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 on: August 19, 2019, 08:26:34 pm 
Started by Joe Kelley - Last post by Joe Kelley
"Avoiding places that bill themselves as schools is often a good idea."

Thanks for the correction. Misleading words like schooling ought to be avoided.

Even the term education has many contrary meanings.

Learning is pretty sold.

 "The difference seemed to be that while education was still spoken of as a "preparation for life," the preparation was of a kind which bore less directly on intellect and character than in former times, and more directly on proficiency. It aimed at what we used to call training rather than education; and it not only did very little with education, but seemed to assume that training was education, thus overriding a distinction that formerly was quite clear. Forty years ago a man trained to proficiency in anything was respected accordingly, but was not regarded as an educated man, or "just as good," on the strength of it. A trained mechanic, banker, dentist or man of business got all due credit for his proficiency, but his education, if he had any, lay behind that and was not confused with it. His training, in a word, bore directly upon what he could do or get, while his education bore directly on neither; it bore upon what he could become and be."
The Disadvantages of Being Educated
Albert Jay Nock

The following is also useful for learning a few things about school and education:

ohn Taylor Gatto - The Purpose Of Schooling


 on: August 19, 2019, 06:03:43 pm 
Started by Joe Kelley - Last post by Bill St. Clair
Avoiding places that bill themselves as schools is often a good idea. Avoiding learning new things is fatal. And boring.

 on: August 17, 2019, 08:51:36 pm 
Started by Joe Kelley - Last post by Joe Kelley
I’m going to make a bold statement to the so-called choir.

Many people I meet, almost everyone to the man and woman, refused to go to school. They have been taught to avoid it at all cost charged to anyone who may breath a message suggesting a need to learn something new.

To me, on the other hand, school never stops, as far as I know, and in the end - perhaps - school does stop: death.

 on: August 17, 2019, 08:30:42 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
Well, this is really not "news", but just a comment.

This is another example of a continuation of the mistake that liberals made in the time up to the 2016 election, a mistake that cost the democrats the election.  The mistake:  "Labelling more than half the country (what I would call the "real" people of America, those who can actually think for themselves and don't rely on silly slogans and "strange" ideas for their opinions) as STUPID, in this case too stupid to know where Greenland is (not the point that I don't think anyone in the Whitehouse is seriously considering acquiring Greenland).

When I saw the video of Hillary Clinton calling a huge number of people ("Trump supporters") "a basket of deplorables, homophobes, islamophobes, transphobes, satanophobes, sugartaxand plasticstrawophobes, anytaxophobes, deepstateophobes etc."  I knew the election was in the bag for the conservatives.

She added, “And I wonder you know this is something you know his supporters are like just blind followers of his and I wonder when this becomes a talking point of his on the campaign trail, can anybody at the MAGA rally point out Greenland on a map? I would be very interested and curious to see. Or tell us what kind of government Greenland is or who the indigenous people are. I highly doubt it. I think when you have a lack of understanding of global diplomacy, you can easily throw out these asinine ideas and have, you know, the sheep following the wolf.

 on: August 16, 2019, 10:55:37 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse

Imagine if it had been Hillary in the picture.  At least Bill shaved his legs.

He did pose for the painting, right?  Or do you think the artist did it from memory?

 on: August 16, 2019, 06:15:54 pm 
Started by Joe Kelley - Last post by Joe Kelley
More evidence of the ongoing power struggle between Voluntary Mutual Defense (agreements agreed upon by volunteers) and the opposite which is Counterfeit Law. Note please that some of the earliest attempts to counterfeit Law Power arrived in forms of Summary Justice titled with many deceptive labels: Exchequer, Maritime, Nisi Prius, Admiralty, Equity, etc.
Book Review. The Transformation of American Law, 1780-1860 by Morton J. Horwitz

"More and more, courts resorted to the idea of damnum absque injuria to deny a plaintiff's claim. By accomplishing subsidization through the legal system rather than through taxation, Horwitz maintains, the ultimate political choices were hidden from view and insulated from debate. The developmental urge had captured the courts, and it was by this allegedly apolitical agency of government that the subsidy was levied."

Exemplify double-speak:
damnum absque injuria
"loss or damage without injury"

Does that depend upon what is is?

