff between FG and non FG is the mold-release agents used to extract the barrel/bucket/whatever from the mold in which it was made. Some agents used on non FG products are toxic. So food should not come in contact with them. I store rice, beans, and other packaged (bagged) foods in my buckets. The food itself does not touch the buckets, so I figure it is safe. Maybe you can find some food-grade plastic bags to line the barrels with. I would think that 1 bag inside of another should work well. Anyway, that's my thoughts. Good luck.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 12, 2009, 09:21:20 pm
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I don't think you can  make them food-grade, but you can still use them.

+1 once they are made they are one OR the other.  You should go to anyplace that bakes cakes. Wal-mart, donut shops and bakers in general. They get their frosting and fondant in 5 gal FG buckets. And for the most part give them away. I got all mine from the wal-mart bakery and a local duncan donuts. I personally wouldn't put any food type items in those barrels even with a liner because not only was the release agent toxic but most likely the soap was too. There are plenty of other non food items that can be stored in them that would not be contaminated.

P.S. Keep in mind that if you get buckets from a deli, some of them had smelly stuff, like pickles in them. Don't put anything that you don't want to smell and taste like pickles in them.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 12, 2009, 10:00:50 pm
I planned on using the plastic drums for mostly non-food items anyway.... just didn't know if there was a way to adapt them for food.   I don't think it will be practical to line them with bags although it is a good idea.  I'll probably use them for other stuff.  Plan to use a couple for collecting rainwater also... plumb them to a drip hose with a valve.

Also got a box of twinkies for free for the food stocks.... should be good for a couple of meals :thrbiggrin:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 12, 2009, 10:37:50 pm
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Plan to use a couple for collecting rainwater also... plumb them to a drip hose with a valve.

My only worry about that is you may end up with toxic rainwater as well. If you use that water in your garden you will poison it, so I would be very careful.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 12, 2009, 10:57:57 pm
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Plan to use a couple for collecting rainwater also... plumb them to a drip hose with a valve.

My only worry about that is you may end up with toxic rainwater as well. If you use that water in your garden you will poison it, so I would be very careful.

The collected rainwater could still be used for non food applications where water might be needed.  Flushing toilets comes to mind.  Water used in the hide tanning process, too, maybe?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on April 13, 2009, 12:47:36 am
Today I put in fence posts around my garden to keep the dear away. 

Now why on Earth do you want to keep your loved ones out of your garden?  After all, are they not helping you to tend the garden, harvest the food, and save the seeds for next year?

or do you mean these critters, which go by the name, DEER:

(http://spidermanironmanwonderwomanhall.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/deer-7561651.jpg)

(sorry to pick nits)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on April 13, 2009, 02:05:26 am
Today I put in fence posts around my garden to keep the dear away. 

Now why on Earth do you want to keep your loved ones out of your garden?  After all, are they not helping you to tend the garden, harvest the food, and save the seeds for next year?

or do you mean these critters, which go by the name, DEER:

http://spidermanironmanwonderwomanhall.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/deer-7561651.jpg

(sorry to pick nits)


Move a wee bit more ta your left.Bang. Dinner is served. Ought 7.

Nice pic DPR. :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jjs72 on April 13, 2009, 09:42:16 am
PIcked up a freeby, this past weekend. Wife and i were out walking our dogs, and past a house that had three Jerry USGI fuel cans. There was also, two threaded spouts, and a jerry can storing bracket which was GI issue. It had the CARC paint on it. Two were made by Blitz, and the 3rd had a USGI stampings on it. Little sign taped on one of them that said, ((FREE!)) SCORE!!, wife thought i was nutz. Just had to clean them up, and will paint them this weekend. One that had the USGI stamping had a little rust in side. I put three to four handfulls of small rocks in it with some water. Shook the heck out of it for about fiteen minutes. That took care of the rust problem, poured out the rocks, and let the can dry. Then put in some fuel above the line where the rust used to be to further stop the rust.  Just have to get some red paint that will match. Just need to find two more jerry can storing brackets. Mount one in my truck and two on the tongue of my utility trailer.

That was the only prep for this past week end.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: macman2k on April 13, 2009, 11:57:17 am
Today I put in fence posts around my garden to keep the dear away. 
(sorry to pick nits)

Consider my nits picked... though you should never underestimate how possessive certain people can be about the care for their garden... I know many people would would love to keep their dear ones out of their garden to prevent them from "messing it up". 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 13, 2009, 12:05:34 pm
Made more beer. (Practice makes perfect! :D )
It's a Belgian style wheat beer with raspberry juice added.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on April 13, 2009, 12:23:14 pm
Made more beer. (Practice makes perfect! :D )
It's a Belgian style wheat beer with raspberry juice added.

Was it extract, partial mash or all grain?

And have you ever tried a 100% wheat beer? Since I have a basement full of wheat, I'm interested in trying that...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 13, 2009, 04:32:57 pm
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Was it extract, partial mash or all grain?

And have you ever tried a 100% wheat beer? Since I have a basement full of wheat, I'm interested in trying that...

6 pounds of wheat malt extract, and 2 pounds of malted wheat grain, for a 5 gallon batch. When I tasted it before bottling,
it seemed a bit thin. Next time I would either add 2 pounds of barley malt or 3 more pounds of wheat malt to give it more body.

Since I was concerned about it being "thin", after I added the 1/4 cup of powdered sugar for the secondary ferment in the
bottle, I also added 1/4 cup of honey. The raspberry puree has given it an odd pink color, but it should taste ok.

Bear



Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on April 13, 2009, 05:08:59 pm
MMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmm....delicious beer ! :occasion14:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on April 13, 2009, 06:53:51 pm
Sold some useless crap paid it on my debt. $800 closer to being free!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on April 13, 2009, 08:55:24 pm
Today I put in fence posts around my garden to keep the dear away. 

Now why on Earth do you want to keep your loved ones out of your garden?  After all, are they not helping you to tend the garden, harvest the food, and save the seeds for next year?

or do you mean these critters, which go by the name, DEER:

http://spidermanironmanwonderwomanhall.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/deer-7561651.jpg

(sorry to pick nits)


Move a wee bit more ta your left.Bang. Dinner is served. Ought 7.

Nice pic DPR. :mellow:


DO NOT MOVE ! ....  head held high, nose in the air, ears cocked in two directions .... this old boy is only nanoseconds from "high tailing it".

Sit still,  breath slowly, don't move, wait .... let him settle back down If he is going to ....

If he puts his head back down or looks in a different direction .... then move ... quickly and quietly

sorry Ought 7  It just sorta slipped out ....   :rolleyes:

nice photo DPR  one of your own ?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on April 14, 2009, 01:52:51 am
I wish it was.  I haven't been deer hunting since I was about 12.  :(
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on April 14, 2009, 04:36:26 am
Sold some useless crap paid it on my debt. $800 closer to being free!!

Awesome! :thumbsup:

Such a great feeling isn't it?  I have $1200 left on college loans then I am debt-free (minus the house, that is next).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on April 15, 2009, 10:13:34 pm
Yea, I was debt free back in 1996, I had a small home and drove junkers. I got a much better job and I bought some land, built a bigger house. Bought nicer cars, furniture, equipment to work the farm, animals, fencing, built ponds and raised the kids. We raised 3 boys and one girl here. I still have two in college and we plan to be out of debt about the time the youngest gets out in three years. From then own I am in the KMA club. I figure I can retire 5 years from now if all goes well. If things are bad I plan to work another 5 until I am 55. If TSHTF I am ready for that too, I can cash in and scratch shit with the chickens, If it is TEOTWAWKI I will circle the wagons and tend to business as needed.

I work everyday toward these goals. The problem with this lifestyle is enjoying the payoff and loosing sight of why. I had a friend that worked his whole life toward raising his family and getting his property like he wanted it. He had chicken and water fowl, ponds, cows, horses, tractors and much, much more. As soon as he retired at 65 he developed cancer and died very soon after. He had a profound statement for me, "I just got my place like I wanted it aand now I am going to die". I have thought alot about that and have decided it does not matter what we own, in 100 years it will belong to someone else. I find myself mowing the lawn and running the weedeater less. I have never seen a two year old weed. I don;t worry as much about what people think, I spend as much time with my close family as possible. I make sure they know they are loved and we plan for our future together, this includes preping for the future.
 "Time for bed" said my oldest grandson. HAHAHA
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on April 16, 2009, 05:20:54 am
As soon as he retired at 65 he developed cancer and died very soon after. He had a profound statement for me, "I just got my place like I wanted it aand now I am going to die". I have thought alot about that and have decided it does not matter what we own, in 100 years it will belong to someone else. I find myself mowing the lawn and running the weedeater less. I have never seen a two year old weed. I don;t worry as much about what people think, I spend as much time with my close family as possible. I make sure they know they are loved and we plan for our future together, this includes preping for the future.
 "Time for bed" said my oldest grandson. HAHAHA

I hear ya.  My mother-in-law passed away less than a year after she retired.  She and my father-in-law had just finished building their 'snow-bird' home down in west Texas and were getting ready to enjoy life.  Sad times for all.  Good luck to you and God bless.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: grits55 on April 16, 2009, 09:08:02 am
My husband worked his entire life, from the Marines at 18, to odd jobs between, then 21 years as a NJ state trooper, then 17 years as a corporate pilot. We ived modestly, saving up for RETIREMENT. We waited and waited and waited for everything to change upon RETIREMENT. When he did,  at 60 ( pilots must at that age) we sold the NJ place and moved a few hundred miles away to our RETIREMENT paradise.  Before we even got the house decorated, he was killed in a car accident five miles  from our house.  We had exactly 16 months of freedom.  LIVE YOUR LIVES NOW...now is all that we have!

That being said,  I try to do anything I can , every day, to make tommorow more secure, just in case I live to see it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 17, 2009, 12:59:26 am
I decided to NOT buy six 80-Watt solar electric panels, six AGM 110 Ah batteries, and two charge controllers (one as backup). 

I looked at my finances, the uncertainty of how my new business (http://www.preparednessequipment.com) will do, the need to capitalize new products in my small business, the possible need to seek full-time employment (I have an interview for Tuesday), my uncertainty of landing a job, three big bills I'll need to pay, my dwindling savings...

Life is a crap shoot and we know we can't have it all.  It may be that the solar electric setup would be the best investment I could make (what if an EMP event wiped out the power grid next month?), or it may be that using that money developing my business would be the best path to survival success, allowing me to buy the system later when the business revenue is healthier.  You don't know and I don't know, but I gambled on the latter.

The same may be said for any survival purchase.  There is no end to how much we could prepare if we had the money.  I might like a dozen mile-deep nuclear-powered Earth cataclysm shelters scattered around so I could take quick refuge on any continent, but it would take more than winning Powerball to fund even one.

As it is I have a small 30-Watt solar electric panel, a small charge controller, two deep-cycle batteries, and a 3kw inverter, plenty to allow me to power the small stuff and even do some very limited direct-current welding.  I already have loads of stored food, guns, lots of ammo, buried gold and silver, and way, way more.  I just decided to put off this one survival prep splurge, and that might have been the best survival decision I could make today.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 17, 2009, 01:43:35 am
what if an EMP event wiped out the power grid next month?

What if your business tanks, the full time job doesn't come through, and you suddenly can't afford to pay your bill for grid power anymore?  If we're playing the "What if?" game, might as well hit both sides, right?

I took an inventory of the ammo I have stored on hand (not counting what's loaded in magazines or laying loose on various tables and not counting any .22 LR) yesterday and helped my dad do the same with his today.  I was both impressed by what we had and disappointed in what we didn't.

Also found some projectiles I thought I had used all of and some brass that is just waiting for propellant and projectile, so this weekend may well be spent loading some more ammo.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on April 17, 2009, 04:02:52 am
Raw Cowboy,I like it. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 17, 2009, 05:45:19 am
This was yesterday for yall but since I have yet to go to bed its still today LOL
S/O picked up my 357 rifle and found out the 1000 rounds of 38 are on their way.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on April 17, 2009, 06:09:58 am
Bought a book about small engine repair.  I can change fluids, spark plugs and filters but the thought of tearing an engine apart is daunting.  Time to learn!  Who knows, I may have to hire someone to mow my lawn this summer. ^_^
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 17, 2009, 08:50:03 am
Finished what I feel is the final version of my BOB... just waiting for the weather to play nice so I can take a few day jaunt in the mountains and figure out if it is really done.  Got my son involved in a shooting club... need to hone his skills too.  Can't do it all alone.  Gave my car a tune up (nothing worse than having to get out of dodge and be stuck due to poor maintenance).  Got my lead smelter and dies.  Going to try my hand at casting.  I've been gathering all the lead I can every time I shoot at the range.  Have about 50 lbs so far.  I'll just keep doing this and convert to ingots.  Still need to get a hardness tester to label the ingots.  Adding a sight system to my compound bow today.  Nothing like a quiet, reusable varmint killer.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 17, 2009, 10:16:06 am
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This was yesterday for yall but since I have yet to go to bed its still today LOL
S/O picked up my 357 rifle and found out the 1000 rounds of 38 are on their way.

Is this a Marlin 1894-C ? Sounds like my rifle. My only complaint with it is that I found
that the stock iron sights put the bullet a little to the right, and there is no left/right
adjustment. As soon as the snow melts, I'll sight  in the scope I had mounted on it
at Cabellas.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on April 17, 2009, 12:51:11 pm
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This was yesterday for yall but since I have yet to go to bed its still today LOL
S/O picked up my 357 rifle and found out the 1000 rounds of 38 are on their way.

Is this a Marlin 1894-C ? Sounds like my rifle. My only complaint with it is that I found
that the stock iron sights put the bullet a little to the right, and there is no left/right
adjustment. As soon as the snow melts, I'll sight  in the scope I had mounted on it
at Cabellas.

Bear



Bear. the left/right adjustment on those sights is accomplished by using a brass punch and "drifting" the rear sight in the appropriate direction. Remember that on a rear sight it is the opposite of the direction you want to go. Thus to move your point of aim to the right the sight moves to the left.

Also when I had my Marlin .45-70 I replaced the rear sight with a Williams receiver sight (http://www.williamsgunsight.com/) Fully adjustable and real quick target acquisition. I never got around to putting on the fiber optic front sight before I sold the gun but it would make a nice addition. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 17, 2009, 02:23:28 pm
No its a Puma 8 + 1 357 Magnum w/16" Round Barrel/Blue Finish. Marlins were backordered and not sure when they would be back instock.
Did some research and found alot of good reviews and Puma is a Rossi product. I cant wait to shoot it, just not sure when that will be right now :angry:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 17, 2009, 03:16:49 pm
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No its a Puma 8 + 1 357 Magnum w/16" Round Barrel/Blue Finish. Marlins were backordered and not sure when they would be back instock.
Did some research and found alot of good reviews and Puma is a Rossi product. I cant wait to shoot it, just not sure when that will be right now

That's funny -- we originally wanted to get a Puma, but they were out of stock and distributor couldn't give the store any idea when they would be available again, so we bought the Marlin!    :dontknow:

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 17, 2009, 07:18:44 pm
No its a Puma 8 + 1 357 Magnum w/16" Round Barrel/Blue Finish. Marlins were backordered and not sure when they would be back instock.
Did some research and found alot of good reviews and Puma is a Rossi product. I cant wait to shoot it, just not sure when that will be right now :angry:

I've got one of those, but mine is in .45 Colt.  It's a nice gun, reasonably accurate, and will feed LSWC bullets, whereas my Marlin in .357 Magnum won't (I tried, despite the warning in the manual, turns up, it breaks the gun).

Don't be bashful about working the lever.  They're a top eject, and if you work the lever too slow, they won't eject properly.  Odds are, you're not going to break it working the lever.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on April 17, 2009, 08:12:50 pm
I owned a Marlin in .44 Mag a number of years ago.
Mine was outfitted with a hammer extension, a "rifleman" loop, and a 1.5 to 4
Burris low light scope.  If you don't want or can't have a hi cap semi,
they fill a niche - plus the reload on the fly capability.
Light and easy to handle.
I parted with it because in the real world, it was not much more
useable than my Ruger Super Blackhawk w/ 7.5" barrel.
100 yards is about the limit for the cartridge.  Same for .38 or .357.
But Very Effective in its place.  I used it for Dark Timber deer.
Fast action at close range.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on April 18, 2009, 12:04:18 pm
On a roll ... I traded future produce from the garden I will be planting for the money to do the deed.

In my latest trick, I traded a website for the compost and tractor work needed to establish the garden. I get to go visit Mom and my daughters in the primary people's republic of left coast with the frn's thus saved.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 18, 2009, 08:51:20 pm
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Bear. the left/right adjustment on those sights is accomplished by using a brass punch and "drifting" the rear sight in the appropriate direction. Remember that on a rear sight it is the opposite of the direction you want to go. Thus to move your point of aim to the right the sight moves to the left.
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I don't think so.  It may seem counter-intuitive but, since the sights are lined up on your target, moving the rear sight to one side may be alternatively said to be shifting the muzzle in the same direction as the rear sight was moved.  If you have trouble seeing this with a wee little nudge, picture moving the rear sight one foot to the left, then lining the sights up on the target.  Now which direction is the muzzle pointing?  Answer: WAY over to the left.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 18, 2009, 09:41:38 pm
S/O went to the gun show without me......cant get this week off then in 6 weeks get another week off. June is more important so missed the show. He got 5 boxes of .38 & 357 since that was the limit. 100 bullets and brass for 50 cal. Thinking we are set for ammo ..yeah yeah I know never enough but have to finish frist aid and get food stocked up as well.
S/O said the rifle would be the best one for me since its light and easy to shoot. Still waiting and growling I cant get a chance to shoot it yet.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 18, 2009, 10:00:19 pm
- We put in our order of seeds for the vegetable garden.

- Started the process for a living trust* for our daughter, in case TS doesn't HTF and she
   needs to deal with lawyers in the future.

- Will plant my hops rhizomes tomorrow.

Bear

* To put the house in to avoid probate.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on April 18, 2009, 10:30:21 pm
Bought 2 cast iron dutch ovens in prep for the coming depression.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 18, 2009, 11:39:48 pm
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Bought 2 cast iron dutch ovens in prep for the coming depression.

Psycho,

Cast iron is awesome for baking bread, depression or not. :D

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on April 19, 2009, 10:09:51 am
S/O said the rifle would be the best one for me since its light and easy to shoot. Still waiting and growling I cant get a chance to shoot it yet.

Rifles are better than pistols for accuracy and power, but handguns are [excuse me] HANDY.  They can be with you when you need them the most.  The pet phrase being "Use your handgun to fight your way to your rifle".  A .357 revolver shooting .38 ammo [until you are comfortable with .38 +P or .357] is a great choice for a first handgun.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Joel on April 19, 2009, 12:38:32 pm
Spring at last! 

Got my herb garden sets going, in hope of not feeding the local rabbits this time (@#$%!).

Acquired a handle for the nice old axe head I found while walking the dogs in the boonies, cleaned it up and sharpened it, mounted the handle.  Nearly free axe!

Having finished the furnace installation, finally got going on the plumbing in the barn ("Why'd you put up wallboard if you were gonna run plumbing?"  Because, that's why.  Just...because.)

Back's finally getting back to normal after schlepping 1600# of concrete for the piers on Joel's Secret Lair.  Next Step: wreck back again pouring said concrete. (moan)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 19, 2009, 04:13:05 pm
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handguns are [excuse me] HANDY.
Yes they are but when I fell I hurt my back and elbow and now I have trouble shooting a handgun without my wrist dropping.  :angry:
S/O is BACK to the gun show LOL said he didnt feel comfortable with only 5 boxes so he is getting 5 more of 38 & 357. He prob will get more 50 cal as well LOL Yeah I wish he wouldnt spend the money on more ammo BUT if he is bothered by not having enough after saying many many times we had enough ..then follow your gut and get more. Hey I can work more hours LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on April 19, 2009, 10:43:10 pm
I finally salted the deer hide and got the hair off.  It slipped like a dream.  Most of the smell was from a sloppy skinning job.  There was a lot of fat and meat I could peel of with my fingers.  Hope to start fleshing this week.  So far, very forgiving process.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on April 20, 2009, 04:28:23 pm
Yea, we have a kitchen full of cast iron skillets, corn bread pans and pots. We use it alot. I saw a good deal on the dutch ovens for $10 each. I can not use our stainless cookware on my BGE though and want to ensure I have enough of a variety of cast. Neither had been seasoned yet, I plan to do it this weekend if possible.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 20, 2009, 05:51:32 pm
Traded some range brass for some boxes of loaded 40sw.  Gathered my gear (BOB, tactical clothing) together for this next weekend.  Weather is finally nice and I plan to take a simple overnight trip to balance my load, and break in some of the new items I have added (tools are no good if you don't know how to use them). 

The biggest thing I have done was simply talking to a friend who has similar interest in being prepared.  I have suggested that we look into getting our families together as a group if things head south.  He seems interested in the prospect.  I'd much rather have a small group than just a couple of individuals.   This could be the start of a much needed community.  Plan to get together and see what sort of a plan we can come up with that would be beneficial and agreed to by all.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 20, 2009, 10:20:53 pm
Complete NRA Basic Rifle Sunday and signed up for Basic Pistol today.  Bought elbow pads today for practicing prone rifle position.  (Already had knee pads.)  Also picked up and filled a medium-sized knapsack as a backup bug-out bag. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on April 21, 2009, 10:16:21 pm

Last weekend I went with my 10 year old and friend on a road trip to "Manland".  A Sig-Sauer factory sale and then a separate shooting goods store that was only 40km off the route home.

My friend bought a new P220 in .45 (and is selling me his "old" (6 months?) P226 in 9mm).  My son fired his first ever pistol cartridge (9mm from a P226) under close supervision of the range staff.  He hit the paper at 8 yards, high, only about 4 inches off center.  I felt like the parent of the child who just scored the overtime goal in game 7.  Then I put 10 rounds of 9mm into a softball size area of the center in less than 4 seconds on the 226...then with the 226 in .40...then 8 rounds with the .45 .  I got the oddest looks for this..

The second store, my friend picked up all 400 bullets they had for his .223 and 1000 primers.  We have brass.  I found 100 rounds for my .32 ACP ($24.95/50) and another 200 for my .223 ($9.49/20).  They also usually have 7.62x25 for the Tokarev, but were out of stock with more expected in this week.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: insidethebunker on April 21, 2009, 11:20:34 pm
This weekend bought

2 year old plants ready to plant

1 apple tree
1 peach tree
1 pear tree
2 blueberry bushes
2 grapes
2 blackberry's
2 raspberries

20 bags manure
10 bags topsoil

4 each 6" x 2" x 8' extruded fence rails for Square Foot Garden side rails
1 12 foot x 6" PVC (cut in 2' sections) for Square Foot Garden corner post

Now, must get butt out to back yard and plant, plant, plant
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 22, 2009, 01:27:49 pm
Your apple and pear trees will require other apple and pear trees to make them produce fruit.  I think the peach tree will, too, but I'm not sure.

Blackberries will spread, especially if you let the birds get to them.  Others have said that raspberries will too, but I've never had raspberry plants, so I don't know.

Grape vine is some invasive stuff.  If you don't keep it trimmed, it will take over your fences, climb 30+ feet up your trees, and entwine itself in everything so bad that you'll probably never get rid of it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on April 22, 2009, 01:48:01 pm
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Your apple and pear trees will require other apple and pear trees to make them produce fruit.  I think the peach tree will, too, but I'm not sure.

Something to remember is that if your neighbors have apple/pear/peach tress - it is possible to have only one tree of a specific type that could be pollinated by your Neighbors. Also - if you know the variety you have ensure you get a variety that can cross pollinate.

You might also want to find someone who can whip/bud graft. While your little tress are small, you could put on some other local varieties that have shown resistance to the critters/diseases in your area that might knock off leaves/fruit.

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Others have said that raspberries will too, but I've never had raspberry plants, so I don't know.
From your lips to G-ds ears! Our raspberries are working on the entire survival thing vs spreading like mad.

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Grape vine is some invasive stuff.  If you don't keep it trimmed, it will take over your fences, climb 30+ feet up your trees, and entwine itself in everything so bad that you'll probably never get rid of it.

Another reason to stake/plan on how one wants their garden to grow. Try a little arbor where you can focus your attention on strengthening the vine(s). Nothing quite as beautiful as a well tended section of Grape Vines.

Maybe ND will hop in here with some good links - most of my observations come from watching his progress.

Good luck!

Mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on April 22, 2009, 02:19:39 pm
Grape vine is some invasive stuff.  If you don't keep it trimmed, it will take over your fences, climb 30+ feet up your trees, and entwine itself in everything so bad that you'll probably never get rid of it.

For grapes in limited spaces train vines as a "standard" instead of using the "cordon" method. For those is cold climates, the Chinese developed a wonderful method for growing tender grapes. Train vines as a single cordon on a wire about 8" above the ground. In winter, drop the wire down into an adjacent trench and cover with soil/mulch to protect from temperature extremes.

Royal Horticultural Society - Grapes: pruning and training (http://www.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/Profile.aspx?pid=284)

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 23, 2009, 12:24:03 am
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Your apple and pear trees will require other apple and pear trees to make them produce fruit.  I think the peach tree will, too, but I'm not sure.

Something to remember is that if your neighbors have apple/pear/peach tress - it is possible to have only one tree of a specific type that could be pollinated by your Neighbors. Also - if you know the variety you have ensure you get a variety that can cross pollinate.

This is quite true.  Our neighbor to the north has a Blackjack pear tree, same as ours.  For years, if his tree fruited out, ours didn't and vice versa.  Since then, a couple of pear trees has developed into some degree of maturity just across the fence from our pear tree, so ours has fruited out some just about every year.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 25, 2009, 08:19:05 am
Going for my CCW classes today.  Started a small BOB for my car, one that stays in it all the time.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on April 25, 2009, 02:09:54 pm
Today I zeroed in the scope on my Beeman air rifle that I bought a few weeks ago.  I drew a target using some circular items from the recycling bin, then ran off copies on my copier/scanner/printer.  I learned a bit about the penetrating power of this weapon at 25 yds.  I had screwed a half-dozen pieces of heavy corrugated cardboard onto a weathered solid wooden fence onto which I then mounted my paper target.  I shot maybe 30 rounds, all but a few of which penetrated the cardboard and buried themselves in the fence.  I'm glad I didn't decide to mount my target on something more valuable.

Yesterday I ordered a Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 inside-the-waistband, horsehide, concealed-carry holster for my Glock 19. I was fortunately able to find one ready-made for my pistol model, though at a price more than 50% higher than I could get it from the manufacturer. I say fortunately because the lead time at Milt Sparks is about six months and I'm not certain some serious bleep won't start happening before then.

I have had my concealed-carry permit for about a year now in anticipation of the time when civil order breaks down enough to be statistically hazardous. We ain't there yet, but I have been listening to arguments that using one's permit is a civic responsibility since it elevates public safety when responsible citizens are armed. Also, I figured that wearing a concealed weapon in advance of TEOTWAWKI would be good training. It would already be a natural part of my life, allowing more of my attention to be focused on other survival needs during a time of danger.

I have a basic pistol course set for mid-May, to be followed shortly by a defensive pistol course. After that I expect to carry my sidearm regularly, hoping never to use it but ready to do so if needed.

Some days ago I made up a backup BOB for my van. Both BOB's are in the van but I have one locked up inside a fortified compartment since it contains a semi-auto pistol and lots of loaded magazines. Trouble is, it would take at least a minute under best circumstances to unlock the compartment and grab its contents, a lot longer if the van were loaded with stuff that would have to be moved before the compartment door could be opened. You never know when you might have to flee your vehicle in six seconds, not 60.

My backup BOB sits between the driver's and passenger's seats and consists of two parts: a medium-sized knapsack and a good-sized belt pouch, both in camo. I keep them fastened together and covered with a ratty-looking rain poncho. They are also fastened through a loop of heavy tow chain to discourage a snatch & run theft. (Since I know how it's fastened it would take me just a few seconds to undo it.)

