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Title: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on March 20, 2006, 01:39:02 pm
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: henshawe on March 20, 2006, 02:59:04 pm
G'Day All

Whoa what a new/old idea you have brought to mind Kirsten. Are you old enough to remember the incredibly prolific output of freedom/protest songs from the 60's and 70's song writers and performers? Some of the people I remember are

Bob Dylan
Phil Ochs
Joan Baez
Buffy St. Marie
Tom Paxton
Simon and Garfunkel
Tom Leher
Jimi Hendrix

and so many more I mis-remember right know. The point being all were highly politicised, yes many from the so-called left of the political spectrum. However this does not detract from their primary concern, which was FREEDOM for every boy and girl, FREEDOM for you and me!

Some songs that resonate with me still are from the inimetable Bob Dylan

Blowin' In The Wind
A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall
Masters of War
The Times They Are a Changin'
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Dylan was of course from the so-called poetic school where he created myth, and poetry from which created his songs. Many of us at the time believed Dylan should be the Poet Laurate of the US.

Another singer, song writer I remember is a guy by the name of Phil Ochs, a journalist who wrote songs about our, then immediate realities we faced during those times. I still remember his signature release titled "All The News That's Fit To Sing" with such great songs as

Is There Anybody There
I Ain't Marchin' Anymore
There But For Fortune
Draft Dodger Rag
Power and Glory

Damn, as I type this tunes and singer/songwriters are swirling through my mind so fast I can't grasp them fast enough to get them all down.

During those times songs and music were indeed percieved as subversive by the mainstream media and TPTB as well as a majority of parents and Grand-Parents. They all thought the world was going to hell in a hand basket  :laugh: and all who loved the music were seriously deranged, in fact they believed we all should be medicated for our own good. :rolleyes: What they failed to understand at the beginning of all this "agitatin'" was the simple fact we were already medicated into an alternative reality, you see we believed we could "Change the World" and that concept scared the shit out of all the conservative/Liberal goons. Just to damn much FREEDOM going on!

Last song I will mention is from Jimi Hendrix, which I consider the ultimate freedom/protest song. I know many here will remember, those who were in Nam, sitting in a Hooch, smokeing a "dubbie" and a beer in hand would sing along to "All Along The Watchtower" and wonder what the fuck we were doing in that crazy place of death and destruction.

So let's do it, create a streaming audio/tape recorder or whatever to have freedon/protest songs on the boards as a freebie for all to listen too as we and our guests mull the ways to promote and achieve FREEDOM in our life times.

Regards,

Americus

Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Junker on March 20, 2006, 08:47:56 pm
Strange Fruit (http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/strangefruit/protest.html)

PBS on Protest Music: Artists, songs, lyrics. 1776 to Now


"Visit these Web sites to hear the anti-war message music being created today:

"The Beastie Boys Web site featuring 'In A World Gone Mad'

"The Not in My Name Music Project, a collaboration of artists including Saul Williams/DJ Spooky, Coldcut and Dj Goo

"The John Mellencamp Web site featuring 'To Washington'

"The Lenny Kravitz Web site featuring 'We Want Peace'

"Downloadable MP3 collection at Protest-Records.com"
- - -

Then also:

Political protest rock band. www.pokerface.com

Riotfolk - making folk a threat again. www.riotfolk.org

At the archives, Missing String Band's Ruby Ridge (http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=28723&from=browsePopular).


