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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2009, 03:48:38 pm »

Even Truckee has it's own Chicken Underground movement. This is an idea
who's time has come.

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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2009, 06:04:37 pm »

chickens do not like rats, because rats like eggs.   Chickens are big enough, especially in a decent flock to kill rats.  Red herring argument.  Now if they have an issue with smells/noise, I would understand that.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2010, 09:57:29 pm »

I presently live on an urban homestead in the South. I'm building a chicken coop and run. My city allows up to 10 chickens. I'm a ghost activist so don't ask where. :ph34r:

Wow, this was my first post.

The chicken thing didn't work out.

Why didn't it work out? 


I am nearly finished with my poultry yard.  Hope to have 3 Dominique hens come April.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2010, 11:11:16 pm »

The Bozeman, Montana city council recently voted to allow small flocks of chickens (not roosters) in town.  I was at the CC meeting when a number of chicken supporters showed up to argue for it, including a lady with a chicken in a basket, which she carried around and introduced to the commissioners.  :)   I must say, if I had a rooster next door I would not look favorably on early morning wake up calls, and they are inevitable.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2010, 09:48:01 am »

I presently live on an urban homestead in the South. I'm building a chicken coop and run. My city allows up to 10 chickens. I'm a ghost activist so don't ask where. :ph34r:

Wow, this was my first post.

The chicken thing didn't work out.

Why didn't it work out? 
I am nearly finished with my poultry yard.  Hope to have 3 Dominique hens come April.

Lack of equipment, funds, and chickens that a friend was gonna give us for free.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 04:52:06 pm »

Council OKs up to three hens in city back yards

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Chickens are no longer backyard outlaws in Sacramento.

With a unanimous vote Tuesday night, the City Council passed an ordinance that will allow city residents to keep up to three egg-laying hens in their back yards starting Nov. 1.

The new law was lauded by advocates of the slow-food movement and environmentalists.

"Allowing people who have a home and a yard in our city to not only grow fresh produce for themselves but also to have chickens goes a long way toward addressing food security," said Councilman Rob Fong.

Households that want to keep chickens will be required to pay $15, plus an annual fee of $10 per chicken. No roosters will be allowed.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2011, 04:56:50 pm »

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Households that want to keep chickens will be required to pay $15, plus an annual fee of $10 per chicken. No roosters will be allowed.

why do they always have to find a way to get their filthy grubby hands on your money in the process. What is the purpose of them getting money from you for your chickens.
Just like the people who want to legalize marijuana and TAX it. Gee, just think of the revenue we could get...
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2012, 08:30:20 am »

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Households that want to keep chickens will be required to pay $15, plus an annual fee of $10 per chicken. No roosters will be allowed.

why do they always have to find a way to get their filthy grubby hands on your money in the process. What is the purpose of them getting money from you for your chickens.
Just like the people who want to legalize marijuana and TAX it. Gee, just think of the revenue we could get...

As a general comment, because they can.
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We recently went to bat for a neighbor (I love how in Illinois a neighbor can live 20 miles away and still be your neighbor) who has lived in the same home for 28 years. 1.25 acre lot backed up to a huge farm field in an Unincorporated Township. It's one of those "blink" as you drive through and you'll miss it places.

He's raised a variety of critters from pigs to chickens there with no problem. His across the way neighbor (of 18 years) decided she didn't like the fact that he has Chickens. I'll not go into all the back and forth about the entire issue, but basically he's spent the past 10 months attempting to fight city hall to keep his chickens.

ND and I got involved for several reasons. First, he's a neighbor. Second, there is no clarity in the Zoning law. Third, this affects about 1,000 households that fall into the gray area of "that which is not allowed is forbidden".

The neighbor has gone through several steps: Attempting to have his property re-zoned (denied), attempting to change the wording to the Zoning Law (denied), and finally applied for a special use permit ($35) which we supported through various meetings. ND introduced an Accessory Use text amendment which would have fixed the issue (without the entire "Fee" application per year) and that was shot down at the last meeting. (County Land Use Board)

While I'm happy to report that last night our Neighbor did have his Special Use permit approved for in his particular case chickens (number attached 100), he'll have to reapply for permission next year - after paying the fee of course.