The backup BOB contains a lot less preparedness than the one that's locked up but it does contain a few first aid supplies, several days' food, a one-person tent and ground cloth, warm under-layers, insulated mittens, 2 pair socks, rain poncho, a map, cash, two LED head lamps, space blanket, fire-starter, waterproof matches, lots of 100% DEET, a knife, camo cord, knit wool cap and wide-brim cotton hat, water, and other stuff I'm not recalling just now. Oh yes, I have a couple of spray cans of 0.5% permethrin for clothing so I'm not bitten by ticks while barging through the underbrush. My #2 BOB contents will certainly change over time but it's not bad for something quickly assembled.

If it is cold weather, I presume I would have appropriate outer wear in the van to augment what's in the alternate BOB. Also, I expect to begin making use of my concealed carry permit so I would be already armed if I have to flee suddenly with my backup BOB.

I used to not worry about locking my van unless I was going into a store or otherwise leaving it unattended. Now I lock all doors while I am driving. It's not that I'm so worried now, I am simply forming good habits for later when thieves get bolder and more desperate. I can easily imagine pulling up to a stop sign, having someone yank open my rear door, grab something, and take off running. By the time I pulled out of traffic and parked they would be long gone. Worse yet would be someone yanking me out of the driver's side door and driving off with the van (unlikely because I'm good-sized, but possible certainly). I lock that door with my elbow now as soon as I shut the door. Then I unlock The Club from my steering wheel. I put this anti-theft device on the back side of the steering wheel so the key slot faces the dashboard. That way someone equipped with lock-picking or tumbler-yanking tools will have a tougher time of it.

Next: a BOB for the house. I could otherwise be awakened by the screeching tires of my own van being stolen from my driveway and be suddenly BOB-less. Of course it's entirely possible that I could be cut off from both vehicle and house and have to rely on reaching one or more of my buried caches (http://www.preparednessequipment.com).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Limbic on April 25, 2009, 06:24:36 pm
decaped and sized 700 45acp brass, cast 50 0r so lee 452 200 rnfp and, 312-185-1r's changed the medium in my homemade tumbler(hand crank) and quartered the horse raddish roots in my gardenand planted some "other" stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 25, 2009, 06:41:34 pm
LOL went to walmart
10 boxes of 22 stingers
6 bags split peas, 6 of small red kidney beans,personal hygine items, 4 ~4oz bottles curing salt, powder tomatoe base with chicken flavoring.
NOW I have to find some recipies for the powder tomato and how to use the curing salt.
Yeah I know, I am still learning but I am willing and able to learn which is the key.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on April 25, 2009, 07:39:35 pm
Finished my first ccw class today..... One more tomorrow and qualify.  Don't think I'll have any problem.  Teacher is definitely qualified to teach.  I've been shooting for a long while, even doing a little IDPA stuff.  Still learned a few things today that I haven't thought about before.  I will gain a few new good habits from this if nothing else.  Talking with other applicants during the breaks, I picked up a number of good tips for reloading, and vehicle concealment. 

Also going out to the range to shoot, I managed to find a few rounds of brass although it has really become scarce as of late.  Also picked up a couple of pounds of lead from the shooting berms.  I do this every trip and have been melting it for my cast bullets.  In the few trips I've taken lately, I picked up almost 20 lbs.  Not too bad for free with very little effort.  Could be very glad I did this if things continue the way they are going.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rob25 on April 27, 2009, 12:34:18 am
*short story involved*

Saturday morning my worst nightmare came true.. Well, I thought it did.. and it kind of did.

I stumbled out of bed at around 11am after sleeping off a hard night of drinking and mechanical bull riding (no joke) to turn on CNN and see glimpses of the following headlines (still rubbing sleep out of my eyes) stream accross the bottom of the TV: "WHO very, very concerned... Mexico City shut down.. new flu virus containing Avian, Swin and Human genetics.... over 1000 people infected, 23 dead..." you get the point. After about sh*tting my pants I realized that I was about 2800 miles away from ALL of my prep gear, food and water.. and I'm not going home for another 6 months..(doesn't that suck) If I were home, I could easily close my front door and not open for 6 months..

So, that being said.. Today (yesterday now..) I started ALL OVER  :angry:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on April 27, 2009, 01:02:59 am
Started dosing up on the immunity enhancers seriously- part of the breakfast juice now.  If your immune system is good, you might get miserable, but you'll kick its butt.  Also time to be paranoid around the hackers and coughers in public, stay away from them...................  It will pass like the swine flu, just need to take precautions. 

Airborne is what I am using, worked well when I was doing Slot Tech work, with the tourist crud and it should help now.  Since I am out of the Casino I have a lot less exposure to that type of crap.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on April 27, 2009, 08:06:24 am
Started dosing up on the immunity enhancers seriously-
Same here. No reports of flu here in Colorado, but we're ready to hunker down if necessary. Ordered some more masks. That's been on the list for a long time, just needed a bit of motivation to actually do it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rob25 on April 28, 2009, 02:09:25 pm
Mapped out the route home... 2803 miles is a long way..
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 28, 2009, 02:31:26 pm
Ordered a still and started reading about how to make mash.......to have alcohol around for medicinal purposes, of course!  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Thoriz on April 28, 2009, 02:33:09 pm
Made 150 mile round trip to pick up ammo.  The only stuff left in town was really high power revolver or rifle. (.454casull or 7mm Mag type +).

Picked up:
440rd tin of 7.62x54R
1200rds of .22LR

My town of population ~600,000 has almost no ammo.  When the stores get shipments, they don't know what to expect on the truck.  50rd boxes of 9mm, .40SW, and .45ACP are limited to one box per customer.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on April 29, 2009, 05:00:22 am
Started to assemble the Earthbox I ordered for my porch gardening.  My son asked if he could "eat some green beans tomorrow", so I had a little explaining to do.  Gotta love kids.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on April 29, 2009, 07:26:33 am
Good for you Nomads2! Before long you'll be building a bigger one. (More medicine). Lots of great recipes out there, try all you can find. I just distilled a Rasberry bourbon. Not bad. :occasion14:

good luck and have fun
Gypsy
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on April 29, 2009, 08:02:13 am
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: shruggin on April 29, 2009, 10:08:37 am
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on April 29, 2009, 10:26:35 am
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA.

You need a permit from BATF. If the still is to produce alcohol for fuel, it's not a problem (I am told). If you plan
on making drinkable alcohol, then you need to set up with them to pay the tax. In either case, you will be required
to keep careful records of what was produced and when.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on April 29, 2009, 01:00:33 pm
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

The one I bought is here:

http://www.friendlyscripts.com/multistill/default.asp

It also distills water. It is packaged and shipped as a water distiller. :angel:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on April 29, 2009, 01:12:39 pm
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 

Essential oils. Good excuse to plant that 100' x 100' bed of lavender.
Distillation Equipment (http://www.essentialoil.com/index.php?cPath=470&osCsid=49kkkun37eacha6ocb90pgf2f6)

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: shruggin on April 29, 2009, 03:00:58 pm
I stand corrected ;D
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on April 30, 2009, 04:33:19 pm
Thanks for the link ND Cool site
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on April 30, 2009, 05:02:04 pm
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 


BFD
   :wub:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on April 30, 2009, 10:59:28 pm
Bought a camp axe/hatchet/hand axe/whatever else you want to call it.  Got it at Wal-Mart (I get a lot of stuff there).  They had them in packaging that was easy enough to open and re-close (it actually has a snap), so I checked the edge before I decided to buy.  It was surprisingly sharp.  Not "shave with it in lieu of a razor" sharp, but much sharper than I expected it to be.

Also bought a BSA straight 4x scope with 32mm objective and rings and mounted a scope on my RWS Model 52 air gun.  Hopefully the weather will cooperate and let me get it sighted in soon.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on April 30, 2009, 11:51:52 pm
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 

Essential oils. Good excuse to plant that 100' x 100' bed of lavender.
Distillation Equipment (http://www.essentialoil.com/index.php?cPath=470&osCsid=49kkkun37eacha6ocb90pgf2f6)

ND

Some interesting sites for home distillers.
http://homedistiller.org/

http://www.moonshine-still.com/page2.htm

Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 


BFD
:wub:

Dontgetcaugthdoinganythingilegal.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: shruggin on May 01, 2009, 08:24:33 am
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 


BFD
   :wub:

The BFD is that people shouldn't expose the forum owners to some sort of legal action by proposing illegal acts - if it was illegal.  The other part of that is that it is STUPID to mention doing or owning anything that the gubbemit thinks is illegal on a public forum.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 01, 2009, 09:47:37 am
Where can you buy a still??? Interested and motivated.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but last I checked it was still 'illegal' to own/use a still in the USSA. 


BFD
   :wub:

The BFD is that people shouldn't expose the forum owners to some sort of legal action by proposing illegal acts - if it was illegal.  The other part of that is that it is STUPID to mention doing or owning anything that the gubbemit thinks is illegal on a public forum.

I was under the assumption that Hammer was interested in acquiring distillation equipment for the purposes of producing essential oils. There was an expression of interest and motivation on Hammer's part so I immediately thought of the opportunity to make money during this economic downturn by supplying raw materials to local crafters of soaps and lotions. It didn't even occur to me that Hammer would use such equipment for nefarious purposes. I was just trying to be helpful.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on May 01, 2009, 06:27:39 pm
All this talk of distilation had got me interested in alcohol as a fuel.(All perfectly legal.)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/1980-11-01/Brazils-Alcohol-Powered-Cars.aspx

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/meCh1.html#1_1
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 02, 2009, 06:58:57 am
Yesterday I bought three slingshot replacement rubbers w/pouches.  I'll put one one the slingshot and seal the other two in a Mylar bag with a couple O2 absorbers.  I also picked up water treatment tablets for my BOB #2.

I also got a wide, stiff belt for my in-the-waistband (IWB) holster loops, and some sleeveless T-shirts so my holster won't be riding on bare skin.

A few days ago I bought three patterned loose-fitting, straight-cut, buttoned, short-sleeved shirts at the Goodwill store.  These will cover my concealed-carry weapon and the fabric pattern will help hide any "printing" of the gun grip through the fabric.  I rejected one pattern that was especially bold because I figured it would be too obvious I was trying to hide a concealed weapon.  Last week I purchased an essential wardrobe element for IWB, six pair of one-size-larger pants.  I tried to squeeze the holster into my normal size and sure enough it wouldn't fit.

On the swine flu front, I already had a number of particle masks and one painter's respirator with some serious filters but I bought a set of replacement filters for it and a set of protective plastic goggles that have a somewhat softer shield that connects with my face, offering better protection from airborne droplets.  I am supposed to attend a play Sunday and am debating whether to wear this protection. It could be an extraordinary teaching moment through at great risk of appearing ridiculous. There are some swine flu cases already reported in my state.

Hmmm.  Now that I think further about this, it could be a good income moment too.  I can hire a kid to stand around the entrance coughing as people file in for the performance while I stand there with a few dozen masks for sale  ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on May 02, 2009, 07:03:19 am
I appreciate the info on distilling essential oils. It is interesting, but anecdotal information that you can distill alcohol from the distilling process. I have no interest in distilling alcohol.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on May 03, 2009, 11:51:03 pm
Ah. I'm so sorry. Making your own fuel is the only way to go.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on May 04, 2009, 07:18:11 am
There must have been some ammo cut loose on the market recently, as I went to the range today and picked up about 600 rnds brass.  Everything from .308 to .357 mag.  Either that, or the rich folks were having a shooting day and really didn't care.

Prepped an area to start casting bullets.  We'll see how that goes. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 04, 2009, 08:11:26 am
Bought some jars for canning. alos bought some extra lids and rings. I think there is gonna be a shortage of these items this year due to the huge number of people gardening.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 04, 2009, 08:17:46 am
Bought some jars for canning. alos bought some extra lids and rings. I think there is gonna be a shortage of these items this year due to the huge number of people gardening.

Good idea. As an aside - what did you pay? mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 04, 2009, 03:53:56 pm
ordered my surgery kit and sutures. Bought 2 jars of pickling lime and 2 pkgs of bread and butter seasoning.
Looking to get a pressure canner they should be out in the stores by now.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 04, 2009, 04:08:31 pm
Asked the brew shop to order 10#. I'll have to vacu seal once it arrives.
I had been using Mrs. Wages (5oz = $3.69 on sale) for making Mozerella.
While making a 5 gallon batch I had to use 3 tablespoons citric acid which brought to my attention I should find a better priced source soon!

Brew shop is $3.50 a pound - saving about 75%.

Things Citric Acid can be used for:
"useful in sprouting, canning, drying or freezing to preserve Vitamin C content, retard spoilage by bacterial growth, and prevent discoloration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid#The_leaflet_of_Villejuif

mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 04, 2009, 06:20:57 pm
I bought the pint jars at the local Wally World, $6.88 a case. Quarts are a little higher.
Today I planted pumpkin seeds.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 04, 2009, 06:31:13 pm
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Today I planted pumpkin seeds.
Variety? Eating, baking, livestock use? How many? Where? (curious) mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on May 04, 2009, 06:51:21 pm
My favorite pumpkin is a Kabocha, or Japanese  pumpkin.
They are just delicious!
I don't have enough space to grow them, fortunately they are cheap at the local Asian supermarket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabocha
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jjs72 on May 05, 2009, 03:54:40 am
Stopped at a local tire shop today. To see if they had some used lead wheel weights for casting bullets. SCORE!!!  They had a 5  gallon bucket, 3/4 full.  I asked the manager, how much he wanted for it? He said normally get .10 cents a pound. I told him i'll take the whole lot. Probably 125 pounds of wheel weights. I got it for 15.00 bucks.
Got it home and put it on my house scale, and it came in at 142 lbs. Iam gonna cast a bunch of 00 shot form a LEE Mould, and slugs for 12ga from a  Lyman mould. Iam gonna cast some split shot sinkers for fishing. Neighbor has a special casting machine for making bird shot. Prolly cast some #8 shot as well. The rest will be fluxed and cleaned and re casted into ingots. Now, i just need to order a 6 cavity mould from Lee Precision for 44 cal.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on May 05, 2009, 06:56:48 am
Stopped at a local tire shop today. To see if they had some used lead wheel weights for casting bullets. SCORE!!!  They had a 5  gallon bucket, 3/4 full.  I asked the manager, how much he wanted for it? He said normally get .10 cents a pound. I told him i'll take the whole lot. Probably 125 pounds of wheel weights. I got it for 15.00 bucks.
Got it home and put it on my house scale, and it came in at 142 lbs. Iam gonna cast a bunch of 00 shot form a LEE Mould, and slugs for 12ga from a  Lyman mould. Iam gonna cast some split shot sinkers for fishing. Neighbor has a special casting machine for making bird shot. Prolly cast some #8 shot as well. The rest will be fluxed and cleaned and re casted into ingots. Now, i just need to order a 6 cavity mould from Lee Precision for 44 cal.

Well done!!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 05, 2009, 02:41:33 pm
I had ordered my kit the other day and it came yesterday. WOW
It is in 3 zippered cases stocked full of most forceps, tweezers, probs, 2 scaples with 25 blades, needleholder,suture removal sissors,and prob about 12 other sissors. It was suppose to be a 25 piece kit but turned out to be a 40 not counting the blades.

I think the biggest thing I did yesterday was pray. I stopped at the store and was looking around at all the people and wondered what they will do in the coming months. I listened to one lady talking to I assume her husband about what to pick up for dinner, her comment well dear we do this everynight I call and you dont know, we need to make this decission before I get to the store. gawd how can anyone only buy enough to get through one meal?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on May 05, 2009, 03:07:35 pm

This isn't what i did today.. but recently.

I took advantage of my tax return to procure a gently used 9mm pistol, 5 mags and a .22 conversion kit for it with 2 mags.

The process of selling my in-town home is under way in preparation of moving to a more rural setting (along with a change in job).

Purchased a box of N95 masks.  This is not a particular item for H1N1...but I do have some things to paint/plaster in the house to sell it. :)

Began cleaning out the garage and found a bag of old 7.62x54R brass.  Now I need to figure out if it's reloadable or not.  IIRC, it is Prvi Partizan...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 05, 2009, 07:39:25 pm
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Today I planted pumpkin seeds.
Variety? Eating, baking, livestock use? How many? Where? (curious) mutti

Yesterday, I planted BIG MAX, Cinderella, Cow Pumpkins and Jack "O" Lanters.These have 110-120 days to mature.  About half to sell as plants and half to set in my garden for sale this fall. The Cow pumpkins we grow are large and have a pale pink colored skin and very good rind that is great for eating. They are good for pies and candied like you would a sweet potato. We got them from seeds that were handed down thru our family.

 In about one month I plan to plant shorter growth season ones like the Tennessee Sweet Potato Pumpkin and  Cushaws. Most of the canned  pumpkin you buy in the stores are actually Cushaws. It is not the traditional little round orange pumpkin. They are white with green streaks on the skin with a curved neck. Similar in shape to some gourds.

I also planted gourds today. Again, about half to sell and half to set in the garden. I will sell the gourds green this fall and dry the ones that do not sell this winter and paint them for sell in the spring as birdhouses. Varities I planted were bushel, basket, birdhouse, canteen, bottle, shake, dipper, club, apple, pear, egg and some ornamentals. Before glass and plastic these were essentials in rural areas. I keep enough seeds to get me thru several years in case of crop failure. IF TSHTF I have a renewable source of containers for the future. I do not want to be living off the decaying society that will be left. Why risk eating spoiled food from rusty cans. Have a plan to provide yourself with fresh veggies and learn how to hunt, fish, raise livestock.

Today I also purchased a hand crank corn sheller, two ax handles and a cast iron wok at the local flea market.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: LibertyBelle on May 06, 2009, 11:44:47 am
Today I bottled a gallon of apple wine, half a gallon of grape, and started beer. Heading out to the garden to plant a few dozen things in a few minutes. I'll probably re-organize the first aid kits this evening. It doesn't feel like enough.

In the last month and a half I've cleared acreage for and planted over 300 fruit and nut trees, vines and shrubs. Today feels lazy. I'm not sure how to cope with not being sore and frantic anymore.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on May 06, 2009, 11:46:46 am
Mmmmmmmmm...... beer :occasion14:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 06, 2009, 11:48:08 am
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IF TSHTF I have a renewable source of containers for the future. I do not want to be living off the decaying society that will be left.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 06, 2009, 08:13:28 pm
I  set up my seed starter tray just a few days ago and see some squash sprouts already peeking up. I'm hoping to put in 18 sweet pepper and 18 tomato plants, about twice what I grew last year.  I made a load of salsa last year but I ate it as fast as I made it.  Maybe this year I'll be able to can some.  BTW, seeds are all heirloom varieties.

UPS man brought me three more 15-round magazines for my Glock 19.  I loaded them up right away with hollow points.  An in-the-waistband magazine holster and some tritium-powered night sights should arrive any day now.  The latter will require a visit to a gunsmith to switch out the factory-issue sights. Even though the tritium will degrade and dim, requiring replacement, night sights are well warranted because the great majority of self defense pistol uses occur at night.  One thing to watch out for though is others being able to see the glow from your rear sight through thin clothing.  That would destroy your advantage of surprise in an armed confrontation as well as raise unwanted curiosity from others.

UPS man also brought me 450 packets of oxygen absorber today. I used a few to seal up with some spare slingshot rubbers inside a 7-mil Mylar bag (heat-sealed with a clothes iron).  The rubbers need to be replaced every few years.

A few days ago I set up my Country Living grain mill and cranked it several hundred rotations to produce enough whole-wheat flour for four large chapattis. The experience renewed my interest in adapting a bicycle to make this a pedal-powered operation.  It would be easy enough to hook up an electric motor but I don't want it to be electricity dependent, then have the grid poop out when TSHTF.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 06, 2009, 09:31:22 pm
Last week, I put a BSA scope on my .22 caliber RWS Model 52 air rifle.  I finally got a break in the weather this morning and got it sighted in.  It's now dead on with 20-22 grain round nose pellets.  Going to order a few tins of pellets here in a few minutes, as what's in my sampler from Straight Shooters (http://www.straightshooters.com) won't last long if I shoot the gun much.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on May 06, 2009, 11:55:01 pm


UPS man brought me three more 15-round magazines for my Glock 19.  I loaded them up right away with hollow points.  An in-the-waistband magazine holster and some tritium-powered night sights should arrive any day now.  The latter will require a visit to a gunsmith to switch out the factory-issue sights. Even though the tritium will degrade and dim, requiring replacement, night sights are well warranted because the great majority of self defense pistol uses occur at night.  One thing to watch out for though is others being able to see the glow from your rear sight through thin clothing.  That would destroy your advantage of surprise in an armed confrontation as well as raise unwanted curiosity from others.


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If you have a "thumbbreak" type IWB/OWB holster it will cover the "glow" very well.Galco makes a OWB  model SIL224 that even has a sight protector built in the thumbbreak.Also a "sight-pusher" is a worthwhile investment if your gonna mess with pistols all that much. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 08, 2009, 07:55:03 pm

If you have a "thumbbreak" type IWB/OWB holster it will cover the "glow" very well.Galco makes a OWB  model SIL224 that even has a sight protector built in the thumbbreak.Also a "sight-pusher" is a worthwhile investment if your gonna mess with pistols all that much. Ought 7.

Thanks.  I took a look at them.  I may be able to adapt my Milt Sparks Versa Max 2 to hide any glow.  I could also put an opaque lining just over the holster area on any see-through shirts I wear.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on May 08, 2009, 09:02:07 pm
Mmmmmmmmm...... beer :occasion14:

Mmmmmm...Delicious beer !  :thumbsup:   


BTW, expressing my opinion of the law is not NECESSARILY advocating anything illegal.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 08, 2009, 09:49:48 pm
Hmmm...when it comes to distilling and illegality...I guess I've been on planet ozone, but I really didn't realize that home distilling was illegal.  I guess I just assumed that the legalization of wine and beer brewing meant all was a go.  No never mind, though.  The still I ordered is perfectly legal for water distilling, and that is the way I shall use it unless TSHTF.  I'm usually in areas with really bad tasting water, so I think it will more than justify its' expense.  If, however, everything falls apart and there is no more BATF to check on such things, all bets will be off.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on May 09, 2009, 01:10:55 am
Bought the SAS Survival Handbook, Revised Edition.  Chock fulla good stuff that is!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 09, 2009, 11:28:25 am
Yes it is full of great info. I also have the SAS guide to tracking which has lots of info on ,obviously, tracking. But It also can be use to garner info on evasion.

Another good one is The encyclopedia of survival techniques by Alexander Stillwell. Covers alot of the same info but has some different ideas as well.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 09, 2009, 05:59:05 pm
Downloaded some books to print off and read when slow at work LOL yeah if that ever happens.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 09, 2009, 08:51:02 pm
Bought 3 cast iron skillets off of ebay for $3.34. Local pickup saved me $30. I often search for local items at a bargin on ebay.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: break24 on May 09, 2009, 08:55:26 pm
I made sure that the tv was unplugged and worked in the garden with my wife and kids- on and off, I checked in here.  Then, after saying hello and exchanging dialogue I won't share here, I gave a neighbor some seeds and chatted about what we'd do in our neighborhood should something dirty go down in the Dirty D(Detroit Area.)  I then offered them a place to stay "up north" and asked about how they enjoyed their last visit to our property and acres.  She said that she's about to buy some land up there for pennies(I think it's more like nickels) on the dollar.  They're going to build a home away from home!  

All of which I am happy about because it means people are talking.

Peace

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on May 09, 2009, 09:05:54 pm
Picked up a hand-powered "WonderWasher" at the Goodwill, missing the lid, for a nominal fee ($3). Ordered a replacement lid online, which will be here soon.  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on May 10, 2009, 10:14:09 am
Easy as heck Hollywood.  Get one of those turkey cookers that you deep fry them in but instead of oil use parafin wax.  Once heated all you have to do is dip the DEAD chicken/turkey in it then put into cold water.  All you have left to do is pull the feathers off in sheets.  I recommend having enough chickens/turkey/duck to make it worth your time.

Good grief! If you are going to heat a big pot of something and dunk the things, why bother with the serious expense of the parafin? Just do it the old fashioned way. And remember, paraffin is extremely flammable! If it drips into the fire as you remove the bird, you can have a real fireworks show. This just doesn't make much sense.

Why in the world pluck them at all? I just skin them.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 10, 2009, 10:42:50 am
ND and 8 yo went off to catch a swarm. Yeah! More bees! mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on May 10, 2009, 10:59:37 am
Easy as heck Hollywood.  Get one of those turkey cookers that you deep fry them in but instead of oil use parafin wax.  Once heated all you have to do is dip the DEAD chicken/turkey in it then put into cold water.  All you have left to do is pull the feathers off in sheets.  I recommend having enough chickens/turkey/duck to make it worth your time.

Good grief! If you are going to heat a big pot of something and dunk the things, why bother with the serious expense of the parafin? Just do it the old fashioned way. And remember, paraffin is extremely flammable! If it drips into the fire as you remove the bird, you can have a real fireworks show. This just doesn't make much sense.

Why in the world pluck them at all? I just skin them.
emphasis mine

I do the same ML.
Too much hassle just to save the skin.
IMHO
Some folks DO love the skin, all crispy and crunchy, but I avoid it because that is where a great portion of the fat is located - right up next to the skin.

Different strokes ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 10, 2009, 11:03:05 am
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Why in the world pluck them at all? I just skin them.

But then you deprive yourself of those wonderful crispy chicken cracklins.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on May 10, 2009, 10:33:02 pm
Easy as heck Hollywood.  Get one of those turkey cookers that you deep fry them in but instead of oil use parafin wax.  Once heated all you have to do is dip the DEAD chicken/turkey in it then put into cold water.  All you have left to do is pull the feathers off in sheets.  I recommend having enough chickens/turkey/duck to make it worth your time.

Good grief! If you are going to heat a big pot of something and dunk the things, why bother with the serious expense of the parafin? Just do it the old fashioned way. And remember, paraffin is extremely flammable! If it drips into the fire as you remove the bird, you can have a real fireworks show. This just doesn't make much sense.

Why in the world pluck them at all? I just skin them.
emphasis mine

I do the same ML.
Too much hassle just to save the skin.
IMHO
Some folks DO love the skin, all crispy and crunchy, but I avoid it because that is where a great portion of the fat is located - right up next to the skin.

Different strokes ....

The fat of a pasture raised chicken contains more omega 3 per weight then salmon. This is a reason for proper raising and butchering.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 11, 2009, 12:00:15 am

* Bought a pallet of retaining wall bricks so that we can expand
   our vegetable garden area.

* Made an appointment for a solar power installer to come out
   and evaluate our site for grid-tied solar electric system. The
   idea here is that being grid tied allows us to sell the power
   to the local utility at the same rate they charge us, and in
   case of a long power outage, we can disconnect from the
   grid. I like the idea, but I don't know if it will fly for us or not.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 11, 2009, 07:38:00 am
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Made an appointment for a solar power installer to come out
   and evaluate our site for grid-tied solar electric system. The
   idea here is that being grid tied allows us to sell the power
   to the local utility at the same rate they charge us, and in
   case of a long power outage, we can disconnect from the
   grid. I like the idea, but I don't know if it will fly for us or not.

ND and I are working on this as well. We started by getting a quote for Solar Water and then 1KW expandable quoted as well. We also had a run through to determine what we are doing "wrong" in our every day operations. With the power company increasing rates at an alarming rate (expected 31% this year) - we'd like to not only be more self sufficient, but have cash on hand to increase preps.

Our annual electric is $2,640 even though we heat with wood. The "possible" cost savings are about $1200 per year if we continue doing everything the way we are now. Counting the state rebates, we would be expending $13K which means barring any "unforseens" the outlay would be recouped in 7 years +/-

I think it would be a good idea to revive this thread Solar Energy (http://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=1595.30) before I start wandering off track.

