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[Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind.]

I also agree about the whole " I feel bad, please lower my sentence."
I also disagree with the "found Jesus in Jail" crap.  The number of people who "found Jesus" in Prison and actually stayed clean when they got out... whom I've actually known... I can count ON ONE HAND... and have fingers left over on the same hand to open the door when I get home from the investigation.


Question I ask is this.  DID YOU TURN YOURSELF IN?!  Did you do it right away or after the cops knocked on your door or after you spent all the money on booze and whores?  If you had to be caught, you only feel bad that you got caught, or you're faking it.  The real evil is a system that allows scumbags to get away, while destroying people who see the system itself as the evil it is.  Scumbags who get caught for dozens of crimes against non government people and non government property, get out in a year.  Guys who looked at a cop wrong... get shafted!!  So here I'm with RVM.

Where I kind of disagree its that when you commit evil for "the good of the people" its actually two options.  Either you're a TRUE BELIEVER, and you're on the same scale as every terrorist who suicide bombed a place... or you're a heinous bastard using the appearance of TRUE BELIEF to sucker all the gullible morons among the common plebes to assault and mob rule the one outstanding quality individual amongst them whom you, as a government official, would be most likely to target.

[RVM45]

It happens very seldom in real life….

In fact it has never happened to me…

But the "Friend" who grabs someone to prevent them from running back into a building building to make a doomed attempt to rescue a loved one…

Or who prevents one from running out into the street to confront 50 armed bikers…

Or whatever…

"Joe Blow, you prevented me from doing something very foolhardy and suicidal—I want to give you the reward you've earned…"

Then I sucker punch him and stomp him half to death.

Never interfere with a Reckless Disregard of Danger.

Don't get too worked up. I can barely walk. I'm unlikely to stomp anyone. I'm just talking just desserts.

But I feel that the fellow who restrained me from running into a Burning Building affronts me far more than a fellow who uses the same restraint to allow his fellow gang members to beat me.

But I'm not full of warm fuzzier for the other fellow either.


…..RVM45

[Adventurer, Explorer, Inquiring Mind.]

Don't feel bad, RVM.  I like you in some ways (as much as you can like anyone you've never met and with whom you've never tilted back a brewski or shot a few rounds...)  However, don't feel bad.  I wouldn't stop you from entering a burning building.  I'm past my "saving folks" stage.  These days I just shrug and let things take their course.  Your faith, your God, your life, your soul... you decide what to do with 'em.  I'll tell you its probably a bad idea, but do what you please.

I'm past the "saving other folks" or "white knight" stage.  In fact, at this stage, having taken some bad advice and moved to the wrong place... I'm trying to save myself.  I succeed that I'll be a happy camper the rest of my life.

[Rarick]

Yep. Motivation for a crime is between you and your god. Aggression against person or property is crime. You may be compelled to make your victim whole. If that isn't possible, there's room for disagreement on how to handle it. I think murderers should become the property of the dead guy's survivors, to do with as they will.

Legitimate, I do not necessarily like the revenge factor....it is a bit of the darkside, but it is close enough to my concept of justice to work.

As far as the True Believer, Exploiter, and Cloaked by Authoritay versions of evil?  I am unlikely to worry much about any of them having any additional chances or converting them if they are an aggressor on me.  There are a lot of circumstantial modifiers on that of course, but I will not be a passive victim.