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Title: Perceptions
Post by: Phil Carson on August 03, 2005, 02:13:09 pm
Disclaimer: The following post does NOT reflect the policies, opinions expressed, or implied  of TCF , The Administrators nor Claire Wolfe. The poster is expressing  personal experience(s) , opinion(s) , or thought provoking content.

The Reality is - people are profiled.

People percieve people, places and things. It is a fact of life. There are attached to certain chartacterics of everyday exposures a - gut response.

The folks dressed up in a Uniform , give the Perceptions of being PolicePersons, Doctors, Nurses, Fireman, Utility workers....you name it.

Folks in attendance in certain places , give Perceptions of belonging / needing to be there. The receptionist in the front office, the teller in a bank, the security guard in the bank, the person in white apron and hat in the kitchen of a restaurant, kids at a bus stop during the school months, the person in slippers taking the trash out next door...you name it.

How one carries themselves also give Perceptions. Three piece suit and tie/ ladies smart busines suit.  The eldery with a walker being feeble, The person heading across the parking lot with head up, looking around, keys in hand, is aware, and focused. The vehicle with various stickers denotes character of the driver.

Folks' vehicles, interior and exterior .Homes, the yards and interior decorating. The person with shaved head and various colors of ink and writings. The lady wearing a head scarf in summer, That Insulin Pump on that persons belt. The person putting a golf bag in a vehicle trunk. More Perceptions.

Think outside the box - do not be in the box.

Whether it is to protect Freedoms, fight Tyranny, be safe in one's travels, or in one's abode.

Phil

 



 
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Phil Carson on August 03, 2005, 03:22:50 pm
Disclaimer: The following post does NOT reflect the policies, opinions expressed, or implied of TCF , The Administrators nor Claire Wolfe. The poster is expressing personal experience(s) , opinion(s) , or thought provoking content.

To kill a gopher - think like a gopher-- Alex from Caddyshack

I am a 50 y/o male, older returning student. I wear jeans, oxford shirts, tennis shoes often. I drive a truck with a tool box.

Now does that generic baseball bat bag have a bat or a 870 pump shotgun? Is that LLBean backpack the one with books - or is that the one that has the handguns ready to go out to shoot?

Now am I using my cane because I need to - or does that .gov bldg have posted NO CCW?

Now I know darn well that wall mounted ironing board, does have more than a ironing board inside that access. I also know why a buddy of mine has the particular circuit breaker panel, and mutual buddy of ours the panels he has for some IT equipment he does they way he/ they do.

Knowing that BGs use metal detectors to find valuables hidden - is that HVAC duct really a duct? Is that how/ what needed to be done to convert that older bldg to more modern HVAC?  Maybe it is the "other" duct that has the firearms/ ammo in it. Hang on let me get a metal detector...danged if I know - all I get is a buzz the duct is made of metal. What guns?

  BGs are NOT the only ones wearing special clothes to represent an affliation that know the freezer is the first place to look for stuff, or the most common passwords/ combinations  used on alarm systems, computers, ATM machines and whatnot.

Lady Doctor friend had to buy me breakfast. See the State says no CCW in hospitals. Lady Doc often works the Graveyard hours, and even tho' not far to where she can most often park  - she still has to get from point A to point B. She still has the right to defend herself in traveling to and from the hosptial,and any stops she may need to make on her own time. Like groceries at 4am at the 24 hr grocery store.  Not un-common to be called in - for emergencies. The surveillance cameras do not always have film - and all they really do is "observe and document" when they do have film. She made HER decision , and when asked to "find it out" - I grabbed the Fort Knox book in her office. [pout] Everyone knows what these look like - especially BGs, Security folks, and LEOs. Great Idea - way too much publicity - hence the reason I never recommend.

"Oh goody - you brought me a gift...say this is NOT what it is Perceived to be..." Well granted she is cute when she pouts - whole bunch more cute when gets that impish grin in her office and - err- puts the gift to use.

