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Shanks Mare

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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2010, 10:44:12 am »

Exactly, but still the large cities control the vote, and its these votes that have the capacity of making so many of us "outlaws", if you understand my meaning.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2010, 02:57:47 pm »

In Northern California there is a large population of honorable, independent, freedom-loving people. Splitting off to form the state of "Jefferson" was a dream many shared that optionally included parts of Nevada and Idaho. As soon as you get above the population centers of the SF bay area and Sacramento, the culture starts to shift to the same 1% that get it we have in other 'freedom-loving places'... as opposed to the .001% that you find south of the Sacramento-San Francisco line.

Lately, Northern California has developed bits of resistance to Big Brother that exceed other places - look at the marijuana situation for example. As the motion of the state becomes more obviously a swirling around the drain, more and more of them will move towards resistance to the totalitarian state. I wouldn't write off a severing from the south when things get really bad.

Within the state if this topic comes up, invariably the Santa Cruz mountain men throw their grappling hook onto Northern California ... quickly joined by the San Luis Obisbo area anti-statists.  Both of those lines include way too many politically powerful socialist population centers for me, but it's hard to begrudge any region liberty or the dream thereof.

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Once again I remind those with their fully prepared bug out bags, bug out vehicles and get outta Dodge plans: The people who thought to get out already have been preparing for the screaming, crying socialist hordes for quite a while. The fact that they got out already is proof that they saw this coming before you did and that they are well ahead of you in preparing for social upheaval. Defense has about an 8:1 advantage over the attackers.  I urge you to figure out a way to be welcome.  Spend some of your preparation time pondering that. It is far more important than anything in your bag.

A hint: sooner is better than later
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2010, 03:31:25 pm »

I was refering to the situation in which we bring considerable advantages to the current land-owner. When SHTF there will be three sides as I see it. Gov't. , good guys, and bad guys. When all this happens, it will be every man for himself. Property rights aren't going to mean too much unless there is sufficient firepower to protect it. I'm all for helping others, but don't stand in my way when I'm providing for my family.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2010, 04:35:52 pm »

I was refering to the situation in which we bring considerable advantages to the current land-owner. When SHTF there will be three sides as I see it. Gov't. , good guys, and bad guys. When all this happens, it will be every man for himself. Property rights aren't going to mean too much unless there is sufficient firepower to protect it. I'm all for helping others, but don't stand in my way when I'm providing for my family.

ROFL...ya good luck with that.   Try coming my way and telling me my rights to my property don't mean squat.   Your "don't stand in my way" attitude puts you firmly in the bad guy camp,  what makes you think the current land owner wants or needs your help?  He is most likely to see you as an uninvited invader (and rightly so) who is threatening him and his family.

You need to rethink your approach to the situation and have your family pool their resources and BUY your own property.  Move there, build and supply your retreat.  Maybe make some friends with a few neighbors so you are one of the locals instead of a bunch of new folks nobody knows that threatens established people.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2010, 05:54:30 am »

# rounds later and the crows can dispose ogf the decomposing goblin corpses posted at the edge of my land.  Good bye.  You did a real fine job providing for your familly...........
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2010, 12:46:37 pm »

I used to vacation in Idaho every year to visit friends, a buddy that married a native Idaho girl and moved there to make her happy.

My wife and I stopped visiting Idaho when it became clear that something “wrong” was happening.

I have removed Idaho off of my “go to” list to find land and hunker down, my main reason:

Every granola from California who plans on acting like a goblin will be “headed to idaho” because that is where all the “survivalists” are and they have food...

I did see Coeur DAlene and Sandpoint go from nice places to a lot of summer drug dealers moving in to supply the customers that moved into the area.

The idea that racial groups had any sway or even a large support base was always propaganda fantasy provided by the media helping SPLC make more money.

I guess Colorado is it unless I can find a place in Wyoming I like...
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2010, 03:47:52 pm »

I used to vacation in Idaho every year to visit friends, a buddy that married a native Idaho girl and moved there to make her happy.

My wife and I stopped visiting Idaho when it became clear that something “wrong” was happening.

I have removed Idaho off of my “go to” list to find land and hunker down, my main reason:

Every granola from California who plans on acting like a goblin will be “headed to idaho” because that is where all the “survivalists” are and they have food...

I did see Coeur DAlene and Sandpoint go from nice places to a lot of summer drug dealers moving in to supply the customers that moved into the area.

The idea that racial groups had any sway or even a large support base was always propaganda fantasy provided by the media helping SPLC make more money.

I guess Colorado is it unless I can find a place in Wyoming I like...
 
 
    Oh I don't know , there are some other places where folks aren't and aren't going , Mont and Wyo are likely to become much like Idaho has in the next twenty years. Personally I'm kind of looking towards those places where folks don't really seem to want to go , some of it farther south than I'd like but attractive pricewise and remote. Nobody want mountains without ski resorts it seems , nor do they care for desert or high desert.
 
