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Initiative would allow pot sales at liquor stores
« on: July 08, 2008, 04:42:40 pm »

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Jul 7, 2008



Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it
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SALEM, Ore. - Relax it and tax it.

That's the motto behind a new cannabis initiative that would allow Oregon's state-controlled liquor stores to legally sell marijuana to adults.

Initiative backers said their plan would send 90 percent of the proceeds from the state's sale of marijuana to Oregon's General Fund, which could lower Oregonians' state tax burden.

Smaller percentages would go to funding drug abuse education and treatment programs.

The initiative would also legalize the growing of hemp, a non-drug variant of cannabis that can be used to make industrial-strength fibers and bio-fuels.

Supporters claim that allowing cannabis cultivation and sales through state liquor stores would add $300 million in combined tax revenues and savings to Oregon's budget.

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Re: Initiative would allow pot sales at liquor stores
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 04:50:27 pm »

Why do so many always think the only option to drugs being illegal is drugs being available through the state with them taking their cut of the proceeds? They need to kick their damn theft habit. Like, man, they should go cold turkey on that stealing thing. That would really be far out, man.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2008, 04:55:05 pm »




Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Some call it tampee
Some call it the weed
Some call it Marijuana
Some of them call it Ganja

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Singer smoke it
And players of instruments too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyers too

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

It's good for the flu
It's good for asthma
Good for tuberculosis
Even umara composis

Legalize it - don't criticize it
Legalize it and i will advertise it

Bird eat it
And they leave it
Fowls eat it
Goats love to play with it
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Re: Initiative would allow pot sales at liquor stores
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2008, 05:43:55 pm »

The only way that any government in this country will ever allow the legal sale of marijuana is if they can tax the hell out of it and make massive amounts of money.  Dollar signs are the only things that get politician's attention.  I live in West Virginia, which recently legalized casino gaming for no other reason than to make money from it.  "Lawmakers" who decried the lack of morality that resulted in the legalization of table games are already licking their chops over spending the cash.

Unfortunately, once weed is legalized there will be a vast police apparatus that suddenly needs to find something to do.  If Oregon does this Washington State Troopers and FBI Agents will camp out on the border waiting for someone to cross state lines with an ounce.   
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2008, 05:56:05 pm »

Unfortunately, once weed is legalized there will be a vast police apparatus that suddenly needs to find something to do.  If Oregon does this Washington State Troopers and FBI Agents will camp out on the border waiting for someone to cross state lines with an ounce.   

Unfortunately,what you say is true. The reason that maryjane (and the other illegal drugs) was illegalized in 1937, is that alcohol was re-legalized in 1933, and the gangsters, crooked police, and crooked politicians were deprived of their lucrative illegal income.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2008, 06:28:11 pm »

Unfortunately, once weed is legalized there will be a vast police apparatus that suddenly needs to find something to do.  If Oregon does this Washington State Troopers and FBI Agents will camp out on the border waiting for someone to cross state lines with an ounce.   

Unfortunately,what you say is true. The reason that maryjane (and the other illegal drugs) was illegalized in 1937, is that alcohol was re-legalized in 1933, and the gangsters, crooked police, and crooked politicians were deprived of their lucrative illegal income.


But since we don't have Harry Anslinger, we won't see anymore anymore panic attack movies like Reefer Madness.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 06:30:59 pm »

That Peter Tosh album...er...I mean CD...is great.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 06:33:26 pm »

The only way that any government in this country will ever allow the legal sale of marijuana is if they can tax the hell out of it and make massive amounts of money.  Dollar signs are the only things that get politician's attention.  I live in West Virginia, which recently legalized casino gaming for no other reason than to make money from it.  "Lawmakers" who decried the lack of morality that resulted in the legalization of table games are already licking their chops over spending the cash.

Unfortunately, once weed is legalized there will be a vast police apparatus that suddenly needs to find something to do.  If Oregon does this Washington State Troopers and FBI Agents will camp out on the border waiting for someone to cross state lines with an ounce.   

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a bloody bunch of wimps, "Oh good, now we that Government Controls weed, and taxes weed, we can smoke all we want and feel good about it"

As long as Nanny says "yes you may" it's just fine?