Or just google "Protest Music". Lots of mp3's.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Simon_Jester on March 20, 2006, 10:43:24 pm
A nice list of songs here...but, are they really songs that speak to Liberty? They speak to the anti-war sentiment but not to the anti-state/individualist.
The songs listed in the original list speak to something else.
Steve Earle-Copperhead Road
Sammy Hagar-I Can't Drive 55
Rush-Red Barchetta
Rush-Bravado
Rush-2112 Overture/The Temples of Syrinx/Discovery/Presentation/Oracle/The Dream/Soliloquy/Grand Finale
Roger Waters-The Tide Is Turning
Prism-Take Me To The Kaptin
Paul Kantner-The Mountain Song
Paul Kantner-The Sky Is No Limit
Aimee Allen-(I'd Start A) Revolution
Paul Kantner-Transubstantiation
Paul Kantner-Let's Go (Alternate Lyrics)

While anti-war and Liberty may go together I see a difference in them. Fostering the Liberty Mindset eliminates the war mindset given time.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on March 20, 2006, 11:54:27 pm
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on March 21, 2006, 12:01:26 am
G'Day All

Whoa what a new/old idea you have brought to mind Kirsten. Are you old enough to remember the incredibly prolific output of freedom/protest songs from the 60's and 70's song writers and performers? Some of the people I remember are

Bob Dylan
Phil Ochs
Joan Baez
Buffy St. Marie
Tom Paxton
Simon and Garfunkel
Tom Leher
Jimi Hendrix

and so many more I mis-remember right know. The point being all were highly politicised, yes many from the so-called left of the political spectrum. However this does not detract from their primary concern, which was FREEDOM for every boy and girl, FREEDOM for you and me!

Wow,  now THERE are a bunch of names that I haven't thought of lately...!   :-)

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Some songs that resonate with me still are from the inimetable Bob Dylan

Blowin' In The Wind
A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall
Masters of War
The Times They Are a Changin'
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Dylan was of course from the so-called poetic school where he created myth, and poetry from which created his songs. Many of us at the time believed Dylan should be the Poet Laurate of the US.

Another singer, song writer I remember is a guy by the name of Phil Ochs, a journalist who wrote songs about our, then immediate realities we faced during those times. I still remember his signature release titled "All The News That's Fit To Sing" with such great songs as

Is There Anybody There
I Ain't Marchin' Anymore
There But For Fortune
Draft Dodger Rag
Power and Glory

Yeah,  I see this stuff and I can hear his voice in my head as I type this.

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Damn, as I type this tunes and singer/songwriters are swirling through my mind so fast I can't grasp them fast enough to get them all down.

During those times songs and music were indeed percieved as subversive by the mainstream media and TPTB as well as a majority of parents and Grand-Parents. They all thought the world was going to hell in a hand basket  :laugh: and all who loved the music were seriously deranged, in fact they believed we all should be medicated for our own good. :rolleyes: What they failed to understand at the beginning of all this "agitatin'" was the simple fact we were already medicated into an alternative reality, you see we believed we could "Change the World" and that concept scared the shit out of all the conservative/Liberal goons. Just to damn much FREEDOM going on!

And damned if I hadn't decided,  though the odds weren't real terrific,  that if they'd tried to send me "over there" I wasn't going!

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Last song I will mention is from Jimi Hendrix, which I consider the ultimate freedom/protest song. I know many here will remember, those who were in Nam, sitting in a Hooch, smokeing a "dubbie" and a beer in hand would sing along to "All Along The Watchtower" and wonder what the fuck we were doing in that crazy place of death and destruction.

Didja know that Dylan wrote (and performed) that one too?

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So let's do it, create a streaming audio/tape recorder or whatever to have freedon/protest songs on the boards as a freebie for all to listen too as we and our guests mull the ways to promote and achieve FREEDOM in our life times.

Regards,

Americus

Works for me!
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on March 21, 2006, 08:58:20 am
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: texasbrat54 on March 21, 2006, 10:07:30 am
Hi,
  I'm new here, but if you do remember some of the old songs, there are a few here http://friendshipvillage.homestead.com/Music.html . I stumbled on it awhile back. It has some Dylan, Seeger, Baez, Lennon, and a few more...oh yeah, and Tennessee Ernie Ford...

Bless your little pea pickin' hearts,
Wanda
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Simon_Jester on March 21, 2006, 10:30:56 am
So if I want to publish a playlist to iMix, does that mean that I have to have a copy of the song itself in my iTunes library so that I can put it in a playlist?  Also, is there something we should all be naming our play lists to get them looked at?  I'm thinking if we call it "libertarian" something or other that is a good way to get it ignored, but if we call it "freedom" or "liberty' something or other (or something like that) that might get some attention.

