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Well gee duncan you yourself keep whining about how the good ol' boy society there runs things and it goes right to the top.
If that doesn't mean the judges all the way to the Wyo. SC then I don't know what it means.
The terms and conditions of slander and libel are determined by the court.
The court is one of your constant targets.
If they can't hurt you they may attack those who host you.

I got news man, your Quixotic ranting isn't going to help anyone, in fact it potentially opens up huge cans of shit for those around you but since you have a personal ax to grind and tolerate no dissent you make it obvious you don't care who gets hurt so long as you get to shoot off your mouth.

Brings to mind a saying about hacking at branches, look it up.

[Duncan]

If you are not interested in this topic then why read about it and then bother to make comments that are unrelated to the topic?

Personal axe to grind? I already stated that I never met any of these people and that I don't even live in Cheyenne. I think that you have an axe to grind with me over your FSW program. This topic isn't about me or you or the FSW project. It's about a man who was murdered in Cheyenne for having long hair and the local corrupt officials behind it all. If you live in Wyoming then you might be interested in what goes on within the City were the state's capitol resides. Even if you don't live in Wyoming I sure that many folks would find this case to be very intersting especially if like me they are anarchist, as this story only proves the worthlessness of copscum and the fact the state protect no one but itself or those who serve the state rahter than the people.

How is the re- posting of personal info about a guy who is running for political office in which he alreayd ready posted his own personal info on another website a problem? Your the one with a personal problem and I have not violated the rules of this forum and so the question is why are you the one doing all the whining? Why are you the one who is off topic?

For those of you who have never been to Cheyenne I will post some back ground info for you. I call Cheyenne the "Trailer Park Capitol of the Nation" this town of 50K has more trailer parks and bars per capita than another city its same size in the entire USSA. The largest employer in Cheyenne is the Fed and many locals work at the Air Force base which is a control station for missle silos located throughout SE WY, NE CO, & SW NE. We have our very own missile silo just five miles east of Carpenter, WY and it makes me feel so safe and warm knowing that I have a nuke to protect me from those hateful arab terrorists. BLM also has a main office located on Yellowstone ave. .

The second largest employer would be the state of Wyoming and none of the groups mention run the local government. The city is run mostly by the decendants of cattle puke land barons and homesteaders. The best way to describe this lot would be to simply call them assholes. because they act like assholes and they treat others like shit if others aren't from Cheyenne. You could be from Burns or Carpenter or Pine Bluffs which are all towns just a few miles away from Cheyenne and it would make little difference to the 'assholes' of Cheyenne becuase they hate everyone who isn't from Cheyenne, but they do love your money.

There a two classes of soceity in Cheyenne those who work for the state and those who don't. The ones who don't usually work in the service sector to serve the ones who do and the ones who do work for the state are in the majority of the population. In Cheyenne you will never see any kind of serious political activism the LP is for the most part non-existent in the entire county. If I feel a need to be with fellow anarchists then I have to go to Ft. Collins to find me one.

The pay in Cheyenne sucks and thus the reaosn for so many trialer parks. The rest of Wyoming pretty much hates Cheyenne and wish it would fall off the face of the planet. They nearly had a range war oncew over were the capitol city should go. Should it go to Casper or Cheyenne and like what's the difference as both towns are made up of assholes? The Cheyenne 'assholes' won out. Cheyenne started off as railroad town a place to pick up cattle and then deliver them to Chicago. The first white boys in the area were the French fur trappers and then came the Amerikan fur trappers and then came what were called the "Cattle Barons' a group of 'assholes' who thought that everything in the area was thier to steal and do with as they please. If you ever saw that movie with Steve McQeen about Tom Horn it was all true the 'assholes' left the guy out to dry and used him. This sort of mind think still exists in Cheyenne and the 'asshole' legacy of the Cheyenne Cattlemans Association lives on.

