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Title: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: freewoman on November 18, 2009, 04:48:59 pm
This quote is from an article on the website of the Anti-Defamation League (www.adl.org) called "Rage Grows in America".  Most of it is the usual stuff that comes from these groups (along the lines of "anyone who disagrees with us or Obama must be a racist anti-Semite").  But this paragraph I found fascinating:

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For many members and supporters of the Oath Keepers, some sort of confrontation with that “New World Order” is inevitable. One Oath Keepers adherent, “Radar,” posted to an Oath Keepers blog in April 2009 that now was the time for action: “First through the courts (if possible), then the ballot box (if this administration doesn’t preclude this option by fraudulent means) and finally from the streets! (as the LAST resort).” In June 2009, another supporter, “Oxi,” posted to an on-line forum that the Oath Keepers should consider forming a “military structure,” because, although not presently “at war,” the group “must prepare for one.” After Oath Keepers first formed, so many posts about resistance and guerrilla war were posted to the official Oath Keepers blog that Rhodes had to step in and rein them in, saying that “we want active duty to visit this site and if you transform it into a hard-core ‘how to wage 4th [generation] guerrilla war’ or ‘how to fragg’ site, many of them will be wary of participating.” However, Rhodes did not oppose such discussions; he merely asked that they be carried on somewhere else, so that they would not tar the Oath Keepers’ blog.

Of course, the ADL didn't say that Oxi was strongly opposed here. . . .but then, one wouldn't expect that.

The format of the article is a little tricky; you have to go to the menu on the right to see the whole text for each section.  Just clicking on the article links give a paragraph or two from each section.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Klapton Isgod on November 18, 2009, 04:59:35 pm
Did Oxi get banned, or did he just finally give up on finding fellow revolutionaries here?

Yes, of course the ADL article said nothing about the fact that he got repeated reamed out by this community for being an idiot.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Mr. Dare on November 18, 2009, 05:58:49 pm
   To the power damaged mind, everything that is not blind obedience is perceived as a threat or competition for power. They seized on Oxi because he is the most like them, and sought to wrest power from them, possibly even through violent means. They understand that. Everything the rest of us said is pretty much incomprehensible to them since it is neither obedience, nor a direct threat. The idea of someone not wanting to be ruled, but not seeking to rule others just doesn't fit into their world view at all. The Zero Aggression Principal as an idea as foreign to them as the idea that human beings do not require a government to force them not to eat one another. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: dogsledder54 on November 18, 2009, 06:11:44 pm
  the idea that human beings do not require a government to force them not to eat one another. :rolleyes:

Oh THAT'S  why we don't eat each other.
I thought it was because we taste bad.  :laugh:
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: CorbinKale on November 18, 2009, 06:24:18 pm
We pretty much figured that oxi was a plant from the start. Coincidence that they randomly picked him out of the many OK sites and forums? Not likely. He was a plant from our adversaries to supply 'evidence' for how they wanted to portray us. We saw them coming a mile away. We are inside their OODA loop and forcing them to react to us. They are slower than we expected.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: da gooch on November 18, 2009, 09:48:54 pm
The link to the Full Report (http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp) on the ADL site.

Like was mentioned before you will need to click on each link to get the whole report.

From the report about Oath Keepers ...
"Members refuse to obey hypothetical “orders” from the government, “orders” that speak more to their own paranoid and conspiratorial beliefs than to any realistic government action."

I guess Katrina didn't count or any of the other violent repudiations of our civil liberties.
But then again the Katrina people weren't all Jews so the ADL doesn't count them I guess.

I wonder do any of them remember how to spell hypocrite ?
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 18, 2009, 11:02:53 pm
On the words from the ADL:

To the ADL:
I find it both stunningly blind and retroactively forgetful of anyone who has an ounce of Jewish Blood not have learned at least the primary lesson of Masada and the holocaust:  never let anyone ~ not friend nor foe, president or king, dictator or statesman ~ ever, any under circumstances, force you to give up the means to defend yourself and your family.  If shattered potsherds on a high desert mesa do not make us remember, then let the smoke stacks of Germany make us remember. 