Not directed at you slaphappy.
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 06:52:27 pm »

Unfortunately, once weed is legalized there will be a vast police apparatus that suddenly needs to find something to do.  If Oregon does this Washington State Troopers and FBI Agents will camp out on the border waiting for someone to cross state lines with an ounce.   

Unfortunately,what you say is true. The reason that maryjane (and the other illegal drugs) was illegalized in 1937, is that alcohol was re-legalized in 1933, and the gangsters, crooked police, and crooked politicians were deprived of their lucrative illegal income.


Actually a bigger part of cannabis laws were the people associated with the use-mexicans. People stereotyped the users and the mexicans. Since then it has been a benefit to keep it illegal to other industries such as paper and fabric and law enforcement and the kingpin dealers (CIA).

Opium was banned and associated w/ the Chinese. Cocaine w/ the african american dock workers. All of those biggies were covered in the 1937 laws. Morphine which was available in many forms was also covered.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2008, 07:24:07 pm »

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Actually a bigger part of cannabis laws were the people associated with the use-mexicans.
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I think that was just the propaganda arm of the movement. William Randolph Hearst used the Mescan angle for his own purposes. Since it was his lumber (paper) business he was trying to protect and his newspapers that printed the propaganda stories. Of course, I could be wrong.  :rolleyes:
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We can hang another one

The Firesign Theatre - from the album Boom Dot Bust

Dear Government
You are a ass shit.

A note from my younger son when he was 3.

When rights are outlawed, only outlaws will have rights. - Me


Round up everybody who can ride a horse or pull a trigger. Let's break out some Winchesters.  - John Wayne (Chisum)

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 11:37:50 pm »

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Actually a bigger part of cannabis laws were the people associated with the use-mexicans.
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I think that was just the propaganda arm of the movement. William Randolph Hearst used the Mescan angle for his own purposes. Since it was his lumber (paper) business he was trying to protect and his newspapers that printed the propaganda stories. Of course, I could be wrong.  :rolleyes:

You're right absolutely. Some people in those  groups listed did use those drugs; however, the racial card was being played to sucker the middle class whites into going along with nanny state ideas. "Beware of the coked up black man! Lock up your women!" I've seen some of the news clippings from the day with these propaganda stories in them. The same theme applied to the other drugs. "Protect your white women!!!"

What a laugh :)
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 08:43:58 pm »

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/07/lotus-eco-elise-concept-with-hemp-body.html
Lotus Eco Elise Concept with Hemp Body Panels!
Wednesday, July 09, 2008 | 1 comments » Categories | Ecology, Lotus, Lotus Elise

Lotus will unveil an environmentally-friendly version of its sporty roadster called Eco Elise at the British Motor Show that opens its doors on July 22. Unlike most eco-friendly propositions of our time, the Eco Elise study doesn’t revolve solely around tailpipe CO2 emissions. Instead, the Brits tried a holistic approach to ecology by using sustainable materials, cleaner manufacturing processes, renewable energy generation and of course, by reducing the car’s weight.

The renewable materials that have been incorporated into the Eco Elis project include hemp (industrial cannabis) that’s used on the car’s composite body panels, spoiler and seats, eco wool for the upholstery and sisal for the carpet. Cleaner manufacturing processes have been achieved by utilizing the latest water based paint technology. As for renewable energy generation, the Eco Elise’s hemp hard top incorporates a set of solar panels th
at provide power for the car’s electrical systems. -Continued

"Performance through light weight" is synonymous with Lotus, so a reduction in mass was a priority for the company’s engineers. The weight reduction philosophy has even extended to the audio system with a lightweight stereo and speaker system from Alpine that saves an impressive 1.5 kg (3.3 lbs). The Eco Elise also uses special lightweight wheels that reduce the unsprung mass and contribute a weight saving of approximately 15.8 kg (34.8 lbs) over the already light Elise wheels.

Overall, the weight saving programme for the Eco Elise has resulted in a total saving of around 32 kg (70.5 lbs) over the feather light Elise S, which consequently reduces the fuel required to drive the car.

I thought it would be green.

P.S.- I think that Cheech and Chong tried this before.
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