Cheyenne is a dirty looking town and when you drive around the city you think to your self "Who was the 'asshole' that designed these city streets. There ain't a street in town that goes striaght for more than a mile or two. To get from the north end of town to the south end you have to go around the Air National Guard Base and who was the 'asshole' that put a air strip right smack dab in the middle of town? You learn that things in Cheyenne are never done based on what is best for society things are done on what
is best for the 'assholes' if 'asshole' #1 needs money then he goes to his buddy "asshole" #2 who works for the City and gets
"asshole" #2 to buy his land at over infalted prices and then "asshole" #2 gets "asshole" #3 who works for the Fed to fund a major project like a airport right smack dab in the middle of town were the land is located that asshole #1 sold to asshole #2. It works like this in alot of places not just Cheyenne but in Cheyenne they are more careless about it and really don't give a shit what people think. In most places you can get the public to influence the public officlas but not in Cheyenne and this is what sets Cheyenne apart from other cities.

[Not a TMM member]

First no, it's not my FSP.  I'm not involved in any of that.
I kept a loose watch on it but no, I never joined nor had any real interest in it.

Second, nope not a Libertarian either.  I have no political affiliation whatever anymore.
You do enjoy a good negative rant don't you?
Do you find it contradictory that you said in your last post Sells got killed over long hair yet in a previous post you said it had nothing to do with his hair?

It really had nothing to do with Dwayne's long hair.

Which is it?

[Duncan]

"You do enjoy a good negative rant don't you?'

Ever been to Cheyenne? Negative or rather a realistic point of view? Do you see anything postive in killing a guy over the length of his hair?

"Do you find it contradictory that you said in your last post Sells got killed over long hair yet in a previous post you said it had nothing to do with his hair?"

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It really had nothing to do with Dwayne's long hair.

"Which is it?'

I haven't finished my so-called rant. I posted that this a rather involved story. You took a quote from a post that is well over a year old and I re-posted it here to give the reader some back ground info about this case as most of the people on this forum don't even live in Wyoming much less Cheyenne and no one here seems to know anyhting about this case.

I met Mandy Benedict thru the Cycle World website discussion forum and later we met in person at the Eagles Nest bar were Dwayne use to work part time on the weekends. Mandy brought her husband along and he had some what of a close resemblience to Dwayne. He is tall and thin like Dwayne and has long blonde hair which is shoulder length much like Dwayne's. I had an intial theory that because Don and Steve Nath hated Mandy so much and had a few run ins with her husband at the Cowboy and the Outlaw that when Dwayne walked in the bar the first thing they may have thought of was Mandy's husband. Keep in mind Steve Nath was having a bacheolor party, Mandy is his ex-wife, all of the participants of the party were all drunk, the lighting was dim and it was 1:30am. It was conjecture at the time and I still think that it might have been a small part of the real reason Sells was murdered thatr night. I have since discovered more aobut the people who murdered Sells and why. The reasons are more involved than a guy getting killed for having long hair.

Now get off of my back and stop being a control freak so that can continue with the why.

There is a reason why the many inhabititants of Cheyenne are 'assholes' it has alot to do with the history and enviroment of the area. White people began to settle in the area in mass around the 1860's with the advent of the Fed's "Homestead Act" and the free land that went with it and many of them left as they simply couldn't make a go of it. Another wave of people would arrive to the area from the 1890's thru the 1910's and once agian many of these people were forced to leave due to the extreme enivormental conditions. It was a hard life that made people hard towards others. People looked out for number one because looking out for others besides your immediate family would deplete hard to come buy resources and you could suffer greatly as a result. Slikering another guy out of his money was way of life for many people and the only way they knew how to survive.

As a kid growing up in the area in the 1960's I had noticed that a favorite past time of the locals in the Cheyenne area was fist fighting. Back then the copster never did arrest people they would just act as referees if someone used a weapon then thye would arrest soemone but otherwise they would just let the drunks fight it out until thye were both to tired to fight any more. Larimer and Weld counties, both located in Coloroado and along the WY/CO border, were both dry counties in the 1960's so if a guy wnated to hit the bar scene he or she would have to go to Cheyenne. Cheyenne was a party town and people loved to bar brawl. It was a mahco thing i.e who was the biggest, baddest bronc riding motherfucker around? And many men vied for the title of being the baddest guy around town. My own father was a cowboy who rode in the Frontier Days like his dad had done, only the difference was that my father rode Bulls. Why would anyone ride a Brahama Bull unless they had something to prove? Men rode Broncs for the sole purpose of breaking them and then making them into working stock. Riding a Bull has no redeeming value what so ever other than to prove that you are the baddest motherfucker around.