I have a old Woolrich blue rain jacket - waist length.. No insulation - just to repel rain. Had it for 20 + years. Back before alphabet agencies really started to have ones with yellow letters. Mine was a gift. Well I have been Perceived to be some kind of agency type, even in jeans and tennis shoes. A couple of times I almost got into serious trouble wearing the thing and some youths - well they didnt' take kindly to me or the jacket. I rarely ever wear the thing anymore. I prefer to be really really low profile, o hide in plain site. I do NOT do wannabe anything.

I have been Perceived to be "some guy that must have retired early" , someone that works in various stores  " can you run to the back and see if you have any Fire Ant Killer./ The Tomato soup on special, .."  to being an instructor at College  even by other instructors,be they older or <sigh> younger than myself. Granted I now sometimes do assist in some instructions to classes, and  instructing to PhDs, Professors, Instructors and such ...these last types do NOT always make good students btw .

 I do not want to be Perceivedto be anything. The Reality is - I am profiled.

 It is therefore my responsiblilty to be vigilant , to give off the Perceptions that are best for my Security  and well being. I have to be secure in my activites of daily living and interactions. I hide in plain site, I keep low profile, I do not advertise anything - instead advertise the needed Perceptions .

There are NO firearm related material left out and about. NO toting of logo'd firearm containers ,or stickers of affliation to any firearm mfg, organization or cause.

Think outside the box - do not be in the box.

Whether it is to protect Freedoms, fight Tyranny, be safe in one's travels, or in one's abode.

Perceptions ,

Phil
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Plinker-MS on August 04, 2005, 02:22:23 am
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Disclaimer: The following post does NOT reflect the policies, opinions expressed, or implied  of TCF , The Administrators nor Claire Wolfe. The poster is expressing  personal experience(s) , opinion(s) , or thought provoking content.
 

So... do people ever perceive that you speak for TCF, the Administrators, Claire, or anyone-outside-your-own-skin?

Just curious about the disclaimer.
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Pagan on August 04, 2005, 03:30:49 am
So... with so many wrong perceptions out there, how can we possibly override them all?

"It is therefore my responsiblilty to be vigilant , to give off the Perceptions that are best for my Security and well being. I have to be secure in my activites of daily living and interactions. I hide in plain site, I keep low profile, I do not advertise anything - instead advertise the needed Perceptions."

Even a person attempting to "hide" can be perceived as a Milquetoast, a nerd, a non-entity, a patsy, a wimp -- in short a "victim" of anyone who desires to prey on someone else. And that might really set him up for disaster.

What are you suggesting we do?
Title: Perceptions
Post by: securitysix on August 04, 2005, 12:21:37 pm
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Disclaimer: The following post does NOT reflect the policies, opinions expressed, or implied  of TCF , The Administrators nor Claire Wolfe. The poster is expressing  personal experience(s) , opinion(s) , or thought provoking content.
 

So... do people ever perceive that you speak for TCF, the Administrators, Claire, or anyone-outside-your-own-skin?

Just curious about the disclaimer.
Only when he posts a disclaimer stating that he doesn't speak for anyone other than himself.  :)
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Swein Asleifson on August 05, 2005, 08:00:39 pm
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Even a person attempting to "hide" can be perceived as a Milquetoast, a nerd, a non-entity, a patsy, a wimp -- in short a "victim" of anyone who desires to prey on someone else. And that might really set him up for disaster.

What are you suggesting we do?
Unfortunately, it is all to common for those of us "I leave you alone, you leave me alone" folks to be perceived precisely as you said - wimpy.  What to do?  Short of taking over Fedgov by the same process the neocons have used   :o , I've gotten some positive mileage out of forcing myself to get to know my neighbors.  We might not be friends, but at least I'm not viewed as being "that weird, quiet, Urban Injun down the street".  Which is funny acause I definitely look more white than Indian.  Must be my beard.