   And few are going to the high latitudes it seems , which makes them attractive even with the weather limitations.

Nearly half of Texas [western half] is desert or desert-like with scrub brush and rattlesnakes.
AND ... none of that "freezes Hard for four months" [weather limitation] stuff although we could sure use the extra slow absorption water.
Water is available but you have to know where to look or you won't find it.
A wind powered well will become the emblem of the Freeman's Holding in the future is my guess.
[for the water and the electric power]
Surprisingly most Texans don't collect rainwater. [This still amazes me after 25 years here.]

However, [this is for budlover13] there is NO Public Land. Every square foot is owned by someone.
The State only owns the State Parks and the freeway right-of-ways.  And Fedgov ? not a scrap. the national parks on Texas land still belong to Texas is my understanding.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2010, 08:20:09 pm »

Not all of the white separatists have left, they have just gotten quieter. Its been a hard lesson learned.
There are still a few loud-mouths around too, causing trouble. Don't think they can help themselves. 
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2010, 07:43:01 am »

I used to vacation in Idaho every year to visit friends, a buddy that married a native Idaho girl and moved there to make her happy.

My wife and I stopped visiting Idaho when it became clear that something “wrong” was happening.

I have removed Idaho off of my “go to” list to find land and hunker down, my main reason:

Every granola from California who plans on acting like a goblin will be “headed to idaho” because that is where all the “survivalists” are and they have food...

I did see Coeur DAlene and Sandpoint go from nice places to a lot of summer drug dealers moving in to supply the customers that moved into the area.

The idea that racial groups had any sway or even a large support base was always propaganda fantasy provided by the media helping SPLC make more money.

I guess Colorado is it unless I can find a place in Wyoming I like...

 
 
    Oh I don't know , there are some other places where folks aren't and aren't going , Mont and Wyo are likely to become much like Idaho has in the next twenty years. Personally I'm kind of looking towards those places where folks don't really seem to want to go , some of it farther south than I'd like but attractive pricewise and remote. Nobody want mountains without ski resorts it seems , nor do they care for desert or high desert.
 
   And few are going to the high latitudes it seems , which makes them attractive even with the weather limitations.

General winter will do some of the Horde management for you in a lot of the northern latitudes. The south is problematic even now given the border situation- and that will not go away when the slippery finally hits the slide..........
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2010, 10:28:03 pm »

From West Texas me-self BG.....like said, can't go home. I think if I went back, I'd have to dig an underground home. Couldn't take the heat anymore, its been a long long time.
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2011, 10:12:00 am »

Budlover is indeed very instructive.

I moved to my "gulch" here in the central Appalachian mountains in 1988.   One of my neighbors here was a kid being raised by his grandparents when I came.  Now he is permanently underemployed long-haired snuff dipping beer drinking falling-apart Chevy 4WD driving self-identified hunter and woodsman.

The first time I caught him hunting deer on my property, probably twelve years ago, he responded to my explanation of the concept of property rights by saying that he had been hunting here "since before I ever  came into this country"

I think I have since finally trained him to his full potential, so now he faithfully calls me before he hunts here, alas not to ask permission which I believe is beyond his ability,  but at least he calls me, and when he kills an obviously illegal deer he will often donate it it my family.

I tell this story to illustrate that many people are too deeply diseducated by ubiquitous and pervasive communist rhetoric about underprivilege and "equality", and/or simply too stupid, to ever appreciate the libertarian concepts of property and courtesy.

I hate Yuppies as much as anyone, but I acknowledge in that feeling in my own mind, more than a trace of the hatred of the rich that Marx and his running-dogs inculcate.   

There is, of course, no doubt that my young neighbor will, if TSHTF, become a goblin, and earn their rightful fate, 'though at the moment we maintain happy good relations with his extended family.


Here is another uncomfortable parallel.  In the late nineteenth  and early 20th centuries, Zionist Jews bought a lot of land in the area now Israel, from largely absentee Arab landlords.   

When over the next fifty or more years, Jews fulfilled the dream of these early Zionists and occupied the land, the Arab tenants were displaced.   I do not claim that this process accounts for all of the change in population of the area of Israel over the last hundred years, but it does describe a major portion of the transition from historically Arab Palestine, to Jewish Israel.

A lot of the contemporary Palestinian clamor to recapture their "homeland", is the same as Budlover's plan to reclaim that place in Idaho that his granddad SOLD.

IT USED TO BE MINE!
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Re: Your own private Idaho
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2011, 07:22:41 pm »

But if you read the "history" in the lands the palestinian people, the Jews were there centuries before...  :D 

I agree....as a special forces friend of mine says....be prepared to kill him, it might come to that, or as another says;

"Diplomacy is the art of saying NICE DOGGY, Until you can find a huge rock to crush his skull with"
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