Hell of a first post, nuffsaid.
Yeah, I was going to let you guys fluff yourselves on this one, but that remark shows lack of integrity or lack of insight on your part. And that's because I'm not the asshole who wishes ill on others following in his wake. I'm paying it forward by warning other young, skilled professional types from small town Wyoming. Don't get me wrong. ITS GORGEOUS. But unless you bring huge money bags... and your own woman, the love affair ends quickly when you realize the only thing you get IS scenery (and that's if you hit Wind River, Cody, Sheridan, Buffalo or the Black Hills areas, and those places are gorgeous... they really are.)
First of all:
nuffsaid is an existing member here who didn't have the guts to insult me using their regular account. That fact alone should be obvious to someone who doesn't lose a chess match before the seventh move. Must be someone who adapted to the political and attitude climate in small town Wyoming. Since some will need it spelled out, and so Ghost doesn't have to waste time on his keyboard explaining it, since I suspect he would, lets say that climate is known as: smile to your face, stab you in the back and trash talk you while you bleed. Not unheard of.If you're not the type who reads well or fast, here's the gist of it:
I warned a few newcomers I spoke to, back in the day about the issues, and they later mentioned running into those same issues in even bigger towns and then promptly moved out of state. At least one of those fellows that fit the above description was a very awesome guy who used to post here, in fact. This is why I do this. So that those who will benefit from it, will be saved from buying in and being locked in until they can sell things or save up enough to make another move and leave the land and house under whoever's stewardship, while they go job and house hunting out of state. (Remember that the driving distances out here are not insignificant, especially at three bucks a gallon.)I've been talking to the youngins in town lately, who aren't nearly as antisocial and steaming hostile. Asked if they'd stay in town once they graduated. With the exception of a few politically connected family offspring who after half a decade still wouldn't give me the time of day, TO A ONE they all told me "if I had a good job, I would stay, otherwise, no." The local older folks tell me flat out, that they LOVE the peace and quiet, but they think young people have a very difficult time and are also very often targeted by the cops for a quick cash citation. Reading the blotter one notices exactly that. Each week.
Those of you on here, lurking or reading, should pay attention to this, since as a newcomer, you will be lower on that food chain than most. You may run into good people, as I did, but they are rarely in a position to help you in any significant way.
So before you +1 someone whom you know is not a newcomer to the forum, for regurgitating what Mama Liberty often said, think it through.
I've been doing a lot of research before my next move. None of the FSW folk researched the crap side of small towns, when they declared Wyoming a good place to live where "any swinging dick with a hammer can find a job" while the young ones, like me, were so enamored by coming to a gun friendly state and being surrounded by our fellow gun nuts, that the honey moon lasted about as long as it took to notice the bank accounts dwindling, and the financial (and thriving) potential of the area being less than what was advertised ("a job" doesn't mean "a good living.")
All the youngins who moved based on those claims, have left for those Californicated states that have good jobs or business opportunities and less screwy town politics. They learned, as I did, that the bullshit is the same, throughout America, and most of the world. So if you're going to deal with bullshit, at least be well paid for it, and live in a place where you can spend that money and have stuff to do and someone with whom you can do it.
For the young single male, there's a second catch. Any eligible attractive female, will generally hold out for the rich well to do boys. And they have their pick, its a sellers market. The only time that might change is if you hit a college town, and then, its iffy on quality, but much better odds.
As for your magical millions of people who abandoned all and moved, I don't recall anyone making comments to bolster your remarks, having moved somewhere completely abandoning what they have, and going broke at mid life in a shit economy where even oil guys in Alaska are getting laid off. The people who abandoned everything and succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, are hearsay, they're like the freedom fighting Americans who wanted freedom. Or maybe George Soros and Warren Buffett. Do you even know anyone like that? As far as the average living human is concerned, such people exist, but in our proximity, they do not exist. A few people were like that, but much like my family, they were rarities who got lucky in moving that way. They did the same when they came to the states but they moved in a peak economy with a peak real estate and construction market, (not that they knew it) and even THEY, being adventurous, intelligent, extremely well educated and brought a nest egg with them, still had a lot of trouble getting things established. And they moved to a pretty progressive area (progressive meaning forward thinking, high tech and accepting of newcomers) and still ran into a lot of that bureaucracy mixed with petty provincialism. I'm pretty sure the majority of third and second worlders who moved to mainland US during the great depression didn't thrive until after the war ended. So your argument is moot, or just plain ignorant of real world realities. Taking huge gambles hasn't ever paid off for me. I'm in the process of working to stack the deck in my favor before I ever move again. When it comes to "dumping it all and moving," I'm the guy who already made the incredible mistake of moving to Wyoming and gambling a few good years of healthy life on it. It was a gamble... and like any "gambles" of mine... I'm donating money to the house. My thing is gambits. Has been, always will be.
Then again, I'm not asking for sympathy, since that would be pandering to Silver's sycophants. I'm whining, bitching and expounding so that the next young suckers thinking to make a move to Wyoming and buying in after a few months of visiting, they'll think about it a few more months, throw their stuff in storage, experience a few more years, then move elsewhere and take everything out of storage when they get to a nicer locale. I'm using my dumb idea and my bad luck to stack the deck in favor of others who might chance upon it and benefit. Its called earning some good karma (which based on experience I really don't believe in) and maybe those dice will hit that necessary six someday when I need it. Judging by prior experience, I'll stick to sure things, since gambling and "taking chances" has seldom worked for me.
So if you, dear young reader, decide to move to Wyoming, and once you get there, decide to purchase a property or a house, and things magically start falling through, ITS NOT YOU. Do what I should have done. Take the hint, pack your stuff and head over the nearest state border. You'll thank me for it in the long run.Anyone for whom this advice is beneficial, feel free to text me to let me know. Feels good to know I helped save a few souls. While I normally charge strangers for beneficial work, the knowledge that I've saved someone from my personal version of screwy hell is all the reward I require for this deed.