Of course, outside my neighborhood, I'm often viewed as the potential threat, mostly due to my attire (blue jeans and flannel shirts) and carriage (confident stride).  Or maybe people are scared of my insanely good looks.   :lol:  
Title: Perceptions
Post by: rayray on August 06, 2005, 06:42:52 pm
Hm.  I'm trying to get it.  Yes, a pool and a pond!
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Desertrat on August 09, 2005, 03:54:58 pm
I was raised amid a bunch of psychologists, my mother's co-workers.  So, I picked up bits and pieces, including a lot of the jargon.  That includes "otherness", or how we do indeed profile and assess other people, particularly if they are notably different in ethnicity or style of dress.  Call it the eearly warning system portion of the "fight or flight" reflex.

So, as I thought about keeping a low-ish profile while out and about, I simply dressed to blend in with those with whom I spent the most time.  Further, since cops generally don't hassle folks who look like Sammy Straight Arrow, I generally provided the appearance of a middle-class WASP.  Since I basically "are one", life was easy.

Implicit in what Phil says is to keep your mouth shut about what you do to maximize your safety and security.  And, Condition Yellow does not give one ulcers.  All ya gotta do is keep the rest of the world clueless about your preparations.

And I've survived a bunch of goofups to become a certified Old Fart.  All that really means is that I'm a bit more cautious about where I go and when I go there, and work a bit more on alertness.  Otherwise, no change...

:), 'Rat
 
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Ian on August 09, 2005, 05:07:24 pm
One thing I've definitely found - when I'm wearing a kilt and tuxedo vest/jacket, I can go anywhere in a city and nobody ever says a word. "Secure areas," employee-only doors, restaurant kitchens, backstage areas, you name it. Everyone just assumes that I'm doing something Official. I would assume that the same effect works on people dressed appropriately for their surroundings and who move with purpose and self-confidence.

I've also found that when I'm walking about wearing cargo pants, hiking boots, a plain tshirt, and an open pistol in a black holster, people wave at me a lot more than normal. I think they must be assuming that I'm a cop of some sort. It's an interesting phenomenon (and much better than how I rather expected to be treated while open carrying).

Pagan - I think the best way to blend in safely it to adopt the style of dress most common to the average, normal person around you (y'know, business suit in downtown Chicago, jeans & flannel in ranch/farm country) and also practice situation awareness. If you are alert, aware of your surroundings, and confident, most Bad Guys will notice (or so they told me at gun school), and choose other victims, while most regular folks won't give you a second glance.
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Joel on August 09, 2005, 05:44:39 pm
I've had similar experiences with work uniforms.  When I wrenched for a living, I often went around in tomorrow's clean uniform.  Nobody ever bothered to read the patches, it seems.  If a friend was in the hospital, or I was visiting a government building or anything like that, I just breezed through without ever hearing "you're not supposed to be here.

To this day I collect certain kinds of shirts. :ph34r:  
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Pagan on August 10, 2005, 07:22:52 am
Ian:
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Pagan - I think the best way to blend in safely it to adopt the style of dress most common to the average, normal person around you (y'know, business suit in downtown Chicago, jeans & flannel in ranch/farm country) and also practice situation awareness. If you are alert, aware of your surroundings, and confident, most Bad Guys will notice (or so they told me at gun school), and choose other victims, while most regular folks won't give you a second glance.

This makes the most sense -- and it could be what Phil was trying to say. But he said so much that it was rather difficult for me to sort out, so I wanted an explanation.

We CAN'T HIDE -- unless we're invisible. Whether acting/dressing differently or like everyone else, sooner or later we could become a target for someone, somewhere, for some nonsensical reason. (I knew a cop with a reputation for stopping people who consistently drove 'legally', because he thought they were trying to stay under the radar -- which made them suspicious to him.)
So it's best just to get on with your life. If you're eccentric, that may even be your disguise because people will just ignore you after a period of time.