If we cannot protect ourselves, we will be lost.  I speak here as a woman.  No one has the right to ask or force me to be defenseless.  No one has the right to demand that of me, or to condemn me when I refuse those demands.

Do not give up your weapons, nor bow to any earthly ruler, until we women give up our children.

If anyone at the ADL does not understand what I have written above, about why we must all be Oathkeepers, and cherish the others who are, then please do get in touch with me directly, as soon as you read this, so that I may explain it to you, one human to another. 

I cannot imagine anyone who is either blind or forgetful enough to have forgotten those things which were written in innocent, spilled blood many and few years ago, to make us, to demand of us, to witness to us, what we must always remember.

How could anyone forget?

Now, let us work together for true peace, and for the end of wars, and of hatred, and of striking out with hate when what we are most probably feeling is fear, because we do not know each other as good people, but have lost our ability to think for ourselves with loving human hearts, because we have become caught in the illusions of the  hate and fear.

Oathkeepers promises what the German officers should have said before Hitler gained so much power.

Oathkepers promises what the men of Masada could not do for their women, against others, and finally, against themselves.

Please, ADL, read this and understand. 

Please, Oathkeepers, reach out in peace and patience to these people who are afraid.  Turn their fear to love instead of letting them turn their fear to hate.

(As that totally cool Jew said, turn the other cheek, and also, persuade them with kindness.  They are afraid.)

I celebrate this day because the new FIJA DVD received its final edits today.  It will be available in a few days, and there will be an announcement on our web site, as well as the sound of joyful celebration from the Montana Divide.

Peace to everyone,
ff 
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: freewoman on November 19, 2009, 05:34:14 am
Good words, feralfae. 

I do not hate the ADL.  I feel compassion for them.  Many well-meaning people support them, thinking that in so doing, they are helping to stand up against those who hate others simply because of their religious background (or race or sex or sexual orientation or whatever).  It is disturbing to see such a group sling hatred and misunderstanding back at others.  It is especially a concern that the very tactics that led to the Holocaust--the removal of the people's ability to defend themselves--is fully supported by these folks who are quick to cry, "Never again!"  If they truly believed in "Never again!", they would align themselves with our good friends at the JPFO.

ff is right--responding to these groups (the ADL, the SPLC, the DHS, CNN, whomever) with hate isn't going to help anything.  That doesn't mean we cower before them, just that we do not allow ourselves to respond to their attacks with negative emotions.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Lenny on November 19, 2009, 08:32:56 am
I do not hate the ADL.  I feel compassion for them.  Many well-meaning people support them, thinking that in so doing, they are helping to stand up against those who hate others simply because of their religious background (or race or sex or sexual orientation or whatever).  It is disturbing to see such a group sling hatred and misunderstanding back at others...

One problem is that when a good idea (like opposing hate) becomes institutionalized (in the ADL, the NAACP, or whatever), it adds survival to its priorities. The folks at the ADL would be out of a job if somehow antisemitism were eradicated from the earth. They can't imagine such an eventuality, and they really can't accept it either. If there were no antisemites left in the world, they'd have to invent some. In the same way the NAACP was once concerned with lynchings; now it's mostly worried whether a millionaire rapper in a TV commercial was portrayed in a questionable light. Someday they won't even have that to complain about, and they'll complain that portraying blacks without negative stereotypes of any kind is some sort of "cultural genocide" or a "denial of the uniqueness of black culture."
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 19, 2009, 10:24:58 am
Lenny, you have a very good mind.
Use it to address the acts of individuals as far as you can, and avoid the trap of institutionalized condemnations or criticism.

Many people in many groups have wrong thinking: but institutions do not think, worry, have opinions, or make decisions - only the people in those groups do so.  Try to stay focused on individual people, and not on all the easily-grouped individuals who may make mistakes that are then perceived as  institutional flaws.

And let us not institutionalize anything, but speak one person to another, from our own best sense of each of us, our liberty, our human rights, and our right to make individual decisions.

Always enjoy your posts.

ff

Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: MamaLiberty on November 19, 2009, 05:01:58 pm
Very true for the most part, ff - but there ARE individuals (no longer truly human) who are completely evil, sold to evil, steeped in evil. Those do not merely fear, but live with implacable thirst for our blood and souls.