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on May 11, 2009, 07:54:33 am
The fat of a pasture raised chicken contains more omega 3 per weight then salmon. This is a reason for proper raising and butchering.

Don't know about that, and such chickens are simply not an option for me now. But all in all, I'd much rather have the salmon! :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on May 11, 2009, 08:15:20 am
Our annual electric is $2,640 even though we heat with wood. The "possible" cost savings are about $1200 per year if we continue doing everything the way we are now.

Good heavens! I live in a 1700 sq. ft. log home that is all electric. I don't have any wood heat just yet. (Got the stove, just not the pipe yet.) And my electric cost for the last 12 months was about $700.

You sure you don't want to join me in Wyoming? :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 11, 2009, 08:34:45 am
Good heavens! I live in a 1700 sq. ft. log home that is all electric. I don't have any wood heat just yet. (Got the stove, just not the pipe yet.) And my electric cost for the last 12 months was about $700.
You sure you don't want to join me in Wyoming? :)

I'd love to - I have a feeling  Range/Real World practice would be the best "P.E." the kidlets would participate in!  I'd send them to class while I made string cheese (or something else) to barter for their skill acquisition.

It can't happen now though.

On the electric cost - 2 years ago when the pricing practices changed, some monthly bills went up 300% in one month. One of our friends heats entirely with wood - her current electricity bill (3 adults) is $370 per month (an increase of 140%).

Just one step at a time I suppose. At least that chain we can loosen in preparation for throwing it off in the future. mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 11, 2009, 10:31:08 am

Our electricity costs are 12.8 cents per Kwh. That's pretty cheap, but it will end soon,
as the utility contract which makes that possible is about to expire. My other concerns
are that things being what they are, it's not likely the California power infrastructure will
be repaired/improved until after it falls apart. I think we may be seeing the electrical
power supply becoming sketchy out here in the West over the next few years. The other
issue is that if/when TS truly HTF, having electrical power could be a god-send.

The last issue is the whole tax credit thing. I'm thinking that the longer I wait, the less
likely it is that I will be allowed to get my money back through tax credits. As states get
more tight with money, it's increasingly likely that they will reduce the amount of tax
money they will "give up".

Anyway, we'll see on Tuesday if this is even close to being feasible.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 11, 2009, 11:55:28 am
The last issue is the whole tax credit thing. I'm thinking that the longer I wait, the less
likely it is that I will be allowed to get my money back through tax credits. As states get
more tight with money, it's increasingly likely that they will reduce the amount of tax
money they will "give up".

Bear, that was Mutti's thought too and was one of the reasons that we decided to try and swing it.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: tarheelsman71 on May 12, 2009, 08:03:00 am
Just wanted to throw this out there.  I have only been in the prepper state of mind for the last year so I am a fledgling.....Here is my question.  I am not a green thumb .... at all, But i bought some fruit trees (actually picking them up today) and I do not want to take them to my retreat area cuz there is a ton of deer up there and the trees are only 9 ft tall right now.  I would love to have a way to have the trees at my house, but still have the ability to yank 'em out of the ground and get them to the retreat.  Anyone ever used 55 gallon plastic drums buried in the ground for something like this.  I have a john deer with a front end loader to yank it out of the ground (hopefully) should the need arise, but would the trees flourish there?  Just thought I would ask the experts.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 12, 2009, 08:42:18 am
tarhelsman71 (that's a long handle!) - fully mature trees with the needed root ball would be very heavy. When we moved our fruit trees, which I think were 2 - 5 years old, they weighed hundreds of pounds each. Then you would have the issue of preparing holes, watering in, etc. Not "undoable" just difficult. Plus if you are in full "Bug Out" mode - you might only be able to leave with the 3B's.

Have you considered learning to Graft and using any available trees on the retreat? Do you have any wild fruit trees that you could graft high enough where the critters could not get at them? You could learn a new skill and have several varieties of apple/fruit on the same tree.

Just some thoughts and welcome! mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 12, 2009, 09:39:56 am
TH71, IMHO putting these trees in drums is just asking for trouble. Container grown trees are notorius for developing girdling roots after transplant and these shorten the life of the tree and reduce their production. Survey the site that you have now and consider grafting. For example, if you have wild cherries then they are potential rootstock for any of the prunus fruits (peaches, nectarines, cherries, apricots, almond). Wild crab apples are rootstock for domestic apples. Quince, mountain ash, or hawthorn for pears. You get the idea.

You best bet may be to just put these trees in the ground where you are and either dig them in a couple of years or leave them in place and use them for scion wood sources.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 12, 2009, 10:24:53 am
Tarhelsman71,

If it's not possible to put the trees at your retreat just yet, and you must take
them without near bug-out time, there is an alternative you might try.
Consider putting the trees in half-wine barrels, and then doing an
"espalier" with them. The trees will put out fewer fruit, but the fruit will
be larger. Also, this will keep the size of the tree down for awhile.

With an espalier, you train the branches of the tree to grow along
a fence like grapes. I've seen it done, but never done it myself. I suggest
you check with the nursery where you're getting the trees for more info.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 12, 2009, 11:54:55 am
I guess I didn't do this *today* but oh well...

Planted strawberries, broccoli and green peppers in a Earthbox container.  Now I need to research what to do with the 50+ pounds of produce I'm going to get! ^_^  Wishful thinking but I like to aim high.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 12, 2009, 10:48:31 pm
Mowed my yard. Researched sheep, cows, goats, horses, anything else that could live off of the 5 acres I now mow. It is already fenced and I have had cows and horses on it in the past. I figure if I can buy enough livestock to eat the grass I may be able to eat them if needed. If TSHTF I will have build in lawn mowers and meat on the hoof. My biggest problem is I already have so much I am trying to do and I worry I won't have the time to devote to  livestock. I am away during the day and need to be more available if we get back into cows. Goats stink and cowsand horses can be difficult to overwinter without supplimenting their feed. So that gets into growing corn, hay and storage. The last thing I want to do is trade one chore for another. But, I may get out out the bush hook to cut the saplings and let frost take care of the grass/weeds. I ain't never seen a 2 year old weed.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on May 12, 2009, 11:28:52 pm

While you are researching .... check out sheep and Llamas. [and Alpacas]
A couple of Llamas to add to your sheep herd would replace the sheepdog need and they too are shearable for "wool".
[search here at TMM for "Guardian Llamas"]
You do have to be proactive with them as they are "alpha" types unless they are raised to be "people friendly".

[All of this info is second and third hand except the goats parts. I had two milch goats and their kids.]

Most of the ruminates and ungulates will "stink" but goats especially the bucks really do "stink".
[They urinate on their fetlocks and then rub that on their heads and faces as a pheromone or "cologne". ]
The does seem to like it.  :dontknow:

{also search here at TMM for "the Goat chronicles"}
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 13, 2009, 12:14:42 am
For a reasonably low-maintenance method of turning a small acreage into meat, check up on Dexter cattle.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 13, 2009, 06:52:37 am
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Goats stink

Male goats do stink although you can reduce some of the issue by removing the scent glands (even if you don't disbud) on the head. You'll still have the other two locations thought. Depending on the breed of goat you will have a period of time with the odor present. If you are looking for meat goats (Boer/Kiko/etc) the smell will be year round.

A good dairy doe has no appreciable odor.

I personally cannot stand "sheep" smell, but they are better for "grass control". Goats are more browsers and do not do as well on grass as they would on browse.

Dexters are a good option. We have a belted Galloway and have considered Scottish Highland for their "toughness".

If you go the Llama route, why not consider Weeder geese (http://www.metzerfarms.com/weeder.htm). Meat and feathers might be a side benefit.

Good luck! mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: tarheelsman71 on May 13, 2009, 09:31:37 am
Thanks to all that answered.  I guess I will just take them to the retreat and hope for the best.  I have been planting sprigs of blackberries up there for about a year now and am really surprised at how well they have done.  I am in NC so I have fair weather for most of the year.  Blackberries.....Nature's Concertina wire. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on May 13, 2009, 11:03:55 am
Thanks to all that answered.  I guess I will just take them to the retreat and hope for the best.  I have been planting sprigs of blackberries up there for about a year now and am really surprised at how well they have done.  I am in NC so I have fair weather for most of the year.  Blackberries.....Nature's Concertina wire. 

Not to be argumentative BUT it is my personal opinion that Blackberries and their kin are Nature's barbed wire where Lemon trees [wild] are the Concertina wire. [Thorns to three inches long and hard as nails ....  :ph34r:  ]
Much slower growing tho' ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on May 13, 2009, 12:42:04 pm
Just wanted to throw this out there.  I have only been in the prepper state of mind for the last year so I am a fledgling.....Here is my question.  I am not a green thumb .... at all, But i bought some fruit trees (actually picking them up today) and I do not want to take them to my retreat area cuz there is a ton of deer up there and the trees are only 9 ft tall right now.  I would love to have a way to have the trees at my house, but still have the ability to yank 'em out of the ground and get them to the retreat.  Anyone ever used 55 gallon plastic drums buried in the ground for something like this.  I have a john deer with a front end loader to yank it out of the ground (hopefully) should the need arise, but would the trees flourish there?  Just thought I would ask the experts.

Tarheeler:

You can accomplish your goal if time is not a major factor. I would avoid a 50gal drum. You would have the tree in a pot and not a very wide one at that. If the trees are 9' tall today, they are probably 15gal size unless they are B&B trees. In either case, the root systems will be moving more laterally rather than down. That would make the depth of the drum useless and indeed a liability as everything below about 2.5' would be dead weight. Additionally, the straightness and ribs would produce enormous friction when you tried to lift them. Essentially, you would have to excavate around the drum to be able to lift it. 50 gal of soil is going to be about 1800-200LBs. You would need a sizable front end loader to pop that cork.

There are two options I would recommend. Get oversized bursery containers like 60gal or 24" boxes. Transplant them into these and grow them above ground. Depending on species, soils, weather, water and fertilizer, they would be OK for about 1-2 years.

If this doesn't work for you for some reason, get tree baskets of a similarly larger size. The are pyramidal in shape. Dig a pit, wrap the outside of the basket with a filter fabric or plastic and plant the tree in the center of the basket, The tree will grow into the basket and the plastic will stop the roots from going outside. If this option is chosen, you need to cut a whole in the bottom of the plastic so trapped water can drain out the bottom. Before filling and planting, using a post hole auger, drill a hole below the planter pit and fill with gravel. This will function as a french drain for the planter.

Another option would be to plant them at the retreat and mount a light with a motion detector and the light would keep away the deer. At least I think it would.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 13, 2009, 10:32:53 pm
Picked 3 gallons of strawberries. I have a 30x100 strawberry patch that I started about 6 years ago. I ran out of time and had to go to work, but could have easily picked 10 gallons. The wife stayed home today and made jellly and 4 pies. 2 for us and 2 for family. We plan to pick again tomarrow morning and in 2-3 days. We were out of jelly. Last year we did not take the time to make any and the year before the chickens got to them before we did.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 13, 2009, 10:38:58 pm
Planted some apple seeds.  Don't know for sure that any of them will sprout, but we're hoping for at least 2.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 14, 2009, 12:26:02 am
Planted some apple seeds.  Don't know for sure that any of them will sprout, but we're hoping for at least 2.

LOL is your real name "Johnny"?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 14, 2009, 02:00:40 am
Planted some apple seeds.  Don't know for sure that any of them will sprout, but we're hoping for at least 2.

LOL is your real name "Johnny"?

Negative.  It is [redacted].  But I see what you did there.  Quite clever of you.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 14, 2009, 02:31:24 pm
S/O bought 1 box of 38 shells at wlamart YES they had pistol ammo but everyone was limited to 1 box only.
I know this  will sound funny BUT I know how much S/O misses his cow dogs. I have been trying to get him one for 4 years  but everytime I pick one there is something WRONG. too small, too big, too loud, too soft, ya see where I am going. Yes him being in a truck makes it hard to find the "right " dog. Well I have been feeling things are moving faster than alot of people are letting on. So I prayed that God would bring S/O the dog he needed and to him. 3 days later he recieved a phone call from the widow of a guy who was his second father, that she has a pup from the last dog S/O and D shared. She was moving into a senior center and couldnt take the dog. At first he was I cant, but he called her back the next morning and his Dad went and picked her up. She is a bit over a year and is a blue heeler/kelpie. That is the perfect dog for warning and it has sentimental meaning to her. I cant wait to meet her Friday gotta HIDE the cats and prob the lil dogs too LOL He keeps saying she is anoying but I know better.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 14, 2009, 03:02:51 pm
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Picked 3 gallons of strawberries. I have a 30x100 strawberry patch that I started about 6 years ago. I ran out of time and had to go to work, but could have easily picked 10 gallons. The wife stayed home today and made jellly and 4 pies. 2 for us and 2 for family. We plan to pick again tomarrow morning and in 2-3 days. We were out of jelly. Last year we did not take the time to make any and the year before the chickens got to them before we did.

That's fantastic. It's too cold here to do that without a green house, and the snow is too deep
to think about a permanent structure. However, we do have a famer's market which has
very good strawberries from down in the valley. Last summer my wife tried her hand at
making strawberry jam, using just the natural pectin of the fruit. Let's just say it can be
done, but you really need to be careful about moisture control, or you end up with
stawberry syrup.

This summer I don't think she'll worry about the 'natural' aspect of that so much. Seems
like anything worth while has a learning curve.  :thinking:

Bear


 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rarick on May 14, 2009, 11:21:00 pm
Experimented with duck and cover with GOOD (!@%%$^&*) bag on back.   60 lbs of gear feels real grand when you have to dive for cover! :ph34r:    I am going to either get used to the Wiley Coyote syndrome (you hit ground then the pack sandwiches you with its impact), or figure out a new way of carting a lot of stuff around.

I forgot about this little problem- the first duck for cover served as a reminder- and I think  am going to have to relearn shooting with the pack on as well!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 15, 2009, 03:54:05 pm
P/U 3 pair of heavy duty snow pants for kids next year - marked down to $10 - $13 each vs $100-$120 . Who would pay that much :dontknow:?

Also - since we hadn't been to the Mall for over a year noticed some things (we arrived at 9:30 am to avoid the masses):

1. More security

2. More recruiters for various branches of the service

3. People are rude. Their kids are rude. The sales staff is indifferent at best.

4. Stuff is way pricey. The kids pointed out this flowey, cottoney dress they thought I should buy myself. 8 yo looked at the price tag (she had $2 in her pocket - that would have bought it in a second hand store) and it was $168 dollars. I didn't smack her on the back of the head when she said "Sh*t! Thats crazy" mainly because I was thinking the same thing!  (we stopped at Jo-Anns fabric on the way home and bought enough fabric to make 6 dresses for less than $50.)

5. People have no idea who/what is going on around them. There is a distinct lack of "Situational Awareness".

We all were happy to get home - it's crazy out there - people seem like automatons - or is it just me? mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 15, 2009, 08:31:25 pm
No mutti, it is not just you, people around here seem to always walk around in a fog. And I also think that most (especially younger) folks are rude. I get some funky looks when I hold the door open for someone. The sad part is then their children are rude.

I almost got arrested last year when my wife and I walked uptown to the Memorial Day Parade. This young couple walked past us and their boy (I'm guessing about 6 or 8) walked right into me. I said "excuse me" and he said "F off".  I said to my wife if that rotten little bastard was my kid he would eat a bar of soap. At that point his dad who I'm guessing was MAYBE 24 or so came back and got in my face. First I was kinda amazed because while only 6" tall I'm a pretty stocky guy. My arms were as big as this guys thighs, anyway, I don't take to kindly to anyone "gettin all up in my grill" (hehe I speak thug) so I pushed him away. Thats when the cop grabbed me. So what happened was everyone around that saw it told the cop what happened and he let me go. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 16, 2009, 04:34:12 am
Also - since we hadn't been to the Mall for over a year noticed some things (we arrived at 9:30 am to avoid the masses):

1. More security

2. More recruiters for various branches of the service

3. People are rude. Their kids are rude. The sales staff is indifferent at best.

4. Stuff is way pricey. The kids pointed out this flowey, cottoney dress they thought I should buy myself. 8 yo looked at the price tag (she had $2 in her pocket - that would have bought it in a second hand store) and it was $168 dollars. I didn't smack her on the back of the head when she said "Sh*t! Thats crazy" mainly because I was thinking the same thing!  (we stopped at Jo-Anns fabric on the way home and bought enough fabric to make 6 dresses for less than $50.)

5. People have no idea who/what is going on around them. There is a distinct lack of "Situational Awareness".

We all were happy to get home - it's crazy out there - people seem like automatons - or is it just me? mutti

Yup.  Me and the family usually hit the mall once or twice a month during wintertime so the kids have some open space to run.  There are security people all over the place (most yakking it up with the sales staff at the various cell phone kiosks).  Concerning prices?  We rarely buy anything there for the reasons you stated above!

Hoo boy... a little off topic here, uh...  Concerning preparing:

My wife spent a few $$$ refilling the basement shelves with foodstuffs yesterday.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 16, 2009, 06:13:56 am
uuggg I havent been to a mall in a couple years .....Use to live in them LOL

I had lost nail dogs nail trimmes so I got 2. Got an extra knife I use at work all the time. Was talking to the vet about different medical items and asked him about blood stop
powder. He told me that Gebos has a blood stop in the horse area that is the same as the stuff for humans just 1/4 the price. Its not the blue powder that turns into gel but it works the same.

hmmmm I have to remember that I need to say yesterday LOL
Today I am going to meet the new dog and have S/O take me out to dinner. Have to drive to Clovis NM but it was going to be Lubbock so I am happier since its shorter.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Klapton Isgod on May 16, 2009, 07:06:20 pm
Bought a lot of seeds.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on May 17, 2009, 12:58:11 pm
I bought herbs to plant at the farmers market.  I skipped all the out of season fruit and veg and bought from local producers only some things I don't grow. 
I found Valerian. :)
And Holy Basil :)
And Dill seedlings.  Last years Dill seeds never got more than 6" tall.

Also, winter savory, horehound, common mint, sweet marjoram

Wild Rice and rubarb.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: LibertyBelle on May 17, 2009, 02:59:29 pm

Also, winter savory, horehound, common mint, sweet marjoram


Horehound is one I've been wanting to grow for a while. Are you using it medicinally, or for candy?

Today I planted: 2 varieties of pumpkin, 3 varieties cucumbers, 2 of zucchini, yellow crookneck squash, vine peaches, tigger melons, banana melons, 2 varieties watermelon, crenshaw and honeydew melons, 3 varieties of okra, 6 varieties of chiles, 3 of bell peppers, and 6 varieties of tomatoes. Now, to figure out how to keep them from crossing. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on May 17, 2009, 09:17:57 pm
From SurvivalBlog : 
http://www.survivalblog.com/2009/05/three_letters_re_stocking_up_o_1.html
This is from a much larger article concerning medicines and first aid-
Excerpt:


There are thousands of over-the-counter medications used to treat an unlimited variety of ailments. This can make stockpiling medications difficult. Every health care professional has their personal recommendations, but the following are the five OTC items that should be bought in bulk. They are cheap, effective, and each covers a wide range of potential maladies:

1) Aspirin
Can be used to relieve pain, relieve inflammation, thin the blood and lower fever (do not take on an empty stomach)
2) Benadryl (diphenhydramine)
Can be used to treat itching, rash, allergic reactions, and is the most common ingredient in over the counter sleep aids (will cause drowsiness)
3) Pepto-Bismol
Can be used to treat indigestion, nausea, heartburn and diarrhea.
4) Neosporin
Antibiotic ointment for cuts, scrapes and burns
5) Primatene Mist
The only over the counter inhaler capable of minimizing the symptoms of or stopping an acute asthma attack.

No first aid kit is complete without those five. - LA, R.Ph .

More at link
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 17, 2009, 11:50:27 pm
1) Aspirin
Can be used to relieve pain, relieve inflammation, thin the blood and lower fever (do not take on an empty stomach)

Doesn't work as a pain reliever for me 95% of the time.  Don't know why.  I use acetaminophen (Tylenol) instead.

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2) Benadryl (diphenhydramine)
Can be used to treat itching, rash, allergic reactions, and is the most common ingredient in over the counter sleep aids (will cause drowsiness)

Doesn't make me drowsy, but I know several people who can't claim that.

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3) Pepto-Bismol
Can be used to treat indigestion, nausea, heartburn and diarrhea.

Makes me vomit.  I refuse to take it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on May 18, 2009, 12:21:00 am
1) Aspirin
Can be used to relieve pain, relieve inflammation, thin the blood and lower fever (do not take on an empty stomach)

Doesn't work as a pain reliever for me 95% of the time.  Don't know why.  I use acetaminophen (Tylenol) instead.

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2) Benadryl (diphenhydramine)
Can be used to treat itching, rash, allergic reactions, and is the most common ingredient in over the counter sleep aids (will cause drowsiness)

Doesn't make me drowsy, but I know several people who can't claim that.

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3) Pepto-Bismol
Can be used to treat indigestion, nausea, heartburn and diarrhea.

Makes me vomit.  I refuse to take it.


Can't stand liquid pepto myself,the pills work ok. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 18, 2009, 12:36:58 am
We transplanted the starts for our vegetable garden. Seeds will be planted within
a few days. I put the the green houses over half of the raised beds, with the
remaining to be done by next weekend.

Also put in a small retaining wall. Kinda busy this weekend.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on May 18, 2009, 10:15:17 am
Traded 3 Morgan's for 2 Lee Loaders (30-30 & 9mm). Now it's time to start storing primers & powder.

My $0.02
Gypsy
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 18, 2009, 10:26:06 am
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Traded 3 Morgan's for 2 Lee Loaders (30-30 & 9mm). Now it's time to start storing primers & powder.

If you can find them. I'm kicking myself for not getting all of my ammo needs squared
away sooner. I'm pretty much ok now except for primers, but without primers, the rest is
just trade goods.

Bear

BTW, I assume you mean Morgan silver dollars, not horses.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on May 18, 2009, 10:36:10 am
Ya, I'm kicking myself to. I've got a line on 2,000, 9 1/2 primers but that all.

Yepper, Morgan Dollars the only way to trade !

Gypsy
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 18, 2009, 01:50:28 pm
Went and picked up my new rifle. Cant wait to shoot it. Might try tonight at work since I was running from the time I drove past the Mgrs house LOL. S/O told me he had a suprise for me. Since we had been talking about "last of the dogmen" I thought he had replaced my movie I lent out and forgot to whom. Nope he opens the doghouse(storage place on the truck) and pulls out a bag. It is 25 pounds of pinto beans aawwww Said he got them from "the bean getting place" Rangen Inc out of Twin Falls Id. They have pinto, red and black in 25 pound for $10.
I told him when he goes back to get 2 red and a black. He says umm thats 100 pounds of beans ( men  :rolleyes:) Gotta love him. I know he and I dont need that much BUT for trade and God forbid things last awhole lot longer than anyone thinks atleast we wont starve.
Also met the new dog. LOL started spoiling her but then thats what mamas are for. S/O keeps saying she is fat.........I keep telling him that she fits in perfect with us LOL
sshhh dont tell I told  he is getting out walking more which is very good for him.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 18, 2009, 08:02:53 pm
Hilled up my taters, worked in the greenhouse building tables.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Lenny on May 18, 2009, 08:10:53 pm
Made alehoof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glechoma_hederacea) iced tea:


Never made it before, and I think it came out a bit weak. I'm not terribly interested in its traditional uses[/i], but am interested because it's cheap, being a weed, and was once used instead of hops for bittering ale. My wife's main reaction is that it smelled "like grass" while steeping; to me it smells "green" but also vaguely minty. I took a couple sips hot and it tasted weak, but somewhat minty. (http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/i/ivygro16.html)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DirtyLowDown on May 18, 2009, 10:16:20 pm
Fellow Mental Militia Members,

I have been practicing preparedness of one form or another, to one degree or another, since 1989, when Hurricane Hugo struck North Carolina.  Lately, however, my preparedness has taken the form of developing a routine for rotating and replenishing my stockpiles of non-perishables which would last me for at least several months or even a couple of years by eating and using only partial portions.

I also took Claire Wolfe and my Dad's advice and gave up the high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) and refined sugar soft drinks.  Just that alone has enabled me to lose 10 pounds in 2 weeks. 

Now I only use unsweetened coffee, unsweetened tea, 100 % fruit juice with no added sweetener, and naturally-sweetened energy drinks like Sobe, Monster, Rockstar, and Red Bull.  Occasionally, I'll drizzle some local honey on strawberries, since honey can at least be metabolized.  As an added precaution against excess sugar usage, I also take cinnamon supplements and use cinnamon on my oatmeal to metabolize the sugar better.

Since I have given up HFCS and refined sugar, I am getting slimmer and completely by-pass the candy section and go for healthier, cheaper snacks.  I have almost completely lost the taste for junk sweets.

Losing my sweet tooth has also placed me in a very good situation for survival. After a Financial Times story said that there was probably going to be a sugar and coffee shortage this year, I had bought a 25 pound bag of sugar to use as a barter commodity and two big cans of Columbian coffee for personal use.  Since I won't be eating on the sugar, it will mean more to trade for other items.

This weekend, I used coupons, store clearances, price reductions, and my employee discount to buy $80 worth of groceries for only $55.60!  If my math is correct, this amounts to saving of about 37.5 percent!  Previously, my only method of saving was to buy generic.  Now that the coupon bug has bit me, I'm not giving them up!

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 18, 2009, 11:51:07 pm
I recently bought a 5-month supply, sampler of green, unroasted coffee beans AND a roaster for the price of 5 months of roasted coffee.  Green beans keep for about 2 years. FRESH coffee is only fresh for 48 hours.  Green beans are CHEAP. This is a hard deal to beat.  At some frighteningly close future date, I am likely to be able to trade a wheelbarrow of FRNs for a good cuppa Joe.

I am actually anxious to choose between the 8 varieties of beans they sent me so I can stock up that 2 year supply.

Major progress made on establishing the new garden. Traded a website for use of the tractor I sold ... got the grading, spreading and discing done. Then traded 100 soon-to-be-useless FRNs to a tractor guy with a 5' rototiller to finish the beds.  Get to plant next weekend.  Yippeee!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 19, 2009, 08:05:53 am
ND and kidlet were called out for 2 swarms yesterday afternoon within 3 hours. Weeded strawberries, transferred some dill volunteers (I cannot say enough about Mammoth Dill), ordered some silver. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 19, 2009, 11:05:44 am
Got my first 1/10th ounce of gold today (yesterday actually).  Now I just need to find a decent place to stash all of this PM. :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 19, 2009, 11:09:52 am
Got my first 1/10th ounce of gold today (yesterday actually).  Now I just need to find a decent place to stash all of this PM. :ph34r:

You can keep it at my house...no one would ever find it here.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 19, 2009, 11:13:37 am
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Got my first 1/10th ounce of gold today (yesterday actually).  Now I just need to find a decent place to stash all of this PM.

Congrats! Ideally in a safe bolted to the floor. I think the rule of thumb is that an appropriate
safe will cost 10% of what it contains. YMMV.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 19, 2009, 11:21:54 am
You can keep it at my house...no one would ever find it here.

All right!  Thanks!  Wait a minute...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 19, 2009, 12:02:08 pm
Here is some good info on buying a safe.

http://www.brownsafe.com/index.html

Not recommending their products as I don't own one (yet) but they have some good info in the inadequate construction of most manufacturers. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jpheonix on May 19, 2009, 03:38:26 pm
over the past week, had a blackout most of the day, discovered well is not self priming so shouldn't run it when power is out. Taught daughter to use potty by flashlight and expressed importance of conserving batteries. Talked to husband about leaving Ohio, did not care for answers. Bought whole wheat flour to start weaning kids and husband off white bread. Requested grain mill for birthday. Screamed silently in frustration at husband who thinks food storage means he doesn't have to give me as much grocery money the next week and can go buy new car stereo.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 19, 2009, 04:44:47 pm
Well, this was yesterday, but:

I decided I didn't like the way the scope was mounted on my air gun.  It was too far forward (by virtue of the way the mounting base works) and it was leaning pretty bad (could only tell by looking at the crosshairs, but it was obvious then).

