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Author Topic: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers  (Read 26697 times)

oxi

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2009, 01:21:48 pm »

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Oath Keepers is not a "threat" [your word] to anyone or anything. Oath Keepers does not "threaten" [your word] anything.


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You can either get that into your head and act accordingly here, or I'm going to personally take away your privilege to post at TMM or at Oath Keepers. Got it? Get it or be gone. Your call. You've been warned.

Wow, you just threatened me, you accuse others of threats yet its ok for you to issue them?  Double standard just like U.S. foreign policy.  

I guess the word "organize" is like the word "terrorism" with the U.S. government to you guys...

Your fear of the U.S. government coming and supposedly shutting down the site is a sign of weakness and that the federal government has already won the battle and the war and you know it.  We are not the PRC (China) where they routinly shut down sites but we are getting there soon...



  




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your own fear-driven campaign


And what about yours with your threats to ban or take away posting priveledges to shut down your opposition and opposing opinions to your personal cause?


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Oath Keepers is not threatening the government

With a title of "Militia" and pictures of the Revolutionary War fighting the Brits for freedom, hmmm I guess their is a hidden message now isn't there?  If your about peace why haven't you aligned with Greenpeace, United Nations or other peace loving groups?  Why so much talk of guns and the 2nd Amendement in here?  People with guns are a threat to the establishment you know...

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all law enforcement and military personnel to keep their legally-required oath to the Constitution. Oath Keepers is in the bosom of the Federal government and is no threat to the Federal government - we only advise our troops and LEOs to honor that oath which the Federal government requires of them when they enlist or join.


That would be defending the Constitution from domestic enemies right?  And how will you do that?  With a paper defense?  Educating is fine but it will not win over Washignton...

Your from the military, explain to me how defending the Constitution without weapons from a determined enemy with weapons will be achieved?  You can have all the education you want and an oath to respect the Constitution but when the feds arrive loaded with weapons, what will you do?  The Constitution has been eroded severly under Bush and now Obama so soon who will care about it is the likely outcome...

Washignton serves Washignton, they do not care about us except hand over their tax revenue and sons and daughters to die for the name of oil and imperialism dominance...  

As the economy gets worse over time, things will move rapidly, will you be ready with your paper defense or will you just go into hiding to be found some day by the masters?



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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2009, 01:22:25 pm »

Sounds like a woefully ignorant wannabee trying unsuccessfully to start a coup d etat in a family gathering. Sorry, we won't bite, Agent O-X-1.  :laugh:
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2009, 01:34:07 pm »

While in most cases no matter how belligerent someone is, I don't want a person to be banned, however in this instance, when Oathkeepers are trying to stick to the straight and narrow as far as why they were formed and what the purpose of their being is, then people with their own agendas that can make the Oathkeepers get a "bad rap" (for want of a better word) and that is harmful to OK as a whole, and because of that, as Johnny Cash would say, people need to "walk the line". There is a great deal of interest, investigation, and more than a little media coverage and we need to maintain and stick by the rules we have set for ourselved, and those that can't do so need to be made unable to continue to speak AS an Oathkeeper in any capacity at all, and that includes online. I am pretty new to this myself, but I have really grasped a hold of how damn NECESSARY the Oathkeepers are, and for that very reason we need to make sure that all members understand our purpose and standards.

This a forum where you can speak various thoughts and opinions, this is not the original OK site, stop confusing the two...

Now if OK took eveything from their forum as official and on their main site, then one would question... 

Forums are usually full of debates and arguments, hence the word "forum" a gathering to share anything and everything...

Your fear and others of your own government has brainwashed you guys to assume a forum is a threat to the establishment... I tend to laugh at that...

I am sure at Fort Meade their is a database (one of millions) about OK and their members, you cannot ride and hide from them, they keep track of everything you do these days unless you do not live with power, have a car, own property, drivers liscense, Social Security Card, phone number, cell phone, Internet access, which most of you possess, so I doubt a little forum will send their troops marching...

What makes this forum so special that any talk against the government will ban someone?  That kind of talk is just about everywhere if not on most forums.  Nobody trusts the federal government anymore and many people like myself are getting ticked off to Washignton's bullcrap policies and raping of us all, why fear that?
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2009, 01:39:10 pm »

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woefully ignorant

Ignorant are the ones that simply bend over and take whatever the government tells them... complain and whine all you want but I see nothing changing the ways things are conducted out of Washignton...