I can pray for their conversion, but I have no mercy for them - as they have none for us, and vow to give no quarter in the battle to come.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 19, 2009, 05:24:24 pm
Thank you ML.  You are correct that there are truly evil ones out there. 
When I see one of the dark lords or their minions coming in my direction, and if they are in any way armed, I will respond accordingly.  If they attempt fraud, rather than force, I hope my mind is keen enough to determine their falsehoods.

But many people who read and vaguely ponder opinions of others are not evil: just lazy thinkers.  They borrow opinions from others rather than think through issues and events.  That is how we get into messes with those who should be our allies, but instead, find them huddled with the masses of other unthinking ones.  I hope we can awaken more of them.  I am happy so many are now awakened that the evil ones find themselves questioned and ignored more each day.

I think we will all be able to recognize the evil ones when they arrive.  Our individual antennae are finely tuned.  Predatory psychos have a certain "feel" to them, I have found. 

I know that most of us here will be standing against any attempt to repeat the atrocities of earlier times in human history, and we are working as much as we can now to cancel any repeat of that history.  I also think we are all ready for the worst.

Let us not throw dark blankets over whole flocks of people just because they might look alike, or might have on the same hat: while discernment during troubled times is often difficult, I think we must exercise discernment as much as possible.  That is all I meant.

I know there is evil afoot: I hope we can divert it into traps of its own design.  Let evil starve for lack of the blood of its victims.

Thank you for your post.  I love your spirit!
ff



Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: MamaLiberty on November 19, 2009, 05:35:27 pm
Let us not throw dark blankets over whole flocks of people just because they might look alike, or might have on the same hat: while discernment during troubled times is often difficult, I think we must exercise discernment as much as possible.  That is all I meant.

Sadly, like horses in a burning barn, many of them will fight tooth and nail to STAY in the burning barn because that's where they think they are safe. We can and should do everything possible to bring them out, but I don't think it will be possible to save many.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 19, 2009, 05:39:57 pm
We will let them stay in the burning barn, then, and stand back so that their flailing and anger, their fear and confusion, does not reach us, as we continue our peaceful, quiet, productive, non-aggressive lives.

You are correct, ML, thank you.
ff
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Klapton Isgod on November 19, 2009, 10:21:57 pm
We will let them stay in the burning barn, then, and stand back so that their flailing and anger, their fear and confusion, does not reach us, as we continue our peaceful, quiet, productive, non-aggressive lives.

You are correct, ML, thank you.
ff

I'm going to roast marshmallows.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: MamaLiberty on November 20, 2009, 07:26:08 am
I guess what I'm trying to say is that we can't let our eyes be clouded with any stereotypes or wishful thinking. The human race has always consisted of a great variety of people, with endlessly varied motives, strengths and intelligence. There are and have always been the simple, easily led, misguided, fanatic, and deluded, along with all the different kinds of evil and sheer stupidity. Those who just want to be left alone to live and let live have become a minority. Was it ever truly otherwise?

Those who feel they must reach out to others with truth and justice must do so with the understanding that their pearls will be trampled under swine more often than not, and that they may pay a great personal price for their compassion. That shouldn't stop them, necessarily, but make them wise and careful.

We still don't know who will survive in this coming Armageddon.  We can only prepare the best we can. But let us fight for liberty and justice with all of the strength and intelligence we can muster.

No mercy for evil (those who would knowingly enslave and murder us), and no quarter given. Our survival depends on it.

People believe lies because they fear most what might happen if they were not true - even when those possibilities are without foundation or reason. Therefore, telling them the truth is the most frightening and threatening thing you can do.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 20, 2009, 09:17:20 am
Great post, ML.
Yes, human nature certainly spans the spectrum.
And the times I have been beaten, or threatened with physical violence, were always for simply speaking the truth.  Just speaking the truth.
It is significant how much some humans fear the truth.

Yet, I think that is why I am here, so I guess I'll just keep on.

(threadjack)
I read your post about food and what young people buy: I remember when my children were small, and we could make it a week on one chicken, a bag of beans, a sack of masa harina, lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, milk, and oranges and apples, and oatmeal.  Our weekly grocery bill was usually about $10.  And we ate well and healthy, supplemented by our tiny yard garden, and plums from our tree, which was also our source for plum jam.  We are all marvelously healthy, and that is probably due in part to the fact that we could not afford convenience foods.