I think you have to have the songs in order to create the playlist, which the iMix uses to publish.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/playlists/

The iMix instructions that show up in iTunes say that music which you rip from CD's won't be included, but that's only if they are unavailable in the music store. The Steve Earle, Rush and Sammy Tunes I listed came from CD's, I just retooled the titles to match iTunes...

There are quite a few iMixes that use Freedom in the title, about 20 or so that use Liberty (but they don't seem to have much to do with liberty...unless you're a Baptist Church). Picking a single title would be ideal in order to get everything gathered in a single spot.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on March 21, 2006, 06:53:34 pm
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Simon_Jester on March 21, 2006, 07:20:03 pm
Well, I just checked and I have a version that is high enough to allow me to do this without upgrading.  Cool! 

I did a quick little search- is A Libertarian Liberty List yours?  I sense that rating or alphabetical order may have something to do with what order the search results are returned.
That was the first test list I put up. If we can flood iMix with something else I am all for it. I'm not sure what criteria they use for search returns, but filling up a section couldn't hurt!.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on March 21, 2006, 11:43:27 pm
Hi,
  I'm new here, but if you do remember some of the old songs, there are a few here http://friendshipvillage.homestead.com/Music.html . I stumbled on it awhile back. It has some Dylan, Seeger, Baez, Lennon, and a few more...oh yeah, and Tennessee Ernie Ford...

Bless your little pea pickin' hearts,
Wanda

Interesting stuff...

Now all I gotta do is figure out how to make my software deal with a .wma file,  whatever that is.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Junker on March 22, 2006, 12:57:31 pm
Having trouble getting .WMV, .WMA, and .ASF files - the Windows-based media formats - to open on your Linux box?

Add Windows media support to your Linux box (http://allyourtech.com/content/articles/28_12_2005_add_windows_media_support_to_your_linux_box.php)
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on March 22, 2006, 11:50:41 pm
Having trouble getting .WMV, .WMA, and .ASF files - the Windows-based media formats - to open on your Linux box?

Add Windows media support to your Linux box (http://allyourtech.com/content/articles/28_12_2005_add_windows_media_support_to_your_linux_box.php)


Funny that the first thing they mention on that page is xine,  which I do have installed here,  but use for video-type stuff.  I guess trying to use xmms was kinda silly?  Anyhow,  I just tried it on the one file that I downloaded,  and sure enough it worked.

Now if I could just figure out how to get xmms to use the same codecs...

But _after_ I get some sleep!  :-)
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: FREE RIFLEMAN on May 05, 2006, 12:50:44 am
I'm not sure if anyone here has read Claire and Aaron's "Out of the Grey Zone", but they also wrote the song, "Judgement Day" that accompanies the book, or you can download it from the Rebel Fire, website:

http://www.rebelfirerock.com/home.html

My favorite version is performed by Opium War and every metal-head that hears it wants to know if they ever plan on writing more! I listen to that song ten times a day. The book cover is my background at work with the words written onto it... get this, here's the best part... on a government computer!  :ph34r:

I really think that liberty music is the way to go, I like music, but I love music that sounds great and flips off those who wish to take my freedoms away all in less than a half note!

(I realize I'm a newbie, I'm just now finding time to spend blogging when I'm not so busy building rifles...)
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on May 05, 2006, 11:15:49 am
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Junker on May 10, 2006, 06:32:36 am
Band: Uncle Earl
Genre: Bluegrass
Title: Raise a Ruckus2.5M (http://www.archive.org/download/uncearl2005-01-21.sbd.flac16/uncearl2005-01-21t05_64kb.mp3)
Ogg Vorbis - 4.3M (http://www.archive.org/download/uncearl2005-01-21.sbd.flac16/uncearl2005-01-21t05.ogg)
VBR MP3 - 5.1M (http://www.archive.org/download/uncearl2005-01-21.sbd.flac16/uncearl2005-01-21t05_vbr.mp3)[/list]
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Jack21221 on May 10, 2006, 11:56:30 am
A song that might go good on this list:

Artist: Pennywise
Title: Fuck Authroity
Genre: Rock

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tUxL6qF5jPY <--Video of the song
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Kirsten on May 10, 2006, 10:17:53 pm
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Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Jack21221 on August 09, 2006, 07:28:00 am
I know this topic is a bit old, and the music video is as important as the actual song, so something would be lost on iTunes, but check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA0BXsdQ3O8

It's Disturbed's cover of a 1986 Genesis song, "Land of Confusion"

It's a great video, showing multi-national JBTs, the big corperations that keep them in power, and people not taking it anymore.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Simon_Jester on August 29, 2006, 09:23:01 am
I liked that video. It was well done, even if the music was too much like the original. Music video subversion could have a place, if there were enough videos of the right sort out there. Unfortunately, I don't know if there will ever be enough of them. Putting up links on blogs and sites might work for some folks. It's definitely worth thinking about.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Tahn L. on February 27, 2007, 02:06:51 pm
Kirsten,

What a GREAT freedom idea, to have its own music category. It is thoughts like this, that will promote the cause, without harm to others.

 I cannot download music and have no ipod, although I know what they are. The rest is gibberish to me poor brain. I may get my GrandDaughter to take me shopping for one.

Thanks for sharing and good luck on making/seeing it happen.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Resurgam on January 27, 2008, 04:53:16 am
One of my all time favorite bands, the Clash, have a ton of material dealing with resistance to tyranny.

Most notably IMO is "Guns of Brixton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQoq-wqZxg)."

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When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, Guns of Brixton

The money feels good
And your life you like it well
But surely your time will come
As in heaven, as in hell

You see, he feels like Ivan
BORN under the Brixton sun
His game is called survivin'
At the end of the harder they come

You know it means no mercy
They caught him with a gun
No need for the Black Maria
Goodbye to the Brixton sun

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh-the guns of Brixton

When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

You can crush us
You can bruise us
And even shoot us
But oh- the guns of Brixton

Shot down on the pavement
Waiting in death row
His game was survivin'
As in heaven as in hell

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, the guns of Brixton
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: dogsledder54 on March 12, 2008, 11:53:19 am
(another Paul Kantner song, "We should be together" ) by   Jefferson Airplane:
"We are all outlaws in the eyes of America. In order to survive, we steal, cheat, lie, forge,f***, hide, and deal
We are obscene, lawless, hideous, dangerous. dirty, violent, and young.
And we should be together, aahh, you and me."

Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Mr. Dare on March 12, 2008, 01:20:00 pm
 :thumbsup: Jefferson Airplane! Great band! I didn't care much for the later Starship stuff, though even some early Starship wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: redpill on June 22, 2008, 11:54:28 am
Immortal Technique (Rap)
Sweating Honey (Vibes/Indie)
Les Claypool (From Primus) (Weird Trippy Rock)
Rage Against The Machine (Rap Rock)
Tool (Rock)

Ill post some more but those are the first to come to mind that are newer music, I have a very diverse collection including all that have already been posted.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Mr. Dare on June 22, 2008, 05:27:19 pm
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Immortal Technique (Rap)
Sweating Honey (Vibes/Indie)

Those two are new ones on me, but I like the other three rather a lot so i'll be checking out the new ones. Thanks!
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: vonuvan on June 22, 2008, 05:40:12 pm
Monster by Steppenwolf
the whole album is pretty much subversive if not exposive
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Mr. Dare on June 22, 2008, 05:42:04 pm
 :thumbsup: One of the all time greats, and probably Steppenwolf's finest work.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Spaceplayer on March 27, 2009, 03:36:25 am
 Hi, this is my first post here. I just found this forum from Claire Wolfe's blog site.