 
Title: Perceptions
Post by: securitysix on August 10, 2005, 12:47:28 pm
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I knew a cop with a reputation for stopping people who consistently drove 'legally', because he thought they were trying to stay under the radar -- which made them suspicious to him.
I hope I don't run into that guy.  I was driving home from my wage-slavehood the other day and a cop pulled in behind me.  I drove exactly 40 miles per hour (the speed limit) for three miles, which, lemme tell ya, is not an easy task without cruise control.  He kept looking down at his computer and his radar readout and I just know that son of a bitch was trying to catch me speeding.  But I wouldn't let him do it, so HA!
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Pagan on August 10, 2005, 04:29:40 pm
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I hope I don't run into that guy.

No worries :-) ... that was 30 years ago.
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Scarmiglione' on August 10, 2005, 05:01:45 pm
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I knew a cop with a reputation for stopping people who consistently drove 'legally', because he thought they were trying to stay under the radar -- which made them suspicious to him.
I hope I don't run into that guy.  I was driving home from my wage-slavehood the other day and a cop pulled in behind me.  I drove exactly 40 miles per hour (the speed limit) for three miles, which, lemme tell ya, is not an easy task without cruise control.  He kept looking down at his computer and his radar readout and I just know that son of a bitch was trying to catch me speeding.  But I wouldn't let him do it, so HA!
See, I'm going to get killed on day because of something like this.

When a cop pulls behind me and starts checking his speed, I do things like speed up to 3 mph over for 2 seconds, then drop back to the speed limit, then edge back up one....    oh.... two....... maybe three mph, then drop back down, then I go just an edge below the speed limit, for just long enough that he has to tap his brakes.

Now, I try to use environmental excuses, such as bumps in the road or inclines and curves to "justify" my speed variation.

I also do things like suddenly need to clean my winshield wiper with all of the fluid in the resevoir.  You know how those old cars are, they spray the stuff all over the car behind them as much as on the winshield.
Title: Perceptions
Post by: DrillSgtK on August 10, 2005, 09:03:17 pm
I'm thinking the idea behind this was to make us aware of how people perceive us. I took a look and started doing that. I'm a tallish guy with short hair near a military base. Sadly I also have a slight spare tire i've been fighting since I was 25. By wearing a tight t-shirt and not sucking in my gut I noted that the people I talked to about a new bed made the assumption that 1) I was retired military or 2) a vet back from Iraq who had been injured. When i came back a week later I wore a polo shirt and kakis and the sales people assumed that I was an instructor at the base. (the polo hid the gut.)

I can see how awareness of this and other perceptions can be useful. The best way to be not noticed is to be put into a profile. Just read a police alert for someone (with out a photo) from a mugging. "White Male, about Five-ten to six feet, 18 to 22 with a football sweatshirt, brown or black hair."  Place this in the "college town" area and you have little to no chance of finding the guy.

Show up at the Farmers Market in the hills with that outfit and you won't blend in as much. I remember feeling very out of place in a suit/tie after church one day when I stopped to see a friend at the mall. I stood out. I got down town on Monday in the same suit/tie and was only notable by being tall.

If you need to disappear, blend in. It buys you more time to blend. It distracts attention from you or your stuff. Noting wrong with becoming good friends with all your neighbors, as long as you don't mind that some day they may be on tv saying "he was such a nice person, I can't believe that he would have done that."  I don't draw attention to myself, from either the cops or the Bad Guys (or both some times). Yes I have some expensive toys, No i don't announce it to the world that I have them. I could have just a table and lap top in my apartment, or not. You can't tell from the outside

Hide in plane sight. Let the loudmouth, who has not the self-preservation instinct G-D gave a carrot, draw the attention. Then work quietly to change things. As we say in the EMS world, Don't become a victim trying to save a victim.

I'll have to remember that a cane can be a good club the next time I need to go into a "CCW ban zone".

Drill Sgt K.
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Phil Carson on August 10, 2005, 11:49:56 pm
Hello  :)

Well I see this thread I started has managed to work out some kinks that yours truly left in a mess in posting. No excuses, I know better to TTPO and to post when I am fresh and not distracted. I did not do this.