So I removed the scope from the base, removed the base from the dovetail on the gun, turned the base around, remounted the scope, and turned the scope to have the crosshairs oriented in a more level manner.  This actually sets the scope back by about 2", which is significantly better.

I still have some daylight left, so I may go sight it back in today, if not, I'll get it done by Thursday, anyway.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 19, 2009, 07:40:51 pm
Took possession (via UPS) of 8 bottles of Survival Tabs to extend the long-term food supply.  Also received the novel "Patriots" which I'm sure will help us hone our plans.  Have recently planted a small kitchen herb garden of basil, chives, and parsley.  Can't really garden much in an RV, but this makes me feel better, in some small way.  Also recently put together a basic herbal first aid kit to supplement the Western meds and supplies I've stashed.  I'm now making up little cards for each element of the kit that describes usages, dosages, etc. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on May 19, 2009, 08:48:18 pm
Took possession (via UPS) of 8 bottles of Survival Tabs to extend the long-term food supply.  Also received the novel "Patriots" which I'm sure will help us hone our plans.  Have recently planted a small kitchen herb garden of basil, chives, and parsley.  Can't really garden much in an RV, but this makes me feel better, in some small way.  Also recently put together a basic herbal first aid kit to supplement the Western meds and supplies I've stashed.  I'm now making up little cards for each element of the kit that describes usages, dosages, etc. 

Nice Nomads, those herbs are handy, have you any experience with foraging for wild plants like asparagus?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 19, 2009, 10:18:37 pm
Took possession (via UPS) of 8 bottles of Survival Tabs to extend the long-term food supply.  Also received the novel "Patriots" which I'm sure will help us hone our plans.  Have recently planted a small kitchen herb garden of basil, chives, and parsley.  Can't really garden much in an RV, but this makes me feel better, in some small way.  Also recently put together a basic herbal first aid kit to supplement the Western meds and supplies I've stashed.  I'm now making up little cards for each element of the kit that describes usages, dosages, etc. 

Nice Nomads, those herbs are handy, have you any experience with foraging for wild plants like asparagus?

Not a lot.  I've collected wild rosehips, wild strawberries, and huckleberries, which I made into jam.  YUM!  We'll be spending most of this summer in the Northwest, and I hope to expand on my foraging experience.  We have friends in Oregon who know where to go for blackberries and huckleberries.  We also have friends in eastern Oregon who are experts at collecting plants for wildcrafted organic wines. - I'd love to take a few lessons!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on May 20, 2009, 07:28:11 am
Not a day but a couple of them. I am completing the 100 bird Chicken Tractor and just in time. The boilers are itching/scratching to leave the brooder. My wife said it looks like "the Ark". Keeping out the critters is the key to it so we'll see how they do. I went with 1/2" welded square mesh so the coons couldn't gut the sleeping/curious birds.

Twin kids Monday night at sundown, bad timing to make sure they nursed and got their shot of colostrum. Hope to sell 4 more colts this weekend.

Pairing down and building up at the same time. Sometimes it feels like driving with one foot on the accelerator and the other on the brakes.

Hopefully the brakes won't give out.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on May 20, 2009, 07:58:04 am
Took possession (via UPS) of 8 bottles of Survival Tabs to extend the long-term food supply.  Also received the novel "Patriots" which I'm sure will help us hone our plans.  Have recently planted a small kitchen herb garden of basil, chives, and parsley.  Can't really garden much in an RV, but this makes me feel better, in some small way.  Also recently put together a basic herbal first aid kit to supplement the Western meds and supplies I've stashed.  I'm now making up little cards for each element of the kit that describes usages, dosages, etc. 

Nice Nomads, those herbs are handy, have you any experience with foraging for wild plants like asparagus?

Not a lot.  I've collected wild rosehips, wild strawberries, and huckleberries, which I made into jam.  YUM!  We'll be spending most of this summer in the Northwest, and I hope to expand on my foraging experience.  We have friends in Oregon who know where to go for blackberries and huckleberries.  We also have friends in eastern Oregon who are experts at collecting plants for wildcrafted organic wines. - I'd love to take a few lessons!

Sweet, I've been trying to quasi fertlize the wild blackberries around the place with things like eggs shells and coffee grounds, we'll just have to see how that turns out.

As for the homemade wine, my adventure into the brewing arts will be limited to AppleJack, a servicible if drab home project.

As for what was done to prepare, I'm grasping the concept of "Replacement Cost" vis a vis the Alpha Strategy, it's quite an eye opener, for example Motor Oil has increased 2/3rds in prce, in order to "replace" the oil used during a 3 year period will cost more then I realized.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on May 21, 2009, 12:44:59 am
Box of 720 baby-wipes  (alcohol-free)- approx $13  @ sam's club.
More #10  (and smaller) cans of food for storage. (Chosen to mix with rice, pasta, or beans- basic staples, etc. ).
More beans and pasta.
More bottled water.
http://www.green-trust.org/freebooks/Preparedness.pdf   <--------LDS manual for storing food/preps-  according to rough calculations, we have 2-3 months supply of food stored

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on May 21, 2009, 06:41:12 am
My deer hide is comming along.  The racoon is scraped and ready to store or tan.  The deer is about 2/3 scraped.  One side was MUCH easier than the other.  I am gone now for about 4 days.  I have it covered with a tarp, but the frame is too big to get inside anyplace I have.  I hope it doesn't get wet.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 21, 2009, 11:56:03 am
http://www.green-trust.org/freebooks/Preparedness.pdf   <--------LDS manual for storing food/preps-  according to rough calculations, we have 2-3 months supply of food stored

I downloaded the pdf from Survival Blog this morning and after looking through the recommendations...  I'm nowhere near where I need to be!  Time to get back to work...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Radio Flyer on May 21, 2009, 01:27:20 pm
Finished filling 2ltr bottles with beans and rice from the "Bulk club" visit this weekend.

About to start on more reloading - finished 1500 rounds last week.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 23, 2009, 10:35:39 pm
http://www.green-trust.org/freebooks/Preparedness.pdf   <--------LDS manual for storing food/preps-  according to rough calculations, we have 2-3 months supply of food stored

I downloaded the pdf from Survival Blog this morning and after looking through the recommendations...  I'm nowhere near where I need to be!  Time to get back to work...
I printed off the 4 pages of the list. I went through and filled in the list. I have alot of stuff not on it..... But hmmm I thought I was farther along than I am. But looking at how long I have been stocking I am doing pretty good. S/O will knock out a good bit next time he is in Twing Falls. When I go back to Charlotte I will just about finish it out. maybe.....LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on May 24, 2009, 09:47:06 am
Fired up my Big Green Egg last night, Cooked a total of three meals with one firing. Very happy that I invested the money in it. I will never worry about cooking food if/when TSHTF.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 24, 2009, 10:03:52 am
I planted about 220 transplants.  24 melons and squash - had to use a pick to break up the soil for each mound ... used shovel to dig and mix organics into soil for rows for tomatoes, peppers, herbs and some pretties. 

I have the same initiative and willingness to work as always, but the body is punishing me now for failure to act my age.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 24, 2009, 11:04:48 am
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- had to use a pick to break up the soil for each mound ...

Next Fall, put a generous amount of composted steer manure on the garden
and just leave it be. Turn the soil in Spring, and you will be amazed at how
much the soil has been improved.

Our natural soil is acidic (pine duff), low in nutrients, and extremely low
in organics. I put 2 to 3 INCHES of composted steer manure on the garden
before the snow fell last Fall, and now, after turning it this Spring, it's like
walking on a feather bed.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 24, 2009, 12:16:41 pm
Fired up my Big Green Egg last night, Cooked a total of three meals with one firing. Very happy that I invested the money in it. I will never worry about cooking food if/when TSHTF.
I did a search and it looks really cool. Bet it would make an awsome turkey. I found all types of info on their site except price LOL Whenever I cant find a price on an item I go back to what my Grandma always said "If you have to ask the price then you cant afford it"
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mr. Dare on May 24, 2009, 12:51:28 pm
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- had to use a pick to break up the soil for each mound ...

Next Fall, put a generous amount of composted steer manure on the garden
and just leave it be. Turn the soil in Spring, and you will be amazed at how
much the soil has been improved.
  +1, can't go wrong with manure! Also I would recommend a heathy dose of peat moss (should be available at lawn and garden centers and feed and seeds everywhere). Not only will it help keep the soil loose, it sucks up and holds water like a sponge. Your plants will be able to get all they want out of it, but it is not likely to dry out from evaporation. Especially if you mulch over it with clean straw, shredded paper, or any other mulching material. Even deciduous leaves will work in a pinch. Also if you can afford it a small "mantis" or other hand held tiller will be a plus and save you a lot of hand work now that you have broken you soil up. We have a troy built weed whacker with the cultivator purchased as an attachment. Works like a charm as long as you don't try and excavate with it. It is decidedly a cultivator and works best on soil that is already broken up some. It will stir in you manure, peat moss, and compost to a depth of about 8-10 inches and we do it twice a year. Once in the fall after last harvest, and once in the spring before planting.
  This (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productList&N=4294961544&Ne=4294967294&Ntk=i_products&Ntt=Troy+built+trimmer+attachments) is what we have...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 24, 2009, 11:22:46 pm
Finally ordered a Nuke-Alert radiation detector.  If I have to improvise a fallout shelter, it would be important to know when the fallout arrives as well as how effective my shelter is.  Also got a couple pouches of Cellox for staunching blood loss from gunshots and other serious wounds.

Tomorrow I'll visit Sam's Club for the first time ever.  They're offering a $15 summer trial membership.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 25, 2009, 01:01:34 am
I turned over the soil in the last of the garden beds. I think
this is the last of the heavy work, this year. I need to put in
some wooden poles for the deer netting, but I don't think
that will be as much work.

Things are beginning to take shape!

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 25, 2009, 08:27:54 am
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Also got a couple pouches of Cellox for staunching blood loss from gunshots and other serious wounds.

Hope you never need it - good call jic. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on May 25, 2009, 08:05:25 pm
Released the "free rangers" today and they wouldn't leave the tractor. So much for liberating "Chick-Mo". I expect/hope they will find the temptation of the "arthropods" tomorrow irresistible.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on May 25, 2009, 08:19:11 pm
Also got a couple pouches of Cellox for staunching blood loss from gunshots and other serious wounds.

see article:
    http://www.survivalblog.com/2009/05/letter_re_fda_restricts_over_t.html
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 25, 2009, 10:05:31 pm
Well, Private Joker, THAT'S a complete circle :-)

I got the idea from that very Survival Blog piece you linked to, bought a lifetime membership in SafeCastle, a Survival Blog advertiser, and ordered my stuff. (Safecastle carries my BURY 'EM! tubes, so it was nice to return some business.)

Had to spend some money at Sam's Club on my first-ever visit, including 100 lbs. rice, 4 gallons white vinegar, one (first of many I suppose) gang-LED screw-in bulb.  These things produce almost no waste heat so most energy is emitted as light.  This one replaces a 45-Watt incandescent but consumes only 5 Watts.  I also liked others' suggestions of a bug-out-bag library on a UBS drive so I picked up a couple 8-gig drives for that purpose.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: LibertyBelle on May 26, 2009, 10:57:22 am
Mr. Dare: I've used one of those troy bilt cultivators - I love it for raised bed and terraces.

Yesterday we checked out another 26 acres. This chunk is half a mile away, already cleared, has a stock pond, barn, machineshop, and house (no more travel trailer!), and is reasonably priced. :love4:

Today we're harvesting cherries and processing them (dried, leathers, pie filling, wine, jam).  Tomorrow it's back to clearing acreage for fall planting. I hope to get another four acres cleared by Sunday. By this time next year we should have over 500 fruit trees, and another 600+ fruit bushes and vines. More if we acquire that other 26.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: jpheonix on May 26, 2009, 02:56:37 pm
Answered one of my long burning questions and put a new gadget on the wish list.  Oil Expeller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuLJoAYX2WM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.truveo.com%2FManually-operated-Piteba-oil-expeller-press%2Fid%2F2273879178&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 26, 2009, 05:55:03 pm
Answered one of my long burning questions and put a new gadget on the wish list.  Oil Expeller http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuLJoAYX2WM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.truveo.com%2FManually-operated-Piteba-oil-expeller-press%2Fid%2F2273879178&feature=player_embedded

Short video but nice. Hey Bear, you think you could make something like this (looks like threaded pipe parts) and add a pulley wheel instead of a crank handle? They're selling this model for 100 Euro.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 26, 2009, 07:26:15 pm
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Short video but nice. Hey Bear, you think you could make something like this (looks like threaded pipe parts) and add a pulley wheel instead of a crank handle? They're selling this model for 100 Euro.

ND

What does the flame near the end of the gadget do? It can't
help expel oil, as that drain for the oil is before it, not after it.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 26, 2009, 07:36:54 pm
Also got a couple pouches of Cellox for staunching blood loss from gunshots and other serious wounds.

see article:
    http://www.survivalblog.com/2009/05/letter_re_fda_restricts_over_t.html

Anti-hemorrhage preps vary in performance.  Some have to be suctioned out of a wound after having effect.  I'm not familiar with Cellox, but I've used Surgicel in clinical situations in an ICU, with inconsistent response.  I've been studying herbs some lately, since modern pharmaceuticals may not be an option in a SHTF scenario.  Some of what I've found on the subject of hemorrhage:

From:  ehow.com - http://www.ehow.com/how_2099323_stop-hemorrhages-natural-remedies.html

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Use cayenne pepper to stop external bleeding and slow internal bleeding. For external hemorrhage, fill the wound with cayenne pepper. The pepper will not hurt at all, but will help to form a scab, stopping bleeding. For internal hemorrhage add cayenne pepper to your food as much as you can handle and whenever possible to help slow bleeding.

And I can't cite the source right this moment, but I've also read that to stop bleeding, you can sprinkle goldenseal powder into a wound and apply pressure with a clean cloth.

I have no first hand experience with these, but would love to hear if anyone here has used them.  

I'm sure herbal remedies vary in efficacy too, but I figure it never hurts to be familiar with your options in an emergency.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 26, 2009, 09:12:05 pm
I should point out that it's Celox (only one L) that I purchased as a coagulant, just in case anyone starts googling it.

Yesterday I investigated what it would cost in time and money to become an EMT.  There are three levels of EMT and the first two require 140 hours of classroom time and $675 and $750 respectively in tuition.  However, the top level is a full-fledged paramedic and that is a 15-month program consisting of 1,200 classroom hours and over $8,000 tuition.  (These are local New Hampshire prices and requirements.)  I figure any amount of medical training would be greatly valued in a TEOTWAWKI situation.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 26, 2009, 11:48:28 pm
I should point out that it's Celox (only one L) that I purchased as a coagulant, just in case anyone starts googling it.

Yesterday I investigated what it would cost in time and money to become an EMT.  There are three levels of EMT and the first two require 140 hours of classroom time and $675 and $750 respectively in tuition.  However, the top level is a full-fledged paramedic and that is a 15-month program consisting of 1,200 classroom hours and over $8,000 tuition.  (These are local New Hampshire prices and requirements.)  I figure any amount of medical training would be greatly valued in a TEOTWAWKI situation.

I would eagerly welcome a level 1 or 2 EMT with a brain ... and value him/her far above fully-indoctrinated level 3.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: clarence on May 27, 2009, 03:15:42 am

Yesterday I investigated what it would cost in time and money to become an EMT.  There are three levels of EMT and the first two require 140 hours of classroom time and $675 and $750 respectively in tuition.  However, the top level is a full-fledged paramedic and that is a 15-month program consisting of 1,200 classroom hours and over $8,000 tuition.  (These are local New Hampshire prices and requirements.)  I figure any amount of medical training would be greatly valued in a TEOTWAWKI situation.

join the volunteer rescue squad in your area if there is one. the squad will usually pick up the cost of the training if you are committed to doing service for the community. my brother was trained this way. he is only the hospital time and passing a competency exam away from paramedic. he did his training over several years when the classes were available.

clarence
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 27, 2009, 11:01:06 am
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Yesterday I investigated what it would cost in time and money to become an EMT.  There are three levels of EMT and the first two require 140 hours of classroom time and $675 and $750 respectively in tuition.  However, the top level is a full-fledged paramedic and that is a 15-month program consisting of 1,200 classroom hours and over $8,000 tuition.  (These are local New Hampshire prices and requirements.)  I figure any amount of medical training would be greatly valued in a TEOTWAWKI situation.

I am clueless about medicine. Can you tell me, in general terms, what the different skill levels
are of an EMT 1,2 and 3? I'm wondering what would be a useful level of training for my
particular situation.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 27, 2009, 11:21:40 am
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Yesterday I investigated what it would cost in time and money to become an EMT.  There are three levels of EMT and the first two require 140 hours of classroom time and $675 and $750 respectively in tuition.  However, the top level is a full-fledged paramedic and that is a 15-month program consisting of 1,200 classroom hours and over $8,000 tuition.  (These are local New Hampshire prices and requirements.)  I figure any amount of medical training would be greatly valued in a TEOTWAWKI situation.

I am clueless about medicine. Can you tell me, in general terms, what the different skill levels
are of an EMT 1,2 and 3? I'm wondering what would be a useful level of training for my
particular situation.

Bear


I don't know much myself but I pulled this info kernel on Basic EMT: The curriculum includes airway management, oxygen therapy, patient assessment, medical emergencies, traumatic injuries, special patient populations, and EMS operations.

For Intermediate EMT: Course and clinical work will allow students to perform advanced level patient assessment, utilize advanced airway devices (including the Combitube, LMA, and King airways), recognize lethal dysrhythmias, initiate intravenous fluid therapy, administer medications, and achieve a higher level of clinical decision-making skills.

For Paramedic (the expensive program): As the highest level of pre-hospital care, Paramedics are highly trained members of the health-care community often responsible for bringing life-saving diagnostic and treatment skills to the patient at the scene of an emergency. The Paramedic has extensive training in pre-hospital pharmacology, advanced patient assessment, advanced airway and cardiac management, trauma management, and the pathophysiology and management of shock.

-------------------------------------------

Today I ordered three 30-round magazines for my Mini 14 and a couple of pet antibiotics (no prescription required):
Cephalexin 200 capsules @  500 mg. for pets $52.00 + $4.95 shipping  = $56.95       http://www.entirelypets.com
Metronidazole 200 tablets @ 500 mg.  $38.00 + $4.95 shipping = $42.95          http://www.entirelypets.com

Of course it is just plain wrong to skirt the law and use these meds on humans.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 27, 2009, 12:18:17 pm
As I started to write this, I just realized that I am nearly over the cold that has kept me down for the last month. I was about to say something about getting off the peg, the dime or my duff when I realized that my body was busy fighting internal battles with nothing left beyond surviving work (employment) and minimal maintenance.

Anyway, I raked up dozens of wheelbarrows full of aged horse shavings I had spread too thickly in one garden space and enhanced the beds for my dozens of plants who were complaining about conditions.  Everybody is much happier now with irrigation sumps and mulch keeping the sunburn off the soil.  I, of course, am most happy seeing my plants smile back at me.

The three-payday month inspired a modest investment in our pantry.  We haven't hit the canned goods warehouse yet, but I did some of the hardgoods shopping:
From AmmunitionToGo:
1 x 50rds - 12 gauge NobelSport LE 2 3/4 12 pellet 00 Buckshot (ans1200bk10) = $34.95
1 x 25rds - 12 Gauge Federal LE Tact. Full Power TRUBALL Rifled Slug (LEB127RS) = $19.95
1 x 50rds - 357 Sig Winchester Ranger Talon 125gr. HP Ammo (RA357SIGT) = $39.95
From MidwayUSA:
$146.99    500 rounds Wolf Military Classic Ammunition  7.62 x 39

I was feeling critically short or completely out of these.  Now I'm just low.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 27, 2009, 12:33:19 pm
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Short video but nice. Hey Bear, you think you could make something like this (looks like threaded pipe parts) and add a pulley wheel instead of a crank handle? They're selling this model for 100 Euro.

ND

What does the flame near the end of the gadget do? It can't
help expel oil, as that drain for the oil is before it, not after it.

Bear

My guess is that it keeps the assembly warm to increase the quanitity of oil yielded. Cold press is not very efficient, hence cold-pressed oils cost more.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 27, 2009, 12:44:18 pm
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My guess is that it keeps the assembly warm to increase the quanitity of oil yielded. Cold press is not very efficient, hence cold-pressed oils cost more.

ND

Could be, but wouldn't it make sense to heat the material before it gets pressed?
Yes, I realize that the metal will conduct the heat, but it seems like an awkward
way to do it. Why not use reflective material, like in a solar oven, to heat the
whole device? Also, sunlight is free.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on May 27, 2009, 01:06:41 pm
here is the company web site with many pictures and tips (including plans to hook a press to a bicycle)

http://www.piteba.com/index.html

From what I can see heating the press cage is the most efficient use of fuel. Heating the whole press would, of course use more fuel.
As far as using the sun as a heat source you would be bound to sunny days to use the press, with the small oil heater you could use it anytime and anywhere.

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 27, 2009, 04:24:21 pm
As I started to write this, I just realized that I am nearly over the cold that has kept me down for the last month. I was about to say something about getting off the peg, the dime or my duff when I realized that my body was busy fighting internal battles with nothing left beyond surviving work (employment) and minimal maintenance.

Anyway, I raked up dozens of wheelbarrows full of aged horse shavings I had spread too thickly in one garden space and enhanced the beds for my dozens of plants who were complaining about conditions.  Everybody is much happier now with irrigation sumps and mulch keeping the sunburn off the soil.  I, of course, am most happy seeing my plants smile back at me.

The three-payday month inspired a modest investment in our pantry.  We haven't hit the canned goods warehouse yet, but I did some of the hardgoods shopping:
From AmmunitionToGo:
1 x 50rds - 12 gauge NobelSport LE 2 3/4 12 pellet 00 Buckshot (ans1200bk10) = $34.95
1 x 25rds - 12 Gauge Federal LE Tact. Full Power TRUBALL Rifled Slug (LEB127RS) = $19.95
1 x 50rds - 357 Sig Winchester Ranger Talon 125gr. HP Ammo (RA357SIGT) = $39.95
From MidwayUSA:
$146.99    500 rounds Wolf Military Classic Ammunition  7.62 x 39

I was feeling critically short or completely out of these.  Now I'm just low.
They had 357 on hand???? Cool off to see if they also have 38 special

I made my shopping list for when I go to Charlotte...Son works at Wal Mart dist so he gets a 10% discount on everything but food, so I can get hygien stuff and go to Sams to get a bunch of staples.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 27, 2009, 05:57:45 pm
As I started to write this, I just realized that I am nearly over the cold that has kept me down for the last month. I was about to say something about getting off the peg, the dime or my duff when I realized that my body was busy fighting internal battles with nothing left beyond surviving work (employment) and minimal maintenance.

Anyway, I raked up dozens of wheelbarrows full of aged horse shavings I had spread too thickly in one garden space and enhanced the beds for my dozens of plants who were complaining about conditions.  Everybody is much happier now with irrigation sumps and mulch keeping the sunburn off the soil.  I, of course, am most happy seeing my plants smile back at me.

The three-payday month inspired a modest investment in our pantry.  We haven't hit the canned goods warehouse yet, but I did some of the hardgoods shopping:
From AmmunitionToGo:
1 x 50rds - 12 gauge NobelSport LE 2 3/4 12 pellet 00 Buckshot (ans1200bk10) = $34.95
1 x 25rds - 12 Gauge Federal LE Tact. Full Power TRUBALL Rifled Slug (LEB127RS) = $19.95
1 x 50rds - 357 Sig Winchester Ranger Talon 125gr. HP Ammo (RA357SIGT) = $39.95
From MidwayUSA:
$146.99    500 rounds Wolf Military Classic Ammunition  7.62 x 39

I was feeling critically short or completely out of these.  Now I'm just low.
They had 357 on hand???? Cool off to see if they also have 38 special

I made my shopping list for when I go to Charlotte...Son works at Wal Mart dist so he gets a 10% discount on everything but food, so I can get hygien stuff and go to Sams to get a bunch of staples.


Notice he said .357 Sig, not Magnum.  They be different.  I would check Midway for .357 Magnum and .38 Special anyway, just to see if they have it, though.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 28, 2009, 05:44:26 am
As I started to write this, I just realized that I am nearly over the cold that has kept me down for the last month. I was about to say something about getting off the peg, the dime or my duff when I realized that my body was busy fighting internal battles with nothing left beyond surviving work (employment) and minimal maintenance.

Anyway, I raked up dozens of wheelbarrows full of aged horse shavings I had spread too thickly in one garden space and enhanced the beds for my dozens of plants who were complaining about conditions.  Everybody is much happier now with irrigation sumps and mulch keeping the sunburn off the soil.  I, of course, am most happy seeing my plants smile back at me.

The three-payday month inspired a modest investment in our pantry.  We haven't hit the canned goods warehouse yet, but I did some of the hardgoods shopping:
From AmmunitionToGo:
1 x 50rds - 12 gauge NobelSport LE 2 3/4 12 pellet 00 Buckshot (ans1200bk10) = $34.95
1 x 25rds - 12 Gauge Federal LE Tact. Full Power TRUBALL Rifled Slug (LEB127RS) = $19.95
1 x 50rds - 357 Sig Winchester Ranger Talon 125gr. HP Ammo (RA357SIGT) = $39.95
From MidwayUSA:
$146.99    500 rounds Wolf Military Classic Ammunition  7.62 x 39

I was feeling critically short or completely out of these.  Now I'm just low.
They had 357 on hand???? Cool off to see if they also have 38 special

I made my shopping list for when I go to Charlotte...Son works at Wal Mart dist so he gets a 10% discount on everything but food, so I can get hygien stuff and go to Sams to get a bunch of staples.


Notice he said .357 Sig, not Magnum.  They be different.  I would check Midway for .357 Magnum and .38 Special anyway, just to see if they have it, though.
LOL nope all I saw was 357  ^_^
Well I went to Georgia arms and they had some .38 special We shall see if they have it when its my turn to get filled LOL
I picked up a jerky gun and some seasoning.....after reading it, now very confused. They said must be refridgerated since there is no perservitives but there is....Are they just CYA and the jerky will be ok?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on May 28, 2009, 09:41:38 am
here is the company web site with many pictures and tips (including plans to hook a press to a bicycle)

http://www.piteba.com/index.html


I grabbed those bicycle-power images and saved them in a Word document.  I bought an old bicycle to hook up to my Country Living grain mill but I hadn't come up with a design yet.  I don't see why their setup wouldn't work for me.  The Country Living mill comes with a V-belt flywheel for hooking it to an electric motor but I wanted to make it grid-independent, even solar-panel-independent.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 28, 2009, 10:03:56 am
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I picked up a jerky gun and some seasoning.....after reading it, now very confused. They said must be refridgerated since there is no perservitives but there is....Are they just CYA and the jerky will be ok?

Yeah, this is just CYA. If the jerky is dried enough, it will keep quite a long time without refrigeration.
But, since the manufacturer has no control over how well you use their product, they are erring on the
side of caution.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on May 28, 2009, 11:07:09 am
Could be, but wouldn't it make sense to heat the material before it gets pressed?
Yes, I realize that the metal will conduct the heat, but it seems like an awkward
way to do it. Why not use reflective material, like in a solar oven, to heat the
whole device? Also, sunlight is free.

Bear

Sounds like a wonderful improvement. Enlarge the hopper and paint it black then reflect sun onto it too.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on May 28, 2009, 12:27:36 pm
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Sounds like a wonderful improvement. Enlarge the hopper and paint it black then reflect sun onto it too.

