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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2009, 03:51:13 pm »

Good point, hermit.  The SPLC and their ilk enjoy collecting money from fear ("they're all against us, so you'd better send money quick!").  Sort of like the government. . . .
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #91 on: October 28, 2009, 02:49:54 pm »

Rob Waters, SPLC, keeps stirring the pot over at AlterNet.

Right-Wing Extremist Group on Active Military Duty?
By Rob Waters, Southern Poverty Law Center. Posted October 26, 2009.

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“I’m not accusing Stewart Rhodes or any member of his group of being Timothy McVeigh or a future Timothy McVeigh. But these kinds of conspiracy theories are what drive a small number of people to criminal violence. … What’s troubling about Oath Keepers is the idea that men and women armed and ordered to protect the public in this country are clearly being drawn into a world of false conspiracy theory.”

Rhodes and Potok also faced off last night on MSNBC’s “Hardball with Chris Matthews.”

And how does the Pentagon feel about Oath Keepers? “I don’t have a formal assessment of Oath Keepers for you,” