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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2008, 10:01:27 am »


Too many people from Taxachusetts moved into NH long before you got there and property taxes are out of this world. The state has the monopoly the sale of booze.


I am "wicked" late on this topic, but I like NH.  I am originally a Masshole and moved up here for more freedom without even knowing of the FSP.  NH was probably picked becuase of the Primaries which puts the political spotlight on the state.  Not to mention there is a wide range of jobs to choose from, anything from farming to tech industries.  I have never been to Idaho so I am not sure, but I don't think you have that out there.  As for TSHTF, NH is far enough away from metro Boston to be safe, but close enough to trade routes to be able to get supplies, not to mention you can just hop into Canada real quick.  Yes, there are a lot of socialists who come up from MA, but with no income tax or sales tax, their hands are tied becuase their yuppy ville property taxes are going through the roof and putting limits to their big spending fast.  We just had Town Meetings here in a lot of the towns in my area and every big ticket item was voted down by the people.  I think NH is a small state, where it is easy for groups to keep the government in check, Gun rights groups have done very well up here and form a base for the FSP to grow off of.

As for Libertarians having political ADD, it is simply becuase we are wolves, not sheep.  The only times wolves are organized is around the kill, the rest of the time they are disorganized and fighting each other and screwing around.  Sheep are always following the shepard if you want that kind of organization, join the Democrat party.  Having an organized Libertarian group with no internal conflict is antithetical.  Look at all the organization around Dr. Pauls campaign, we didnt win, but it was great to see everyone put differences aside and work together.  Now that its over, there will be disorganization until us wolves can organize around another kill.  We are always nipping at the heels of government here, but shes a big healthy elk and it'll take a while to wear her down.
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2008, 12:17:07 pm »

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Now that its over, there will be disorganization until us wolves can organize around another kill.  We are always nipping at the heels of government here, but shes a big healthy elk and it'll take a while to wear her down.

Wolves eat by killing, thus there always has to be a kill.....once that big healthy elk is gone, and all the other herd animals eaten...... what will the next kill be?.......it's interesting to note that during times of hardship wolves will eat their own.....usually the old, the young and the weak...........and someday you'll be old and weak....and there'll always be hardship.....you might want to consider carrying a bottle of ketchup in your pocket........
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2008, 02:31:09 pm »

I don't want to see it legalized at all. I want to see it decriminalized.

That would be nice. I'd rather see it completely deregulated, with no mention whatsoever of any kind of hemp in any legislation.

And that goes for every other drug, pharmaceutical or not. Two quote Vin Suprynowicz, "This does not mean that 'Marijuana should be available by prescription.' It means that morphine sulfate should be available in five pound bags at the supermarket for a couple of bucks, like sugar... but probably in a different aisle, to avoid confusion." Not that there would be enough of a market for it to support that, but if a grocery store wanted to stock it, more power to them.
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2008, 09:19:32 pm »

Specialty stores could stock it.  Sort of like specialized hobby stores, golf stores, you know...
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2008, 12:43:47 pm »

Specialty stores could stock it.  Sort of like specialized hobby stores, golf stores, you know...
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I love it!

Gives the name 'Drug Store' a whole new ( and much more accurate) meaning! ^_^
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2008, 04:48:26 am »

I'm for Wyoming.
I know that more people have signed on to New Hampshire, more power to them.

If you are happy than how can it be wrong?

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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2008, 10:58:29 pm »

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Look at all the organization around Dr. Pauls campaign, we didnt win, but it was great to see everyone put differences aside and work together.

Some of us have not given up hope yet.  A lot of things could still happen.  McCain could easily screw up his chance.  Dr No is not out of the race yet.  He has picked up a lot of delegates here and there.  Seven from MN so far.  There are still the Huckabee supporters who pledged thier votes before he dropped out.  Huck has not (cannot?) transfered those votes. After the first round at national they are released.

It is a slim chance, but still a chance.
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2008, 01:27:06 am »


Too many people from Taxachusetts moved into NH long before you got there and property taxes are out of this world. The state has the monopoly the sale of booze.


I am "wicked" late on this topic, but I like NH.  I am originally a Masshole and moved up here for more freedom without even knowing of the FSP.  NH was probably picked becuase of the Primaries which puts the political spotlight on the state.  Not to mention there is a wide range of jobs to choose from, anything from farming to tech industries.  I have never been to Idaho so I am not sure, but I don't think you have that out there.  As for TSHTF, NH is far enough away from metro Boston to be safe, but close enough to trade routes to be able to get supplies, not to mention you can just hop into Canada real quick.  Yes, there are a lot of socialists who come up from MA, but with no income tax or sales tax, their hands are tied becuase their yuppy ville property taxes are going through the roof and putting limits to their big spending fast.  We just had Town Meetings here in a lot of the towns in my area and every big ticket item was voted down by the people.  I think NH is a small state, where it is easy for groups to keep the government in check, Gun rights groups have done very well up here and form a base for the FSP to grow off of.

As for Libertarians having political ADD, it is simply becuase we are wolves, not sheep.  The only times wolves are organized is around the kill, the rest of the time they are disorganized and fighting each other and screwing around.  Sheep are always following the shepard if you want that kind of organization, join the Democrat party.  Having an organized Libertarian group with no internal conflict is antithetical.  Look at all the organization around Dr. Pauls campaign, we didnt win, but it was great to see everyone put differences aside and work together.  Now that its over, there will be disorganization until us wolves can organize around another kill.  We are always nipping at the heels of government here, but shes a big healthy elk and it'll take a while to wear her down.

Micron Semiconductor to Potatoes (LotS of Mcdonald russets) as far as industry.  It also has elbow room.  I spent time back east when I was in the service and I was amazed at how sociallized the place was.  There was some Union, Fraternity, Paternity of other organization you had to belong to just to function day to day (that includes your neighborhood pecking circle).  I like it much better out here in the west.  Ron Paul has a following but us wolves and lions are wary of becoming too visible to the shepards. Those who still vote will make it known at voting time, or over "iron sights" when the time comes.
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2008, 06:22:32 am »

btw ... the Free State Project is still rolling. We have so many people moving that I don't meet but a 4th of them and may never see them ... too much is happening. :)
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2008, 04:40:45 pm »

Not an FSP member here, but I had to say something...

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The potential upside to the state run store is that it will be a leverage in gradually legalizing marijuana by promising to only sell it at the state store.

If that is the only way to legalize it, I'd rather keep it illegal.

I don't want to see it legalized at all. I want to see it decriminalized.

Many people still don't know the difference between the two.

Much as many don't know the difference between a republic and a democracy, and both for the same reason, public day prisons.
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Re: FSP Picked the Wrong State!
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2008, 12:46:36 pm »

Has anyone thought of Alaska? It's amazingly Free already... Maybe that's the problem, too free already? ;)

Or maybe it's the weather.  :laugh:
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« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2008, 09:49:46 pm »

Alaska would make a fine free state, anyone who would like to start a Alaska Free State movement may do so.
Really, you can't have too many free places.
I lived in South East Alaska for over a year and the weather wasn't too bad.
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« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2008, 10:22:47 am »

Wyoming would be my mother load. Ought 7.
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« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2008, 10:50:46 pm »

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anyone who would like to start a Alaska Free State movement may do so.

Who's to say there isn't one going already.......but folks just don't know about it's existance yet..........
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« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2008, 08:21:42 pm »

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anyone who would like to start a Alaska Free State movement may do so.

Who's to say there isn't one going already.......but folks just don't know about it's existence yet..........

Well, there's the Alaskan Independence Party:

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