The point of all of this is to show and explain the why. Jay Payne the punk who intiated the fight with Sells cottoned himself as being a badass or the baddest motherfucker around. He wasn't and he he still isn't shit. This coward ran away from his crime of murder and was last seen hiding out in Florida with his butt buddy Josh Cooper. No real cowboy would have continued to kicked a man to death after he had gone down. Only a coward would have called on four of his punk friends to help him kick a man to death. This is the MO of Ed Hunt, Jay Payne, Josh Cooper, Don Nath and Steve Nath. These are all punks who don't have the balls to fight a man one on one. This also the trait of a bouncer who has been coached by the local copscum on how to start a fight and make it look lie the other guy started it. ed Hunt is the lead bouncer of this bar and the people who helped him kill Sells were all aprt time bouncers whom Ed had all hired and coached. Jay payne was the protege of Ed Hunt. Hunt taguth payne everyhting he knows on how to be a coward. These fucks think that it is fuuny to kill man. They are laughing now along with thier copscum pals with the Cheyenne PD. Oh and did I forget to mention that fact that Jay Payne is related to Leo Pando the former mayor of Cheyenne who also happens to be a retired Cheyenne copster?

This isn't the first time these punks have all banded together to beat the crap out of someone, but it is the first time they killed an innocent man. It really had nothing with the length of Dwayne's hair, it had everything to do with the fact that Cheyenne is a city built on a culture of who can be the biggest asshole.

[Duncan]

http://www.cheyennecity.org/police.htm

CHEYENNE POLICE DEPARTMENT
2020 Capitol Avenue
Cheyenne, Wyoming 82001
(307) 637-6521

Robert D. Fecht, Chief of Police

"The Cheyenne Police Department is a progressive agency of 94 sworn officers and 31 civilians. The Police Department works to serve the community with many innovative programs, .... "

Sure they do.

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I first learned about what had happened to Sells whilst I was delivering the Riders For Justice news letter to the local H/D dealer in Cheyenne. As I was dropping off the RFJ newsletter an employee working the counter asked me if I heard about the biker who was killed at the bar across the street for having long hair? I had told him I hadn't and then he gave me a short version of what had happened. Intially I had found this story hard to believe and felt that the issue may have been a bit over exagerated and what had possibly happened was that Sells was drunk and started a fight and maybe the guy had it coming. I wrote the whole thing off until the first Cheyenne Herald story came out about the murder and at this point my ideas about what had happened that night took a 180 degree change.

I joined the local ABATE organization and started to ask questions about Sells from the people who knew him personally and to date I have never heard anyone say anything bad about the guy. Sells had no enemies, he never drank to excess, he never started any fights and he had no criminal history. Sells held down two jobs and he had a seven year old daughter, whom he took responsibility to care for. Sells was not only the president of the local ABATE chapter he was also the state rep for a national group call the Motorcycle Rights Federation, which lobby's federal polticians and he had just returned form D.C. were he had met with Barbara Cubin WY state Senator.

I also learned that Sells was a disabled Gulf War Veteran. He had picked up some kind of disease while he had served in Saudi Arabia which would later cuase him to have two strokes. I was told that he ended up at the dreaded Denver VA were he was given drugs that reduced him to a babbling idiot. A close freind had checked him out of the VA hospital and took him off the mind altering drugs after which he became his old self. Hopefully most of you click on the link to the jusitceforsells.com site and saw Dwayne's pic. Sells did not look like a guy who was 35 years of age hecould have passed for a 50 year old. The reason he was aging beyind his years was related to his strokes and the fact that he was on coumadin which is a blood thinnner used by heart patients to prevent strokes. With this in mind I was certain that he didn't start the fight becuase he knew what would happen to him if he ever became involed in any kind of violent altercation i.e. he would bleed to death.

