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[Elias Alias]

The original website for Oath-Keepers is here: http://www.oath-keepers.blogspot.com/

A new website for Oath-Keepers is being created as we speak, and may or may not feature a Forum on-site. In the meantime, I've received approval from the Administrators here at TMM to offer our assistance to Oath-Keepers by adding a new Forum here which will be devoted to messaging services for Oath-Keepers.

The idea for "Oath-Keepers" came from the brilliant mind of Stewart The Yalie - one of our own. It's genius is in its simplicity, in its legality, in its non-violent approach to justice and truth, and in its harking back to this nation's founding principles. And its genius is perhaps most brilliant in the fact that this simple little matter just asks all Military, LEOs, Veterans, and concerned citizens to honor their oaths to the U.S. Constitution. Just how valuable that one little thing is to our nation's future as a nation which protects the individual citizen's personal liberty is realized by the insanity just found in a new resolution, HR-1388, now in Congress, which, among other things, would change the Military and LEO "oath" from being an oath to support and defend the U.S. Constitution to an oath to support and defend the President of the United States. Believe it or not, HR-1388 is now before our Congress.

So it is not quite timely to bring this issue to the public's awareness. Stewart The Yalie is on to something big here. I encourage each reader here to visit Stewart's Oath-Keepers website as linked above, and to stay tuned here as we announce the opening of the new Oath-Keepers web operation, and other developments. Questions? Click on my name beside this post to send me a private message. Thanks!

Salute!
And welcome aboard all Oath-Keepers!
Elias

[Klapton Isgod]

Hooray!!!

[MsSage]

hope its not temporary. Great way to get more viewers.
Keep up the great work

[Elias Alias]

hope its not temporary. Great way to get more viewers.
Keep up the great work

Good point, MsSage. I've posted in the General Discussion section, in the Oath-Keepers thread, about this. I want to assure you that the new Forum here for Oath-Keepers will not go away, even if Stewart includes a Forum on his new, upcoming website. So feel free to post away here, with certain knowledge that your posts will remain permanently as a part of TMM.

And I thank you for your support. Thanks for being here.

Salute!
Elias

[padre29]

A hat tip and a "thank you" for those who keep their word over the tides of the world, it is all you have so cherish it as one would cherish a winning lottery ticket.

Good show Elias A for offering a Bachelor's Quarters.

[Stewart the Yalie]

Elias,

Thank you so much for stepping up and starting this forum space for Oath Keepers.  Even if we end up with a forum on the formal site, once it is up, this is a great start.  And thanks for the whole TMM crew as well.

Follks, Elias is a combat veteran, a staunch patriot, a principled advocate for liberty, and a good man.  He is the real deal.  He will be playing a key roll in Oath Keepers from here forward (to whatever degree he has time for) and I am proud to have him onboard. 

Stewart Rhodes

[CorbinKale]

Thanks, Elias and Stewart!

This is a great idea, and I like it here, already.

[Junker]

Good thinking, Elias.

[da gooch]

Allow me to add my thanks too Elias.

gooch

[BJ]

Hi Elias,

I'm putting out a question regarding any additional information regarding talks between the white house and the DOD, specifically Gen. James Cartwright, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, regarding the change of the wording of the 'oath of allegiance-- specifically having soldiers pledge an allegiance to the office of the President versus the Constitution?  I am providing a link to the article which discusses this and would appreciate any response or possibly whether this is credible info or not.  Thanks very much.



http://www.prisonplanet.com/obama%E2%80%99s-hitler-oath.html

[mgundoc]