I will try to stop in at the recipe site when I can and add some simple, inexpensive recipes.
(end threadjack)

I think all we can do is keep going, stay prepared, and spread the word on human liberty whenever we can.

ff
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Elias Alias on November 25, 2009, 11:31:53 pm
Uhm, feralfae, I'm doing an article on this for the papers. I hope you will allow me to print a couple of your excellent statements from your above post. That was an excellent post, and I'd like to share some of its content with our readers by inserting them appropriately into the article I'm going to publish.

Salute!
Elias
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: SoundTheBell on November 29, 2009, 11:04:22 pm
Fred of Appleseed sent a note out to the instructors today mentioning this ADL article, and how they bashed the Oath Keepers. I read the article... man oh man, what trash.
Although I hate to give even more attention to the article and have the ADL thinking they'd hit a "big one" with that and should publish more like it, I think it would be a good idea to send that to friends and family to open their eyes even further about how the people who value liberty and freedom are viewed and targeted more and more.
You guys keep on keepin' on, don't let 'em get you down.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: iloilo on November 29, 2009, 11:49:28 pm
Uhm, feralfae, I'm doing an article on this for the papers. I hope you will allow me to print a couple of your excellent statements from your above post. That was an excellent post, and I'd like to share some of its content with our readers by inserting them appropriately into the article I'm going to publish.

Salute!
Elias

Thank you Elias.
Yes, I would welcome having my statements spread around, but ask only that you use an entire post together, and that you link my name back to iloilojones.com (http://iloilojones.com) for anyone who is interested in reaching me.   

I did not write any of these words on this thread as a part of FIJA, or for fija.org (http://fija.org) and do not want to overlap or confuse my own thoughts as a human with my work with FIJA: at FIJA, we are having our own backlash, including a recent suspect being described as linked to "jury nullification"  as though it were some STD he had acquired!  Oh, that's right - thoughts of self-responsibility, justice, honesty, self-governance, and freedom are worse than being a "victim" of some STD.   (Oh Lord!  This country has done such horrible brainwashing to its children!)

Anyway, with all those conditions on using what I write here,  and I'd appreciate it if you could do these things for me, the answer is yes, and thank you for the compliment.

Be Well,
ff

Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: joeofthemountain on November 30, 2009, 02:46:09 pm
Glad to see this Spirit alive at Oath Keepers.  I am merely a friend and sometime supporter of your efforts, but it warms my heart.  Feralfae hits a nail on the head, IMHO.  I think certain groups, especially those that have institutionalized themselves as going concerns, have defined themselves at a personal level by their "mission statement".  It becomes them and their own narrow-mindedness, or perhaps simply small-mindedness, compels them to see boogymen under every stone, behind each shadow.

I know this is the usual offense claimed by such people against well, us.  But the distinction is that conservatives, traditionalists, etc rarely, if ever, proactively seek trouble.  No - we leave that to the likes of ADL, ACLU, $PLC etal whose livelihoods depend on continuing and ever more dangerous enemies.

It is a dangerous model they follow, if for no other reason than because their paranoia has a self-fulfilling quality that in the end ensures their own demise as demonstrated again and again by history.

Pity.  I rather liked the America invened so long ago by my Pilgrim forefathers.  It worked for many hundreds of years, rather more than less.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: coloradohermit on April 19, 2010, 06:24:01 pm
And they're still watching...........I took a few snips from the "report" to show some of the forums/blogs/websites on their radar.

http://www.adl.org/extremism/Anti-Government-Extremism-Report.pdf

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Violent Voices:
Anti-Government Extremism Takes on New Intensity