That is not something we intend to let stand. So - it'll be off to the next meeting as we re-introduce the concept of people owning Farm Animals on their Rural Residential property without needing the approval of local .gov and application of a Fee.
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What was really sad was watching in a different case as land owners backed down before the pressure of their "Neighbors" because they didn't do/raise their critters in the "acceptable manner". The spurious nature of information that was provided as "proof" of a future action that might cause issues was fully accepted as fact. How can that be?

Complaints such as "That loafing shed was built too close to so-and-so's property." The Officials said "Well - That does look too close." - while reviewing a google view map provided by the offended person. When the land owner in question said that he had applied for and received a permit to build there - then they reviewed the set back information and found he was in compliance.  "There is no grass in the field for the Horses" was also accepted - even as one must realize that it's winter and the land owner is providing round bales in feeders with no detriment to the critters. 

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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2012, 10:35:46 am »

Mutti,

When someone brings an action against someone else like the nosy neighbor did,
is there any recourse after you've proven their allegations are without merit? It
seems that their ought to be some sort of push back for wasting everybody's time.

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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2012, 11:16:12 am »

Mutti,

When someone brings an action against someone else like the nosy neighbor did,
is there any recourse after you've proven their allegations are without merit? It
seems that their ought to be some sort of push back for wasting everybody's time.
Bear

In this case no. The Neighbor who had the charges leveled against them was in violation of an Ordinance that is only enforced if someone complains. That is why we tried so hard to get the Ordinance changed. In fact, even though the "Special Permit" was granted, the penalties (fees) against the charged person will still go forward. In some ways that is disheartening because there is no way to regulate items such as "offending odor", etc.  thereby leaving the situation open to selective enforcement.
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2012, 04:55:41 pm »

Y'all are good neighbors, MUTTI  :thumbsup:
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2012, 05:09:09 pm »

Y'all are good neighbors, MUTTI  :thumbsup:

Thanks! Somebody once said something like "In order to have good Neighbors you have to be a good Neighbor." I'm sure there are always exceptions to every rule, but we will try where we can!

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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2012, 03:19:55 pm »

Sounds like a neighbor needs a cold shoulder argument......... 
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2015, 08:35:51 pm »

Round Lake Beach, ILL-------No

No farm type animals at all with in city limits 
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Re: Does My City Allow Me to Raise Chickens?
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2016, 06:19:10 pm »

Round Lake Beach, ILL-------No

No farm type animals at all with in city limits

Its actually the same in NE Wyoming, too.  Cop went and forced locals in a town of 1000 ppl to dispose of lambs.  I heard of it through churchies (just because I disagree with Clip's sophist tricks and with the knowledge as belief claims, doesn't mean I don't have faith in certain things or that I don't approve of Christianity.  Post renaissance Christianity has been domesticated and has lost much of its Islam style barbarity and anti science philosophy.)

As for the animals, if you want animals, you HAVE to live in the country.  Its impossible to have animals in most big cities and it makes some semblance of sense with sky rises and bigger cities.  With high population density come people with shitty immune systems, high levels of distress, low levels of eustress and miserable hygiene.  Just imagine the devastation one guy with a communicable animal borne disease will wreak passing through a town.  If you're alone on your farm, hell, if you get sick, you might even get treated (or corpsey) before you make many others sick.  With room come the natural borders which kept infections from wiping out entire continents.  I love some things about big cities, and I hate some things about them.  The gun restrictions in big cities make little sense, since I rarely feel unsafe in my new hometown, (though hiking I regularly find cougar tracks when its wet, so I bring a gun or two and a dog, and I'm on my A game) while in a big city, well alertness is only great if you're Batman or a superhero.

Ideally, had I the cash, I'd keep a home in some big city, and one in rural Wyoming and an airstrip so I could fly in and avoid the highway and government road pirates. :P  (When I said I'm multi talented, I'm not joking.  I just don't have the cash to have as many licenses as I have skills.  I have yet to fly a supersonic or airliner though.  I didn't get married though, and this makes a huge difference.  Kids and wife means lots of headaches a single man with animals and layered security watching his properties just doesn't have.)
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