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 on: December 17, 2018, 07:15:07 am 
Started by da gooch - Last post by knobster
found a couple of sites with building plans

enjoy

https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/extension-aben/buildingplans

https://ag.tennessee.edu/BESS/Pages/Plans.aspx

Sweet!  I'm actually poking around the web looking for goat shelters.

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 on: December 15, 2018, 08:09:55 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
Interesting.  On Friday I was talking a group of high school kids who were seeking publicity for a school holiday entertainment programme they were helping to organise.  One boy  (who appeared to be the leader) said "all we really want for Christmas is world peace, we are imaging a world where there are no fighting factions other than the two world armies - the EU Army and the UN Army - and they, and only they, have access to all firearms in the world and other weapons such as knives, clubs, bows & arrows etc.  And they control the global population with an iron fist.  That is the only way that world peace could be achieved".  The others all nodded in agreement, smiled and looked dreamily at him.

He seemed so staunch in his beliefs that I figured I'd be wasting time to say anything so I just made my excuses and walked on.

However, that made me realise that there are so many people out there who genuinely believe that their ideal of world peace MUST be achieved at all costs.  And if that cost is sacrificing all freedoms to live "under the thumb" of a world dictator in a dystopian society, that price is worth paying.  They don't even think it WOULD be a dystopian society for the majority of "law abiding citizens".  It used to be that you could just think "yeah, they will grow out of believing that, someday", but I've realised also to my horror that some people never grow out of it.  My sister still thinks that way.

These are the people who will be the "controllers" and politicians in another 20 years.  I really hope I am not around then, my kids and my grandchildren will be though and it's a scary thought.

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 on: December 15, 2018, 06:34:24 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by jamie
I believe the old saying,  everyone wants to be a tough guy and own up to the woofing until it's time to be a tough guy and own up to the woofing.

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 on: December 15, 2018, 11:54:51 am 
Started by Mr. Bill - Last post by FDD
well that is one way to make energy

 5 
 on: December 15, 2018, 11:23:18 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by kirgi07
Not here,we will not allow it. Ought 7.

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 on: December 15, 2018, 08:52:32 am 
Started by da gooch - Last post by FDD
found a couple of sites with building plans

enjoy

https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/extension-aben/buildingplans

https://ag.tennessee.edu/BESS/Pages/Plans.aspx

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 on: December 14, 2018, 10:59:05 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by jamie
And it continues and attitudes change, the "anti-gun" mob gets more aggressive and those who profess "I won't back down" think and consider and rationalise (but at the end of the day they are literally forced at GUN POINT to "back down").

Will this actually happen?

Will it succeed?

Will there be a bloodbath?

What about the 4th amendment?  House to house searches clearly violate that.  Come to think of it, so do "traffic stops".

What is to say that you own a firearm to be inspected?

Is there a list somewhere?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/11/nj-state-police-refuse-to-rule-out-house-to-house-enforcement-of-high-capacity-magazine-ban/

On December 10 Breitbart News reported that New Jersey was hours away from making it a felony to possess a magazine holding more than 10 rounds. The law took effect during the midnight hour of Tuesday, December 11.
Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban. We asked whether they would enforce it on a traffic-stop basis–checking magazines in firearms when they pulled over drivers for speeding, wreckless driving, etc.–or whether they would enforce it by going to house-to-house to check magazine capacity in the firearms New  Jersey residents kept in their homes.

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Will this actually happen?

Will it succeed?

Will there be a bloodbath?

You are asking questions that no one can answer.  What usually happens is they go after a soft target.  Someone who has a record of some kind (like anti government posts)  who can then be turned into a bad guy. And the people nod their heads and say Yeah, he deserved it.  The scope and scale of mass door kicking is too much for the bad people anyway.  So it won't happen. The strategy is to induce fear and at the same time keep up the guns are evil propaganda.  Whether it will work in the long run really doesn't matter because as famously said in the long run we'll all be dead.

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 on: December 14, 2018, 10:39:05 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by jamie
I think the agenda is to have only two armies in the world, the EU army and the UN army and all weapons (of any type whatsoever) and firearms of any type at all restricted strictly to members of those armies while they are on duty.

  If that ever happens it will be a long time from now.

It may be closer than we think. There are lots of so-called "legislators" in Congress who would love nothing better than to disarm Americans across the board.
So long as most Americans think that their country *IS* their government, they are extending their own individually-sourced sovereignty to an external authority. Hence, all the massive doses of mind-control coming at Americans via TV sets, newspapers, mass media, social networks online, etc. It seems to me that our country could be evaporating into a cloud of collectivism and its platform, which is a plan for one-world government.

Salute!
Elias

The country is evaporating into a cloud of collectivism and global government NWO and a lot worse than that.  The question is the timeline and whether or not there is the will to stop it.   The left wants people disarmed. Carrying out their plans is more difficult   against an armed population. They have been trying since 1934.

All I can say is thank God for the internet. Before there was samizdat and committees of correspondence and newsletters and books but none of that reached anywhere near what the internet has. MSM isn't nearly as powerful as they were.

 The left has the schools, the msm, a lot of civil society,  the bureaucracies and maybe half the population. Thanks largely to the 1965 immigration act. It may just be a question of waiting until the remnant dies off.

Most people don't care about individual sovereignty. They don't even know what that means.  What they do react to is their pocket book and slogans like MAGA.   Lenin had Land Peace and Bread. That worked well in 1917.
 
 

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 on: December 14, 2018, 10:20:40 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by jamie
So they rolled their eyes and groaned but it would have been better if all the people had reminded the boss that by pandering to that "SJW politically correct mantra" he sounded like a pre-programmed NPC mindlessly repeating his "lines" and also reminded him that your workplace is not a government department.

A handful of us gave him a hard time afterward.  He shrugged and said he was just following the orders he was given from above.  Sigh...

 "just following orders."   

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 on: December 14, 2018, 05:33:02 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
I   thought   that   line   about    " just  following  orders "   was   no   longer    valid   after   end   of   WW-2    &   Nuremberg    war   crime  trials......

You'd think …..  But amazingly people keep parroting that, the saying has become a leftist mantra chanted meaninglessly by NPCs who have no idea what they're saying, like "you're racist", "that's hate-speech" "you hate women", "you have to pay your fair share", "it's a social contract" etc. etc.

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