An ADL Center on Extremism Special Report
April 2010

snips...........
post by “mmpaints” on the American Preppers Network Forum, March 22, 2010
wrote “TXplt” on the Gun and Game Forums on March 22
Post by “HighGround” to the AR-15 Forums, March 19, 2010
Post by “Emily” to the Tree of Liberty Forums, March 24, 2010
Post by “Big Philly” to the Survivalist Boards, March 26, 2010
Post by “Sane” to the Prison Planet Forums, March 22, 2010
Comment by “Problem” on the Infowars Web site, March 26, 2010
“JimmyMac65,” posting on the New Hampshire Militia forums
Posted by “Sayitwithamini-14” to the A Well Regulated Militia Forums, March 22, 2010
wrote “Bobn” on the Tree of Liberty Forums on March 24
“Redcap,” writing on the AR-15 Adviser Forums on March 22,
Comment by “Woodburner2” in response to Foxnews.com article, March 25, 2010
On the Glock Talk Forums on March 25
Post by “SixpkAmerican” to the First Tennessee Rifles Forum, March 24, 2010
Post by “boondock-saint” on the Above Top Secret Forums, March 24, 2010


Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: socalserf on April 19, 2010, 09:09:54 pm
This is from the early '90S but the ADL is famous for watching.
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It's Now the ADL Spy Case

By Rachelle Marshall
The investigation of a former San Francisco policeman suspected of keeping illegal files on members of Arab-American, anti-apartheid and other political groups turned into the "ADL Spy Case" in early April, when revelations about the B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation League's nationwide intelligence operation became front page news in the Bay Area. Police officials who searched the San Francisco and Los Angeles offices of the organization on April 8 found evidence that ADL has employed undercover operators in at least seven major cities to gather information on thousands of individuals and groups ranging across the political spectrum, from Greenpeace, the Arab-American Democratic Club, the NAACP, the Mandela Welcoming Committee and the United Farm Workers to white supremacy and anti-Semitic groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and Youth for Hitler.

Although its spokesmen insist that ADL's only purpose is to "counteract bigotry and prejudice, " ADL's operatives also kept files on at least eight Jewish peace groups, Mills College, the Northern California Ecumenical Council and even the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Arab Americans were a special target of the undercover operation. San Francisco Police Inspector Ronald Roth said in an affidavit released after the search that ADL had driver's license and motor vehicle registration information on some 15 percent of the members of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, as well as records on thousands of other Arab Americans.
http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0693/9306017.htm

I'd be very surprised indeed if they gave up their criminal behavior, since their cause is so righteous and all.
They are a good example of the meme that the ends justifies the means.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: motomom on April 20, 2010, 01:01:00 am
And they're still watching...........I took a few snips from the "report" to show some of the forums/blogs/websites on their radar.

http://www.adl.org/extremism/Anti-Government-Extremism-Report.pdf

Quote
Violent Voices:
Anti-Government Extremism Takes on New Intensity

An ADL Center on Extremism Special Report
April 2010

snips...........
post by “mmpaints” on the American Preppers Network Forum, March 22, 2010
wrote “TXplt” on the Gun and Game Forums on March 22
Post by “HighGround” to the AR-15 Forums, March 19, 2010
Post by “Emily” to the Tree of Liberty Forums, March 24, 2010
Post by “Big Philly” to the Survivalist Boards, March 26, 2010
Post by “Sane” to the Prison Planet Forums, March 22, 2010
Comment by “Problem” on the Infowars Web site, March 26, 2010
“JimmyMac65,” posting on the New Hampshire Militia forums
Posted by “Sayitwithamini-14” to the A Well Regulated Militia Forums, March 22, 2010
wrote “Bobn” on the Tree of Liberty Forums on March 24
“Redcap,” writing on the AR-15 Adviser Forums on March 22,
Comment by “Woodburner2” in response to Foxnews.com article, March 25, 2010
On the Glock Talk Forums on March 25
Post by “SixpkAmerican” to the First Tennessee Rifles Forum, March 24, 2010
Post by “boondock-saint” on the Above Top Secret Forums, March 24, 2010




Interesting!  I gotta check out some of these other forums!
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: motomom on April 20, 2010, 01:41:28 am
From the article at http://www.adl.org/extremism/Anti-Government-Extremism-Report.pdf

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Frequently used is language often attributed to Ed Howdershelt, an obscure individual who self-publishes science fiction novels on the Internet: “There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use them in that order.”