First let say I apologize for any misunderstandings. I did PM debra with apologies back earlier - whenever that was- the reason for the disclaimer, and what this thread was "supposed" to be about. I also advised if needed to delete the disclaimer, or entire thread.  I see the disclaimer stayed as well as the thread. Removing disclaimer would have ruined the continuity of  the thread.

When I posted originally I was sleep depraved from dealing with Medical Emergencies. Having been a forum member on other sites for awhile I understand the Rules of Conduct and  implications of posts as they relate to Admins . I also was in the midst of being a Moderator beta testing a Forum for a Intra-Net [ Company if you will] and my brain kicked into CYA.

Never said I was smart now did I ?  :unsure:

I will share one interesting tidbit of the medical stuff and how it does relate to Perceptions . Once upon a time I worked in the main  OR of a major hosptial - we had 19 suites . So I am familar with Sterile Area Only. So I run to small town Hosptial and I happen to know  / run into  some folks or folks of mutual folks.  I was allowed to get into Scrubs and observe the Surgery. I happen to have worked with the Surgeon and CRNA before. This was a good thing because the Person I was there for really needed the support.

So the patient is in recovery and I am about to starve to death. I go to the Cafe, in scrubs, white coat with the Dr, CRNA, STs and such. I have no money,, all my money, wallet and the like is in a Locker in the Drs.  Changing area.  I am standing there with my tray - brain faded from no sleep, and "Well Doc, gimme your ID and I'll scan it or just holler out your Physicians acct number".

Err...I have neither.

"Hey Rita, put the Good Docs meal on my tab - my turn to buy anyway".  - Surgeon has arrived with his tray...

Amazing the difference in the LONG white coat makes over the Short white coat I used to wear. The dining room is much nicer, has  Internet connections,  neat phones , and they have someone come by and refresh your coffee and even get condiments for you - oh and they bust your table. I never got when I was an employee back in my day.

I was the only "Doctor" without a pager, or cell phone. I still got a lot of respect, doors opened, and Security made no fuss about where I parked. The Surgeon and CRNA had fun with this of course, the Charge nurse too. Grant you some famlies wondered why that patient had the Doc spend the night in the room with Patient.,

Note to self, get another set of blue scrubs and LONG white coat. I dunno maybe all I need is the coat - I have green scrubs from my old duties.

I also was the only Doc with a IWB leather cell phone holder made by High Noon...I was asked about that in the Changing Area. I thought the Surgeon friend was gonna die laughing when I told the other Doc whom asked what it was. Obviously not a shooter, much less a CCW-er - huh?

Perceived to be a Surgeon for bit...who'd a thunk it?
Title: Perceptions
Post by: securitysix on August 11, 2005, 01:14:03 pm
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Never said I was smart now did I ?
No, but if you keep posting stuff like this, people will perceive you to be, then they'll expect smart stuff from you.

That's why I try to get people to think I'm stupid, or if they form that opinion without my help, I don't try too hard to correct it.  Folk think you're stupid, they tend to leave you be.   :D  
Title: Perceptions
Post by: ultralongrunner on August 13, 2005, 03:43:33 pm
Speaking of perceptions, I did some work as a bouncer once in a very tough bar.  I stand six-two and weighed at the time about 160.  We had some big boys with no necks, but when they got their butts kicked, I'd go in and solve the problem. Learned that pain compliance techniques didn't work, so I would bounce them on concrete and knock the wind (and fight) out of them.

Dropped one guy once, he got up and started waving a knife in my face.  I don't remember what I did, but he ended up with a broken wrist, elbow and dislocated shoulder and I ended up with the knife.  The responding JBT asked why I hurt him so badly.  I replied that I must have been in a good mood when I acted because I usually killed people who came at me with a knife.  He didn't seem to understand, and sadly, I lost my job (it was an easy way to meet girls).