I'm very familiar with the down side of using a blood thinner like coumadin as I am also on this drug.

I met the Sells family. Dwayne's dad Jack Sells is a retired firefighter and still works at the Air National Guard base as an officer who oversees security for the base. The guy is apart of the system and believed in it until his son was killed and the copscum worked to cover up his sons's murder. I met Shaun Sells Dwayne's brother who has a regular job, is a lay preacher at a local church with a wife and two little kids. I met Dwayne's mom and his little girl Ashlyn. These people are your typical normal american family who believed in the system and learned the hard way that it just doesn't work.

This entire family who all worked paid taxes and believed in the system has been damaged for life. Imagine telling a little seven year old girl that her daddy was killed in a bar room brawl and she will never see him agian. This is exactly what happened. I saw the little girl at a memorial ceremony for Dwayne that was held behind the VFW post on Nationway ave. in Cheyenne in which a small plaque was added to several other small plaques on a stone wall. Ashlyn was in tears before the ceremony had ended. I had a hard time getting thru it myself and i didn't even know the guy. Sells could have been me in that bar, he could have been you or your brother. Just remeber this when you are about to blow this issue off and ignore it.

I got a real fucking problem with it myself so excuse the fuck out of me if you think that I am to negative for your precious fucking website. I have always had little use for fence sitters as I see these people as apart of the problem.

[Duncan]

This is a re-post and the issue in question came out last August not this August.

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The lastest edition of the Herald is out, so please pick one up and read it. For those of you who don't live in Cheyenne here are few quotes from the Herald.

"The Sells family investigator went with the witness to the Cheyenne police department on August 2nd. When offered up to make a statment, the department said they already had his statement. When requested to produce such a statement, they could not." -Featherly

"The Sells investigator found the woman, a registered nurse, and also provided her to the police department to have a statement made. She (the RN) told the Sells investigator that she had called the department several times and they never responded to her messages." - Featherly

Wow the family was forced to hire their own PI as the Cheyenne PD was once agian found with their heads up their collective asses. Pay your taxes and rely on the syestem and what does it get you?

"(Laramie County Corner)Bill Ryan's crediblity has taken two serious hits in the past year. The Cheyenne Herald has reported on his activity of stopping feamle drivers by using the emergency lights on his offical corner's vehicle." -Featherly

Ryan has called for a corners inquest to look into the death of Sells. Ryan is one of the good ole boys and I see a whitewash job coming out of his inquest. The woman mentioned in the news story sued Ryan over his illegal traffic stop of her in which he posed as a cop. The woman was later awarded a sum of money by the court. This case also went Hollywood and will be seen on a TV series called "The Law Firm" and even Hollywierd found that Ryan was in the wrong.

"The other issue the county corner has been criticized about by the Herald was a death certificate that he signed and the cause of death attested to by him was contradicted in an autopsy report performed on the deceased and paid for by the family." - Featherly

"One who is familiar with Bill Ryan told the Herald tended to ask "friends with the Kiwanis Club" to serve as jurors. When asked on Friday, August 12th, who the three jurors would be, Ryan did not respond." -Featherly

WOW!!!! We have a real can of worms here. This guy Ryan is a joke.

[Duncan]

I went to the guv's office personally and gave his office a copy of the Herald. The guv didn't care. I went to the state AG's office and Crank didn't care. The reason he didn't want to get involved is because one of his attorney's was at the bar that night and was a witness to the killing.

In Wyoming the AG is appointed by the guv which would explian why the guv didn't want to get involved or ask the AG to get involved by calling out the DCI and have them investigate this murder. Many of the DCI pukes are ex-Cheyenne copscum and they are all copscum.

Over a year ago myself, Brian Cox (an ABATE member now the Master at Arms) and Wendy Cima ( then prez of Cheyenne ABATE and now the Wyoming ABATE prez), all went to the local Sheriff Danny Glick and asked him to investigate the murder of Sells. He gave the issue lip service for fear that it might cost him the next election if he didn't at least make it appear that he was interested but in the end he did nothing as well.

