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unstructuredreality

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« on: July 19, 2004, 02:07:19 pm »

http://cryptome.org/dnc-insec.htm

http://www.tscm.com/

Interesting bits of info, but why wasn't this "terrorist" detained for taking photos of a sensitive site.  Must have been a lack of securtity there.  This guy received much worse attention:
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/news/716_photgrapher.html


Another Boston security link about Federal Cameras connected to D.C.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/conven..._to_convention/

Consistency!
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unstructuredreality

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2004, 04:47:21 pm »

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...photographer_dc
                       *Urgent alert in Texas for a quarter of the population!*

"The man, described as white with dark hair, was seen taking pictures outside the refineries, all located on the same highway, at about 5 p.m. CDT on Saturday, said Bruce Clawson, emergency management and homeland security director for Texas City.

While it is not illegal to take pictures of a refinery from a highway or street, officials would like to talk to the man to find out his reason for taking the photographs."

People in Boston just aren't vigilant I guess.

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unstructuredreality

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2004, 11:17:01 pm »

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0722/p01s01-uspo.html

A scan will get you thruough mate.  Don't worry.  The convention is the most secure place on earth.  We look forward to your business.  Let us be your next vaction destination.

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unstructuredreality

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2004, 11:24:28 pm »

http://cryptome.org/dnc-dauphine.htm

Choppers get free pass at this convention.  Is Carnivore in operation these days?  Blatant security fault here.

 
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Mostly Harmless

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2004, 09:19:27 am »

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While video surveillance has become a common tool for police and private security personnel, Boston police and federal officials concede that the additional cameras and new technology represent another chapter in Boston. And it's here to stay: Boston police say the 30 or so cameras installed for the convention will be used throughout the city once the event is over.

''We own them now," said police Superintendent Robert Dunford. ''We're certainly not going to put them in a closet."

And they won't be stopping the "random" bag searches and ID checks of public transit (subway, bus and commuter rail) afterwards either. Haven't seen much posted about that, but I did hear one news report to that effect. There has also been talk of expanding this type of surveillance to other cities.

Of course, you have to undertand that all this security is necessary to protect innocent civilians from terrorists like my 14-yo son. Yesterday he was stopped on the T just south of MetroBoston, because he was wearing a 3' long chain connecting his wallet to his belt. The MBTA (transit) cops who stopped him demanded he remove it because it was a "weapon".

Now, if it's such a dangerous weapon, are we any safer if he's carrying it concealed in his backpack?  
 
OK he was dressed all in black and his T-shirt said "All your base are belong to us!" And while many guys wear wallets on chains, most of the chains are shorter and lighter. But even so!  He's a 14-yo boy!!! He doesn't even look Middle Eastern. How much damage can he do... Oh wait, I'll take that back. He's a 14-yo boy  :rolleyes:

He's wearing it again today. He and I have agreed it is a "fashion accessory" and a "security device" and that the word "weapon" will only be used in this context when immediately preceded with "not a".

However, it's much easier for a cop to earn his donut money and pension by hassling 14-yos about their fashion sense than it is for them to take on the normal criminal element on the T: Muggers, pickpockets, rapists, etc. Never mind a real live honest-to-goodness terrorist.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2004, 10:00:33 am »

Mostly-

It sounds like you are bringing up your son right and proper!  

I get a good, secret laugh when my daughter goes out with her black shirt that reads, "Local 666 Union, International Brotherhood of Headbangers, Slamdancers, and General Mischief Makers" and wears a pentacle just to screw with the locals heads here in the heart of the Bible Belt.  

When she was still in public school, the school 'counselor' once targeted her as a troublemaker because she wore black clothes 'all' the time and hung out with people who weren't considered popular.  He told her if she kept wearing black clothes and hanging out with the wrong people she would end up ditching school, getting arrested and end up in jail.

'Tisn't just the cops earning their donut money 'round here.
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unstructuredreality

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2004, 12:52:17 am »

After the "danger is over", I'll bet some of those cameras stay in place along the subways and freeways.  Homeland Security will want to follow through on what they did right?  Give the cameras a big hello going through "the big dig" , they will be on file for ages.

:(

"......'em all watch em fall..."
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unstructuredreality

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2004, 03:18:10 pm »

Well, to wrap up my own little coverage of the convention, I'll leave it with this: http://www.boston.com/news/politics/conven...y_rules?mode=PF

"With 15-foot fencing and black netting, the area around the FleetCenter was transformed yesterday into the so-called hard zone, where uniformed soldiers and police officers in bright orange raincoats patrolled outside while the Secret Service completed its sweep of the facility for security threats in preparation for tomorrow's start of the Democratic National Convention.

Because of the security sweep, several hundred reporters and news crews spent up to two hours waiting to get to office space inside the zone.

''It's the Secret Service," said one Boston police officer, after he sent reporters to the wrong entrance. ''They keep changing orders."

Confusion, confusion, confusion.

"''I've covered 10 conventions," said Mark Z. Barabak, a Washington correspondent for the Los Angeles Times. ''There's a lot of confusion. It doesn't seem like anyone knows what's going on."

and
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040725/D.../D841VDIO0.html

"Camouflaged military police staked out elevated subway lines overlooking the FleetCenter, where 4,350 delegates will convene Monday through Thursday to nominate their presidential candidate. A surveillance helicopter often hovered over the area.

Bomb-sniffing dogs and officers roamed nearby streets. Metal barricades about 7 feet high directed foot traffic. In other ways, however, Boston was eerily quiet for a sunny summer day that would normally be bustling with tourists."



Good Day :)
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Mostly Harmless

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2004, 11:56:12 am »

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After the "danger is over", I'll bet some of those cameras stay in place along the subways and freeways.  Homeland Security will want to follow through on what they did right?  Give the cameras a big hello going through "the big dig" , they will be on file for ages.

:(

"......'em all watch em fall..."
They've already said the cameras will stay. Don't have a link to the report RFN, but the cops have publicly stated they will not be "putting the cameras back in the closet".

Time to move...
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2004, 03:54:43 pm »

Just unbelievable what has happened to the cradle of our liberty. Read a book titled 3 Men of Boston and tell me if John Adams, Sam Adams, James Otis and John Hancock would have put up with these intrusions. The original Sons of Liberty would have been pulling these things down and tossing them through the windows of those who put them up.
The truly amazing facet of this to me is that this is the town where the revolution was fomented. How can these people call themselves Bostonians and do this to the memory of the Old South Church.
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