At the local university, I'm an English major, finishing up my BA.  Still about the same build. But in my bookbag, along with my texts is a Glock 30 and an extra magazine.  In the same state where I live, some nutcase came into a classroom and started blasting away with a gun.  Ain't gonna happen when I'm in school...

ultralongrunner
Title: Perceptions
Post by: freewoman on August 13, 2005, 07:09:16 pm
I've been thinking about this thread in light of the poor Brazilian guy in London.  He's wearing a heavy coat in warm weather, he doesn't stop when they say stop, he's dead.  Turns out he was afraid of being mugged.  (Haven't heard an explanation on the heavy coat yet.)  The man is dead because of perceptions, on his part and the bobbies', whether they were correct or not.

Perceptions are truly important, and could mean life or death.  I've concluded that it's about awareness--being aware of your surroundings, aware of the psychological climate around you, aware of yourself and how you might be perceived.

This latter issue can be difficult for individualists who are accustomed to not caring what others think of them.  So these folks are liable to be perceived in a way they don't want to be perceived simply because they don't give a rip about what others think.  I'm not sure if I'm being clear here; it doesn't read the way I want it to sound.

I have spent most of my life pretending to be someone I'm not in order to please others.  For the last 7 years or so I've been working on getting away from that tendency.  It's very difficult to do, but I'm finally starting to see some results.  Now I'm realizing that I have to be careful not to take that "I don't care what you think about me" attitude too far in the other direction.  In order to be left alone as much as possible, I have to walk a pretty thin line.  

Balance is one of the most difficult things to learn in life.  I haven't arrived yet.  Thanks, y'all, for your posts.  They have given me much meditative fodder over the last couple of days!

PL
Title: Perceptions
Post by: dogsledder54 on August 13, 2005, 08:31:45 pm
Phil: they were good posts. No need to appy-polly-loggy. But now, we DO expect smartness from you. ;)  
Title: Perceptions
Post by: Pagan on August 14, 2005, 07:32:49 am
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(Haven't heard an explanation on the heavy coat yet.)

Well, they apparently didn't find a weapon on him, so it wasn't to hide anything. Maybe he just had no safe place to keep the coat. Not knowing what the weather would be, he brought it with him, and then was stuck trying to carry it around -- so he wore it.

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Perceptions are truly important, and could mean life or death. I've concluded that it's about awareness--being aware of your surroundings, aware of the psychological climate around you, aware of yourself and how you might be perceived.

This latter issue can be difficult for individualists who are accustomed to not caring what others think of them. So these folks are liable to be perceived in a way they don't want to be perceived simply because they don't give a rip about what others think. I'm not sure if I'm being clear here; it doesn't read the way I want it to sound.

You're being quite clear and I agree with you on all counts.

The point I keep going back to is we cannot answer for other people's perceptions, we just don't know how they are going to respond. If we try too hard to fit in a mold, we can be suspect the same as if we don't try at all. In short, we have little  control over how we will be perceived, even when we try to manipulate that perception]/I] by our own actions.

We also 'perceive' certain attributes and attitudes online, from posters here; we 'perceive' how they may look and what kind of personality they carry around with them. And we might be wrong, as well as right.  
(We ASSUME they are Honest... Righteous... Life-affirming fireflies on a quest for Freedom, right? :-))

"Perception" is a mental process, a learning process, as well as a process of the senses. Once perceived, nothing may change that perception.
Libertarianism itself is perceived badly, based on what people have heard and read -- however true or false that information was. And ithat perception is very hard to alter, even when we go out of our way to explain the REAL libertarianism.
Likewise information about libertarianism (to continue the example) may have been factual, and the listener may have understood it correctly -- but if the listener's idea of political perfection is the Democratic Party, then libertarianism will never be accepted by that person because it is perceived as both immoral and unworkable.