I even went to a town meeting being held by Barbara Cubin, of course the bitch never showed because she is a do-nothing repukelican who only exist to fill a spot for her fellow repukelicans. I was told by her minions that she would do nothing for Sells either, even though she had known him to be a respected member of the community whom she had met with personally to discuss transportation issues.

And people wonder why I'm an anarchsit who wants to abolish the state. I always give these statist pricks a chance to prove me wrong, but they always prove that I am correct. The state serves no one but itself as it is run by self serving swine who care nothing about the people they supposedly serve. The ever worthless Cheyenne PD is now spying on me and trying real hard to set me up rather than go after the real criminals, but then these swine would have to go after themselves and admit to thier own complicity in this case.

I was recently nominated to the postion of Secretary for ABATE Cheyenne. Let us see what the copscum do with this one.

[Duncan]

Laramie County Civil case # 16717 Jack Sells v HEJE corp aka Susan Hein, Mitch Jedlicki & Don Nath

Jay Payne: "Reputation of hitting people with beer bottles. Previously removed from bar."

Josh Cooper: "Under age." Was busted for alcohol possesion found guilty of same and failed to pay the fine. A warrant was issued for his arrest on 11-12-04.

Susan Hein: "Stood by & watched the fight develop."

The bars history of violent behiavior on the part of the bouncers.

Nov., 2003 assault

Nov., 2003 stabbing

Nov., 2005 assault

Mitch Jedlicki - Four time convicted felon who hired the local copscum to work security at the bar for cash. The entire Cheyenne PD investigation team worked for the felon Mitch. These are the same people who pretended to investigate the murder of Sells and called his death an accident. Jedlicki's latest felony was the crime of check fraud in which he stiffed his former employees. He was convicted on 5/28/04 docket #27-963 and placed on probation. He failed his UI and his probation officer moved to revoke his probation and send him to prison. The judge refused and the DA supported his pal Mitch. Why? Because Mitch and Ed Hunt are both police informants for the local copscum.

I was at the Coroners inquest and when the phony coroners jury stated that Sells death was an accident the police Chief of Cheyenne Fecht went to the back of the room and gave his pal Ed Hunt a big hug and a high five right in front of the Sells family.

[Duncan]

http://www.kgwn.tv/home/headlines/1494192.html

Cheyenne Police Chief Got Degree from Diploma Mill
Cheyenne
Associated Press

The city of Cheyenne has paid for the city’s police chief to earn a masters degree from a suspected diploma mill.

Police Chief Bob Fecht got the degree from Lacrosse University in Mississippi.

The chief does not defend the school or the degrees it offers. He says he was interested in the coursework and the research.

Fecht says the research projects and studies he did all involve issues in Cheyenne and have helped him and the department serve the community.

Lacrosse is an online university that offers to give students college credit for life experiences. It has been mentioned in reports by the General Accounting Office as a suspected diploma mill.

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And so were is Fetch's thesis?

It usually take three years to acquire a masters degree and not just a check for $2,500. The University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado has a criminal justice program and he could have gone there it is only 50 miles away. the University of Wyoming in Laramie has a criminal justice program and they even have online courses. But due to his lack of character Fecht took the easy way, but then he is after all just another lazy copscum.



 

[Duncan]

I found this on the net. It is the lawsuit of KAREN ALLEN VS. BILL RYAN on the NBC program "The Law Firm" and the county coroner lost.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Law_Firm/cases/

"Karen was pulled over by Bill, who was using police lights and sirens, for a traffic violation. Later, she discovered that Bill is not a police officer but a county coroner with no police authority. She is suing for damages."

Karen won her case and Ryan lost.

http://www.nbc.com/The_Law_Firm/cas...statement.shtml

This is the hick Ryan's statement to the court. It should be noted that Ryan is an ex-copster from LA and not from Cheyenne. It is a crime to impersonate a police officer it is also a crime for Ryan to have red and blue flashing lights on his vehicle. The county comissioners ordered him to remove the lights.