ND

I had another thought about this: why not heat the oil seeds before they go into the mill?
Use some sort of solar oven to heat the stuff up, and just remove what you can grind quickly.
By separating the heating and the milling operations, you make both simpler.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 28, 2009, 04:39:04 pm
Quote
I picked up a jerky gun and some seasoning.....after reading it, now very confused. They said must be refridgerated since there is no perservitives but there is....Are they just CYA and the jerky will be ok?

Yeah, this is just CYA. If the jerky is dried enough, it will keep quite a long time without refrigeration.
But, since the manufacturer has no control over how well you use their product, they are erring on the
side of caution.

Bear


Thanks thats what I had hoped.
Printed off some recipes. Thanks JWR for the recipe for baking powder.
Spent most of last night while driving the tractor accpeting the fact I am no longer a Republican.... :huh: Finding I am more a Libertian
I kept hearing the song from Spirit "Get off my back"  I want to just work for what I have and be left ALONE. I am tired of paying for children to have children and sit around drinking and making more babies. I am tired of paying for people who are depressed to sit at home.....Hail I have gone through depression a couple times and yes it is very hard BUT you have to CHOOSE to work on getting better. I know at times it does include drugs to get the levels back to normal but its also a state of mind. I am tired of hearing new employees say that cow pushing is too hard of work since they have to open gates and do alot of walking.....HAIL come do MY JOB. There are times I fall to my knees crying from the pain but I pick myself back up and finish the job. I work alone, so picking up the calves is my job alone. I have to wrestle with sick cows and every once in awhile they go a bit crazy and I get used as a soccer ball. I have been labled disabled by the state of Texas BUT I still work. I want to get ahead, I want a front porch to sit on in watch the sunset/sunrise. I know I cant do this job much longer but I can do it untill I feel I have enough to get what I need. Sorry to go on a rant but I am just so tired.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on May 28, 2009, 07:14:54 pm

Don't worry about it MsSage.

We all have bad days and then we go back to just plain horrible .... :rolleyes:

Hang in there and IF you want PM's can bring a friend up close ... sorta.
The time delay is a LOT disconcerting but even I got used to it so ....
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Gypsy on May 28, 2009, 11:44:21 pm
When you get that front porch, let me know so I can send you a bottle of nice wine to go with the sunsets/sunrises.

Peace
Gypsy
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on May 29, 2009, 04:45:19 am
I want to get ahead, I want a front porch to sit on in watch the sunset/sunrise. I know I cant do this job much longer but I can do it untill I feel I have enough to get what I need. Sorry to go on a rant but I am just so tired.

Not at all.  Keep on keepin' on.  My dad and brother haul pigs for a living and every once in awhile I get out of my cubicle and lend a hand.  Hard, dirty work is an understatement!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hammer on May 29, 2009, 06:59:03 am
It seems that virtually everything I do anymore is self-reliance/prep stuff. Last Friday we butchered the latest batch of 50 meat chickens (great batch averaging 7.1 pounds per bird with just under 3 lbs. of feed per 1 lb. dressed bird). Yesterday I painted the last two drums for gas and diesel fuel, which I will fill Saturday. Monday bought a Remington 870 extended mag 12 ga. Planted potatoes and beets last week. Will till the garden for planting this weekend. It goes on and on.

Often times I used to walk that razor-thin line between spending time/money on things that may never happen. More and more lately, I don't think that way so much. Now I worry that I have enough time to get it all done. With some kind of sense of urgency.

My Grandmother used to say "Hard times are a'coming". How right she was. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 29, 2009, 09:46:44 am
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.........I want to get ahead, I want a front porch to sit on in watch the sunset/sunrise. I know I cant do this job much longer but I can do it untill I feel I have enough to get what I need. Sorry to go on a rant but I am just so tired.

I think that the occasional rant is good for the soul MsSage.  I hear what you're saying, and I applaud your goals. 

And I agree with Bear about the jerky.  I dry mine very dry, and I've kept it unrefrigerated for several months, at least.  Would probably last longer, but it gets eaten.  Funny about that.  Next time I make some, I might try to pack some in a glass jar with an O2 absorber and see how it does.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 29, 2009, 01:06:47 pm
Thanks yall that means so much. I guess I havent been destressing very good here the past couple months. I am also going back home for 10 days so I hope that
helps more than add LOL
I printed out more recipes and today I am going to sit here ( couple hours at least) and cut them out and glue them to 5 x 7 index cards and put in a file.
Funny thing I use to love going through my Grandmothers old recipe box. Well now I have my own.LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on May 29, 2009, 10:19:06 pm
It seems that virtually everything I do anymore is self-reliance/prep stuff. Last Friday we butchered the latest batch of 50 meat chickens (great batch averaging 7.1 pounds per bird with just under 3 lbs. of feed per 1 lb. dressed bird). Yesterday I painted the last two drums for gas and diesel fuel, which I will fill Saturday. Monday bought a Remington 870 extended mag 12 ga. Planted potatoes and beets last week. Will till the garden for planting this weekend. It goes on and on.

Often times I used to walk that razor-thin line between spending time/money on things that may never happen. More and more lately, I don't think that way so much. Now I worry that I have enough time to get it all done. With some kind of sense of urgency.

My Grandmother used to say "Hard times are a'coming". How right she was. 

Hey Hammer;

How are you plucking the feathers?


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on May 29, 2009, 10:39:14 pm
We always skin young meat birds.
Much faster and less messy.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on May 30, 2009, 04:39:19 am
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.........I want to get ahead, I want a front porch to sit on in watch the sunset/sunrise. I know I cant do this job much longer but I can do it untill I feel I have enough to get what I need. Sorry to go on a rant but I am just so tired.

I think that the occasional rant is good for the soul MsSage.  I hear what you're saying, and I applaud your goals. 

And I agree with Bear about the jerky.  I dry mine very dry, and I've kept it unrefrigerated for several months, at least.  Would probably last longer, but it gets eaten.  Funny about that.  Next time I make some, I might try to pack some in a glass jar with an O2 absorber and see how it does.

How in the world are you getting jerky to last several months?  If I turn a 3 lb. roast into jerky, it's gone in less than a week.  I mean, I eat my share of it, too, but if I'm gone on a Friday night (which I usually am), my parents will demolish what's left of the jerky.  I mean yeah, it's some tasty stuff, but is there a trick to keeping people from eating it all so you can store it?  Besides making it so nasty anyone will eat it, that is.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on May 30, 2009, 08:28:18 am
How in the world are you getting jerky to last several months?  If I turn a 3 lb. roast into jerky, it's gone in less than a week. at it, that is.

The last time I made Jerky, was when I was still an active hunter.  Most of an elk would be cut into
regular cuts of meat.  The misc cuttings, too nice for burger and All of the deer
(except the backstraps)
would be made into jerky.  Dried Hard Dry.
Stores well in a glass jar.
The problem is that you are not producing enough.
But even in quantity, it can go fast.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on May 30, 2009, 10:09:35 am
How in the world are you getting jerky to last several months?  If I turn a 3 lb. roast into jerky, it's gone in less than a week.  I mean, I eat my share of it, too, but if I'm gone on a Friday night (which I usually am), my parents will demolish what's left of the jerky.  I mean yeah, it's some tasty stuff, but is there a trick to keeping people from eating it all so you can store it?  Besides making it so nasty anyone will eat it, that is.

Well, for starters, there's just the two of us, and I keep DH well-fed so he doesn't resort to snacking very often.  :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 30, 2009, 11:33:21 am
I went deer hunting once. I made deer jerky once. I was following a crude recipe: cut thin strips, rub a dash of salt on it, put it in the oven with only the pilot light on. I was young enough to think that might work. Shortly after that I visited my family. On the fifty minute ride home from picking me up where the USAF cargo plane dropped me, six of us demolished a grocery bag of jerky. I don't remember much about it, but suspect it was good.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on May 30, 2009, 07:09:44 pm
went out to pick up a coyote spotlight....found out have to have scope first LOL but in talking with the Assist mgr saw that they only had 5 boxes left of .17 they have ALWAYS had tons of it. She said that all of a sudden they have been having a run. hmmmm I grabbed the last 5 they had since I only had 400 rounds.
She was saying people are really getting scared now, said not sure why and there hasnt been any one thing but people around here are scared.
Making me wish my trip was today so I can get to Sams and wal Mart.
S/O was after me to get some jerky made might have to run out and get some ground meat and give it a whirl.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 30, 2009, 09:59:22 pm
ND and I took down 3 trees (40' ft plus) with help. Goodness gracious, I feel old  :angry:.  when did that happen Here I sit at 41 years old and tired. - I demand a recout  ^_^.

(This is in the prep. stage for solar. Can't have the trees in the way of the sun)

Clean up tomorrow - nap this evening. Mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on May 30, 2009, 11:30:00 pm
ND and I took down 3 trees (40' ft plus) with help. Goodness gracious, I feel old  :angry:.  when did that happen Here I sit at 41 years old and tired. - I demand a recout  ^_^.

Dang kids whining... shucks, when I was your age ....
I was probably feeling old after taking down 3 trees...
I still feel old after working hard at unusual jobs.
Don't expect much change as long as you keep working.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 31, 2009, 08:07:40 am
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Dang kids whining... shucks, when I was your age ....
I was probably feeling old after taking down 3 trees...
I still feel old after working hard at unusual jobs.
Don't expect much change as long as you keep working.
Quote

Hey! Reality? Here? No whining and moaning? Okay (rubs toe in in dirt) - sigh - off to clean the milk room floor and then cut/drag/stack/ repeat.

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on May 31, 2009, 02:01:29 pm
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Dang kids whining... shucks, when I was your age ....
I was probably feeling old after taking down 3 trees...
I still feel old after working hard at unusual jobs.
Don't expect much change as long as you keep working.

Hey! Reality? Here? No whining and moaning? Okay (rubs toe in in dirt) - sigh - off to clean the milk room floor and then cut/drag/stack/ repeat.

mutti

All of that wood and the heat it represents for just a little physical exercise .... well OK all that physical exercise .... well OK the physical endurance extending exercise that seems like it is gonna kill ya at the time. Is that better ?

"The rocking chair will 'get ya'. "  is an old time warning against too sedentary a lifestyle. It happens to be all too true as well.
Fortunately those with children and livestock Usually don't need worry about that one. 
The rocking chair is usually only used on Sundays. IF then ....

Those of us who happen to be unfortunately single [or fortunately ... whatever] Do have to actually find a reason to get out of the "computer chair" and do a little health improving  .... {shudder} .... exercise.     :ph34r:


gooch      gone for a saunter ....

:thrbiggrin:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on May 31, 2009, 02:31:24 pm
Be tuff trooper. Ought 7.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on May 31, 2009, 10:15:18 pm
Okay - 2 out of the 3 are toasted, hackberry is all mine tomorrow (insert evil laugh).

Picked up 3 90% boer kids ( 2 bucks/1 doe) for a good price - they are 1 day and 3 days old. I am attempting to graft them to a Nubian milker - we will see how that goes. Vicks vapor rub - gotta love it.

A side note - ran into big box store and found mis-marked Sunkist tuna for $0.16 vs $0.72 per can. Took up 200 cans to the cash register and was rebuffed. After some haggling (after all they were marked $0.16 I should get them for that price!) - manager let me take 50 home at the lower price. I left the 150 for them to put away.

mutti


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on June 01, 2009, 05:24:04 am
A side note - ran into big box store and found mis-marked Sunkist tuna for $0.16 vs $0.72 per can. Took up 200 cans to the cash register and was rebuffed. After some haggling (after all they were marked $0.16 I should get them for that price!) - manager let me take 50 home at the lower price. I left the 150 for them to put away.

Wow.  That's a lot of tuna...

This past weekend I added a few more gallons of water to my stash, bought $4 dollars (face value) worth of junk silver coins on Ebay, and (insert drum roll here)........

harvested two (count'em) two strawberries from my Earthbox.  It was a delicious snack! :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: RightArmOfWyoming on June 01, 2009, 05:36:41 am
Mapped and printed out speed traps in Wyoming.

MWD
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 01, 2009, 07:40:06 am
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Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

Yep. If we splurge on a meal the family (and various visitors/extra kids) - we can go through 3 cans of tuna for sandwiches per meal or 1 can per MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.

I always get nervous when we are under 50 cans or so. (Same thing with under 10 tubes of toothpaste). Must be a crazy goat lady kind of thing  :laugh:

Yea on the Strawberries! Are they June Bearing only?

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on June 01, 2009, 10:19:04 am
Yea on the Strawberries! Are they June Bearing only?

Hmm... I have no idea.  I guess I'll find out come July!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socco on June 01, 2009, 03:12:18 pm
I cultivated my acre of field corn yesterday. I need a hand grinder to make meal in the fall.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on June 01, 2009, 03:30:22 pm
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Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.

Remind me never to eat your Mac & Cheese....  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 01, 2009, 04:04:39 pm
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Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

Yep. If we splurge on a meal the family (and various visitors/extra kids) - we can go through 3 cans of tuna for sandwiches per meal or 1 can per MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.

I always get nervous when we are under 50 cans or so. (Same thing with under 10 tubes of toothpaste). Must be a crazy goat lady kind of thing  :laugh:

Yea on the Strawberries! Are they June Bearing only?

mutti
Sorry had to laugh
from the crazy ol cat lady  :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 01, 2009, 04:53:50 pm
Quote
Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.
Remind me never to eat your Mac & Cheese....  :)
I don't like it, but ND does and Hot Sauce does wonders to mask the combination. When you love someone, what's a little macncheese with tuna and peas?

It's all about compromise  ^_^

mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on June 01, 2009, 08:08:49 pm
I cultivated my acre of field corn yesterday. I need a hand grinder to make meal in the fall.

Hand grinding an acre of corn is a major undertaking.
How many bushels do you expect to get?
What kind?
We are doing Navajo heirloom corn this year,
but nowhere near that much.
I did, however achieve near 100% germination with the blue
and yellow but only 50% with the white.
This is from seeds stored pre Y2K.
My current catching up is getting estimates on long
neglected dental work while I still have insurance.
And a new eye test and replacement glasses.
The garden is going full speed ahead!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: NuclearDruid on June 01, 2009, 08:59:35 pm
Mapped and printed out speed traps in Wyoming.

MWD

The Holy Land has Revenuers? :thrshocker: I'm shocked I tell you! Why, with all that "milk and honey" flowing so freely, you wouldn't think the goobermint would need to add to it's general fund.

ND
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 01, 2009, 10:43:22 pm
I tried to water my garden, but got bitten by a swarm of mosquitos instead.
I have an urban homestead in the CSA and it seems the mosquitos are the real state birds.
http://urbanhomestead.org/about
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on June 01, 2009, 11:07:13 pm
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I cultivated my acre of field corn yesterday. I need a hand grinder to make meal in the fall.

Awesome! What kind of yield are you expecting?

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 01, 2009, 11:49:27 pm
Quote
I cultivated my acre of field corn yesterday. I need a hand grinder to make meal in the fall.

Awesome! What kind of yield are you expecting?

Bear


1,000 lbs minimum(including 300 lb pumpkin)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socco on June 02, 2009, 11:55:50 am
The yield depends on whether we have rain at the right time. Most of it will be cracked for animal feed, chickens, cattle and such. I also have a very large garden with sweet corn, G90 to cut off and put up frozen as well as Peas, Squash, Okra, Tomatoes. Peppers and cucumbers. I should be able to put up enough to make a winter. I got my garden put in mid April. One of the luxuries of a deep south climate. My garden is laid by for the most part. The field corn is a variety I got from an old man several years ago and I always save enough to replant. I have never planted winter wheat before except for deer food plots but I plan to try it this fall. I used to be big in ranching and I had a pto drive feed mill. I sure wish i had kept it. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on June 02, 2009, 12:53:13 pm
Mapped and printed out speed traps in Wyoming.

MWD

The Holy Land has Revenuers? :thrshocker: I'm shocked I tell you! Why, with all that "milk and honey" flowing so freely, you wouldn't think the goobermint would need to add to it's general fund.

ND

Even the holy land has highway robbers. Stay armed and ready.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 02, 2009, 12:57:23 pm
Mapped and printed out speed traps in Wyoming.

MWD

The Holy Land has Revenuers? :thrshocker: I'm shocked I tell you! Why, with all that "milk and honey" flowing so freely, you wouldn't think the goobermint would need to add to it's general fund.

ND

Even the holy land has highway robbers. Stay armed and ready.


The Green Mountain Boys usedt' be highway men, then they made an honest living killing red coats.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on June 02, 2009, 08:39:25 pm
The yield depends on whether we have rain at the right time. Most of it will be cracked for animal feed, chickens, cattle and such. I also have a very large garden with sweet corn, G90 to cut off and put up frozen as well as Peas, Squash, Okra, Tomatoes. Peppers and cucumbers. I should be able to put up enough to make a winter. I got my garden put in mid April. One of the luxuries of a deep south climate. My garden is laid by for the most part. The field corn is a variety I got from an old man several years ago and I always save enough to replant. I have never planted winter wheat before except for deer food plots but I plan to try it this fall. I used to be big in ranching and I had a pto drive feed mill. I sure wish i had kept it. 

At 6700 feet in the Southern Colorado Rockies, we are just getting to the point that we can be sure of no spring freeze
so the last of the garden is going in.  (Heirloom chilis and tomatoes)  A belt or pto driven mill would make a huge
difference in your project.  How do you crack it without?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on June 02, 2009, 09:38:45 pm
Took a 35 mile, 3 day hike into the mountains and taught my son a ton of essential woodcraft and survival techniques.  Also proved that an old guy like me still has it and can get out if I need to.  Took a lot of new gear and put it to use.  Tools don't do any good if you don't know how to use them.  Also found a few things NOT to do.  For example.... don't store your soap next to your trail mix in your backpack for a period of time..... the scent and taste will transfer... yuck.  Plan to buy some Good hiking boots next.  One of the things I wish I had planned ahead of time.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on June 02, 2009, 10:09:12 pm
Quote
Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.
Remind me never to eat your Mac & Cheese....  :)
I don't like it, but ND does and Hot Sauce does wonders to mask the combination. When you love someone, what's a little macncheese with tuna and peas?

It's all about compromise  ^_^

mutti



Maybe so, but my willingness to compromise ends when it comes to eating things I'm allergic to, like peas (or corn, or green beans).  The tuna part, I'm cool with.  I have no problem with tuna (in vegetable oil, it's always tasted funny to me if it's canned in mineral water).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on June 02, 2009, 11:49:10 pm
Part of my preps is an intermediate plan to develop job skills that will
bridge losing my job to a complete 'oh sh*t' environment.

I got a scholarship for an intense 1 week  training session given at
a local ski resort. Today was day 2 of 5. The good news is that I
already knew much of the general stuff, and am picking up the
ski lift related stuff pretty easily. I'm also making contacts that
may be handy later.

Things we've covered so far:

* How to PROPERLY wear a fall-type safety harness.
* How to secure yourself when doing tower work, and
   a dozen ways NOT to do it.
* Flame cutting with an oxy-acetelyne torch.
* Intro to arc-welding (I've already done a little gas welding)
* The relationship of the ropeway manufacturer to the owner
   (Ski resort), and who is responsible for what.
* General topics on ski lift maintenance.
* Intro to shiv wheel maintenance (the idler wheels on lift towers).
* Discussion on lubricants, different types, chemistries, and
   what they are for.
* Intro to hand tool operations. Pilot holes, clearance holes,
   holes for taps, tapping, fixing stripped threads, thread types
   and applications. Some light work with files.

Other topics I know we will be covering are:

* Variable frequency drive motors.
* Electrical power distribution systems.
* Electronic control systems.

... and quite a bit I haven't been told about yet.

Bear


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 03, 2009, 12:46:53 am
Quote
Wow.  That's a lot of tuna.

MacNCheese w/tuna and peas.
Remind me never to eat your Mac & Cheese....  :)
I don't like it, but ND does and Hot Sauce does wonders to mask the combination. When you love someone, what's a little macncheese with tuna and peas?

It's all about compromise  ^_^

mutti



Maybe so, but my willingness to compromise ends when it comes to eating things I'm allergic to, like peas (or corn, or green beans).  The tuna part, I'm cool with.  I have no problem with tuna (in vegetable oil, it's always tasted funny to me if it's canned in mineral water).

I stocked up on kippers, tuna, lentils, and started planning for an experiance gaining trip to begin in about a week or two. Walking accross the country, from one sea to the other.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on June 03, 2009, 07:21:46 am
Plugging away at getting the garden in.  Bought more seed potatoes, the ones I like to eat this time,  :rolleyes:  PLanted more corn, beans and squash.  Room for two more circles.
Got cucumbers, brocoli, babbage in.  Got more brocoli and cabage sets from my mom along with brussel sprouts.

Still scraping the deer hide.  The most unusual set of neighbors keep comming over to ask about it.  I got asked if I make dream catchers. 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 03, 2009, 08:44:41 am
What kind of corn do you plant? I use flint, because it has more vitamins and less sugar. It also makes great tortillas.
My food stores will include a considerable amout of this stuff, What would you suggest I store it in.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socco on June 03, 2009, 10:37:27 am
I am on the lookout for another pto grinder. As far as the corn meal I think for now I can get by with a hand grinder.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on June 03, 2009, 07:59:59 pm
We have a Corona which has ground everything from coffee to beans
to corn to wheat.  For small amounts that don't have to go too fine,
it works well.  We have the optional stones. but have never fit them.
A friend who works a horse team recently began restoration of a belt
driven stone mill with the intent of making it horse driven.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 03, 2009, 09:01:20 pm
I alternate weekly between  another 20# of beans and 20# of rice, and foods to mix w/them.  This week soup and other canned foods.
And more bottled water.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on June 03, 2009, 09:27:32 pm
Water rotation day. Dumped rinsed and refilled 125 assorted containers. I do this every monthly so none of my stored water is more than 1 year old.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on June 03, 2009, 09:30:11 pm
I used sweet corn, just to eat fresh.  The beans and squash are the keepers.  I have no means to grind anything.

Today I planted everything else.  It took all evening after work.  I am pooped.  But now I only have to keep it watered and I can focus on other things, like finding my couch under the mess I have been ignoring in favor of the planting. :)

My mom started a bunch of Valerian from seed and gave me some.  I started Yarrow inside and got both those out today.  We plan to move this summer so I suppose I'll have to move them too.  Those are the herbs I use most, after chicory.  I planted that too.  I suspect it isn't a perenial, at least not in the great white north.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 03, 2009, 10:48:28 pm
Water rotation day. Dumped rinsed and refilled 125 assorted containers. I do this every monthly so none of my stored water is more than 1 year old.

I've heard that a silver coin in each water container prevents bacterial growth (and conserves water).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on June 03, 2009, 11:34:37 pm
Well as i have over 300 different containers with close to 2500 gallons of water stored and a handful of silver coins, that would not work for me. Interesting if true tho.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 03, 2009, 11:44:02 pm
Well as i have over 300 different containers with close to 2500 gallons of water stored and a handful of silver coins, that would not work for me. Interesting if true tho.

We need to join forces. I've got loads of silver dimes ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 03, 2009, 11:47:04 pm
Waiting on several online orders to arrive:

3 Mini 14 Magazines, 30-round
2 Celox pouches to clot arterial bleeding
2 powerful LED flashlights
2 Israeli gas masks
1 "bulletproof" Toughbook cf-27 laptop

I just got the gas masks today on http://www.cheaperthandirt.com
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 04, 2009, 01:21:01 am
I got the CF-27.Add a little bleach ta your stored water/non-scented type and prob solved. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 04, 2009, 04:02:54 pm
I got the CF-27.Add a little bleach ta your stored water/non-scented type and prob solved. Ought 7.

Musta sent my CF-27 to you 'steada me ;-)  I'm not sure they've even shipped mine yet.

Today I bought a Glock 19 Gas Blow Back Airsoft Pistol with metal slide so I can practice drawing, aiming, and firing daily without a trip to the range.  I chose that model because it has a more realistic weight, is advertised as very accurate at short (gunfight) range, and should fit snuggly into my Glock 19 Milt Sparks IWB holster.  I just have to be careful not to get the two guns mixed up.  Maybe I could paint the Airsoft pink.  I paid $126 plus shipping for it.  One site offered it for less but was out of stock.

Why the Airsoft instead of dry-firing practice?  There is a danger of forming bad habits from dry firing that put you at a great disadvantage in a gun fight, namely drawing the slide back in between shots.  This action, which is necessary in order to dry fire a semiautomatic, wastes time between shots and wastes rounds since half the live rounds in your magazine will be pumped out onto the ground. The Airsoft allows you to train without manually operating the slide so that particular bad habit never forms.

Of course The Airsoft's plastic BB will produce hardly any recoil so regular sessions with live ammo are still needed to retain skills. Also there is likely to be a weight difference between the two that could interfere with drawing reflexes, another reason not to over-train with the Airsoft.
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Post by: socalserf on June 04, 2009, 04:41:44 pm

Why the Airsoft instead of dry-firing practice?  There is a danger of forming bad habits from dry firing that put you at a great disadvantage in a gun fight, namely drawing the slide back in between shots.  This action, which is necessary in order to dry fire a semiautomatic, wastes time between shots and wastes rounds since half the live rounds in your magazine will be pumped out onto the ground. The Airsoft allows you to train without manually operating the slide so that particular bad habit never forms.


Bravo!
Absolutely, positively correct!

One exception would be wheel guns. (Don't under estimate revolvers.)
Snap caps in a revolver will give you almost as good a practice as air soft.
Wax bullets in the revolver powered by primer alone will be excellent too.

While it is theroetically possible to over train with fire arms, almost no one does.
Air soft, snap caps, and wax bullets go along way to solve the expense limitations.
Well done.
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Post by: gaurdduck on June 06, 2009, 04:34:32 am

Why the Airsoft instead of dry-firing practice?  There is a danger of forming bad habits from dry firing that put you at a great disadvantage in a gun fight, namely drawing the slide back in between shots.  This action, which is necessary in order to dry fire a semiautomatic, wastes time between shots and wastes rounds since half the live rounds in your magazine will be pumped out onto the ground. The Airsoft allows you to train without manually operating the slide so that particular bad habit never forms.


Bravo!
Absolutely, positively correct!

One exception would be wheel guns. (Don't under estimate revolvers.)
Snap caps in a revolver will give you almost as good a practice as air soft.
Wax bullets in the revolver powered by primer alone will be excellent too.

While it is theroetically possible to over train with fire arms, almost no one does.
Air soft, snap caps, and wax bullets go along way to solve the expense limitations.
Well done.

U mentioned wax bullets, are they any less lethal than salt pellets or rubber?
I'm trying to make a nonlethal round for my .45 percussion pistol.
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Post by: MamaLiberty on June 06, 2009, 07:16:44 am
I'm going to an Appleseed shoot all weekend, and networking with my freedom community. Getting prepared is seldom so much fun! :)
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Post by: socalserf on June 06, 2009, 09:10:57 am

U mentioned wax bullets, are they any less lethal than salt pellets or rubber?
I'm trying to make a nonlethal round for my .45 percussion pistol.

There is a rubber practice bullet from x-ring, but these are light weight primer powered affairs.
But there is no reason that you couldn't make your own heavy weight type.
Police use heavy rubber ammo but I don't know if suppliers will sell to non-LEO's, I doubt it.

Anyway, there are many reasons not to use non-lethal ammo for self defense.
It is usually too much or not enough. It leaves you wide open for civil liability.
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Post by: slidemansailor on June 08, 2009, 11:33:52 pm
I bought 500 .224 Sierra 77gr HPBT match bullets I intend to strike within the 9, 10 or X rings at 600 yards.  25-cents each from Natchez Shooting Supply ... very, very good deal if you have a 1:8 twist heavy barrel on your .223.

