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da gooch

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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2010, 09:17:43 pm »

Thanks CorbinKale.

I was afraid they would make me cut the response into two pieces [for being so long] I'm glad they left it as it was.

Stay Safe,

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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2011, 02:07:30 pm »

ph34r  URGENT*********PLEASE WATCH THE FOLLOWING VIDEO AND CONTACT ME TO FIND OUT  HOW TO GET MORE DETAILS IF YOU REALLY ARE AN OATHKEEPER*******


http://www.facebook.com/ video /video.php?v=1468256563646

THIS WILL TAKE PLACE AUGUST 2ND, 2011 IF CONGRESS AND SENATE DO NOT INDICT AND ARREST OBAMA FOR TREASON!!  WE WILL NEED MILLIONS OF ARMED CITIZEN (SOLDIERS AND REGULAR CITIZENS).  WE WILL NOT USE FORCE UNLESS THEY USE FORCE FIRST!!!


This Event posting is NOT acceptable to the Oath Keepers Organization and as such will NOT be supported Officially. Oath Keepers does not "demand" actions with an "or else" clause attached.

Folks are herewith encouraged to actually read the What We Are Not List and to also make themselves familiar with Oath Keepers as an organization by going to our actual website at http://oathkeepers.org/oath/  and/or  http://oathkeepers.org/about/ .

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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2011, 02:13:08 pm »

What exactly are you proposing to do on August 2?
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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2011, 02:31:57 pm »

ph34r  URGENT*********PLEASE WATCH THE FOLLOWING VIDEO AND CONTACT ME TO FIND OUT  HOW TO GET MORE DETAILS IF YOU REALLY ARE AN OATHKEEPER*******


http:// www.face  book.com/ video /video.php?v=1468256563646

THIS WILL TAKE PLACE AUGUST 2ND, 2011 IF CONGRESS AND SENATE DO NOT INDICT AND ARREST OBAMA FOR TREASON!!  WE WILL NEED MILLIONS OF ARMED CITIZEN (SOLDIERS AND REGULAR CITIZENS).  WE WILL NOT USE FORCE UNLESS THEY USE FORCE FIRST!!!


Have You even read the What We Are Not List?

You apparently do NOT Realize that we [Oath Keepers] are NOT some kind of "rapid reaction force" to spring into action at the least sign of tyranny.
[Tyranny is already rampant or haven't you noticed until now?]
Why do you think we organized in 2009?

What we ARE is an education organization whose goal is to educate the currently serving to their responsibility to defend the Constitution and thereby refuse unconstitutional orders.

I do not have or want a facebook account and therefore cannot watch your video.
Explain it if you can/will?
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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2011, 03:14:20 pm »

From the comments thread under the video on Facebook:

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THEY HAVE UNTIL AUGUST 2ND, 2011 TO ENDICT AND ARREST OBAMA FOR TREASON AND IF THEY DON'T WE MARCH--AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY---IT'S UP TO THEM IF IT'S PEACEFUL OR NOT!!

No, Oath Keepers will NOT support your march.  We support all LEGAL means of removing officials from office, including impeachments, criminal indictments, etc.  But we will NOT demand that these things happen "or else."  I understand that many people fear that election fraud will result in a second term for Obama.  MY greater fear is that the GOP will choose yet another status-quo, big goverment neo-con in the primary, and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year.

But running off to DC half-cocked in an unorganized, unpermitted (I don't care about permits, but the DC cops do - A LOT) demonstration will achieve nothing but your own arrest.

If you do NOT want to get arrested on August 2, I suggest you start here:  http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1241,Q,548264,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,%7C,.asp
« Last Edit: July 20, 2011, 03:25:44 pm by Klapton »
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2011, 04:29:40 pm »

MY greater fear is that the GOP will choose yet another status-quo, big goverment neo-con in the primary, and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year.


I don't expect anything else.
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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2011, 04:37:43 pm »

MY greater fear is that the GOP will choose yet another status-quo, big goverment neo-con in the primary, and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year.


I don't expect anything else.
Even if Paul wins the primary, Congress is still full of "status-quo, big goverment neo-con". "and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year."

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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2011, 04:56:57 pm »

MY greater fear is that the GOP will choose yet another status-quo, big goverment neo-con in the primary, and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year.


I don't expect anything else.
Even if Paul wins the primary, Congress is still full of "status-quo, big goverment neo-con". "and it won't even MATTER which party wins next year."



Yes it is true that one man cannot completely "fix" the mess that is the current government.
However, that one office Can issue a series of signing statements that can remove or nullify MUCH of what has been done in the same manner for the last fifty years. The last "signing statement" would be the one removing the "signing statement" function from the office holder ad infinitum.

Also as "Commander in Chief" the troops overseas could all be "reassigned" and then "mustered out" of the standing army that our founding generation were so vociferously Against.


There are good things that COULD be accomplished IF the office holder is truly a minarchist and not just another brand of bankstah statist dupe.
Which I don't think Dr Paul is BUT I don't KNOW that for a fact.

The biggest problem is that I honestly don't think that Dr Paul has a chance to win and he is unfortunately getting tired of trying. [or so it seems]
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Re: Oath Keepers What We are Not List
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2011, 05:02:02 pm »

From the comments thread under the video on Facebook:

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THEY HAVE UNTIL AUGUST 2ND, 2011 TO ENDICT AND ARREST OBAMA FOR TREASON AND IF THEY DON'T WE MARCH--AND TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY---IT'S UP TO THEM IF IT'S PEACEFUL OR NOT!!

No, Oath Keepers will NOT support your march.  We support all LEGAL means of removing officials from office, including impeachments, criminal indictments, etc.  But we will NOT demand that these things happen "or else." 

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Well said Klapton.
Allow me to reiterate your statement, to reinforce it, if you will.

No, Oath Keepers will NOT support your march.

We, as Oath Keepers, do NOT demand that things happen "or else."
Questions? PM me.
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2011, 05:03:22 pm »

 2012 may be the last and final chance to turn this around. But then again it is probably not possible anyway.

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2011/07/19/more-proof-the-republipigs-are-not-serious-about-controlling-the-deficit-either/
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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2011, 05:24:10 pm »

2012 may be the last and final chance to turn this around. But then again it is probably not possible anyway.

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2011/07/19/more-proof-the-republipigs-are-not-serious-about-controlling-the-deficit-either/

Stewart delivered a similar message to a GOP gathering in 2010:

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So, I’m going to close with just this one thought:

This is your last chance.


http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2010/10/07/a-warning-to-republicans-speech-of-oath-keepers-founder-stewart-rhodes-to-the-clark-county-nevada-republican-party/?cp=4
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