(Didn't mean to sidetrack this into the political; I realize we're talking about personal perception here. But it is for the above reason that I think we should make our plans for the future and for our lives, and not worry about how we are perceived. Perception originates from the observer, and there may be nothing we can do about it.)
 
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: thedave on September 05, 2005, 04:35:24 am
Phil made an interesting point about Perceptions.  I'd like to add something that is, seemingly, unrelated, but is more germane than you might think.  It concerns how one wears one's weapons. 

While travelling last year, I had a few knives with me.  A folder, a hip-worn knife, and a straight up no doubt fighting weapon that I carried as checked baggage when flying.  I always wear one, you see, and had tools for different environments.

Fast forward to Germany.  By the time I got to Hamburg, I'd lost the folder, given away the hip knife, and only had the fighter. <sigh>  What's a boy who feels naked to do?  Wear the fighter, of course.   ^_^ When out and about, I'd wear a jacket to conceal the thing, but didn't really give much thought to it.  I'm sed to wearing knives, you see.  Well, when in the flat I was staying at, I would take off the jacket.  Funny thing:  I tripped around the place for a week before anyone noticed this big assed knife at the back of my waste. 

"My God!  That's a knife!"

<turning to see what she's pointing at>  "Uhhhhh... Yeah.  That's a knife."  <turn back to doing dishes>

"Really!  That's a big knife!"

"Ummmm.... Eeerrrrrrmmm.  Yeah.  So?"  <shrugging>

"Where did you get it?"

"Had it."

"oh."

<chuckle>

You see, I put a knife on like putting on a piece of clothing.  To me, it's a part of my attire.  A useful one, to be sure, but part of my attire nonetheless.  That perception, on my part, kept folks from having this big ass fighting knife register as a weapon, IMO.  I could probably do the same with a firearm, or any other tool for that matter. 

It's not just getting places you shouldn't that Perceptions matter, folks.  Just a thought.

Balance

D
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: onlyfittin on August 18, 2006, 09:24:51 pm
Often, clothes make the man (or woman).  I've noticed that the thrift stores often have complete donated uniforms from ex-empoyees of various businesses.  This includes some of the national delivery businesses.  Even a work shirt with a name on it coupled with work pants and shoes tends to give a certain impression.  Once, while wearing jeans and a cowboy hat and walking around in a country store (I'd been in the hills a few days) I sold a tourist from the east coast a set of boots. Oh, well.  All the sales people were too busy.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: badmuggafugga on August 19, 2006, 02:13:22 am
Ah, but did you get your commission?
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: onlyfittin on August 21, 2006, 02:33:22 pm
Not a cent. 
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Rarick on August 21, 2006, 03:57:39 pm
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I knew a cop with a reputation for stopping people who consistently drove 'legally', because he thought they were trying to stay under the radar -- which made them suspicious to him.
I hope I don't run into that guy.  I was driving home from my wage-slavehood the other day and a cop pulled in behind me.  I drove exactly 40 miles per hour (the speed limit) for three miles, which, lemme tell ya, is not an easy task without cruise control.  He kept looking down at his computer and his radar readout and I just know that son of a bitch was trying to catch me speeding.  But I wouldn't let him do it, so HA!
See, I'm going to get killed on day because of something like this.

When a cop pulls behind me and starts checking his speed, I do things like speed up to 3 mph over for 2 seconds, then drop back to the speed limit, then edge back up one....    oh.... two....... maybe three mph, then drop back down, then I go just an edge below the speed limit, for just long enough that he has to tap his brakes.

Now, I try to use environmental excuses, such as bumps in the road or inclines and curves to "justify" my speed variation.

I also do things like suddenly need to clean my winshield wiper with all of the fluid in the resevoir.  You know how those old cars are, they spray the stuff all over the car behind them as much as on the winshield.

