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Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« on: January 20, 2008, 10:29:18 pm »

RFID Tags and Privacy (June 21, 2004 PDF HTML)


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Anyone else out there...please feel free to add in to this thread.
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2008, 04:23:20 pm »

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RFID 101
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 07:06:52 pm »

Everything you wanted to know about RFID. A comprehensive 101 from 6 links and a book.




General RFID Information
What is RFID?
RFID Technology
How does an RFID system work?
RFID Standards
Privacy and Data Collection
Other RFID Issues
RFID in Consumer Products
http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/



RFID 101
The Future Is Here: A Beginner's Guide to RFID
http://www.rfidgazette.org/2004/06/rfid_101.html



RFID: Tracking everything, everywhere
-Expect big changes
-A number for every item on the planet
-The implications of RFID
-Consumer marketing applications will decimate privacy
by Katherine Albrecht, CASPIAN Founder
Excerpted from:
    Albrecht, Katherine."Supermarket Cards: The Tip of the Retail Surveillance Iceberg."  Denver University Law Review, Summer 2002
CASPIAN: Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering
http://www.nocards.org/AutoID/overview.shtml


RFID Chips are Here
RFID is being embedded in everything from clothes to money and your privacy is disappearing.
RFID 101
http://privacynotes.com/RFID/RFID_chips_are_here.html


Have you wondered why the U.S. Government seems so keen on RFID lately?
CASPIAN UNCOVERS U.S. GOVERNMENT RFID PROMOTION SCHEME
Heads of Federal Agencies encouraged to "advance the industry"
 January 31, 2005
http://www.spychips.com/press-releases/gsa-document.html



SPYCHIPS: How Major Corporations and Government Plan to Track
Your Every Purchase and Watch Your Every Move
Our award-winning book, now revised, updated, and available in paperback!
by Katherine Albrecht (Author), Liz McIntyre (Author)
http://www.spychips.com/book/booksplash.html
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452287669



March 22, 2005
RFID Privacy Issues
How RFID Will Impact Consumer Privacy
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/3893/1/1/


Nov. 25, 2008
RFID Chips: A Privacy And Security Pandora's Box?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081118141854.htm
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 07:12:09 pm »

Yes, exactly. Good coverage, thank you Byron.
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 09:45:02 pm »

Well, this monster has a lot of inertia and it seems there is little one or anyone can do to stop it or even slow it down.

So what's the average bloke supposed to do to maintain privacy?  Surely there are some workarounds, such as AFFORDABLE detection?  Seems that the first thing to do is actually detect these darn things...

It would be sweet to have a PDA (or similarly sized innocent looking device) with RFID scan capability...  Since it is a receiver only, no FCC 'permission' should be required?  Or would it have to be sophisticated enough to send out a 'waking' frequency to the RFID chip to force a 'talk back'?

 
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 07:36:56 am »

bobcat,

by its very definition an RFID reader or interrogator sends out a signal which powers a passive RFID chip.
an active RFID chip like an E-toll pass has a battery to constantly send out a signal up to 300ft. range.
since this is worldwide readers will be available from many countries.
will the u.s. outlaw importing them?
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 07:57:12 pm »

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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2008, 11:30:23 pm »

bobcat,

by its very definition an RFID reader or interrogator sends out a signal which powers a passive RFID chip.
an active RFID chip like an E-toll pass has a battery to constantly send out a signal up to 300ft. range.
since this is worldwide readers will be available from many countries.
will the u.s. outlaw importing them?

THanks for the correction Byron.  My ignorance has been corrected. :doh:

Elias, looks like this technology is a bit pricey at this point in the game.  But at least it's available, for now?  Maybe I need to get to know someone in the retail industry? :ph34r:
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quote about RFID
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2008, 06:30:26 pm »

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In 5 years RFID will be in everything we own, in ten years there will be a data base with all RFID's in it. 
Get used to it. Privacy is a relic of the past.
-bobbknight
01-27-2008
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/248095-28-rfid-underwear


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RFID in pament systems
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 09:24:52 am »

RFID in pament systems like this used at toll booths in Ohio
http://www.beurs.nl/m/nieuwsbericht.php?id=217121&titel=

let's your movements be tracked much more than a traditional credit card.
we already know airport codes go on a credit card statement.
possibly toll booths will have similar id codes.
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 07:43:22 pm »

Just last week, the Commonwealth of Virginia voted to reject "Real ID".   :brave: South Carolina was the first state to reject it just over one year ago, followed by several others since then to reject it.   This was the first attempt by the Department of Homeland Security to "socialize" these United States. 
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 07:50:55 pm »

Just last week, the Commonwealth of Virginia voted to reject "Real ID".   :brave: South Carolina was the first state to reject it just over one year ago, followed by several others since then to reject it.   This was the first attempt by the Department of Homeland Security to "socialize" these United States. 

Replace 'socialize' with 'subjugate'. The goal is a combined version of socialism and corporatism.

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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2009, 09:29:21 pm »

Anybody know of anything that would disable the chips, or just kill them outright?
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2009, 01:30:17 am »

Its funny you should ask, I was wondering myself. 

http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/18/69

Its a start, and I will keep looking.  You just need something that screws up the signal. 
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Re: Intro: RealID, RFID, NAIS, etc.
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2009, 02:43:43 am »

http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/18/73

4How to kill your RFID chip
In this step I will describe a few ways to permanently disable or kill an RFID chip. Most products that you own that contain RFID tags belong to you, so you have the right to destroy them; however, tampering with a US passport is a federal offense. Luckily there are ways to kill an RFID tag without leaving any evidence, so as long as you are careful, it would be pretty hard to prove that you did anything illegal.


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-The easiest way to kill an RFID, and be sure that it is dead, is to throw it in the microwave for 5 seconds. Doing this will literally melt the chip and antenna making it impossible for the chip to ever be read again. Unfortunately this method has a certain fire risk associated with it. Killing an RFID chip this way will also leave visible evidence that it has been tampered with, making it an unsuitable method for killing the RFID tag in passports. Doing this to a credit card will probably also screw with the magnetic strip on the back making it un-swipeable.

-The second, slightly more convert and less damaging, way to kill an RFID tag is by piercing the chip with a knife or other sharp object. This can only be done if you know exactly where the chip is located within the tag. This method also leaves visible evidence of intentional damage done to the chip, so it is unsuitable for passports.

-The third method is cutting the antenna very close to the chip. By doing this the chip will have no way of receiving electricity, or transmitting its signal back to the reader. This technique also leaves minimal signs of damage, so it would probably not be a good idea to use this on a passport.

-The last (and most covert) method for destroying a RFID tag is to hit it with a hammer. Just pick up any ordinary hammer and give the chip a few swift hard whacks. This will destroy the chip, and leave no evidence that the tag has been tampered with. This method is suitable for destroying the tags in passports, because there will be no proof that you intentionally destroyed the chip.


Also, and I get a personal kick out of this one....is to make a tin foil wallet for your RFID cards!

( My tease my kids and tell them I am going to make them wear tin foil hats to school....NO MOMMY!!!!!)

So, its the low tech way, hit the dang thing with a hammer!  I love it!
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