I wanna find something cheaper for the short range (200-300 yard), but everything I saw is more, not less expensive.  More than that, I wanna buy a whole bunch more of everything, but run up against the insufficient funds barrier.  Dang impending doom just doesn't appear patient enough.
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Post by: socalserf on June 10, 2009, 11:12:38 am
I've got some lock picks and videos on how to use them after I read of urban escape and survival techniques.
So far I'm able to pick most of the Master locks I own.
Quite challenging, locks turn out to be simple but very interesting machines.
http://www.lockpicking101.com/
http://www.lockpickshop.com/

I've been giving some thought to becoming a part time or armature lock smith.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on June 10, 2009, 11:42:13 am
Locksmithing I can understand, sort of, but why would you want to pick locks?

As for urban survival... get the heck out of it NOW and there will be a MUCH better chance of survival all around. sigh
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on June 10, 2009, 11:51:35 am
Locksmithing I can understand, sort of, but why would you want to pick locks?

As for urban survival... get the heck out of it NOW and there will be a MUCH better chance of survival all around. sigh

Picking locks is a mechanically interesting hobby. It could possibly be useful, you never know.

I'll agree with you on the best urban strategy is not to be in the city. Heavy sigh.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on June 10, 2009, 12:19:10 pm
I'll agree with you on the best urban strategy is not to be in the city. Heavy sigh.

No progress there at all, dear?  :love4:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on June 10, 2009, 12:25:49 pm
I got the CF-27.Add a little bleach ta your stored water/non-scented type and prob solved. Ought 7.

It has always been my understanding that bleach "wears out" after some time. I do use it in my stored water, I just wanna make sure that the water is still pure when I need it. So I kinda arbitrarily decided on one yr as my cut off for replacement.

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Locksmithing I can understand, sort of, but why would you want to pick locks?

Folks lose keys all the time. also in a SHTF type of situation there may be quite a few empty but locked buildings around.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on June 10, 2009, 12:32:27 pm
Bleach is basically water saturated with chlorine gas. The gas is toxic to a whole lot of things including bacteria. The gas also returns to the atmosphere at a steady rate. Your bleach or the much stronger pool or industrial chlorine solutions all will degrade over time.

However, if you put a few drops in a sealed gallon jug of water, the bacteria in the container will be dead regardless of the degradation of the chlorine. In other words, once you have purified the gallon, it will remain so until opened - regardless of the time between those two events.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: coloradohermit on June 10, 2009, 12:51:02 pm
Finally started this year's firewood gathering. First trip out garnered a pickup load. This old grammy sure gets out of shape over the winter.  :shakehead: I'm planning to go way overboard this year to be prepared for whatever the future brings. Sure would hate to have to be out cutting firewood by hand and dragging it home in a wagon.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on June 10, 2009, 01:21:58 pm
Finally started this year's firewood gathering. First trip out garnered a pickup load. This old grammy sure gets out of shape over the winter.  :shakehead: I'm planning to go way overboard this year to be prepared for whatever the future brings. Sure would hate to have to be out cutting firewood by hand and dragging it home in a wagon.

Firewood goes from wet to dry and continues on to won't-heat-a-tepee.  You can't put up a lifetime supply unless you are planning for a short lifetime.  You CAN, however, buy bricks of .22 ammo for later use to entice strapping young men to stack cut/split firewood at your back door.
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Post by: Klapton Isgod on June 10, 2009, 03:35:06 pm
Ordered Storey's guides to raising Rabbits, Beef Cattle, Diary Goats, Sheep, and a book on home butchering livestock.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on June 10, 2009, 04:25:14 pm
Finally started this year's firewood gathering. First trip out garnered a pickup load. This old grammy sure gets out of shape over the winter.  :shakehead: I'm planning to go way overboard this year to be prepared for whatever the future brings. Sure would hate to have to be out cutting firewood by hand and dragging it home in a wagon.

Firewood goes from wet to dry and continues on to won't-heat-a-tepee.  You can't put up a lifetime supply unless you are planning for a short lifetime.  You CAN, however, buy bricks of .22 ammo for later use to entice strapping young men to stack cut/split firewood at your back door.

The kind of wood will affect how long you can store it before it becomes useless.  As long as it's not rotten, oak seems to heat just fine once it's seasoned, regardless of how long it's been down.  I've used oak and hickory that has been down for 2 or 3 years and it works fine.  Hackberry is usually good for a couple of years, but beyond that it just burns too fast.  Maple (at least what we have around here) is not a good heating wood just because it doesn't seem to burn very hot or very long.  I've read that soft woods don't store as well, but we don't burn soft woods at my house.  Can't speak for CH or anyone else.

Elm is a terrible firewood.  It doesn't want to burn, it's almost impossible to split, and it stinks.  The most amateur way I've found to identify elm is to throw it in the wood stove.  If it looks the same in the morning as it did when you threw it in the stove the night before, it's probably elm.  :)
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Post by: dogsledder54 on June 10, 2009, 04:47:34 pm
Went to the veterinary supply store. Got a
"Complete wound and trauma bandage pack". Says it's for use on people, horses, and all animals.     $24.95
It contains :

one 12" x 30"   (30.5 x 76.2 cm) sterile trauma dressing
one   3" x 8"    (7.6 x 20.3 cm) sterile wound dressing non-adherent pad
sterile povidone-iodine ointment
gauze sponge pads  non-sterile  8 ply    4" x 4"  (10.2 x 10.2 cm)
two rolls  conforming stretch gauze  4 "x 3 yards   (10.2cm x 3.64m)
safe wrap TM self-adherent easy tear compression bandage 4" x 5 yards  (10.2cm x 4.57m)
    note: perfect for difficult-to-wrap areas: designed for consistent non-slip support applications
one roll  conforming lightweight easy tear stretch tape 4" x 7.5 yards  (10.2cm x 6.88m)
    note: durable, conforming adhesive which easily conforms to every contour
one pair nitrile examination gloves - p/f
to view all of our safety products, visit www.americasacres.com
also got :
100   sterile "ouchless" non-adherent pads  3 " x  4"   (7.5cm x 10cm)     $22.95
3 rolls  cohesive flexible bandage 4" x 5 yards  (10.2cm x 4.57m)      $1.45   each
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Polearm on June 10, 2009, 06:35:15 pm

I recently took delivery of a full case of ammo for the Tokarev.

The (now) wife found a Faraday rechargable flashlight (cause it piqued the science geek in her).

We also started planning for our move to a less urban environment.  My only comment... where did we get so much stuff?

Oh... and got married.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 10, 2009, 07:34:58 pm
I bought a Lee Load All II in 12 GA. so I can make and stock up on my own ammo. I plan to have 4-6K rounds by next year.
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Post by: Bank Walker on June 10, 2009, 10:44:53 pm
Picked two rows of peas and the first ripe maters of the season.
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Post by: McClarinJ on June 11, 2009, 01:08:49 am
I had been wanting to buy a gas mask for some time and finally got one, and one extra.  They're Israeli civil defense models and apparently were packaged with these neat atropine syringes you get to jab into your thigh in case the nerve gas makes you whoosey.  I say apparently because each gas mask box had been opened and the instructions dealt with proper use of atropine injectors as well as gas mask.  I guess we're not allowed to inject ourselves without a doctor's permission.

My AirSoft Glock 19 arrived and I was delighted to see that it was appropriately heavy. The only ways I could distinguish it in the dark from my real G-19 without firing or popping the magazine are the tritium glow-in-the-dark sights on the real gun and the slight rattle of the metal slide when I shake the AirSoft.  The AirSoft uses "Green Gas" as a propellant but I chose the cheaper make-your-own alternative: propane canisters and a drop or two of silicone every few charges.  I ordered a special fill nozzle to mount on the propane canister along with a container of light silicone lubricant. I plan to set up a firing range in my bedroom.  If I do it right, I should be able to re-use the ammo.  This will allow me to improve my draw/aim/fire time and develop a well-ingrained muscle memory.
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Post by: knobster on June 11, 2009, 04:53:31 am
The (now) wife found a Faraday rechargable flashlight (cause it piqued the science geek in her).
My son loves the one I picked up.  He once sat on the couch and shook it for 10 full minutes.

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Oh... and got married.

Congrats!
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Post by: Klapton Isgod on June 11, 2009, 07:21:47 am
I had been wanting to buy a gas mask for some time and finally got one, and one extra.  They're Israeli civil defense models and apparently were packaged with these neat atropine syringes you get to jab into your thigh in case the nerve gas makes you whoosey.  I say apparently because each gas mask box had been opened but the instructions dealt with proper use of atropine injectors as well as gas mask.  I guess we're not allowed to inject ourselves without a doctor's permission.

Atropine will ruin your whole day.  It's almost as bad for you as the nerve agent.  All it really does is buy you a little time - MAYBE.  If you have contact with a nerve agent, you efforts would be better spent in bending over and kissing your ass goodbye.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on June 11, 2009, 10:45:47 am
Atropine will ruin your whole day.  It's almost as bad for you as the nerve agent.  All it really does is buy you a little time - MAYBE.  If you have contact with a nerve agent, you efforts would be better spent in bending over and kissing your ass goodbye.

But Nicholas Cage survived when he stuck it right into his heart.  He even stood up and popped some flares about a minute later... :laugh:
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Post by: dogsledder54 on June 11, 2009, 01:28:22 pm
Atropine will ruin your whole day.  It's almost as bad for you as the nerve agent.  All it really does is buy you a little time - MAYBE.  If you have contact with a nerve agent, you efforts would be better spent in bending over and kissing your ass goodbye.
But Nicholas Cage survived when he stuck it right into his heart.  He even stood up and popped some flares about a minute later... :laugh:

But he drove a Beige Volvo.
  :laugh:
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Post by: gaurdduck on June 11, 2009, 02:27:27 pm
I harvested potatoes and spring onions, and made a bad @$$ potato soup. I'm also looking into building a seaworthy fishing vessel to fish the atlantic and the river by my house for food WTSHTF. We have everything from sunfish, salmon, and trout, to Giant river cats, and Bull sharks in the river. We also have a warm water current just off shore that allows us to have fish from the tropics and alittle further out; cold water fish like herring (one of my favorites, smoked[also called kippers]), and polluck. Hopefully I'll have it built by next year's haddock season.
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Post by: Bank Walker on June 11, 2009, 05:23:45 pm
Cleaned up three rows in the garden and tilled them for a late planting of corn and green beans. Planted some late tomatoes and squash. Our tiller bit the dust so I had to buy another. $200 from a local repair shop.
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Post by: Bear on June 11, 2009, 11:49:35 pm
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I harvested potatoes and spring onions, ...

ALREADY???????

Oh yeah... you live on the shore, not at 6,700' MSL.... sigh....

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 12, 2009, 12:15:59 am
Congratulations, Polearm !  Just discovered your marital status. I hope you are better at marriage than I am. And reading. That wouldn't take much.   :laugh:

And I'm envious of you all picking food from your gardens already. My tomato plant is looking good, but no tomatoes yet. The zuchini isn't looking so hot yet, but I have high hopes for it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on June 12, 2009, 04:42:09 am
And I'm envious of you all picking food from your gardens already. My tomato plant is looking good, but no tomatoes yet. The zuchini isn't looking so hot yet, but I have high hopes for it.

I second that.  I've enjoyed two strawberries thus far and noticed a green pepper the size of a ping-pong ball yesterday.  The weather here in Michigan refuses to stay in the mid-70s for more than a day it seems!
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Post by: kirgi07 on June 12, 2009, 05:33:16 am
Picked 10lbs of maters/after a emergency oral surgery.Yesterday was frikkin RUFF. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Texasbound on June 12, 2009, 07:18:11 am
Get well soon Kirgi!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MamaLiberty on June 12, 2009, 07:36:02 am
Just a suggestion...

Povidone-iodine in any form may do more harm than good, especially for non intact skin. It actually destroys living cells and can retard healing. Unless you are contemplating doing major surgery, there are many far better things to use - especially on wounds. Hospitals no longer use betadine or similar products for long term central line care, for instance. --- or at least they didn't the last time I was involved.  I've seen it come and go several times, regardless of the known outcomes.

Also, some people are very allergic to this form of iodine and a full blown allergic reaction is not something you are going to cope with well in a boondock or SHTF situation. If you insist on using it, find out NOW if anyone in your group or family is allergic to it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on June 12, 2009, 08:45:52 am
I harvested potatoes and spring onions, and made a bad @$$ potato soup. I'm also looking into building a seaworthy fishing vessel to fish the atlantic and the river by my house for food WTSHTF. We have everything from sunfish, salmon, and trout, to Giant river cats, and Bull sharks in the river. We also have a warm water current just off shore that allows us to have fish from the tropics and alittle further out; cold water fish like herring (one of my favorites, smoked[also called kippers]), and polluck. Hopefully I'll have it built by next year's haddock season.

Consider the Gloucester Gull dory.
It rows very well, but it is not meant for sail.
It can handle some surf work and carries enough for light fishing.
http://instantboats.com/downeastdories/showdory.php?dory=ggull
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 12, 2009, 03:41:54 pm
Cant say it was done today but the past couple days have put a bunch of food into storage. 100# rice 42# pasta 25 # of sugar &  flour, spices, oil, coffee, ect. 10 cans of chicken, 8 big cans of baked beans,
Pretty happy with the haul now Dad is working on getting it to fit either in the back seat of the pickup or in totes in the bed since I will be driving through a bunch of rain getting back home.

Made 4# of jerky and sealing it in vacuum bags its pretty good. Sealed up 4 bags of sugar cured ham might go to store and get 4 more bags. There is about 1# of ham maybe a bit more. I know its enough for 2 meals for 2.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: BaptistJihad on June 12, 2009, 03:48:03 pm
Set up an appointment for tomorrow to get a quote on drilling a well. Have started researching deep water hand pumps. Although we have 2 swimming pools and I hate to spend cash right now, clean, fresh water could become quite the commondity. And it makes sense for long-term prep.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 12, 2009, 06:54:11 pm
Small prep:  Four more magazines and two double OWB magazine holsters for my Glock 19 arrived today from cheaperthandirt.com.  I immediately used one of the magazine holsters to free up my left front pant pocket that had contained a heavy-duty LED flashlight and an extra Glock magazine beside my keys.  Without the bulging pocket I can now bend at the waist ;-)

 I had purchased an IWB magazine holster but was not happy with it for all-day use because the magazine's bottom lip pressed painfully into my side.  The new double holsters are black nylon canvass and will be hidden for the most part.  If they are exposed, their contents will not be immediately recognizable. 

I will have to modify the retention strap that holds my flashlight in because it likes to slip off to one side.  However, I will wait to do this till my order of two much brighter LED flashlights arrives so I can be sure the modification will fit. 

BTW, a good, strong flashlight should be considered an indispensable part carrying a sidearm since most defensive sidearm use occurs at night.  You want to be sure of a threat before you shoot and you also want to have a good sight picture before you shoot. Blind shots have resulted in too many tragedies.  The LED revolution in flashlights has made it easy to pack plenty of candle power around with you without the weight and bulk or even the cost of Maglite incandescents.  Here's a small 250-lumen one for under $17:   http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16240  Backup batteries and solar battery chargers are vital too for the long term.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 12, 2009, 08:48:36 pm
I carry a Surefire 6p or a Streamlight Scorpion.The way ta fit the retention flap is/if it's a velcro type is ta heat the flap up and using the lamp side make a impression on the flap,this should cause the center of the flap ta fit across the lense surface.While the outside of the flap will ride the lamps body. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 12, 2009, 09:07:25 pm
Just a suggestion...

Povidone-iodine in any form may do more harm than good, especially for non intact skin. It actually destroys living cells and can retard healing. Unless you are contemplating doing major surgery, there are many far better things to use - especially on wounds. Hospitals no longer use betadine or similar products for long term central line care, for instance. --- or at least they didn't the last time I was involved.  I've seen it come and go several times, regardless of the known outcomes.

Also, some people are very allergic to this form of iodine and a full blown allergic reaction is not something you are going to cope with well in a boondock or SHTF situation. If you insist on using it, find out NOW if anyone in your group or family is allergic to it.

Thanks for the info, MamaLiberty. I also have other things in my First Aid kit, and I'll use them before that. It comes in two SMALL foil packets like an individual serving of ketchup, but much smaller. I also have neosporin.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 12, 2009, 10:46:19 pm
I carry a Surefire 6p or a Streamlight Scorpion.The way ta fit the retention flap is/if it's a velcro type is ta heat the flap up and using the lamp side make a impression on the flap,this should cause the center of the flap ta fit across the lense surface.While the outside of the flap will ride the lamps body. Ought 7.

I'll give it a try.  If I screw up on one holster, I've got another I can try my luck on.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 13, 2009, 02:17:32 am
Do it SLOW,1 is none and 2 is 1. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on June 13, 2009, 02:35:11 am
Bought an 8 pack of D-cell batteries and a 20-pack of AA batteries.  Also bought a bag of apples, cause they looked tasty.  :)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on June 13, 2009, 02:25:43 pm
Set up an appointment for tomorrow to get a quote on drilling a well. Have started researching deep water hand pumps. Although we have 2 swimming pools and I hate to spend cash right now, clean, fresh water could become quite the commondity. And it makes sense for long-term prep.


I have a "Simple Pump" set at 200 feet.  Our next step is to add a motor and solar panel.
I can recommend it highly.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 13, 2009, 09:25:41 pm
I have a "Simple Pump" set at 200 feet.  Our next step is to add a motor and solar panel.
I can recommend it highly.

Quote

Have you got pix?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: synchro on June 13, 2009, 09:34:35 pm
No, but they do.

http://www.simplepump.com/
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Zookeeper on June 14, 2009, 12:52:38 am
Bought 10 cases of pint jars and 7 cases Quart jars. Come on tomato's!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 14, 2009, 02:08:04 am
No, but they do.

http://www.simplepump.com/

do you know where I can get cheap exterior grade plywood, and a small bilge pump?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 14, 2009, 03:04:43 am
I don't know your A/O,around here we have "Lumber Salvage" yards,that might be your ticket. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 14, 2009, 03:25:07 am
I don't know your A/O,around here we have "Lumber Salvage" yards,that might be your ticket. Ought 7.

Just south of Ft Bragg, NC.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 14, 2009, 03:52:21 am
Buncombe county.We got plenty of "yards" here. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on June 14, 2009, 11:09:59 am
Developed the first draft of my pasture chickens label.


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on June 15, 2009, 12:43:21 am
No, but they do.

http://www.simplepump.com/

do you know where I can get cheap exterior grade plywood, and a small bilge pump?
Guard Duck 

IF the plywood is for the canoe you mentioned you don't want plain exterior plywood.
You want marine grade plywood.  The glues are different.
Marine grade plywood is made to be wet in salt or fresh water, the glue is water proof.
Regular exterior plywood will separate and fall apart [ delaminate] if it is allowed to sit and soak in water.
The exterior plywood glue is water resistant  NOT water proof.
Unless you plan on soaking the whole canoe in epoxy resin to make it "kinda-waterproof" but even that is not recommended by any reputable boat manufacturer.
Marine grade plywood can be had in 14 foot sheets so that the entire canoe is made with one sheet.

The canoes made of regular plywood and epoxied or painted don't last more than two or three years even as a part time boat.
If you had planned on having the boat in the water a lot .... use marine grade plywood.
It is more than twice as expensive BUT it won't fall apart on you ten miles from the beach.


Just so you'll know ....

edit to correct spelling
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: da gooch on June 15, 2009, 12:47:55 am
Developed the first draft of my pasture chickens label.




With Eggs Ackley "trucking" on the label.  Cool  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on June 15, 2009, 02:26:40 am
The canoes made of regular plywood and epoxied or painted don't last more than two or three years even as a part time boat.
If you had planned on having the boat in the water a lot .... use marine grade plywood.
It is more than twice as expensive BUT it won't fall apart on you ten miles from the beach.

OK, so it sounds like if one were to make a small canoe out of exterior grade plywood and then epoxy and/or paint it to help "sort of waterproof it", it would serve as a "oh crap, the bridge is out, and I need to cross this river to make it home" type emergency vehicle, but that's about it.  Then you have to figure out a way to carry it around with you every day in order for it to be useful in that "oh crap" situation, which means an inflatable raft is probably a better idea.  :P
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 15, 2009, 03:54:05 am
Actually I plan to fish from it, and use it for transportation, to get to my bussiness downriver on Pleasure Island NC, in the town of Carolina Beach. So I'll use the marine plywood, as gooch says. I'd only said exterior grade because I read in a boat builder's forum that it was almost as good.

This discussion would probably be better in the sailing thread under gulching/etc...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on June 15, 2009, 06:41:12 am
For a light canoe this one is a beauty.
https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=182
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on June 15, 2009, 08:47:07 pm
FINALLY finished scraping the deer hide.  The flesh side looks like crap and there are grease burns.  I'll let you know how it looks when tanned.  The fur side looks great.

Took the boy camping this weekend.  We hiked, learned about building a fire properly, and learned an important lesson about campfire cooking.  Putting your meat directly on the coals is indeed a great way to cook a steak.  Unless the wood is a resinous pine.  In which case your dinner will taste like turpentine.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 15, 2009, 09:44:20 pm
Picked up ten more tomato cages at Home Depot to augment last year's dozen.  I've got 18 green peppers ready to stick in the ground.  Gotta have my salsa!

Earlier I wrapped three electronic gadgets in EMP-protective Faraday cages against the chance of high-altitude themonuclear blast or Carrington event solar storm.  One was composed of the recommended three layers of aluminum foil seperated by two layers of plastic to make nesting Faraday cages.  The others I put into nesting 7-mil aluminized Mylar bags, which are polyethylene inside, polyester outside and vapor-deposited aluminum in between.  I may be assuming too much here so if anybody knows better, please set me straight.

My two Cree-LED-powered flashlights arrived from Hong Kong today and boy are they impressive!  I was a little disappointed at the size of the package and the flashlights until I dropped an AA battery into each and tested them.  What they lack in size they more than make up for in lumens.  One is a SacredFire that's 4" long and the other, an AKOray, is even brighter and only 3 13/16" long, plus it has a strobe function to momentarily addle an assailant.  The AKOray has already replaced my 4 1/2" Dorcy in my every-day-carry and it weighs less than half as much.

AKOray:  http://www2.dealextreme.com:8080/details.dx/sku.16607
SacredFire: http://www2.dealextreme.com:8080/details.dx/sku.20756
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 15, 2009, 10:23:52 pm
Picked up ten more tomato cages at Home Depot to augment last year's dozen.  I've got 18 green peppers ready to stick in the ground.  Gotta have my salsa!
Earlier I wrapped three electronic gadgets in EMP-protective Faraday cages against the chance of high-altitude themonuclear blast or Carrington event solar storm.  One was composed of the recommended three layers of aluminum foil seperated by two layers of plastic to make nesting Faraday cages.  The others I put into nesting 7-mil aluminized Mylar bags, which are polyethylene inside, polyester outside and vapor-deposited aluminum in between.  I may be assuming too much here so if anybody knows better, please set me straight.
My two Cree-LED-powered flashlights arrived from Hong Kong today and boy are they impressive!  I was a little disappointed at the size of the package and the flashlights until I dropped an AA battery into each and tested them.  What they lack in size they more than make up for in lumens.  One is a SacredFire that's 4" long and the other, an AKOray, is even brighter and only 3 13/16" long, plus it has a strobe function to momentarily addle an assailant.  The AKOray has already replaced my 4 1/2" Dorcy in my every-day-carry and it weighs less than half as much.
AKOray:  http://www2.dealextreme.com:8080/details.dx/sku.16607
SacredFire: http://www2.dealextreme.com:8080/details.dx/sku.20756

Thanks, Mac. I needed that info on Faraday cages and the aluminum/mylar bags. And the reference to the strobe as a defense weapon was good too.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on June 19, 2009, 11:11:03 am
We did a taste-test of a can of freeze-dried seafood chowder.  I thought it would be good to store a few cans since it would add variety to a limited diet.  We both thought it was fairly decent, so may order more soon.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 19, 2009, 11:28:34 am
We did a taste-test of a can of freeze-dried seafood chowder.  I thought it would be good to store a few cans since it would add variety to a limited diet.  We both thought it was fairly decent, so may order more soon.

Was it the Mountain House?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on June 19, 2009, 05:46:45 pm
We did a taste-test of a can of freeze-dried seafood chowder.  I thought it would be good to store a few cans since it would add variety to a limited diet.  We both thought it was fairly decent, so may order more soon.

Was it the Mountain House?

Yes, it was.  We're camped at about 7200 feet right now, so I added a little more water than the directions called for, and let it sit a little longer, but it was still pretty good.  I wouldn't be expecting gourmet meals from a can of freeze-dried anything, but the quality of freeze-dried food has come a long way since it first hit the market.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 19, 2009, 10:06:15 pm
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Yes, it was.  We're camped at about 7200 feet right now, so I added a little more water than the directions called for, and let it sit a little longer, but it was still pretty good.  I wouldn't be expecting gourmet meals from a can of freeze-dried anything, but the quality of freeze-dried food has come a long way since it first hit the market.
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We have 4x 10# cans in storage. Some of the MH sucks - this passed the "I'll eat it instead of standard canned" test.   

Not all does.

Test it, rotate it, and store it.


....and realize the sodium levels need looking after for "the long term stuff".

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on June 19, 2009, 11:09:57 pm
For testing, get the MH pouches.This will allow you ta "test" a recipe at a lower $$ cost and save youse money.If it sucks move on ta another one.I've never run across a MH product that was "terrible",some are better than others/ect.The shelf life and quality of their product is a major +. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 19, 2009, 11:26:42 pm
We have a few MH freeze-dried Ice cream sammiches each stuck away in our preps. I decided that we should find a "treat" hidden away with our beans and rice once in a while. Also freeze-dried pineapple chunks and banana chips.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 20, 2009, 01:45:07 am
My tomato soup is made from a can of goat's milk, 2 cans of tomato sauce, and garlic salt pepper and parsley to taste. Mix thuroughly while warming gently.

This is a soup that can be made entirely out of stored and canned or dried goods.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 20, 2009, 08:41:54 am
We have a few MH freeze-dried Ice cream sammiches each stuck away in our preps. I decided that we should find a "treat" hidden away with our beans and rice once in a while. Also freeze-dried pineapple chunks and banana chips.

I started to do the same thin after reading "Alas  Babylon" again. I also stuffed away some hard candy for smokers, ear clearing after/before an ear infection, kidlets, and general satisfaction.
Cocoa powder is very versatile as well and can be incorporated into a lot of different recipes adding to the "treat" factor. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 20, 2009, 10:09:25 am
If you are still considering whether to buy a handgun and acquire training in its use, a big consideration could be the amount of time and money you would have to devote to practice.  One frequent suggestion is to "dry-fire" your pistol at home but that practice has resulted in some bad habits that have gotten police officers killed in gun fights.  I have found a solution to all three concerns, time, cost, and habits but it requires a modest up-front expenditure.

I bought a GL9 (Glock 19) AirSoft pistol from Red Wolf AirSoft for daily drawing/aiming/firing practice at home instead of dry-firing or taking my real 9mm Glock 19 to the range every day.  I recently received a propane adapter and light silicone lubricant I bought from airsplat.com so I can save money over the "Green Gas" that's recommended by AirSoft.  You just fill a chamber in the pistol magazine from a canister of camp stove propane.

I had never fired a gas-powered AirSoft before and wondered if its plastic BB's would have enough force to penetrate a paper target.  I was dubious about simple propane canister pressure having much power as a propellant without being combusted.  I also wondered if the BB's would fragment, making ammo recycling impossible.  How silly my concerns were!

The plastic BB's easily penetrated two hanging sheets of paper and dented the wood behind them, one even bouncing back through both paper sheets.  The BB's remained intact. I figure the pistol could easily blind someone and might well penetrate skin.  In a pinch it could probably deter an assailant if hits were rapidly scored on the face.  (I don't recommend anyone ever putting themselves in the position to find out.  Carry a real sidearm!)

