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 91 
 on: March 16, 2020, 08:23:28 am 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
This should go in "general bad news" but there is more chance of people seeing it here, and it is important that nobody misses it.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/what-constitution-champaign-il-passes-sweeping-emergency-powers-ordinance-including-banning-gun-ammo-sales/

With less than 18 hours’ notice, the Champaign, Illinois city council passed an emergency powers ordinance Friday morning, which Mayor Deborah Frank Feinen signed. The ordinance grants sweeping powers to the mayor, including the ability to order a ban on selling, transferring, or even giving away firearms or ammunition.
Some would-be authoritarians at the home of the University of Illinois think they can suspend citizens’, students’, and visitors’ Second Amendment rights on the whim of a small town mayor during a national emergency.

But wait, there’s much, much more.
The measure gives the mayor the power to:
Order the closure of all liquor stores, taverns and private clubs. Or portions thereof where alcohol is consumed.
Ban all alcohol sales by any wholesaler or retailer.
Ban the sale of fuels except to fill motor vehicles. Need gas for your generator? Sorry.
“Order the control, restriction and regulation within the City by rationing, issuing quotas, fixing or freezing prices, allocating the use, sale or distribution of food, fuel, clothing and other commodities, materials, goods or services or the necessities of life”


 92 
 on: March 16, 2020, 01:35:51 am 
Started by FDD - Last post by mi6a2lm
Went out - Fry's [Kroger] closed 1hr early, went to 24hr Walmart (closing/closed), went to other 24hr Walmart (closing in 15 minutes!).  I'll start to get anxious if the local taco shop https://www.losfavs.com/  * isn't open.

Walmart aisles (food section):





But I got what I was looking for - apparently microwavable pork egg rolls ain't on the 'we're all gonna die!' shopping list. :mellow:




*don't click on link!  you'll just die hungry

 93 
 on: March 16, 2020, 12:53:58 am 
Started by FDD - Last post by Elias Alias
The right to "refuse medical treatment" still exists.  Mandatory vaccinations still mean "medical treatment".  I don't know how states that make vaccination compulsory get round this.  People DO "own their bodies", that is in the constitution.

Well, yes, mouse. Our "Unalienable Rights" do "exist", but only if we exercise them. By not standing up for their rights (i.e., using those rights openly and freely on a regular basis) people sort of unconsciously betray their ownership of those rights. The purpose of "government" is "to govern". The more "permission" a society grants to its government, the more momentum their government develops "to better serve" the governed. These idiot State legislatures which have made it "legal" for their damned government to force people to take vaccines are completely out of their minds when it comes to honoring their oaths to the people who pay them, and are in denial of the very language in their respective State constitutions, not to mention the Constitution of the compact between all States. 
And yet the people in those States have not risen up and put the offending legislators into their proper prison cells for usurping the rights of the people. That, in and of itself, is a failure to stand for their rights. And that is an indictment on the apathy which TV and the New York media and government proclamation has produced. It's disgusting to see how low society has fallen, how sadly missing is any sign of self-respect. Here is a quote from an old classic which actually sums up the situation very nicely, if any reader is sharp enough to follow the author's line of thinking and relate well to the words chosen to express what we're mulling over here today.

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“Our contemporaries are constantly excited by two conflicting passions; they want to be led, and they wish to remain free: as they cannot destroy either one or the other of these contrary propensities, they strive to satisfy them both at once. They devise a sole, tutelary, and all-powerful form of government, but elected by the people. They combine the principle of centralization and that of popular sovereignty; this gives them a respite: they console themselves for being in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians. Every man allows himself to be put in leading-strings, because he sees that it is not a person or a class of persons, but the people at large that holds the end of his chain.
By this system the people shake off their state of dependence just long enough to select their master, and then relapse into it again. A great many persons at the present day are quite contented with this sort of compromise between administrative despotism and the sovereignty of the people; and they think they have done enough for the protection of individual freedom when they have surrendered it to the power of the nation at large. This does not satisfy me: the nature of him I am to obey signifies less to me than the fact of extorted obedience.”  ~ Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America


In a way, mouse, it's a matter of "who is minding our minds".  ;)
If any Mental Militian is not minding his/her mind, one can bet that someone else is. We may ask, having given that sentence some thought, if the CIA, FBI, NRO, DIA, ATF, IRS, DEA, and the whole host of infectuous agencies and departments which constitute our beloved "government", and the Corporate Dynasty's infusoria, the central banking system, and the military-industrial complex which keeps Wall Street's bubble afloat, and others too numerous to mention here --- we may ask if any and/or all of those mentioned and un-mentioned have any particular interest in minding our minds, the individual minds of the governed? I'd say that it is safe to bet one's bottom dollar that every damned one of them is keenly interested in the perception of the individual mind, as well as the perception of the "Group Mind" (as Edward Bernays dubbed it, or the "collective consciousness" as defined by Dr. Carl Jung).
It's called, in short, "Mind Control". And that is what is behind the reality you've described, the reality in which we still have the right of medical refusal and we still have the right to full self-ownership. If the illusion of "authority" were stripped from the power of the government, the people would do as Thomse Jefferson recommended and throw this damned-by-God government away and replace it with something useful. Remember?

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.— That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

How interesting, that such verbiage is permanently on the record in this nation's founding legal documents, and yet is totally over-looked by the masses, who seem to be quite happy in their ignorance, comfortable in their slavery, conveniently pleased and entertained in the selling of their souls to some silly-assed man-made fiction called "government".

Salute!
Elias

 94 
 on: March 15, 2020, 05:20:11 pm 
Started by FDD - Last post by mouse
All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.

no hate speech, 1st amendment

all gun laws, 2nd amendment

all asset forfeiture, 4th amendment     

just to name a few

Correct.

So it established judicial review, but it's not being applied.  This is all fine in theory but it's not being done.
Also correct.

A good question would be for anyone to come up with any perceived authority, enumerated power, and/or duty for the Federal government to own our bodies.  With this bullshit Trump is starting about a medical martial law type of cure for the coronavirus thingy, you watch and see if the damned government doesn't conclude that for the good of all of us we must be forced to accept vaccinations with an experimental coronavirus shot. In other words, the Fedgov is about to test the waters once again to see if we the people will allow our own damn government to actually own our bodies.

Salute!

The right to "refuse medical treatment" still exists.  Mandatory vaccinations still mean "medical treatment".  I don't know how states that make vaccination compulsory get round this.  People DO "own their bodies", that is in the constitution.

"Coronavirus" is a lot of hype, the overreaction is designed to get people to panic and accept all sorts of ridiculous draconian measures.  Look at the figures for "swine 'flu'" in 2009/10.  It wasn't hyped so much because Obama was president and no one wanted to criticise anything he did (or did not do), but ….

Before that there was the "bird 'flu'" (no panic buying of toilet paper with this one either ….. though "toilet paper" - I really don't know why toilet paper and not - say - bread.

People today seem to be in a constant state of panic:  "Coronavirus", "global warming", "help!  The sky is falling", people do not seem to think.

 95 
 on: March 15, 2020, 04:55:12 pm 
Started by FDD - Last post by casca-503
hey, MI,   those   of   us   with    a   functioning    brain    already    have    the    mmo   etc.    plus    food   &   T.P.   for     40    plus    days.....   /    not   a   MORMON,   but   like   to   be   prepaired....     ///    best    to   you,    brothers    &   sisters

 96 
 on: March 15, 2020, 04:14:45 pm 
Started by FDD - Last post by mi6a2lm
water ... food ... guns - ok.  ... but freakin' toilet paper?! 

Intro to Dawn of the Dead [2004]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y26TQKczaaY  [2:28]


 97 
 on: March 14, 2020, 09:59:45 pm 
Started by FDD - Last post by Elias Alias
All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.

no hate speech, 1st amendment

all gun laws, 2nd amendment

all asset forfeiture, 4th amendment     

just to name a few

Correct.

So it established judicial review, but it's not being applied.  This is all fine in theory but it's not being done.
Also correct.

And I agree on all counts. Today's government is so far off base that an underhand softball lob could easily throw it out with time to spare.  Example -- I looked at Article One, Section Eight to see where I might find the enumerated power, authority, and duty for the Federal government to involve itself in the education of children within the several States in the compact. Conclusion I've drawn so far is that there is no such authorization, enumerated power, or duty for Fedgov to tamper in the education of our children. The damned government was not created to do that, nor to do a zillion other things it's obsessed with doing.

A good question would be for anyone to come up with any perceived authority, enumerated power, and/or duty for the Federal government to own our bodies.  With this bullshit Trump is starting about a medical martial law type of cure for the coronavirus thingy, you watch and see if the damned government doesn't conclude that for the good of all of us we must be forced to accept vaccinations with an experimental coronavirus shot. In other words, the Fedgov is about to test the waters once again to see if we the people will allow our own damn government to actually own our bodies.

Salute!

 98 
 on: March 14, 2020, 07:30:48 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by Elias Alias
Wow, it's still on.  At last a logical response to this ridiculous "lockdown" (gee I thought "lockdown" was a PRISON TERM, now I'm hearing of schools and kindergartens being on "lockdown", have we all become a society of prisoners?

mouse, the term "lock-down" is more than just a prison term. It's a "government term".
What we're seeing is the governments around the world pushing to impose their "authority" upon the free choices and will of the people they govern.
What I am considering is that as Ron Paul has been saying for many years the ponzi scheme of the Fed's printing fiat currency for the government. loaning it to the government at interest which the tax payers are forced to pay, is fast starting to decompose into total financial failure on a global basis (global because the US economy has tentacles into almost every corner of the world).
As I have been saying for so long, every government on the membership roster of the United Nations (UN) is now a tool of the globalizing socialist bankers who created the UN. Worse, the UN can, and does, exert influence upon the national and domestic policies of all member nations. The bottom line effect of *that* is that all countries which operate Intelligence community agencies and departments are at the disposal of the UN. All those countries' military forces are now assets of the UN. All those countries' cultural and societal institutions, including their financial implements and economic policies, are tools for the UN. Of course there is more to it than I've just listed as examples, but in understanding just that much about how things work it becomes clear to me just what is taking advantage of the miraculously-appearing-out-of-nowhere coronavirus spectacle.
Once our own national government decides to mandate all State and local governments to execute a "lock-down", the power of the government is reinforced to the point that we the people will be facing forced vaccinations or be dealt with harshly, inlcuding being shot as an enemy of everyone else.
Again, I say that our government is not authorized to own our bodies. Our government officials know that very well, but have been forever trying to find some way to have that much ownership over us. As the international monetary crisis and economic failure are about to throw our civilizatoin back into the Stone Age, the NWO will use our own police and military against anyone who dissents or refuses to be vaccinated. To make that seem or appear to be morally justified, governments are shutting down schools and many other edifices in our societal structure and the media is programming the masses to comply.
And what is the psychological manipulation tool being used by government to herd the people into compliance? Long answer short, it's "Fear's Thought System".
People everywhere are freaking out. Trump is now contemplating banning domestic travel.  What I'm seeing is a massive "lock-down" on all our daily routine activities. In a word, I see it as "Tyranny" and it's coming straight at western civilization like a run-away freight train.
What the French are seeing in their streets is prelude to what Americans are going to see very shortly, unless I miss my guess.  "Comply with our lock-down, or we'll put you in "lock-up". And of course, they'll use tax dollars to lock-up anyone who violates the "lock-down". As our friend Kostas says, "Oh they're billing me for killing me."
Salute!
Elias

 99 
 on: March 14, 2020, 07:12:15 pm 
Started by mouse - Last post by mouse
This is unreal, this freak will use anything to further his communist agenda.

https://www.rt.com/usa/483147-de-blasio-coronavirus-death-nationalization/

New York City Mayor and failed presidential candidate Bill de Blasio jumped on MSNBC to compare the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic to war and claim “nationalization” would fix the US’ “Mar-a-Lago attitude” toward the disease.
“Here’s the reality, this is a war-like situation,” De Blasio told MSNBC’s Joy Reid on Saturday morning when criticizing the federal government’s response to the coronavirus. The mayor claims he has been “pleading for weeks” for coronavirus test kits to be more available to citizens.
“We’re in a war-time scenario with a Mar-a-Lago attitude being used by the federal government,” he continued.
De Blasio’s answer to the “laid-back” attitude of the government? More government.
“This is a case for a nationalization, literally … for crucial factories and industries that could produce the medical supplies to prepare this country for what we need,” he said.

snip

 100 
 on: March 14, 2020, 07:11:23 pm 
Started by FDD - Last post by casca-503
most   stores   with-in   25    miles   have   no   toilet    paper....hand   sinatizer....paper   towels....bread....milk....fresh   fruit....canned   veggies....erc....   /   must   be   a    3   or   4 "    snow   storm   coming.....   /    that's    how    it    usually    happens    with   the    un-prepared    ostriches....///    sad    little    snow    flakes...

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