I had a set of headlights apear behind me one nite on one of those dark urban roads.  I was on my way to work and knew it was a bad area.  I made 2 turns basically to see if I was being tagged for some reason.  Eventually I  figured lites were an answer, and as I was approaching a 7-11 I saw the car pull up closer, still no Idea who it was.  When ran the stop lite to get into the lit parking lot, I finally recognized the police cruiser.  I sat for a good 30 seconds, nothing happened, so I called the cell phone and asked if there was a police cruiser XXXXX numbers of the side, in the area.  I got a yes answer. I told them that he had either go away, or I would file for harrasment, and explained why.  I then got out of the car, and waved him over, explained the buttons he pushed and told him to go away.  I also explained the cellphone call.  I was not exactly polite, he started to pufF up, and I told him that my phonecall to the dispatch would serve as additional proof of his harrassment.  I got back in my car and dialled the dispatch number while he continued to sit there.  The sgt showed up I explained things to him, and expained that the officer insisted on sitting there instead of moving on.  I explained if the continued illegal detention continued, I would file charges.  That seemed tio solve things, they evaporated. fortunately that job was a salary position so time was flexible, but I wrote a complaint anyway.  3 miles in the dark with a tailgater of unknown intentions........

Perception affects a lot of things, and knowing how to manipulate it can save a lot of trouble.  I had just picked up 4 cases of .50BMG for a buddy and we were going to the range in the morning, but I was not about to allow a search for "suspicious behavior".  I had my plans, and wasn'rt going to allow a "theft for public saftey" happen and ruin them. All of it was in the trunk, but why give the initiative away.

I definately gotta get a .50 cal rifle to include in the goodies.  Hitting someone from across a valley is a serious advantage, and definately and excellent wat to say "you're tresspassing"  In a TEOTWAWKI situation.  (a couple of rounds thru tires or a trailer hitch?) The Big Hole also makes a statement to those who may recognise what it means.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: anachronism on August 24, 2006, 09:33:25 pm
I've made a lifetime of being as invisible as possible. I don't ever stand out unless it's important for me to do so. Remember, the high nail gets hammered.

Your perceptions are your reality, right or wrong, intelligent or otherwise. Other peoples perceptions are their realities. How do you want to appear? I don't want to appear on someone else's radar at all.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: khagler on August 29, 2006, 05:17:16 pm
I've been thinking about this thread in light of the poor Brazilian guy in London.  He's wearing a heavy coat in warm weather, he doesn't stop when they say stop, he's dead.  Turns out he was afraid of being mugged.  (Haven't heard an explanation on the heavy coat yet.)  The man is dead because of perceptions, on his part and the bobbies', whether they were correct or not.

It actually came out within the weeks after the shooting (to much less media attention, of course) that he wasn't wearing a heavy coat, hadn't run, and was never told to stop. The cops who murdered him made all that up to cover their mistake.
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: mutti on August 29, 2006, 05:29:04 pm
Hide in plain sight. I like that.

Unasumming, conservative housewife. Cans, milks goats, raises the kids. Little bit of an opinionated mouth, but just general "Jane Doe". 

Screw with me though and I might remember my former "irritated from South Central 'tude" mitigated by a little bit of military training and wake your tush up.

Mutti
Title: Re: Perceptions
Post by: Ponce on December 07, 2006, 03:48:32 pm
In this Micky Mouse one mule town is very hard to look normal because every one is abnormal, by that I mean that they are either on drugs or on welfare and stamps........ in order to blen in I would have to grow a beard wear old clothes and walk like a zombie, I refuse to do that.

About "perception", as a dumb Cuban refugee with a 10th grade education that's what made me such a good garage inventor "perception" is not what is but what you can make it be.

A friend of mine had an assignment where he was supposed to write as to how many different things he could do with a glass ashtray and he asked me for my help......well, I gave him 112 different uses and the next guy had only 39 and he (me) was the only only one to write that it could be use for cigarettes ashes.

For WTSHTF I do have some special decals for my SUV together with an all white monkey suit with a respirator and some special patches and other goodies.......no one will get withing 50 feet from me hahahahahahaah.

Is not what is but what you make it be by making others believe...... Ponce