Next step is to build an indoor target range from a cardboard box.  The opening will face me and a photocopied paper target will be hung in the opening with soft terry rags hung behind to catch the BB's so I can re-use them.  If I shoot daily, I can increase my speed and accuracy for real defensive shooting without expending costly and hard-to-find ammo.  The "toy" pistol has realistic weight, slide action, and close-range accuracy but negligible kick and muzzle lift, so less frequent real ammo sessions are still needed to practice sight re-alignment on the target.

I figure it is worth the initial cost to gain long-term savings and avoid the hazardous habits associated with dry-firing practice: No slide cocking between shots, no live ammo ejected onto the ground, uninterrupted trigger squeezes. Plus, there is accuracy feedback from target hits, no daily lead exposure, and an enormous amount of time will be saved -- five minutes versus maybe an hour for the range.  Most importantly, the AirSoft capability will support my intention to practice daily whereas having to go to the range every day would be a major deterrent.

By the way,  something you should do soon, even before buying a handgun, is apply for a concealed carry permit.  In my state it costs $20 for them to conduct a two week background check.  Assuming you are not a felon, have no restraining orders against you, are of age, and have no history of actual mental illness, pistol permits are granted almost automatically here but your state may require passing a training course or other requirements.

When I applied for mine I followed an adviser's suggestion on what to fill in for "Reason for request."
I wrote "for all lawful purposes."

There is a proposal in my state to increase permit fees by 500% for out-of-state applicants that many gun-rights advocates view as a prelude to more restrictive measures for in-state applicants.  I am more concerned with sudden crisis conditions sparking extreme clampdown measures.  Either way applying at once would be a good move.  You don't want to be caught in a crisis with no recourse.

Okay, here's an update.  This is what my "indoor firing range" looks like:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on June 22, 2009, 10:45:50 am
After spending an afternoon picking strawberries (not my own unfortunately) the wife and I made five pints of strawberry jam.  It was absolutely amazing how good those berries tasted vs the store-bought ones.  My youngest probably ate her weight in the berries this past weekend. :laugh:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on June 22, 2009, 12:05:59 pm
After spending an afternoon picking strawberries (not my own unfortunately) the wife and I made five pints of strawberry jam.  It was absolutely amazing how good those berries tasted vs the store-bought ones.  My youngest probably ate her weight in the berries this past weekend. :laugh:

How cool is that?

 :laugh:

Blackberries will be out again soon enough, I hope the extra rain this year makes them sweeter then they were last season.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 22, 2009, 02:02:33 pm
We have a few MH freeze-dried Ice cream sammiches each stuck away in our preps. I decided that we should find a "treat" hidden away with our beans and rice once in a while. Also freeze-dried pineapple chunks and banana chips.

I started to do the same thin after reading "Alas  Babylon" again. I also stuffed away some hard candy for smokers, ear clearing after/before an ear infection, kidlets, and general satisfaction.
Cocoa powder is very versatile as well and can be incorporated into a lot of different recipes adding to the "treat" factor. mutti
How do you store it? I put some jolly ranchers in a ziplock bag a year ago and they were soft. It was a test to see if it would work ...nope
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 22, 2009, 06:39:59 pm
We have a few MH freeze-dried Ice cream sammiches each stuck away in our preps. I decided that we should find a "treat" hidden away with our beans and rice once in a while. Also freeze-dried pineapple chunks and banana chips.

I started to do the same thin after reading "Alas  Babylon" again. I also stuffed away some hard candy for smokers, ear clearing after/before an ear infection, kidlets, and general satisfaction.
Cocoa powder is very versatile as well and can be incorporated into a lot of different recipes adding to the "treat" factor. mutti
How do you store it? I put some jolly ranchers in a ziplock bag a year ago and they were soft. It was a test to see if it would work ...nope

Food Saver. So far the furthest "test" is 4 years (jolly ranchers, werthers, good n plenty, lemon heads). As long as the temp remains below about 95F - no goo or loss of texture.

mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: RightArmOfWyoming on June 22, 2009, 09:42:58 pm
Bought 40 moving boxes.

Reserved a big-ass truck.

MWD
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on June 22, 2009, 09:56:25 pm
Dehydrated some food.

Bought the last box of 22LR that the Winnemucca Wally World had in stock.  We're not locals, but the clerk must have liked our faces. ;>)  We were just looking at the mostly-empty ammo shelves.  She asked what we were looking for; several calibers were out, but when we said 22LR, she pulled a box out from under the counter and said she had found it "misplaced" that morning. 

Looked at some real estate in the area.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 23, 2009, 12:19:26 am
Food Saver. So far the furthest "test" is 4 years (jolly ranchers, werthers, good n plenty, lemon heads). As long as the temp remains below about 95F - no goo or loss of texture.
mutti

Good idea. I like Root Beer Barrels. And the last time we went to teh candy store, I got these delicious coffee hard candies. They taste like coffee with cream and sugar. Yum.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 23, 2009, 07:53:01 am
Food Saver. So far the furthest "test" is 4 years (jolly ranchers, werthers, good n plenty, lemon heads). As long as the temp remains below about 95F - no goo or loss of texture.
mutti

Good idea. I like Root Beer Barrels. And the last time we went to teh candy store, I got these delicious coffee hard candies. They taste like coffee with cream and sugar. Yum.

OT
 :thumbsup:   (and would those be Coffee Nips?) Notice that the ones I chose had no milk/milk by products so I think you'll have to ship the Coffee NIps to me - that way - I - uh - can - run a trial for you! If they don't survive...
OT

Borrowed a neighbors wood splitter to get a jump start on firewood. mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 23, 2009, 08:02:46 am

Camouflaged my rifles


Cheating a little here.  I did this maybe three weeks ago but I just learned how to add images to my posts and wanted to share this.

After wiping down the rifles with alcohol to remove any oil and taping off the bores and the already-camouflaged scopes, I sprayed four base colors on the stocks and barrels, red primer, gray primer, self-etching green primer, and dark olive drab.  Then I picked leaves from various weeds growing nearby, laid them on the stock and barrel, and sprayed over them with either desert tan or dark olive drab depending on the background color.

Once the quick-drying paint was ready I turned the rifles over and gave the same treatment to the other side.  As an afterthought I wiped down some magazines and gave them a camo treatment too.

The top rifle is a Ruger 10-22 and the bottom one is a Ruger Mini-14. (The split wood is pine for an outdoor fire pit.)

A tip of the hat to the Viking Preparedness blog (http://vikingpreparedness.blogspot.com/) for instructions on rifle decoration.  My firearms instructor, a police lieutennant, had also encouraged "personalizing" my weapons.  Several of his were camouflaged.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 23, 2009, 09:00:40 am
mutti- Don't know if they are "coffee nips", I'll have to check the name the next time I go there. They are sugar-free, though. I just remembered that a local grocery chain has bulk candy also. Will check that out when I go to the city.

McClarin- that's a very nice job of camoflaging those rifles- better than most or all of the commercially done ones that I've seen.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 23, 2009, 03:46:52 pm
Food Saver. So far the furthest "test" is 4 years (jolly ranchers, werthers, good n plenty, lemon heads). As long as the temp remains below about 95F - no goo or loss of texture.
mutti

Good idea. I like Root Beer Barrels. And the last time we went to teh candy store, I got these delicious coffee hard candies. They taste like coffee with cream and sugar. Yum.

OT
 :thumbsup:   (and would those be Coffee Nips?) Notice that the ones I chose had no milk/milk by products so I think you'll have to ship the Coffee NIps to me - that way - I - uh - can - run a trial for you! If they don't survive...
OT

Borrowed a neighbors wood splitter to get a jump start on firewood. mutti
Thank you I just got  the vacuum sealing baggies. so far they seal up tight.
ooooooo I forgot about root beer barrels. mmmm  coffee nips?????
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: sharp_shepherd on June 23, 2009, 04:12:47 pm
That is a nice job McClarin.  I have the paint to do my own but it's down the priority list right now. 

For me, i've been spending alot of time at our new land that we purchased (CASH).  I finally got paid from a huge job and paid cash for a property that has set empty for a long time.  The house is total trash but it has two wells one of which i know is working.  My wife wants to knock the house down and start over and i tell her that knocking it down cost money.  Money i don't want to spend on that right now.  We have many other things to do to the property.  So now at least we have a place even if it isn't the best in the world and it's paid for.  When the 29 acre property first went on the market they were asking just under $80K and I just paid $26K.  They had dropped it to $39K when the real estate agent said give me an offer.  When I did he didn't think it would fly.  Two days later it was a go and when we went to closing we brought cash.  The seller and the agent (who knows me) was totally shocked when I brought in cash.  My wife thought i was showing off and i was a little.  Isn't that the way they did it in the older and much wiser times? 

So anyway, we now have a place and i'm to busy to spend much time online.  We are still working so we can hurry and buy the other things we need before trouble hits.  If it doesn't oh well and if it does...oh well.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on June 23, 2009, 04:16:54 pm
SS you might want to talk to your local fire dept. Round these parts they will do a controlled burn and use it as a training tool. You get your house burned to the ground and they get training.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 23, 2009, 05:33:54 pm
ordered some long lasting yeast. FD whole eggs, FD raspberry  and FD celery.
Found a great candy site and put in cart some lemon drop, root beer barrells, pepermint puffs, and werthers. Was going to get some filled raspberry but they were sold out  :huh:
http://www.candyfavorites.com/index.php
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: amagi on June 23, 2009, 06:08:24 pm
I bought a book called "Natural Remedies for Natural Disasters".  Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. 
I also signed up for an herbalism class given in a local park based on the plants they grow there.  I have been looking for some time for an herb class or book based on local plants.  It is a three part series starting this week.  I think I need a new notebook.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 23, 2009, 09:56:48 pm
SS you might want to talk to your local fire dept. Round these parts they will do a controlled burn and use it as a training toolway to run you out of town. You get your house burned to the ground and they get trainingsouvenirs.
Yeah. They did that to me while I was at work one day.[/b]
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on June 23, 2009, 10:01:16 pm
SS you might want to talk to your local fire dept. Round these parts they will do a controlled burn and use it as a training toolway to run you out of town. You get your house burned to the ground and they get trainingsouvenirs.
Yeah. They did that to me while I was at work one day.[/b]

That sucks my friend. Sounds like a story that deserves it's own thread.  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on June 23, 2009, 11:20:35 pm
That is a nice job McClarin.  I have the paint to do my own but it's down the priority list right now. 

For me, i've been spending alot of time at our new land that we purchased (CASH).  I finally got paid from a huge job and paid cash for a property that has set empty for a long time.  The house is total trash but it has two wells one of which i know is working.  My wife wants to knock the house down and start over and i tell her that knocking it down cost money.  Money i don't want to spend on that right now.  We have many other things to do to the property.  So now at least we have a place even if it isn't the best in the world and it's paid for.  When the 29 acre property first went on the market they were asking just under $80K and I just paid $26K.  They had dropped it to $39K when the real estate agent said give me an offer.  When I did he didn't think it would fly.  Two days later it was a go and when we went to closing we brought cash.  The seller and the agent (who knows me) was totally shocked when I brought in cash.  My wife thought i was showing off and i was a little.  Isn't that the way they did it in the older and much wiser times? 

So anyway, we now have a place and i'm to busy to spend much time online.  We are still working so we can hurry and buy the other things we need before trouble hits.  If it doesn't oh well and if it does...oh well.

SS:

I'd like to say I did as well as you on the sales price but I'd be lying. I paid "mark to market" but with Owner finance. Its worth about 4 times what we paid so that works for me. You didn't post photos so I don't know what "total trash" means to you. On my property, actually a piece of it, there was/is a "house". I refer to it as "Neo-Peckerwood", AKA "Butt Ugly"... I was inclined to get rid of it but got cold feet because of what I thought was coming 7 years ago. I decided to improve it, not enough really but what I felt comfortable investing, and we now live in it. Free and clear is a good thing today. My logic is that if I can afford to build the "house on the hill", I can either rent or let a family member or "significant Freedomista other" live in it for some consideration. If not, we'll hunker down. If the "total trash" can be fixed up sufficiently to survive and/or carry a friend, I'd look hard at what might be done.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 24, 2009, 01:22:34 am
Cool story Dude. :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 24, 2009, 05:46:24 pm
Protected my Toughbook last night.

I had earlier safeguarded a hand-crank/solar shortwave radio and a 30-Watt thin-film solar electric system inside nesting Faraday cages against the possibility of EMP from a thermonuclear detonation or a Carrington-level solar storm.  Last night it was the Panasonic Toughbook laptop computer's turn, along with two AC power adapters for the unit.  That's my aluminunum foil investment in the background.

First I wrap the device(s) in two plastic grocery bags, then wrap completely in aluminum foil.  Then I repeat the process twice.  Finally I wrap in several plastic layers, taped with clear packing tape, and slap a label on the outside. "Faraday 3x" is my shorthand for three nesting Faraday cages, the recommended level of protection against EMP and related potentials.

I don't think batteries would be affected but I'm wondering if I should put my 3kw inverter away in this manner.  Anybody know?

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mr. Dare on June 24, 2009, 06:04:37 pm
Are you grounding your faraday cages? I don't think they will work otherwise. The magnetic pulse needs to induce a current that needs to be bled to ground, otherwise the magnetic pulse will just pass through with it's energy in tact to work it's magic elsewhere.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on June 24, 2009, 06:52:29 pm
About grounding --

If you are using something like an ammo box for a Faraday cage,
be sure that the lid is grounded (metal to metal contact) with the
body of the box. Painted hinges are questionable. Rubber gaskets
keep out the water, but are not a grounding contact.

Assuming you are using such a box, it would be a good idea to
attach "grounding straps" on the sides of the lid to the sides of
the box. The idea is to provide a low resistance path between
the box and the lid, so that the EMP (voltage) wave will pass
that way rather than through the space of the box.

Grounding the box to 'ground' itself is not a bad idea either, but
I would make that a second priority after grounding the lid to
the body of the box.

Good luck.

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on June 27, 2009, 07:10:48 pm
Something that I'm in the process of doing...

I'm having my varicose veins removed.  I had them collapsed (left leg last week, right leg this week), and am scheduled to have them removed completely in about a month.  I'm having some issues with my left leg, and the doctor wants time to let me heal up properly.

In the meantime, I can do my normal things.  I can even go to the gym and exercise, provided that I don't do anything that unduly works my legs (no elliptical machine, or even treadmill, no ladder drills, no leg presses or squats) AND I stay out of the pool.  Kinduva bummer, as I love to swim, but I've got small incisions all over my legs, and they can be conduits for infection.

Prayers and good thoughts are much appreciated.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 27, 2009, 07:36:11 pm
Good idea I suppose, getting optional surgery done before TSHTF.  I'd have several things done if I were a bit more prosperous, maybe even preventative appendectomy.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 27, 2009, 07:44:22 pm
Are you grounding your faraday cages? I don't think they will work otherwise. The magnetic pulse needs to induce a current that needs to be bled to ground, otherwise the magnetic pulse will just pass through with it's energy in tact to work it's magic elsewhere.

My source for this procedure was a book or illustrated paper I was able to read online by a Lawrence Livermore Labs scientist and he recommended NOT grounding the triple-nested Faraday cages.  In a google search for EMP Faraday cages I came across conflicting advice on whether to ground or not.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on June 27, 2009, 07:44:42 pm
Picked up two jerry cans and a 5 gallon gasoline can in tip-top shape at a garage sale for $7.00  . Also a shovel for $2.00 .  :mellow:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: spatter on June 27, 2009, 09:55:54 pm
Ordered a case of Strike Anywhere Matches and a votive candle-making starter kit.  As long as I've got enough light to read or knit, I'm happy.

Will order a couple of dual fuel Coleman stoves and lanterns before the end of the weekend.

Working through my list...

I've been gathering some things and reading books for years.  "Cap & Trade" is speeding things up...or just scaring me smart.

Spatter
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on June 27, 2009, 10:23:54 pm
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My source for this procedure was a book or illustrated paper I was able to read online by a Lawrence Livermore Labs scientist and he recommended NOT grounding the triple-nested Faraday cages.  In a google search for EMP Faraday cages I came across conflicting advice on whether to ground or not.

Huh. Ok. Well, just for comparison's sake, here's my thinking:

* Radio waves are reflected from earth electrical ground.
* A Faraday cage grounded to the earth should have the same electrical potential as the earth itself.
* An object which has the same electrical potential as it's background, should not provide a path
   more attractive than the ground itself.

Maybe that last point is not important, but my hunch is that at worst, you've wasted a copper clad
steel rod. :dontknow:

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on June 28, 2009, 01:56:00 am
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Prayers and good thoughts are much appreciated.
prayers being sent. A lady at work came back after have her leg cut and getting 27 stitches.....ended back in the hospital with Ecoli....yeap got it from the calves.
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"Cap & Trade" is speeding things up...or just scaring me smart
I really wasnt paying much attention to it untill Shoer said that it will stop him from buying his truck.......WELL HAIL that was a slap in the face. As I told him how can these people put so many people out of work? Do they even know how many dreams they are destroying?
I am trying to make sure have enough food for atleast a year ...almost there. After the 4th they put meat on sale and I will be getting a bunch and canning. Wont have enough for meat every night but once a week is better than none.
Gotta keep after Shoer to get by twin falls to pick up the last of the beans.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on June 28, 2009, 02:58:35 pm
Planted my late garden, tomatoes, peppers, squash, pumpkins ect.. Dug 48 lbs. of taters. Three rows to go, then I am gonna retill the rows and plant my late taters.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 28, 2009, 03:03:07 pm
I'm about to go test out some new ammo for my airgun.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: socalserf on June 29, 2009, 03:32:00 pm
I've been running the stairs for 30-40 minutes a day.
Also doing light weights, and core exercises.

I checked my BP and pulse rate yesterday at the big box store and got a reading of 115 over 70 with 55 pulse rate. Not bad for 46 years.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on June 29, 2009, 03:57:21 pm
Planted my late garden, tomatoes, peppers, squash, pumpkins ect.. Dug 48 lbs. of taters. Three rows to go, then I am gonna retill the rows and plant my late taters.

Wow! I dug taters also, but only 3 rows this morning. Another 19 to go (they are short rows), but the kidlets like to help (and eat) the result. German potato salad with dinner.

A neighbor (who enjoys cheese, milk, etc) brought us a propane grill that he and his father refurbished.  I am so thankful!  Not only for the grill, but that they took the time to do something for our family from their family. Nice.  Of course he sort of looked at me funny when I told him I named the grill "IRS" - you know so I can "fire them" - okay bad joke!

Mutti
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: tex703 on June 29, 2009, 05:33:13 pm
I went to the dollar store and bought more medical supplies and to Lowe's and bought more N95 masks.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 29, 2009, 06:15:13 pm
Planted my late garden, tomatoes, peppers, squash, pumpkins ect.. Dug 48 lbs. of taters. Three rows to go, then I am gonna retill the rows and plant my late taters.

Wow! I dug taters also, but only 3 rows this morning. Another 19 to go (they are short rows), but the kidlets like to help (and eat) the result. German potato salad with dinner.

A neighbor (who enjoys cheese, milk, etc) brought us a propane grill that he and his father refurbished.  I am so thankful!  Not only for the grill, but that they took the time to do something for our family from their family. Nice.  Of course he sort of looked at me funny when I told him I named the grill "IRS" - you know so I can "fire them" - okay bad joke!

Mutti

You make Hot German potato salad?!
That's awesome!
Normally I'd ask to exchange recipies, but it has been in our family for over 150 years and my kin
would all take turns killing me if I told anyone our secret recipie.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: DPR 2006 on June 30, 2009, 01:53:17 am
Wouldn't quite call it "optional surgery".  I've had a spot on my ankle that's opened up and bled on me, looking like a fountain pen shooting dark red ink.  Freaked me out slightly.  Freaked my wife out a lot.  This is something that NEEDS to be done, no ifs, ans, or buts.  Thank God for medical insurance.

Thanks for all of you praying and sending good thoughts my way.  My legs are starting to heal up from the vein-collapsing, and I'm scheduled to go back in a month to get the veins removed.

The results so far have been good.  Though I've had some swelling in my left leg, it's being controlled with medical stockings and large doses of Ibuprofin.  I used to have near constant pain in the outside of my left knee, and now it only shows up if I've been standing for more than 8 hours.  Same with my diabetic foot pain.  From what I've heard from the staff, it only gets better once the veins are removed.  I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on June 30, 2009, 11:04:54 pm
Finally paid some attention to the com side of the survival equation: I bought a CB radio at Radio Shack.  I'll fasten the mounting bracket in my van but will use it primarily in the house hooked up to my 12-volt battery bank.  When the grid goes down and the cell towers and Internet go dead, I'll still have a means of electronic communication.  Of course it would be best to have two CB radios and wrap one in protective nesting Faraday cages so it could survive a massive solar storm (Carrington event) or nuclear blast EMP.

I'm getting my room set up for isolation in the event of rampaging flu pandemic with a more lethal mutated version.  I'll have the battery bank and radio, 12-volt cell phone adapter, 30 gallons of stored water, a couple months' canned food supply, plastic waste bags in case the water stops running, a hot plate that can plug into my battery bank via my 3kw inverter.  I wouldn't use the hotplate much since that would drain my battery bank in a hurry. Backup heating for winter is the main weakness: there is none. I need to come up with a solution.  (Are there window-mounted propane heaters like there are window-mounted air conditioners?  Just wondering.)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 30, 2009, 11:11:56 pm
I bought a VHF/wheather radio, and posted some info privacy related stuff under "The Ghost", See "The Onion Router" thread.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on June 30, 2009, 11:20:19 pm
There's a wide variety of propane heaters available - just check out the RV markets.  Lots of links here:

http://www.heatershop.com/

Standard RV propane furnaces are fairly inefficient, but there are radiant and catalytic heaters that will heat up a small space nicely.  Some can be plumbed to a large LP tank; some can use the little green LP canisters that you can buy at Wally World.  The little canisters are expensive, but can be refilled if you have the proper equipment.

We have a Buddy Heater type in our RV - you can buy them at most large hardware stores, camping supply stores, or Sportsman Warehouse-type stores.

http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24

And ALWAYS follow instructions for maintaining proper ventilation while using a propane heater.  We have a standard RV furnace and the two small portable heaters, but we NEVER run them while we're sleeping, and we ALWAYS keep a window and a vent cracked while they're running.  If you don't follow these safety instructions, you won't live to worry about your food and ammo supplies.

We also have a small catalytic heater.  It's main purpose, for us, is to help maintain the heat once we've heated the place up with a furnace or other LP heater.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on June 30, 2009, 11:26:48 pm
There's a wide variety of propane heaters available - just check out the RV markets.  Lots of links here:

http://www.heatershop.com/

Standard RV propane furnaces are fairly inefficient, but there are radiant and catalytic heaters that will heat up a small space nicely.  Some can be plumbed to a large LP tank; some can use the little green LP canisters that you can buy at Wally World.  The little canisters are expensive, but can be refilled if you have the proper equipment.

We have a Buddy Heater type in our RV - you can buy them at most large hardware stores, camping supply stores, or Sportsman Warehouse-type stores.

http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24

And ALWAYS follow instructions for maintaining proper ventilation while using a propane heater.  We have a standard RV furnace and the two small portable heaters, but we NEVER run them while we're sleeping, and we ALWAYS keep a window and a vent cracked while they're running.  If you don't follow these safety instructions, you won't live to worry about your food and ammo supplies.

We also have a small catalytic heater.  It's main purpose, for us, is to help maintain the heat once we've heated the place up with a furnace or other LP heater.

I personally prefer wood burning ones. Properly used, the room gets much toastier. Besides, I ain't ever heard of anyone making s'mores over a electric or gas heater.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on July 01, 2009, 12:13:07 am
There's a wide variety of propane heaters available - just check out the RV markets.  Lots of links here:

http://www.heatershop.com/

Standard RV propane furnaces are fairly inefficient, but there are radiant and catalytic heaters that will heat up a small space nicely.  Some can be plumbed to a large LP tank; some can use the little green LP canisters that you can buy at Wally World.  The little canisters are expensive, but can be refilled if you have the proper equipment.

We have a Buddy Heater type in our RV - you can buy them at most large hardware stores, camping supply stores, or Sportsman Warehouse-type stores.

http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24

And ALWAYS follow instructions for maintaining proper ventilation while using a propane heater.  We have a standard RV furnace and the two small portable heaters, but we NEVER run them while we're sleeping, and we ALWAYS keep a window and a vent cracked while they're running.  If you don't follow these safety instructions, you won't live to worry about your food and ammo supplies.

We also have a small catalytic heater.  It's main purpose, for us, is to help maintain the heat once we've heated the place up with a furnace or other LP heater.

Thanks for the links.  It looks like an Indirect Fired Heater may be the best OTS option but I might also make a radiant/convection window-mounted unit.  It wouldn't be as efficient as the indoor combustion heaters but I could leave it on all night while I worry about my food and ammo supplies ;-)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 01, 2009, 12:59:52 am
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I bought a CB radio at Radio Shack.  I'll fasten the mounting bracket in my van but will use it primarily in the house hooked up to my 12-volt battery bank.

Can I make a suggestion? When you get an antenna for the house, it will probably
be of the "base station" variety. This is good. Please note that this is usually a vertical
rod with a number (usually 4) rods that can be position from the base of the vertical
bit.

You really want to follow the antenna makers suggestion for the angle at which the
radials hang down. Getting the angle right will get you the most horizontal angle
from the antenna (giving you the greatest distance) and ensuring that the impedance
of the antenna matches the specified value. To get the best power transfer from the
radio to the cable to the antenna, they must all have the same impedance, which is
usually 50 ohms.

If you put the radials straight out (rather than letting them drop at a 45 degree angle),
you will launch the radio waves at a more vertical angle, which limits the range, and
changes the antenna impedance, which then causes less than optimal transfer of power
from the radio to the antenna, which will weaken your signal.

The other suggestion is to mount the house antenna as high as is practical. If you can
get the bottom of the antenna 1 wave length (11 meters in the case of CB) above the
ground, then you are good to go.  Getting it higher than that may not be helpful unless
there is something nearby which is blocking the signal.

Bear


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dspilot on July 01, 2009, 09:31:56 am
Hey guys and gals. I have been lurking here for a while, and finally registered. I found ya'll through survivalblog. Now to get five posts so I can start a new thread.

Anyhow, back on subject. I have been scoring all of the food-grade buckets that I can. The big issue there is getting them cleaned out (really just getting the smell from whatever was in them before out). I am planning on just storing drinking water in them for now until I need them for actual food storage. I am buying food for them just a little at a time. I have already put up some rice and oats in mylar sealed in buckets. A little at a time you know. Also been stocking up on ammo, and scoring all of the useful info that I can from people in the know like all of the wise folks here.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 01, 2009, 10:06:51 am
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I am planning on just storing drinking water in them for now until I need them for actual food storage.

Welcome dspilot!

You may find that the water picks up the smell of whatever was in the bucket before. Storing water in them
temporarily may be a good way of leaching the smell out if you change the water once a week for
a month or so.

If you need to use the water before the smell is completely gone, you might consider using the water first
for washing dishes or laundry, or if there is no washing to do, as cooking water, with drinking water being
the last on the list.

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on July 01, 2009, 10:34:50 am
Hey guys and gals. I have been lurking here for a while, and finally registered. I found ya'll through survivalblog. Now to get five posts so I can start a new thread.

Welcome!  I found this site through survivalblog as well.  You will find great information, awesome people and enough topics to make your head spin but it is well worth it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on July 01, 2009, 11:25:12 am
I got 3 40-foot rows of corn in three varieties that should give me a pretty good supply the entire month of October. 

Today is the first day of a 5-day weekend for me. I expect to complete the wiring of my shop, use it to build a garden fence with sprinklers on top and rebuild the axle on my sailboat trailer.  Oh yeah, I also get to shoot a practical pistol match and hope to finally get together with a pianist who has wanted to see if we can make music.