That's because nobody cares and they seek the status quo...
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #34 on: August 16, 2009, 01:44:33 pm »

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Quote Elias ....
"Oath Keepers is an educational organization which admonishes all law enforcement and military personnel to keep their legally-required oath to the Constitution."

I  WILL be borrowing that line my friend .... just to let you know in advance.   :rolleyes:
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2009, 01:55:58 pm »

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woefully ignorant


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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2009, 05:23:14 pm »

Oath Keepers is presently under a focused beam of national attention. Anyone attempting here or at Oath Keepers national site or Oath Keepers state sites to provoke comments which would indicate a divergence from Oath Keepers' declared mission statement will meet with whatever moderation we deem necessary.

I did warn oxi to cease with his provocations. I see that my warning went unheeded. I do not think he'll mistake what I've done.

I have just removed oxi's privilege of posting at TMM for 14 days. Because his offenses have happened primarily at this Partner Site forum for Oath Keepers, I did not consult with TMM Administration before doing this.

Salute!
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2009, 05:31:54 pm »

You Mods and Admins have the patients of saints.
Thanks for all your work.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2009, 06:25:56 pm »

You Mods and Admins have the patients of saints.
Thanks for all your work.


You're welcome, socalserf. And thank you for being an excellent member here. I appreciate your contributions here.

Salute!
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2009, 03:31:00 pm »

Egads, the rhetoric in that article in the OP is so thick I could only get through half of it. What would that author do without his adjectives? Pugnacious... conspiracy-minded... gee, if you took his adjectives away you might have a halfway decent article.

Good call on the temp Oxi ban.  I've been wondering if he wasn't a plant of some sort to get the board shut down. It seems like he's consistently egging people on, *trying* to get them to say something that could be used for that purpose.

I can't be an Oath Keeper (never been in the military or law enforcement) but I support everything you guys stand for.

Any idea how a police station would react to someone bringing in a stack of Oath Keeper flyers outlining the ten promises and asking if they can be hung up around the station and a stack left by the duty desk?
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2009, 04:19:10 pm »

I can't be an Oath Keeper (never been in the military or law enforcement) but I support everything you guys stand for.

Our message is directed at those who have taken the Oath as a requirement of their profession, but there is nothing stopping any citizen from taking an Oath. In fact, every time you have said the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, you have taken an Oath to the Constitutional Republic, for which it stands.

You can be an Oath Keeper in two easy* steps.

1. Take the Oath to the Constitution.
2. Honor your Oath.

*Taking the Oath is easy. Honoring it may prove more difficult. That will require educating yourself on our Founding documents and speaking out in support and defense of the Constitution. You may encounter opposition and end up on a terrorist watch list.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2009, 09:09:20 pm »


Well said CorbinKale.

If you are not careful you will wind the Oath Keeper master of the understatement.
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Truly said this is ...
"Taking the Oath is easy. Honoring it may prove more difficult. "

Depending on the reception at the police station receptionist it can be painless or ... well ... pack a toothbrush used to be the caution BUT now-a-days they don't let you keep your toothbrush.

While a pile of brochures will get the word out.  Having someone standing beside them ready to answer questions has a more lasting effect.
One on one is still the best way to spread a message.

Best, I think, would be to approach One Peace Officer and introduce him to Oath Keepers.
Keep in touch with him and have him place the brochures in the station house for you.

Still and all IF they will let you use the space PLEASE do put them out and Thank You.

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2009, 11:34:59 am »

I think Oxi clean failed to understand we uphold our oath as voluntarily as we took it.  Nothing was forced upon us we are just fulfilling our oaths.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2009, 02:32:21 pm »

Yep.

I personally think he is/was an agent provocateur sent to try to stir up threats of violence against specific people and promises of meetings for "planning" and such.
Which are [in order of appearance]  terroristic threats and conspiracy to commit sedition.  Then he could have the Fed Gov [his "handlers" break bad on our home server and scoop up all of our info and such.

It doesn't make any sense that a person with his apparent vocabulary wouldn't understand our mission and our goals after reading them and being reminded of them what ? seven or eight times ?
It is like he was conditioned to Not Hear those sentences.

I think we should flush the POS and be done with it.
Just in case anyone wanted to know MY opinion. 

:rolleyes:

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2009, 10:35:15 am »

Well, so this is my first post around here and at the risk of being accused of being a replacement account for that other guy...

I agree the guy was being a bonehead if for no other reason than it was clear people were not looking to discuss what he was discussing.

But at the same time it seems strange that there is a need for so much fear about our Government just for asking people to support an oath they took.
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