I guess he ain't so "obscure" now, is he? 
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: motomom on April 20, 2010, 02:10:08 am
I find this article so enlightening, thanks so much to coloradohermit for posting it.  I learn new things from this site every day.  And to think, I was going to try to hit the sack early this evening.  Oops.

After reading the entire paper, I find that I am siding more and more with the patriots.  As I read through the comments, I understand their anger.  However, I am still clearly coming over to the side that waits for the goobermint to make the first move.  Whether they have the guts to make those mistakes or not remains to be seen.

I also find it rather amusing that the ADL "fights antisemitism", and yet the present administration has done more to damage our relationship with Israel than any other in the past.  And how do they jive with JPFO, I wonder?

And, if they fight for civil rights, as they say, how about my civil right to earn a living and keep what I earn?  Why is that not a right to them?  How will they react when the power of the government holds me at the point of a gun because I refuse health care or the payment that goes with it?  Will I have any remaining civil rights at that point?
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: coloradohermit on April 20, 2010, 07:31:45 am
Interesting!  I gotta check out some of these other forums!

I'm pretty regular at The Tree of Liberty and, as you've probably guessed, the majority of quotes attributed to TTOL members were taken largely out of context. The real flow of discussions wouldn't make news at all. Selective propoganda is the meme of the day.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Basil Fishbone on April 20, 2010, 02:48:58 pm

http://newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin583.htm

SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER PUBLISHES PATRIOT HIT LIST

By Chuck Baldwin
April 21, 2010
NewsWithViews.com

In a report on its web site dated April 2010, entitled "Meet The Patriots," the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) profiled "36 individuals at the heart of the resurgent [patriot] movement." (In reading the list, I counted only 35 "patriots" and 5 "enablers" for a total of 40. I'm not really sure how the SPLC came up with "36." Perhaps their ability to count is commensurate with their ability to appreciate patriotism and liberty.) The SPLC (founded by Morris Dees) sees itself as America's guardian against "right wing militias" and loves to label conservatives and libertarians that it doesn't like as "extremists." The SPLC is one of the most ultra-liberal organizations in the country and should be dismissed as a group of paranoid leftists, not worthy of thought or mention.

The sad truth is, however, our federal government has chosen to exalt the SPLC to the position of being its "go to" source for information regarding "potential domestic terrorists" and similar characterizations. As a result, the information and reports disseminated by SPLC wind up in police reports and bulletins all over the United States. As an example, the SPLC had its fingerprints all over the infamous MIAC report. One could even question whether the SPLC is merely a front organization for Big Brother. ...


...This database of Americans who are perceived to be potential "enemies of the state" goes by the code name "Main Core." And according to the report, "One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.
...<snip>...
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: MamaLiberty on April 20, 2010, 04:11:35 pm
I wonder if there is a searchable data base of those 8 million names. I'd like to be sure that my 40+ years of activism has not gone unnoticed!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Basil Fishbone on April 20, 2010, 04:28:21 pm
My feelings would be hurt if I were not on the list.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Klapton Isgod on April 20, 2010, 06:32:14 pm
I wonder how ADL would feel if some right-wingers had a database of millions of THEIR pals?  I wonder if they wouldn't percieve that as possibly THREATENING in any way?

Of course, THEY can keep lists of people they don't like.  Becuase we all know that they have no evil intent, and would only ever hunt down their enemies and HUG them.
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: flatbadge on July 07, 2010, 08:37:01 am
If u ever are "lucky" enough to attend training by the ADL, you will learn how racist they are. I couldn't believe it. :ph34r:
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: Bear on July 07, 2010, 12:30:41 pm
For the ADL to feel threatened by a group of people who value the
constitution above the government, have made the tacit assumption
that the government is their protector, not themselves.

Looking back at just recent history, the fallacy of that thinking leaves
me speechless.

Bear
Title: Re: The ADL is watching. . . .
Post by: pachristianpatriot on September 23, 2010, 03:08:10 am
I wonder how ADL would feel if some right-wingers had a database of millions of THEIR pals?  I wonder if they wouldn't percieve that as possibly THREATENING in any way?

Of course, THEY can keep lists of people they don't like.  Becuase we all know that they have no evil intent, and would only ever hunt down their enemies and HUG them.


It sounds like theythemselves have a conspiravy theory.....crazy.