We got the time off to go camping and sailing, but the adults took over and turned it to higher long-term needs.
...Especially that part about being able to make music without electricity ;)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: kirgi07 on July 01, 2009, 03:59:15 pm
Hey guys and gals. I have been lurking here for a while, and finally registered. I found ya'll through survivalblog. Now to get five posts so I can start a new thread.

Anyhow, back on subject. I have been scoring all of the food-grade buckets that I can. The big issue there is getting them cleaned out (really just getting the smell from whatever was in them before out).

Try "sweating" them out. That's how I did it.I got 5ga pickle buckets from local delis,added a couple inches of water/seal and set them in the sun. Ought 7.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: securitysix on July 01, 2009, 04:31:19 pm
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I am planning on just storing drinking water in them for now until I need them for actual food storage.

Welcome dspilot!

You may find that the water picks up the smell of whatever was in the bucket before. Storing water in them
temporarily may be a good way of leaching the smell out if you change the water once a week for
a month or so.

If you need to use the water before the smell is completely gone, you might consider using the water first
for washing dishes or laundry, or if there is no washing to do, as cooking water, with drinking water being
the last on the list.

Bear



Don't forget watering plants as a use for the water.

being able to make music without electricity ;)

I'd feel pretty silly if the power went out permanently and all I had to play was my hard tail Stratocaster, 2 Telecasters, and my Ibanez semi-hollowbody.  That's why I have an acoustic guitar (that I'm pretty mediocre with) and a mandolin (that I'm exceptionally mediocre with). 
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on July 01, 2009, 09:18:07 pm
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I bought a CB radio at Radio Shack.  I'll fasten the mounting bracket in my van but will use it primarily in the house hooked up to my 12-volt battery bank.

Can I make a suggestion? When you get an antenna for the house, it will probably
be of the "base station" variety. This is good. Please note that this is usually a vertical
rod with a number (usually 4) rods that can be position from the base of the vertical
bit.

You really want to follow the antenna makers suggestion for the angle at which the
radials hang down. Getting the angle right will get you the most horizontal angle
from the antenna (giving you the greatest distance) and ensuring that the impedance
of the antenna matches the specified value. To get the best power transfer from the
radio to the cable to the antenna, they must all have the same impedance, which is
usually 50 ohms.

If you put the radials straight out (rather than letting them drop at a 45 degree angle),
you will launch the radio waves at a more vertical angle, which limits the range, and
changes the antenna impedance, which then causes less than optimal transfer of power
from the radio to the antenna, which will weaken your signal.

The other suggestion is to mount the house antenna as high as is practical. If you can
get the bottom of the antenna 1 wave length (11 meters in the case of CB) above the
ground, then you are good to go.  Getting it higher than that may not be helpful unless
there is something nearby which is blocking the signal.

Bear

Thanks hugely, Bear!  I'm an absolute novice and need some pointers.  I can't get 11 meters elevation without a great deal of effort but I'm not in a permanent location and will be taking the equipment with me when I relocate where I can do a maximized installation.  I'm keeping your comments in a file for reference when I get up on the roof.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on July 01, 2009, 10:34:37 pm
This may or not qualify - either way it was too cool!

I got a call about 11 am today from a neighbor. Her husband was working late (9 pm) and she got a call from her hay guy - the hay was being baled this evening could we help her load it on the trailer? Now when we had 150+ to load she was right there - no brainer - we'd be there.

There is something out here, I don't know what you'd call it - but when someone needs help things just fall together. We showed up at 6 pm and then another neighbor, another neighbor, and more. This is the first extended haying I have attended. The thwap of the bale as it tied, the thunk as it hit the ground, the whump whump as the alfalfa dissappeared into the belly of the baler to emerge a beautiful rectangle ready for plucking.. ..

Spread across the field were 11 neighbors ages 14 through 60 stacking, slinging, stacking, laughing. When we first started it was like a teenager at her first dance : a bit awkward with the promise of grace. By the time the trailers and trucks were finished it seem a rhythmic dance of joy spread across those acres. My legs fell into stride - swinging into long loping acre eating movements  from my hips - it didn't seem even a conscious effort - it was just us and the field.

 When the last Chevy vs Ford conversation over a "sody" or suds was done on the field road - it came up in conversation that our 8 yo had lost her precious kittens to a 'coon.  In a serendipitous moment a kitten was found that needed a bottle (I think there must be at least 1 a year on a farm) and a despondent  little girl to "raise 'er up" cried tears of joy.

We caravaned to put up the hay, loan a 4 wheeler, and eat some warm food under the moon while peacocks serenaded us.

Is this preparing? In a way it is. We meet and greet, share daily chores, cure each others heartaches, and go ever on to the future. We remember who did what they could (when they could) and I hope know one another better.

mutti
(kitten has no name yet. A tiger fur ball smaller than the length of my hand whose mother/litter mates disappeared 3 or 4 days ago)

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on July 02, 2009, 12:33:24 am
Mutti, that was a beautiful moment you shared with us... and the essence of how we will find beauty as well as survival in the coming years.  Joy in work. Greater joy still in shared work, shared sorrow and shared happiness.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on July 02, 2009, 04:00:03 am
I'm with you mutti.  My fondest memories from childhood were working with a group of people out in the country.  Baling hay, walking beans, repainting a barn, etc.  Sigh... How I yearn for those simpler times.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Who...me? on July 02, 2009, 08:47:53 am
Great post mutti, forging those bonds with the folks that will depend on each other in bad times is indeed preparation.

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I'm with you mutti.  My fondest memories from childhood were working with a group of people out in the country.  Baling hay, walking beans, repainting a barn, etc.  Sigh... How I yearn for those simpler times.

For me I always felt that I was a loaner slave that my parents used to build sweat credit with assorted friends and relatives. I hated when I would here my mother on the phone say "sure he will be glad to help...i'll send him right over." I thought it was some sort of conspiracy to keep me out of the woods behind the house, hunting and tracking my way through life. My older bro had asthma real bad and so was exempt and the younger aways seemed to be to young for my mother to let go.

It wasn't til I was older and being asked directly for help that I realized that it wasn't as bad as I had felt it was and I had learned quite a bit. Thats when those memories changed to the "fond" category. One of my favorites was corn freezing day. The whole family would show up and spend the day husking, blanching, cutting, eating and bagging two large pick-up trucks full of sweet corn. By the end of the day you would be sick and tired of anything that was related to corn, but we would have sweet corn for the next year til it was in season again. 

The older I get the more i miss those times.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Nomads2 on July 02, 2009, 10:13:09 am
Thanks for sharing that experience with us, mutti.  Sounds like a perfect evening, and I agree that it definitely relates to prepping.  And in a very important way.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 02, 2009, 10:21:27 am
Last night I put up a gallon of dill pickles with the cucumbers my wife
bought at the farmers market. She commented that it all went very
quickly, this time. I pointed out that now "we get it", it's pretty simple.

The other thing I did was to start the family recipe (how-to) book that
she wanted to put together. She bought the binder and pages protectors
last week, and the project got shelved for other must-dos. I thought,
well, there's no time like now.

The idea is to have one place were all of our good bits of information
can be found, rather than having them scattered all over. I started off
with recipes for pickles, sourdough starter, sourdough pancakes,
sourdough bread, my favorite turkey brine and smoke, and four
recipes for homebrew beer.

There's a lot more stuff to add, but at least it's a start.

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on July 02, 2009, 10:42:00 am
The idea is <snip> sourdough pancakes <snip>


Really?  I've never heard of such a thing.  Since I love sourdough bread I assume I would love a flat version of it with syrup!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 02, 2009, 10:53:03 am
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Quote from: Bear on Today at 10:21:27 AM
The idea is <snip> sourdough pancakes <snip>


Really?  I've never heard of such a thing.  Since I love sourdough bread I assume I would love a flat version of it with syrup!

Two big reasons for making sourdough pancakes is that it's EASY as well as tasting good.

Here's my recipe for making sourdough pancakes.

2 cups of sourdough batter (starter)
2 eggs
2 Tbsp oil
1 tsp soda
1 tsp salt
2 Tbsp sugar

Mix well, let the mix rest for 10 minutes and then use immediately.

The natural acidity of the batter reacts with the soda and makes the
batter puff up like clouds. That's why you need to let it sit for 10
minutes before using.

If you find that you're going through your maple syrup too fast, you
could make a half batch.... but why? :D

Bear

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 01:48:39 pm
Does anyone know how to make garlicy pickles?
They are like dills but have roasted gralic cloves instead of the dill.
I'm gonna start getting into canning, but I need recipies to start.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 02, 2009, 02:07:10 pm
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Does anyone know how to make garlicy pickles?
They are like dills but have roasted gralic cloves instead of the dill.
I'm gonna start getting into canning, but I need recipies to start.

8 cups water
1/2 cups pickling salt (Kosher is fine)
1 gallon pickling cucumbers 2 to 3 inches in length
6 garlic cloves
6 fresh dill heads or springs
2 Tbsp pickling spice
2 small hot peppers fresh or dried (OPTIONAL)
1 cup white vinegar

Prepare

Scrub the cucumbers and remove the blossom end. This end has enzymes which
can cause rot.

Place water, vinegar and salt into crock, stirring to dissolve the salt
Add remaining ingredients. Place weighted plate on top to hold cucumbers under surface of brine.
Cover with lid

Waiting

Keep crock in area with temps around 68F.
Check daily. Remove any scum that may form. Do this for 7 days.

Canning (optional)

Strain spices out and boil brine for 5 minutes
Immerse glass mason jars in boiling water for 10 minutes. Do the same with lids.
Into hot (now sterilized) jars place new spices and fill with cucumbers.
Fill with brine to within 1/2 inch of top.
Wipe jar rim before securing lids.
Process jars in hot water for 5 minutes.

Bear

PS: Our pickles haven't lasted long enough to be worth canning, but we might
      do it this time to get the hang of it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 02:39:38 pm
Wow! Thanks Bear!

Edit: If you'd like I could post my sweet 'n' sauerkraut recipie as a thank you gift.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on July 02, 2009, 03:01:46 pm
Quote
Quote from: Bear on Today at 10:21:27 AM
The idea is <snip> sourdough pancakes <snip>


Really?  I've never heard of such a thing.  Since I love sourdough bread I assume I would love a flat version of it with syrup!

Two big reasons for making sourdough pancakes is that it's EASY as well as tasting good.

Here's my recipe for making sourdough pancakes.

2 cups of sourdough batter (starter)
2 eggs
2 Tbsp oil
1 tsp soda
1 tsp salt
2 Tbsp sugar

Mix well, let the mix rest for 10 minutes and then use immediately.

The natural acidity of the batter reacts with the soda and makes the
batter puff up like clouds. That's why you need to let it sit for 10
minutes before using.

If you find that you're going through your maple syrup too fast, you
could make a half batch.... but why? :D

Bear


Thanks going to put this in my recipe box...  after trying it
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 02, 2009, 03:37:36 pm
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Wow! Thanks Bear!

Edit: If you'd like I could post my sweet 'n' sauerkraut recipie as a thank you gift.

Please do. All I know about making sauerkraut is that it involves cabbage and salt.
Useful tips would be very handy.

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 02, 2009, 04:18:27 pm
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Quote from: Bear on Today at 10:21:27 AM
The idea is <snip> sourdough pancakes <snip>


Really?  I've never heard of such a thing.  Since I love sourdough bread I assume I would love a flat version of it with syrup!

Two big reasons for making sourdough pancakes is that it's EASY as well as tasting good.

Here's my recipe for making sourdough pancakes.

2 cups of sourdough batter (starter)
2 eggs
2 Tbsp oil
1 tsp soda
1 tsp salt
2 Tbsp sugar

Mix well, let the mix rest for 10 minutes and then use immediately.

The natural acidity of the batter reacts with the soda and makes the
batter puff up like clouds. That's why you need to let it sit for 10
minutes before using.

If you find that you're going through your maple syrup too fast, you
could make a half batch.... but why? :D

Bear


Thanks going to put this in my recipe box... after trying it

Well it's not the best in the world but to make you maple syrup stretch you could add 2 parts corn syrup to 1 part pure maple syrup. if you let it sit for at least a week it will taste like plan maple syrup. I have even added corn syrup to half of what was left of the above mentioned imixture and it still tetaste good. Just a suggestion. By the way a 4 oz. bottle of pure maple syrup is now going for around $11 so it is pricey these days.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 02, 2009, 04:50:05 pm
Well yesterday I took my niebors goat back to them. It was too late for my garden he had eaten all the veggies. well there is always the late crops. Oh I have to take him back again he must have broken his collar to get loose.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 02, 2009, 05:05:01 pm
Quote
Well yesterday I took my niebors goat back to them. It was too late for my garden he had eaten all the veggies. well there is always the late crops. Oh I have to take him back again he must have broken his collar to get loose.

You might put "build a goat proof fence around the garden" on your to-do list.
Right now that damage is disappointing. If it happens again later it could be
a tragedy.

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on July 02, 2009, 05:52:22 pm
I read on I  forget which thread that mamma saw they were very low, if any at all of staples. I went to the store and there was only 1 bag of 25# of flour and very little sugar. Only the "special" oil was on the shelf. The shelves were pretty empty on that asle.
Makes you wonder whats going on.

Sorry about your veggies I hope it wont happen again.. I know ranchers give 2 possibly 3 times then they fix the problem themselves.
Heard roasted goat is very tasty :ph34r:
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on July 02, 2009, 06:22:41 pm
This may or not qualify - either way it was too cool!

I got a call about 11 am today from a neighbor. Her husband was working late (9 pm) and she got a call from her hay guy - the hay was being baled this evening could we help her load it on the trailer? Now when we had 150+ to load she was right there - no brainer - we'd be there.

There is something out here, I don't know what you'd call it - but when someone needs help things just fall together. We showed up at 6 pm and then another neighbor, another neighbor, and more. This is the first extended haying I have attended. The thwap of the bale as it tied, the thunk as it hit the ground, the whump whump as the alfalfa dissappeared into the belly of the baler to emerge a beautiful rectangle ready for plucking.. ..

Spread across the field were 11 neighbors ages 14 through 60 stacking, slinging, stacking, laughing. When we first started it was like a teenager at her first dance : a bit awkward with the promise of grace. By the time the trailers and trucks were finished it seem a rhythmic dance of joy spread across those acres. My legs fell into stride - swinging into long loping acre eating movements  from my hips - it didn't seem even a conscious effort - it was just us and the field.

 When the last Chevy vs Ford conversation over a "sody" or suds was done on the field road - it came up in conversation that our 8 yo had lost her precious kittens to a 'coon.  In a serendipitous moment a kitten was found that needed a bottle (I think there must be at least 1 a year on a farm) and a despondent  little girl to "raise 'er up" cried tears of joy.

We caravaned to put up the hay, loan a 4 wheeler, and eat some warm food under the moon while peacocks serenaded us.

Is this preparing? In a way it is. We meet and greet, share daily chores, cure each others heartaches, and go ever on to the future. We remember who did what they could (when they could) and I hope know one another better.

mutti
(kitten has no name yet. A tiger fur ball smaller than the length of my hand whose mother/litter mates disappeared 3 or 4 days ago)



Serious double *wow*,   there...

And the beauty of this sort of neighborly good will is that there ain't a way in hell for TPTB to tax it or otherwise steal portions of it -- they stick their noses into things and it just flat-out disappears!    :-)


Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 02, 2009, 08:09:40 pm
the sad part is he was my goat and then I sold him. My neighbors where nice enough to let him stay at my place after he got loose for a bit so he could once again breed with my girls goats. That way I would have more goats come spring. Anyway when I finally found out how to get him home, he got away from them again. Their nanny's are not ready fro breeding again just yet so he wants to be where he can have fun. This is the second year he has done this. I wish I could catch him then maybe they can put him in a good pin. I don't have the material to build a fence for my garden and the ground isn't very deep here. Hard to put in T post and lots of rock. Maybe I'll make a rock wall to fence in one or the other.

Oh by the way I know goat meat is good that is what I did with last years male.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 09:00:22 pm
I went to tech school for horticulture/landscaping and while I was there I did a good bit of dry stone wall building. My faves and the easiest were the Irish stacked stone walls. If you want to build those, there are a few things to keep in mind: 1 taper the walls so that the base is a few inches wider than the top in a waist high wall, 2 the stones should lean tward the center of the wall, 3 irish walls have no capstones like wet walls do.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 09:33:27 pm
I also went to a bulk store to day and got 50 lbs of rice, 1 gallon of olive oil, 1.5 gal canola oil, 1 case of tomato sauce, i case of green beans, fruit & veggies for canning, and some other stuff. I also got 2; 6 gallon carboys of water.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on July 02, 2009, 09:39:16 pm
Can anyone share there best source for Bashmati rice?

Thanks

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on July 02, 2009, 10:22:03 pm
Can anyone share there best source for Bashmati rice?

Thanks

We have sourced ours for the last 8 years by :

Closest mid-sized city - look for Asian Store .

May I just add that we paid $7.50 in 2000 and now must pay $ 42.12 in 2009 for 40#.

Prepare.

mutti (who went to the local grocery today who was missing 10% of canned goods with the statement/sign posted in the isles (paraphrased) -"Until next harvest we will be unable to provide this product)  Tomatoes, green beans, sweet corn and carrots.  Next as in 2009 or as in 2010? - manager could not say. It was Schnucks by the way).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 10:27:01 pm
An asian grocer near you.
The asian market by me sells huge bags of different kinds of rice @ around $1 per lb.
The bulk stores around here just have thai, long grain, medium grain, and brown rices.
The asian market has about 4x as many kinds of rice.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 02, 2009, 10:28:54 pm
Thanks Guard Duck I will keep that in mind seeings my daughter and I will most likely be making the walls.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 02, 2009, 11:00:39 pm
You are quite welcome.
If you need recipies, I eat rice all the time, and different kinds at that.
They say variety is the spice of life. If that be the case matey, then this here scallywag is a little spicey.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Hollywoodgold on July 03, 2009, 07:31:00 am
Thanks. I have shopped in Asian markets for many, many years. I was hoping to find a better source, in terms of $$$. The best I have been able to find is 20# for $17. I was hoping someone had skinned this cat already.

I have found it for .14 per pound but they require a minimum order of 1000MT! Lets see, how many 5 gal buckets is that...
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: knobster on July 03, 2009, 09:03:29 am
Purchased a few cases of tomato paste, peanut butter and raisins.  (Spouse needed some things at Costco and these three items happened to be on sale.)

And... (drum roll)  purchased my first 1/10 oz American Eagle coin.  I'm not sure why I hesitated so long.  I guess at the time I preferred spending 10 - 20 bucks on silver coins.  Now that I've got the gold fever some of my overtime pay will be going towards the glittery stuff.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: mutti on July 03, 2009, 09:10:10 am
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Lets see, how many 5 gal buckets is that...


If one rounds up, about 47 buckets.  

@ .14 per pound that would be about $307, which would save over your current cost of $1866 per MT by 20# bag.

That is a savings of over $1500 dollars.

Wonder if you could store that in metal trash cans and jury rig a seal around the top?  Just thinking!

Wish I lived closer, because I would jump in on that deal.  18,272 servings of rice - that is just amazing!

mutti

Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 03, 2009, 11:50:24 am
I went to check on some fertilizer and found that it has gone way up in price. I guess the Chickens and other animals I own will proved th Ammonia Nitrat I need.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bear on July 03, 2009, 01:03:05 pm
Today I'm smoking beef jerky. If it turns out well, I'll post
the recipe over in Foods and provide a link here.

Also today, the wife is going to take a stab at canning black berries.
I think I have more confidence in her ability to get it right than she does.

The wife suggested we go shooting tomorrow on the fourth!  :love4:
Can't think of a better way to celebrate Independence Day.

Bear
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: slidemansailor on July 03, 2009, 01:23:47 pm

The wife suggested we go shooting tomorrow on the fourth!  :love4:
Can't think of a better way to celebrate Independence Day.

Bear


Fine point. We intend to shoot a practical pistol match on our way to a friend's annual 4th of July event. We'll miss the parade, but they'll all miss the shooting practice.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 03, 2009, 02:38:55 pm
I bought a bunch of the "legal" fireworks, and when I add my own to that I'll have my own show in my gravel front yard. It will include blanks in a muzzle loader, the fountains I bought, and hommade roman candles(which are illegal here as is everything but sparklers smokebombs and fountains).
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on July 04, 2009, 10:03:30 pm
bought 5 baby rabbits for $1 each. I am looking for plans on a expandable hutch with a worm bed mounted below it.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: dogsledder54 on July 04, 2009, 11:08:43 pm
Checked with the local (city-owned) electric company about their summer/winter rates. Found that in the winter, they give a discount if you are all-electric, or if your use of electricity in winter is 200% of your summer usage. (Which mine is.) So I get the discount. I think it is 25%.
They also have a program to sell 55 gallon rain barrels. A kit of some kind is $25, and a pre-made one is $50 . So I will be checking into getting a kit.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 05, 2009, 01:24:23 am
My fireworks were AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Rob25 on July 05, 2009, 04:47:45 am
I've been watching youtube all night on various topics such as primitive fishing, hunting/trapping and Bug out gear.. Some very good ideas. Some obvious ones which I smacked myself for not having thought of sooner... Like along with fishing line and hooks, dry flies, cricket lures and dragonfly lures (which I ordered tonight from Bassproshops.com) apparently based on reviews they work extremely well.

within the next couple weeks I will be going camping for a few days to practice using some of my gear (which I've done before) but the main focus will be on how to continue getting food, make shelter and fire ect. Trying to plan on honing skills for when the supplies run low/out. I'll let you know how it goes.

EDIT: I also started using the patch to stop this stupid habit I started (Marlboro lights)
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 05, 2009, 05:16:36 am
Rob 25 If you run out of bait when fishing usw some toothpaste the fish will go wild for if for a little while. Gum and soft candy works too. I have changed this things around and the fish bit and bit.

Guard Duck I wrote how you can make and outdoor oven in one of the threads here. Think it was one of the food ones. Hope it helps you bake some of the thngs you like.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Bank Walker on July 05, 2009, 02:51:47 pm
picked 2 1/2 gallons of wild blackberries and then made 16 pints of jelly and one cobbler.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 05, 2009, 03:01:20 pm
Rob 25 If you run out of bait when fishing usw some toothpaste the fish will go wild for if for a little while. Gum and soft candy works too. I have changed this things around and the fish bit and bit.

Guard Duck I wrote how you can make and outdoor oven in one of the threads here. Think it was one of the food ones. Hope it helps you bake some of the thngs you like.

U got a link to that post?

Bluegill bait:
Wonder bread balls dipped in rotted chicken juices. Ewwww...!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 05, 2009, 04:00:34 pm

U got a link to that post?

Bluegill bait:
Wonder bread balls dipped in rotted chicken juices. Ewwww...!

It is in 101+things to bake. Guard Duck. You will find it there.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: MsSage on July 05, 2009, 05:03:27 pm
I've been watching youtube all night on various topics such as primitive fishing, hunting/trapping and Bug out gear.. Some very good ideas. Some obvious ones which I smacked myself for not having thought of sooner... Like along with fishing line and hooks, dry flies, cricket lures and dragonfly lures (which I ordered tonight from Bassproshops.com) apparently based on reviews they work extremely well.

within the next couple weeks I will be going camping for a few days to practice using some of my gear (which I've done before) but the main focus will be on how to continue getting food, make shelter and fire ect. Trying to plan on honing skills for when the supplies run low/out. I'll let you know how it goes.

EDIT: I also started using the patch to stop this stupid habit I started (Marlboro lights)
GOOD LUCK you can DO IT

I sent my Dad the "story" from survivalblog about talking to the sheeple.......I have been talking, maybe, I dont know.....
I just want the peace of mind knowing he is not going to be starving. He will never leave his "HOME" wish he would then I would know he was safe and fed LOL
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 05, 2009, 06:52:39 pm

U got a link to that post?

Bluegill bait:
Wonder bread balls dipped in rotted chicken juices. Ewwww...!

It is in 101+things to bake. Guard Duck. You will find it there.

Oh yeah, I remember seeing it now! WWIT?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: Mad Wet Hen on July 05, 2009, 07:12:05 pm
Guard Duck what does WWIT mean?
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: gaurdduck on July 05, 2009, 07:29:53 pm
What Was I Thinking?



Edit: You can't take those points away! I even answered in the form of a question!
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: McClarinJ on July 05, 2009, 10:09:19 pm
What I did today was stay up till 4:30 this morning reading William R. Forstchen's "One Second After" (Forge) that deals with the aftermath of an EMP attack from a very hi-altitude nuclear blast over the middle of the country.  Got some shut-eye till 8:30 then finished the book.

The novel is more than an entertaining read; it is a plea for our society and our government to safeguard our infrastructure from a possible Electro Magnetic Pulse attack, which would leave all unprotected transistorized and microchipped devices useless, including modern cars, planes, trains, ships, refrigerators, insulin pumps, pacemakers,TVs, radios, telephones, computers, shutdown systems at nuclear power plants, etc.  The entire electric power grid and practically every device connected to it would be fried, including water and sewage treatment and pumping facilities, elevators, subways, cargo cranes, and ATM's. 

Our just-in-time inventory and delivery system, our total dependence on infrastructure, even our vaunted lifesaving medical/pharmaceutical interventions that keep the diabetic, the heart diseased, the kidney diseased, and the mentally imbalanced functioning as productive members of our society have all set us up for a massive die-off should an EMP attack occur. We would be suddenly thrust 150-200 years back in technology but without the tools we relied on back then: horse-drawn wagons and carriages, horse-drawn plows, draft horses, mules, ice houses, wood or coal stoves in every home, hand-cranked devices, treadle sewing machines, outhouses.  Even if we did have all those survival tools, most wouldn't have the skills to use them.  And even if we had both tools and skills, our population is too great to be supported by the land without the annual use billions of tons fossil fuel products that could suddenly be neither created nor transported.

America would be years, decades from recovery, all the while vulnerable against rampant disease, criminal gangs, and conventional attack and invasion by countries that were not affected. America could cease to exist, conquered with little resistance by outside interests such as China, Canada, Mexico, and the EU.  The Russians might reclaim Alaska.

An EMP attack is just one of many potential events for which prepping is needed and many of the preparedness measures against it are the same as we would follow prepping for some other calamity.  One difference is that electronic devices would be stored away inside nesting Faraday cages to safeguard them from EMP effects, a step I have already taken with some of my gear.
Title: Re: What did you do today to prepare?
Post by: padre29 on July 05, 2009, 10:15:21 pm
What I did today was stay up till 4:30 this morning reading William R. Forstchen's "One Second After" (Forge) that deals with the aftermath of an EMP attack from a very hi-altitude nuclear blast over the middle of the country.  Got some shut-eye till 8:30 then finished the book.

The novel is more than an entertaining read; it is a plea for our society and our government to safeguard our infrastructure from a possible Electro Magnetic Pulse attack, which would leave all unprotected transistorized and microchipped devices useless, including modern cars, planes, trains, ships, refrigerators, insulin pumps, pacemakers,TVs, radios, telephones, computers, shutdown systems at nuclear power plants, etc.  The entire electric power grid and practically every device connected to it would be fried, including water and sewage treatment and pumping facilities, elevators, subways, cargo cranes, and ATM's. 

Our just-in-time inventory and delivery system, our total dependence on infrastructure, even our vaunted lifesaving medical/pharmaceutical interventions that keep the diabetic, the heart diseased, the kidney diseased, and the mentally imbalanced functioning as productive members of our society have all set us up for a massive die-off should an EMP attack occur. We would be suddenly thrust 150-200 years back in technology but without the tools we relied on back then: horse-drawn wagons and carriages, horse-drawn plows, draft houses, mules, ice houses, wood or coal stoves in every home, hand-cranked devices, treadle sewing machines, outhouses.  Even if we did have all those survival tools, most wouldn't have the skills to use them.  And even if we had both tools and skills, our population is too great to be supported by the land