Did you agree with the verdict? 83% Yes 17% No

And the people have decided that Ryan was wrong. Not much credibility here and this is just an example of the kind of hicks we all have to deal with in Laramie county.

[Duncan]

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2006/08/31/obituaries/10obit8-31-06.txt

William C. Ryan



 
 
1939-2006

William Carroll "Bill" Ryan, 66, of Cheyenne died Aug. 26 at his home.

He was born Oct. 12, 1939, in Cheyenne and had lived here most of his life.

Bill served in the Wyoming Air National Guard where he achieved the rank of senior master sergeant and was called to active duty during the Gulf War.

Bill attended the American College of Forensic Examiners, Wyoming Law Enforcement Academy Coroners Basic Training, Homeland Security Weapons of Mass Destruction courses, FBI Terrorism courses and achieved a Level 3 Homeland Security Certification. He served as the Laramie County Coroner for the last 16 years and was a Wyoming licensed embalmer and a funeral director for Wiederspahn-Radomsky Chapel Of The Chimes for over 40 years.

Bill was the past Grand Knight of Knights of Columbus Council 801, Past Faithful Navigator of Knights of Columbus Assembly 1223, past president of Cheyenne Kiwanis Club, and past Lt. Governor of Kiwanis Division 13. He was also a member of the Wyoming State Coroners Board, American Legion Post 6, and the Moose Lodge.

 
He is survived by his wife, Christine L. (Garcia) Ryan of Cheyenne, whom he married March 18, 1978, in Cheyenne; his father, Frederick L. "Fred" Ryan of Cheyenne; a son and daughter-in-law, Douglas K. and Kim Ryan of Northglenn, Colo.; two daughters and a son-in-law, Shannon M. Ryan of Cheyenne and Kerry C. "K.C." and Todd Jochim of Lakeside, Mont.; two sisters and brothers-in-law, Sherry and Gene Nelson of Cheyenne and Joyce and Howard Holmstrom of Arvada, Colo.; six grandchildren, Ryan, Noah, Haley, and Logan Jochim, all of Lakeside, and Taylor and Kennedy Ryan, both of Northglenn.

Bill was preceded in death by his mother, Maurine G. Ryan and a son, Timothy P. Ryan.

Vigil for the deceased will be 7 p.m. tonight Thursday at Holy Trinity Catholic Church with Bishop David L. Ricken officiating.

Funeral liturgy will be 1 p.m. Friday at St. Mary's Cathedral with Bishop Joseph Hart as the celebrant.

 
 
Casket bearers are Russ Zasadil, Tim George, Ron Kisicki, Lucky Burback, Marc Thayer, and Ron Sargent.

Honorary casket bearers are all of his friends.

Military honors will be provided by the Wyoming Air National Guard.

Cremation will follow at Cheyenne Memorial Gardens.

Services are under the direction of Wiederspahn-Radomsky Chapel Of The Chimes.

Friends may send contributions in his memory to the Hospice Davis Foundation or the Kiwanis Foundation.

This is a paid obituary.

One down and few dozen left to go.

[Duncan]

Every year at this time we bikers have what is called the annual "Nut Run", which occurs in Severance, Colorado at a place called "Bruce's". "Bruce's" is a local icon and noted for its Rocky Mountain Oysters.

Ed Hunt was seen by two members of Cheyenne ABATE to be stalking me while was in attendance.

[The big D]

The FBI was contacted and they didn't care. The Federal Grand Jury was contacted and they sent me to the FBI.

And yet another reason to abolish the state.

[The dunkman]

And yet another reason not to move to the STATE Wyoming.

[Moderator]

And yet another reason not to move to the STATE Wyoming.

I warned you not to try to insert yourself back in here after being banned, Duncan. I warned that if you did I'd systematically begin deleting your existing posts. I'll remove the most recent 10 posts by Duncan right now to show you I was serious. Come back once more and I'll delete everything you ever posted here.

If you truly think your opinions are so valuable, then you'll stay away and let them stand.