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teotwawki

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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2007, 10:24:48 am »

I guess for argument's sake we're talking about a state with extremely low population, a large number of preppers both outright survivalists and LDS (you prep if you're a Mormon :) ), large farming communities, some of the best gun laws in the country.  If there are a couple of people in larger "metro areas" (hilarious metro in ID is 20k+ population) that want to sip lattes and wear funny shoes (hey I've been known to wear Keens whilst fishing) and wax melodramatic about global climate change thats fine.

You can still get a nice home with 40+ acres near services for less than a 10'x10' shack on a postage stamp in just about any state.  Works for me.  Dunno if I care to see neo-nazis marching down the street to their white power churches - but you have to take the bad with the good.  As long as they leave me and mine alone they can do whatever they want to.

There may well be "white supremacists" in the area, bucctoo - I really don't know for sure, although I've heard the media claim that before. (Randy Weaver, for example, although iirc he was a white separatist.)  But a lot of retired yuppies have been moving into the area, especially in and around Sandpoint itself, and it seemed to be getting very PC when I was there last summer.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2007, 12:10:14 pm »

As a transplanted freedom-loving granola from the People's Republic of California (this is a rare beast, I assure you), I've had a few cultural adjustments to make.  In my 7 years as an Idahoan, I've also put a significant amount of time, energy, emotion and money into fighting against the Californication of Idaho.  A few observations from my perspective:

* percentage of religious people is very high, but no one flavor dominates
* property rights are respected, but clean air isn't considered a property right
     (we still have government usurping our right to make legal claims against polluters)
* gardening and preserving food is a lot more popular, but not as common as should be
*  food storage beyond this week, even among the Mormons, is uncommon
* hunting and fishing are very popular, but meat harvested thusly costs $50/pound
* gun ownership is pervasive, knowledge and skills practice are not
* 70% of the land is "owned" by the government ...
     or, legally owned by nobody and available to squatters/homesteaders post SHTF
* 22% of the land is in agriculture ... 
     horizon-to-horizon wheat, beef, etc. warm my heart and soothe my tummy
* except in the Boise valley, traffic and population are comfortably disbursed
* infernal-combustion, motorized toys are different, but very common
* organic food is rare
* joggers and bicyclists are rare
* aversion to sugar and its many substitutes is rare
* pop (soda) and beer are commonly considered to complete one's liquid requirements

I fit fine, but keep many of my differences to myself.  I fit a whole lot better here than in the socialist paradise I left. The differences are not chewing me up from the inside-out and threatening my health and survival.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2007, 02:50:18 am »

Slide,

Seeing as how the best parts of Wyoming and Montana have been yuppified, and land prices relect this, I was kinda looking at Idaho as a place to run to. The only parts of it I have seen are the spud fields to the southeast, on my way to SW Montana in 1996--which I loved but not sure I could afford to live there anymore. Plus, it gets fricking COLD up there. I've been in AZ too long I guess, but I also understand that I need to SOON be in an area where there is water and there is no invasion of Mexicans. Skinhead neo nazis? Their philosophy is fucked but they are some ready motherfuckers. Pardon my English.

I'm beginnning to realize that I don't have the funds to buy a retreat, no matter how much I would like to. I'm beginning to think that selling the house, getting an RV and being mobile is the way to go. If the SHTF, I could settle anywhere and not waste a whole lot of money on a piece of property, only to find somebody is already there using my stashed goods. If I can't go now and get settled in some nice small town (Thermopolis,WY comes to mind), then being mobile  and finding that place is a good thing. Adaptability is the key to survival. I think mobility gives you a greater chance of adapting, but that's just my opinion.\

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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2007, 12:22:01 pm »

A lot of folks get their comfort from being ready to hit the road. I like roots. I like trees, particularly fruit trees. I like vegetables in the garden, pantry and freezer. I like soil dark with carbon-life, deep, teeming with worms and rotting organic matter. I like a shop jammed with tools, hardware, scraps, that can build and repair darn near anything made with wood and metal.  I like neighbors who are friendly, sharing and mutually trusting.

I can't imagine the rooted ones welcoming gypsies, tramps, hoboes, vagrants, road warriors and whatever manner of Oakies may show up thinking this lightly-populated spot is just right to set up a new migrant camp. "You jus' moove on, stranger".

