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pachristianpatriot

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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2010, 03:17:54 am »

Awesome!!
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2010, 04:56:13 pm »

jamie,

As one anarchist to another..................if you don't have anything nice to say then say nothing.............
A wedge needs both an edge and width to split a log...................think about that..............

I am not sure who you thought I was talking about but it wasn't the warrant officer.   See the book or the series, Once an Eagle for an explanation. Or read About Face or Soldier for further explanation.
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2010, 11:34:40 pm »

HUH ?
I also don't understand what Jamie supposedly said that needed correction.

I understood him to be supporting and applauding both the WO and CorbinKale.
That was your intention wasn't it Jamie ?

I understood the "Perfumed Princes. Careerists and some other adjectives I won't use.  The UCMJ is anything but." comment to be directed at the unlawful order issuing [supposedly] superior officer [et al] that the WO was reporting about in his comment.

I don't get it Zoot .... sorry.
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2010, 11:58:24 pm »

Oh geez.............that was way back in February and I can't remember what I was thinking at the time  :laugh:
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2010, 12:46:01 am »

Oh geez.............that was way back in February and I can't remember what I was thinking at the time  :laugh:

Yet another reason I gave up Thinking.
It always seemed to get me into trouble or places I couldn't get away from fast enough ....
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #65 on: May 07, 2016, 01:25:21 am »

Yet another reason I gave up Thinking.
It always seemed to get me into trouble or places I couldn't get away from fast enough ....

When mudding, some people put directional tires on backwards
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #66 on: May 07, 2016, 08:57:57 pm »

HUH ?
I also don't understand what Jamie supposedly said that needed correction.

I understood him to be supporting and applauding both the WO and CorbinKale.
That was your intention wasn't it Jamie ?

I understood the "Perfumed Princes. Careerists and some other adjectives I won't use.  The UCMJ is anything but." comment to be directed at the unlawful order issuing [supposedly] superior officer [et al] that the WO was reporting about in his comment.

I don't get it Zoot .... sorry.

Very late with this not that it matters but Gooch is dead on. That is what I was trying to convey.
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2016, 12:53:57 pm »

I believe that we have our answers to whether or not the trigger pullers will fire on American citizens.

When it comes right down to it the saying that Bush made famous, 'If your not with us your with the terrorist' will be in the conditioned minds of most all of the rank and file that is deployed to either put down insurrection or confiscate weapons, food or what ever the command structure at that time orders to be taken.   Twenty some odd years ago the vast majority of the people serving would not follow the type of illegal orders that are on the shelf now in the NDAA, Patriot Act, PPE etc.  Simply put, that is because they were trained with ethics, morals, Constitution and UCMJ. 

In today's military this isn't the case.  The new recruit and his trainer have been thoroughly conditioned to follow the edicts and orders from on high without asking why or giving it a second thought.  The past TRADOC curriculum has taken many of the old course work training mentioned above out of the basic through AIT training.

When the already built up and documented orders are given to quell unrest or confiscate personal stores of food, weapons and ammunition, all justified on National Security, we will see individual members and even whole units of the armed forces jumping over the wire to join in the defense of the Republic from the true domestic and foreign enemy. 

This brings me to address the fact that our federal government and the military have been taken over by globalist who care not for the people of this country or the men and women that serve in its armed forces.  Those that have the inside knowledge that there have been agreements made to introduce foreign military to help out in the case of civil unrest and to use private para-military contractors to work alongside the oath breakers in our military have either stayed silent about these plans or blown the whistle on this treason to the detriment of themselves and their careers. 

Sadly the clarion calls made by these patriots who have spoken up have not been taken very seriously by many in the liberty movement.  This is in my opinion due to rampant normalcy bias that afflicts many of the members within the cause and even some of the leadership too.  Combine this mentality with the obvious infiltration of federal Co-Intel-Pro operatives and the future outcome of any resistance looks bleak to say the least no matter how well the future battle space is shaped through RTI or education on the original constitution or the orders that we will not obey.

What I am trying to say is that foreign military will not hesitate to fire on Americans, payed mercenaries will not hesitate to fire on Americans and the Millennials who fill the ranks of our own military will not disobey the orders given to them either.   Once they are fired on by these unethical contractors to make it look like it was patriots doing it, they will follow their training to protect the man on their left and right, closing with and destroying the enemy just like we were taught to do.

I have read many times on different comment sections that Oath Keepers and 3% are all talk, although talk does have a place and OK does fill that spot very well, 3% groups have their own problems with infiltration and summer soldiers in their ranks but I don't believe that they are all talk, just biding their time until needed.  For myself, I have grown to believe that the time for talk is well past and the time to train and prepare is on our doorsteps.  It is neither illegal to do so and it is down right common sense to begin in earnest yesterday.  CPT is an excellent way to do this but I fear that there are too many summer soldiers in the movement to make much of a large scale difference in the coming storm if these groups are not allowed to branch out to other security type groups as in Militia's to combine their knowledge and resources for the time that is coming.  The concept of CPT is an outstanding initiative that makes the Oath Keepers more than just an educational organization, but in turn it places the organization and its members in a different category of perceived threats to the UN-American and treasonous tyrants that we face.  So why not go all the way instead of trying to look like the organization that it started out to be?  Quit concerning yourselves with whether or not the target audience is being driven away and look to the wide awake cognitive dissident people who will not follow illegal orders.

Now hopefully some of the realist that I know frequent here will chime in with their experienced opinions and suggestions on not if, but when we will be confronting this situation in the future when oath takers dishonor their oaths, foreign soldiers run amuck and immoral Americans who are paid do unlawful things because they were ordered to do them under color of law.
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2016, 03:21:27 pm »

Hey Freeman
welcome bro

I hear you about what passes as our military now
but also think about this, their rifle training is not the same as when we went through it.
and how much do people still train? both in and out of the military?
people out do so because they want to, those in do it because they have to.

same for the police, most never fire their weapon but once a year.
take NYC, over 40 shots fired but only 9 hits, and about half did not go through the clothes.
So where did all those other bullets go?
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Re: Orders Oath-Keepers Will Not Obey
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2016, 12:00:57 am »

I checked with my ole' shipmate, 32 yr E9 gone contractor, about conditions shipboard.  He said that there isn't enough fuel money to deploy.  So everyone is going in late and sitting around computers taking classes to finish degrees or trying to advance to Officer.
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