LINE IN THE SAND
  To all, I say LOVE is the true power and that the OATH taken by so many is a pledge out of care for what is good and right in this land we call America!
   I myself do not wish for a fight and that I have called, emailed, pleaded, challenged to all concerned of their Responsibility and DUTY to the Oath for which they have pledged, from Police, Politicians, Soldiers (I am a Armorer), friends, family and all that are in positions to make a positive effect. Still the ones that are in positions of power will not do THE RIGHT THING or even the job we elected them to, by protecting our sovereign rights as citizens of this land & by promise of their oath to office,leaving us citizens with the last resort to ever come closer.
   I am just a man that loves his country and sadly I must now start preparing to defend this land I care so much about; not from some invading Foreign force but my very own ELECTED GOVERNMENT. This is a fight NONE of us should want but to all that have taken the Oath, REMEMBER this!!
Alot of good Men & Women have paid with their lives to keep this land free from the like's of what we now face and remember that the Man or Woman standing next to you could very well hold true to the Oath that they have taken and so go ahead and commit acts of unconstitutional aggression against the citizens and you just might get a little surprise from the REAL MEN & WOMEN that serve our land and so to the one's of honor, I SALUTE you and to the ones that dishonor their Oath, I pity you for when you hold your child, think about the world you are giving to that souls' future and what you may soon be dying for, like I probably will, (at least my death will be with honor)!   
                                                                 (WILL YOURS)
Sighed,
         A Vet of the US.NAVY-TWR,US.ARMY-91A,P.M.C-FOREIGN WEAPONS ARMORER(CURRENT)

[Who...me?]

Well said. If I may, I would like throw out a thought for soldiers, police and anyone else that may enable through force of arms what we all think is going to happen. One day when you aren't of any use to them, if you live that long, you will be the ones getting the shaft by your masters. You don't think that anything you are told or promised by them can be trusted...do you? Do you trust anybody that you know is a liar? I know folks that if thy told me the sky was blue I would walk outside to check. Don't trust them. Think it through, if they have proven to be untrustworthy then YOU CAN'T TRUST THEM!

One day you will be on the other side of the fence.

[da gooch]

....oh, and good to hear from you this a.m. over the airwaves -- I needed all the help I could get.  Now, about that article, I'd appreciate any input from you all as to its credibility.

"Now, about that article, I'd appreciate any input from you all as to its credibility"

Not very is my personal opinion  BUT ....
I do not have any empirical evidence to support that so I am keeping an open ear to the Web threads.

It sounds suspiciously like a "false flag" web event geared towards having the "hotheads" announce themselves for the "roundups" that are in the NorCom planning books.

[mgundoc]

Well if I am on a LIST then I will ware it with PRIDE(My colors don't run)!
I have A FEW GOOD MEN that will avenge my stand if need be and they(AND I) are not your run of the mill swat teams(We play HARD)God help the ones that would do us harm for speaking out to WHAT IS RIGHT.
I and my MEN WILL STAND by our Oath and hold accountable the ones that DON'T(NUF SAID)

[Elias Alias]

....oh, and good to hear from you this a.m. over the airwaves -- I needed all the help I could get.  Now, about that article, I'd appreciate any input from you all as to its credibility.

Jim,
After searching for quite some time, it appears that there is nothing to that false claim. Everything I dragged up led back to the same blog, which offers no tangible proof of the claim.

It's a shame that this sort of hoax is so readily believable, but then, nothing this government might do today would surprise me, so I was easily taken in upon hearing this on the radio this morning. We have to be extremely careful to check sources before saying things which cannot be proved or verified. A lot of listeners this morning were steered wrongly to think something which I cannot prove. I don't know who started that segment of the show, but whoever implied that this rumor was true may have wrecked the host's standing at KMMS - she was in tears over this, and if this turns out to be unprovable, then the station's credibility was damaged, and her own creditility will now be suspect. People who do psyops do this kind of thing. We have to be careful at all times. I'm gonna email KMMS and suggest a correction/disclaimer be issued in the morning.

However, as I said, an effort to change the oath would not surprise me, so I'll continue to keep an ear open on this. For the moment, however, I'm calling it a hoax. Thanks to psyops, "hoaxes" are abundant nowadays. We must not react to un-sourced rumors. There is already too much confusion and fear running rampant across the nation right now.

By the way, can you fill me in on what was stated before I called in? Who brought this subject up? As I said, I tuned in late and missed the opening segment. When I tuned in, the topic was full-blown, and I have no idea who started the topic. I had presumed that she had got it as a breaking news item off the wires. Now I'm wondering if a caller brought it up, of if she had a guest on who brought it up. Anything you can fill in for me would be appreciated. Thanks.

Salute!
Elias