I have a theory that easy weather attracts easy living. That a little snow and wearing jackets in the winter weeds out the sandal-clad socialists. I know it has a million holes in it, but the weather here is comfortable for me.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 04:19:02 am »

Have yall heard that Gem County Idaho is the new focus for the Christian Exodus movement? 
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2008, 05:00:54 am »

I welcome them and any other minority that wants to make liberty in this region a majority opinion.  I doubt their particular flavor of government dominance will ever threaten me, but suspect the principle of "any enemy of my enemy is my friend" will apply for purposes of the rest of my life.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2008, 10:14:40 am »

I'm doing some research currently and I may be very incorrect at this juncture - but it sure does seem like many of these groups believe in racial segregation.  IS Christian Exodus preaching separation based on race as well as religion?
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2008, 01:15:04 pm »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus -

"They advocate the repeal of the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments,
which abolished slavery, made former slaves citizens and gave them the
right to vote. Christian Exodus says 'We hold that it is the obligation
of the various States to nullify this Amendment and all laws and court
rulings arising from it.' "


Among many other things. See wiki.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2008, 07:29:26 pm »

OH.

I welcome the to move to California. They will fit in quite well with the great masses who haven't thought things through.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2008, 10:48:46 am »

This is from the website someone linked above:

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Racial and nationality discrimination:

ChristianExodus.org demands that all races be treated equally as children of God. All people originate from the same Creator and are therefore equal in His sight, and must be treated equally before the law. ChristianExodus.org will not tolerate any racial hatred or discrimination by its members. Additionally, once in South Carolina, ChristianExodus.org members will work to ensure equal access to and treatment before the law for all God's people irrespective of color or national origin.

This website is talking about South Carolina though.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2008, 01:22:51 am »

This is a hard one to follow up on....


The reason for the discontent of the kalifornians coming up north, for me, would be the fact that they want to change this area to be more like what they had in kalifornia, never fully relizing why they left....

it isn't the money, as some put it, although that didn't help, its the way thier minds work.
I'm not slamming anybody here...its just hard to understand if you don't think like those "here".  If you take offense, then most likely you are from there. Then maybe you can then look to your inner self, and think about why you took offense?

Not sure, I don't know.
In this little corner of the nation, we have an independance. Something in ourselves. Hard to understand maybe, or not. If you understand it, then arn't you not thinking like us already? And won't your coming then help, if not with just your presence, but your ideals, and not least of all, your voting power.

I could go on for hours with examples, but I won't. It would be fruitless.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2010, 02:34:48 am »

Well, I'm from California(for now), so please don't flame me for wanting to get out of here. My wife and I have family in Idaho and they have been trying to get us to move there. I've been starting to look around, but the majority of both our families are here. We're trying to get everyone together to make the move. Pool our resources, and become as self-sufficient as possible. We also have been looking into Oregon, Washington, Montana, and Nevada.

The plan within the family when SHTF at this point is to load up and head high up into the Northern Sierra Nevada. Already have the place picked out. My uncle used to own land up there and there are 2 old mines and a natural cave. It also has a creek nearby that runs except in the coldest of winters, all three locations are easily camoflaged and one is on the highest ground around making it easier to defend. My Dad is the only one of the men that has second thoughts on the plan. He's worried because it is likely that someone else already owns the house since my uncle built a VERY nice home on it. I say we approach with caution, see if it's occupied, and then make it clear that we are in a dire situation and that they have a choice to make. Are you with us or against us?

I was born into Kalifornia and my parents came when they were just kids. The state has treated the family well for about 6 decades, but I wonder if it's time to bail out.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2010, 06:19:29 am »

Budlover- put some more detaail on "CHOICE TO MAKE" you are sounding like a goblin.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2010, 08:05:46 am »

Budlover- put some more detaail on "CHOICE TO MAKE" you are sounding like a goblin.

For real...the phrase "used to own" means your uncle doesn't own it anymore.  He sold it to someone else that most likely lives in that very nice home you mentioned.

What makes you think you have the right to show up and threaten someone.  The fact that your uncle "used " to live there means absolutely nothing.  Your approach is VERY  goblinesque and begs the new land owner to choose the "against us" option...enforced by lead.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2010, 09:20:04 am »

Right now, the pan handle of Idaho has been going through a population EXPLOSION.

Its incredible how many folks have been moving into the area, and how many farms have gone under the bull dozer.

I will guarantee this, in the next couple of years, Idaho will be seeing some major changes in its laws, because of the kind and the amount of people that have moved into the area.

THEY AIN'T ALL NATIVE IDAHOANS.
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