If the people decide through their representatives in a Trial by the Country (Trial by Jury) what anyone can do to anyone without consequence, and what anyone can do to anyone with consequence, then that is one thing, one form of government, by a tribe, or by a people homesteading within a specified geographical area. The other thing is not the same thing as a people, through their representatives in a jury, deciding fact, law, guilt, evidence, innocence, remedy, restitution, or punishment. The other thing, other than Trial by the Country, is termed: Summary Justice.

A government by, of, and for the whole people as one, on one side.

B Government by, of, and for Special Interest Groups, at the expense of everyone, on the other side.

Not one meaning for the word government, but two meanings for the word government, where one meaning is truth based, and original, and the other meaning is false based and counterfeit. If you refuse to see it, then that is your choice.

One is original, grass-roots, organic, natural, reasonable, spiritual, religious, honorable, truthful, productive, adaptive, preventive, and this one deters crime before crime ripens to fruition.

The other is counterfeit, top-down, inorganic, unnatural, unreasonable, spiritless, anti-religious, dishonorable, false, destructive, entropic, undefendable, and this one creates criminals exponentially.

Some people caught in the exponential growth rate of counterfeit government are made to ignore the alternative as if there never was, and never will be an alternative to the exponential growth rate of counterfeit government - criminal - power.

What does the following mean in context of Law (due process) versus Equity (Summary Justice)?

Chapter 14
Article I, Section 11
“That justice may be speedily as well as impartially done, and that to prevent tedious and expensive pilgrimages to obtain it, I do for me and mine hereby declare and establish . . . that monthly sessions shall be held in every country in which all sorts of causes belonging to that county shall be heard and finally determined, whether relating to civil or criminal acts. And . . . that every person may freely plead his own cause or bring his friend to do it for him. And the judges are hereby obliged to inform him or her what they can to his or her assistance in the matter before him, that none be prejudiced through ignorance in their own business . . .”

Free stuff?

Volunteers, often without pay, or their pay is restricted significantly according to statute, are given all jurisdiction at law, and these volunteers in government constitute the pool from which a grand jury is formed for the purpose of accepting accusations and moving legitimate accusation to an offer offered to an accused for the accused to defend himself against the accuser, in a trial by the country: NOT a trial by the government.

If the accuser is false, then the right thing to do is to account for that fact, and charge the false accuser a judgment that intends to discourage false accusations.

What is the opposite, counterfeit, law form in as few words as someone of letters can muster?

"The judiciary of the United States is so constructed and extended, as to absorb and destroy the judiciaries of the several states; thereby rendering laws as tedious, intricate, and expensive, and justice as unattainable by a great part of the community, as in England; and enabling the rich to oppress and ruin the poor."
George Mason, 1787

One is not the other, and the existence of the counterfeit form confirms (does not deny) the existence of the original form.


 on: August 16, 2019, 11:04:28 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by FDD

 on: August 16, 2019, 08:07:26 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
Gives a whole new meaning to "devil in a blue dress", doesn't it?

Wow, went to a search engine and typed in those random words, and 10 pages of articles depicting that image.  I first thought "how would Bill Clinton ever live it down" but then I thought "he doesn't really care".  If the picture had been of Hillary, that would have been far more telling.

Maybe I'm being a bit naïve but I'm wondering why the things that must have been found in the houses belonging to Jeffrey Epstein haven't been made more public.  I mean there was a lot of speculation (on discussion boards on the internet and news articles) as to the house on "paedophile island" being set up as with video cameras everywhere and everything kept and filed so as to enable this "world wide blackmail operation" to function (speculation that this was the source of Epstein's wealth).  "Paedophile Island" and his NYC residence must have been a "gold mine" of information.  Where do you think it all is now?

Also, who do you think the "associate" is?

Jeffrey Epstein's body has been claimed from the medical examiner's office in New York - by a mystery "associate" according to a new report.


 on: August 16, 2019, 08:05:57 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by casca-503
pay  no   attention   to   the   man   behind   the   curtain    or   the   man   on   the   hill   with  the   umbrella....

 on: August 16, 2019, 07:44:14 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by Elias Alias
Absolutely, positively, remarkably, this picture of a painting has been tied to Epstein's NYC plush pad. Thanks to Paul Craig Roberts for fetching this one.

For fun and games, enter in your favorite search engine this collection of benign words --
"Bill Clinton Blue Dress Monica Lewinsky Epstein"


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