 This thread is a topic personally important to me, as a musician. I am an instrumental composer, and my project is called Spaceplayer. Normally I write Floydish/experimental music, but the recent events in the world have forced their way into my music enough for me to comment in lyrics. So, I hope this isn't too presumptuous for a first post, but I wanted to add my song to the list of protest songs; I saw someone ask earlier about songs specifically about individualism versus the state, so here is the link to my song, "Earth in the Balance," on youtube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJDGlsnkE60 It's heavy, but then, so are the lyrics. A bit of 2112 and Ayn Rand:

"A meteoric rise to fame/
what's ours to lose was yours to gain/
as you pulled on the reins/
so you could remain/
the king that you think you are/
yeah, you're a supertzar/
you held us so far, you held our mind in chains/
made us wonder who is crazy and who is sane/
our sanction of guilt was the key to our shame/
and our self-sacrifice was the claim to your fame/
but I know who you are and I know you're to blame/
'cause I know the score...and I know you're name..."

 Thanks,
Joe aka Spaceplayer
spaceplayermusic.com

 
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Mr. Dare on March 27, 2009, 06:40:09 pm
Welcome Joe!  :hello: Always nice to welcome a fellow freedom musician to the board. Loved your song, is it self produced or did you record in a studio? Either way, it's very good. What instruments do you play?
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Spaceplayer on April 03, 2009, 07:51:59 pm
Thanks! It's self-produced and I played all the instruments (guitars, bass, drums, and vocals.)
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Spaceplayer on April 09, 2009, 10:43:25 am
 I should mention that the video contains pages from my "graphic poem": A SHOW OF HANDS: A CAUTIONARY TALE OF HEROES IN EXILE. It's based on the politics of the Marvel Universe of comic books, from the p.o.v of Captain America, a witness to generations of the erosion of Liberty. It's also a set-up of sorts to the society depicted in Ayn Rand's ANTHEM. The link to the pdf is below. I created this for activism purposes, so if anyone wants to use it for that, feel free to print or share.

http://spaceplayermusic.com/ashowofhands.pdf

It also is meant to be a "throwing down of the gauntlet," a message that heroes are not meant to be sacrificed, whether politically, artistically, economically, or socially.

Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Roy J. Tellason on May 27, 2009, 06:53:19 pm
I should mention that the video contains pages from my "graphic poem": A SHOW OF HANDS: A CAUTIONARY TALE OF HEROES IN EXILE. It's based on the politics of the Marvel Universe of comic books, from the p.o.v of Captain America, a witness to generations of the erosion of Liberty. It's also a set-up of sorts to the society depicted in Ayn Rand's ANTHEM. The link to the pdf is below. I created this for activism purposes, so if anyone wants to use it for that, feel free to print or share.

http://spaceplayermusic.com/ashowofhands.pdf

It also is meant to be a "throwing down of the gauntlet," a message that heroes are not meant to be sacrificed, whether politically, artistically, economically, or socially.



While not the sort of thing I'd normally go for,  I can see where this would speak to some folks.   :-)

"Destiny or Doom!"  -- I like it!


Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: dlvrme on May 28, 2009, 11:29:08 pm
Bob Marley anybody?


I just listened to Kansas "Carry on my Wayward Son" for the first time in years, it kinda blew me away, and it had a "matrix" type theme to it
Also Supertramp "Breakfast in America" 
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: icbkr on June 11, 2009, 10:58:18 pm
Lovely thread, I'm definitely going to get some of those I've not previously heard of.  No, nothing more to say.  This is just to complete my purgatory assignment so I can ask about a TANJ damned radio.

icbkr
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: reepotomac on July 26, 2011, 05:38:34 pm
Y'all missed My Country My Ass
designed to take the message straight to the enemy. YOU can help get it on the radio. If you can't do this, you aren't even trying.
tell more people!
http://mycountrymyass.com
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: gaurdduck on July 26, 2011, 09:40:16 pm
I don't feel like it.

Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: defenestrate on December 18, 2011, 10:16:33 pm
from the oIrish: Black and Tans, The Fields of Athenry, plenty more listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_rebel_music

a bit newer -
Tin Soldiers
Little Boxes
Eve of Destuction

I'll probably list more recently made stuff (System of a Down comes to mind immediately, as well as some of Metallica's stuff (Master of Puppets and esp. And Justice for All) but there is plenty more)

My Friend Drew Landry plays some somewhat subversive songs as well. He's a folksy sort of musician I hope to get a chance to work with one of these days.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: A Patriot on May 02, 2016, 02:11:57 pm
G'Day All

Whoa what a new/old idea you have brought to mind Kirsten. Are you old enough to remember the incredibly prolific output of freedom/protest songs from the 60's and 70's song writers and performers? Some of the people I remember are

Bob Dylan
Phil Ochs
Joan Baez
Buffy St. Marie
Tom Paxton
Simon and Garfunkel
Tom Leher
Jimi Hendrix

and so many more I mis-remember right know. The point being all were highly politicised, yes many from the so-called left of the political spectrum. However this does not detract from their primary concern, which was FREEDOM for every boy and girl, FREEDOM for you and me!

Some songs that resonate with me still are from the inimetable Bob Dylan

Blowin' In The Wind
A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall
Masters of War
The Times They Are a Changin'
Subterranean Homesick Blues
Dylan was of course from the so-called poetic school where he created myth, and poetry from which created his songs. Many of us at the time believed Dylan should be the Poet Laurate of the US.

Another singer, song writer I remember is a guy by the name of Phil Ochs, a journalist who wrote songs about our, then immediate realities we faced during those times. I still remember his signature release titled "All The News That's Fit To Sing" with such great songs as

Is There Anybody There
I Ain't Marchin' Anymore
There But For Fortune
Draft Dodger Rag
Power and Glory

Damn, as I type this tunes and singer/songwriters are swirling through my mind so fast I can't grasp them fast enough to get them all down.

During those times songs and music were indeed percieved as subversive by the mainstream media and TPTB as well as a majority of parents and Grand-Parents. They all thought the world was going to hell in a hand basket  :laugh: and all who loved the music were seriously deranged, in fact they believed we all should be medicated for our own good. :rolleyes: What they failed to understand at the beginning of all this "agitatin'" was the simple fact we were already medicated into an alternative reality, you see we believed we could "Change the World" and that concept scared the shit out of all the conservative/Liberal goons. Just to damn much FREEDOM going on!

Last song I will mention is from Jimi Hendrix, which I consider the ultimate freedom/protest song. I know many here will remember, those who were in Nam, sitting in a Hooch, smokeing a "dubbie" and a beer in hand would sing along to "All Along The Watchtower" and wonder what the fuck we were doing in that crazy place of death and destruction.

So let's do it, create a streaming audio/tape recorder or whatever to have freedon/protest songs on the boards as a freebie for all to listen too as we and our guests mull the ways to promote and achieve FREEDOM in our life times.

Regards,

Americus

Yep,  remember these artists well. I still have all my albums.  I liked "Ian & Sylvia," non-political.
" Richard & Mimi Farina," very political.
"Buffy Saint- Marie," speaks for American Indians.

Have a Martin guitar, a few dulcimers, an Oscar Schmitt Autoharp  and a "mouth bow." Yep, an ol' folkie... Even have my "AR turntable," anybody remember those??
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: A Patriot on May 02, 2016, 09:04:52 pm
Music video:  http://youtu.be/vaE9vlrhX-k
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Maz on September 07, 2016, 10:35:23 pm
This is my first post,  I wanted to say thanks for this thread,  I like art and music!

There is a thread on the Freedomline also has music,  I posted a lot of my favorite musicians that I have been listening to over the years.  http://thefreedomline.com/forums/index.php?topic=549.0
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Maz on September 08, 2016, 03:02:13 am
Walkin thru the devils lair, breathin the devils air, drinkin his sweat, eatin his swine
They gonna try and take your soul, but they damn sure aint taken mine!

What did they do with the aborted baby fetus?
Did they use it to feed us?
Put it in the skin cream,  or was that a bad dream?

Its in how the schools have no windows and look like a prison,  and all the superficial egos wt no vision

Its in how I look at my phone in moments of insecurity,  regroup gather yourself and begin to think clearly,  checkin your phone relentlessly is spiritual suicide tremendously

Its in the debt based currency, sorcery, usery, witchcraft, something demonic by nature, something I have hate for!  Be an individual, the divinity of the god within for that be grateful.  Its funny all of these years I haven't seen any pyramids here except for the one in Las Vegas,  why did they put the Luxor on the dollar bill anyway?
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Tahn L. on September 08, 2016, 10:49:08 am
Welcome Home Maz, Youíll find it nice here. We all love our freedom so be of good cheer.

Donít care where youíre from or which way you swing, What color you are or religion you bring.

Donít aggress against others, thatís our main point. Weíve got lots to share, itís an interesting joint.

Old threads are extensive in what you can learn, feel free to input. We all take a turn.

Some are quite rowdy, some have passed on, and some are quite mellow and break into song.

Regardless of who or where you have been, weíll try and be helpful and make you fit in.

FREEDOM!
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: DiabloLoco on September 08, 2016, 03:34:02 pm
Welcome Home Maz, Youíll find it nice here. We all love our freedom so be of good cheer.

Donít care where youíre from or which way you swing, What color you are or religion you bring.

Donít aggress against others, thatís our main point. Weíve got lots to share, itís an interesting joint.

Old threads are extensive in what you can learn, feel free to input. We all take a turn.

Some are quite rowdy, some have passed on, and some are quite mellow and break into song.

Regardless of who or where you have been, weíll try and be helpful and make you fit in.

FREEDOM!
:laugh: Great post, Tahn.
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: Byte Me on September 13, 2016, 09:26:59 am
Here's an interesting take on the beginnings of the 'anti-war' and 'freedom' music scene that emerged from Laurel Canyon in the 60's.  Some of the names might be familiar to you.  An interesting read to say the least.

http://www.futile.work/nwsltrs/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-1

Let me know what you think.   :brave:
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: heyoka on September 14, 2016, 08:55:53 am
interesting? yes
So are your sarcasm quotes.
The Vietnam police action went on for twenty years. Forty five years ago was near the end, probably past the pragmatic end.
That the musically inclined offspring of plutocrats would form a clique, and meet somewhere is somewhat unremarkable. Bikers go to Sturgis, Laconia, Red River and Laughlin, shooters go to Knob Creek, Camp Perry and Buffalo Creek, cow culture flocks to Cheyenne Frontier Days and the Denver Stock Show and so forth.
It seems like the article's slant has the tail waging the dog. The minstrels were a product of the culture, more so than multiplicands or divisors.
There's little irony in David Crosby packin. The old CSNY joke (partially fueled by some of the band members becoming calorically challenged) was "What weighs more, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young or the Queen Mary?.......................trick question, when they're fully armed they weight the same."
Frank Zappa's passion was classical music. Upon his death, they found thousands of hours of sixteen track recordings in the environmentally controlled labyrinth beneath his house. It's still being released and not uncommonly heard on classical music radio stations. Like any good crapitalist, he let the invisible hand guide him, writing songs about titties and beer and the devil.
I suppose that the lime light on an unfortunately violent narcissistic cult in the vicinity added to the notoriety. In the light of modern jihad-ism, it too seems sort of minor.

Neil Young
Revolution Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0)
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: DiabloLoco on September 14, 2016, 02:47:07 pm

Neil Young
Revolution Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZilu4ApCI0)
Manson? :huh:

Good song, but the inspiration for it is pretty shady. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Subversion by Music
Post by: heyoka on September 14, 2016, 08:29:12 pm
think of it as rock noir
...............................or not