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da gooch

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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 10:50:44 pm »
 Good one Wheatfields.  :thumbsup:

That would suck wouldn't it. Ouch.
I should have thought of that myself BUT I happen to be a one story earth bermed ranch style kinda guy.
It never even crossed my widdle pea brain.

Thanks for catching up the slack.(er)   :rolleyes:
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 09:13:06 am »
Quote from: Wheatfields on March 02, 2009, 09:54:53 pm
If you're creating a defensible position on a 2nd floor, don't forget to protect the floor!  It would suck for you if you had armored walls and thought you were good to go, and a home invader just fired up through the ceiling.

Lol ya that would really suck.
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2009, 02:46:19 pm »
Go to your local scrap dealer ask for 1090 spring steel plate  or 4140 1/8 in. plate start a camp fire( I do it im my barby pit ) get the plate up to the color of a cherry then pull it out and drop in in a bucket of H2O let it steam and cool. Heat it up  again until it looks the color of blue gun steel and air cool it
that is to say let it air cool. It should be about 58- 65 rockwell on the C scale it's easier than work hardening it(peening). Make sure it is already to size or you will  be grinding awhile as it is hardend and tempered. Will not stop a 7.62x51  AP but it will stop smaller 30 calibers and all most all  pistol rounds and a shot gun slug. Cheap compaired to Titanium plates. Boiler plate is good too but some contains asbestos so leave it be.
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 09:20:33 pm »
On the original post, does that work against good ol 5.56?  I've shot 1/4" plate, and regular old ball ammo zips right through it...  does the plywood make that much difference?

3 lays of 1/4 will stop 5.56 and most 7.62X51...
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 09:58:10 pm »
No idea...found the original article over at SurvivalBlog.com and wondered if it had been field tested.  Sent the article and an e-mail to www.theboxotruth.com  but never heard anything back or saw anything on that site. Also sent mail to JWR trying to find out if he had anymore info but go no response.

And to that I don't have the cash to try it out myself.

So it never went anywhere and i kind am hard pressed to believe that the plywood would make that much difference...but who knows.

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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2009, 09:15:38 am »
I'll see if i can tackle that next time I hit the range..
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2009, 06:22:26 pm »
Back to the original question of body armor. I know that if it were me and i had to make something better than nothing. I would start with Vectran/Spectra or some fabric like it and stack it such that the direction of the weave is altered every 15 degrees. That way the bullet is always reunning into something.

The chinese made armor out of silk and glue this way. They also interjected pieces of leather.

My modern version would be similar. Id use some glue to glue the vectran together and interupting it with metal sheet and rubber tire for shock absorption.

Id play with different stackings and test that against a -06 round as a bench mark.

As for houses.... I like bermed monolithic domes.  It's tough to get a 50 cal bullet into several feet of dirt adn concrete. Its just tough!

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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2009, 09:36:59 pm »
If I had a stick frame house, I'd put concrete planters around it where I needed
ballistic protection. They look normal, so they don't attract attention, plus you
get 2 layers of concrete with soil in between.

If your floor can take the weight, sand bags against exterior walls is a good idea.
You might not put them everywhere but at least where you expect to have a
firing position.

Our house is a bit odd -- it's a berm-wall construction, earth sheltered home,
which has it's own issues. If I were getting skittish about security, I'd buy a
bunch of security cameras with wireless connections to cover my blind spots,
and one or two looking back at my place to look "over the shoulder" of anyone
trying to sneak up on us.

Bear
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2009, 10:02:44 pm »
Quote from: Bear on August 17, 2009, 09:36:59 pm
If I had a stick frame house, I'd put concrete planters around it where I needed
ballistic protection. They look normal, so they don't attract attention, plus you
get 2 layers of concrete with soil in between.

If your floor can take the weight, sand bags against exterior walls is a good idea.
You might not put them everywhere but at least where you expect to have a
firing position.

Our house is a bit odd -- it's a berm-wall construction, earth sheltered home,
which has it's own issues. If I were getting skittish about security, I'd buy a
bunch of security cameras with wireless connections to cover my blind spots,
and one or two looking back at my place to look "over the shoulder" of anyone
trying to sneak up on us.

Bear


If I was in your position, I'd add an escape tunnel, an artillery piece, and A secret place to hide your soon-to-be-outlawed-goodies.
All on top of what you said.
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2009, 03:01:36 pm »
Does anyone have experience with use of this product? Defencell, Made in Nashville, TN. It is a fabric poly type material which is used as an interlinking wall which is then sandwich filled with sand, gravel, etc. The sizes start from small lengths to larger. Specs are listed on this link site.
http://www.defencell.com/pdfs/faqs.pdf
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2009, 10:30:11 am »
No sir  but I really did like the photos at their website under Wall systems.

Now all I need is to win the Lotto to be able to afford the land to set it up on ....


edit to add ...
Of course if that happens I could afford professional body armor ....
« Last Edit: September 07, 2009, 10:31:46 am by gooch »
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2009, 08:49:12 pm »

Looks like a version of the older HESCO Bastion.

http://www.hesco.com/
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2009, 03:57:32 pm »
In urban and suburban areas I am aware of some building small exterior walls with landscape key stone bricks, either free standing or backed with mortor. They are good looking, cost effective, more durable than other brick options, and can be installed a little at a time. Also not likley to raise any eyebrows or violate any local codes.
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2009, 07:05:16 pm »
Packing earth behind it makes it even better.
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Re: Home made armor
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2010, 10:20:44 pm »
I live in a tidal area and my house is up about 5 ft off the ground... great for a raised platform... but the blocks it sits on can only take so much weight.  I installed a wood stove and stocked the house with about 4 tons of Liberty Bricks for fuel.  They are more dense than wood... stack great and uniform... and can line the walls for protection.  They are about 6 inches thick... because of the tides and weather... I needed something that can store inside... or be prepared to store the wood 3 ft off the ground.. this was a perfect solution.  www.libertybricks.com

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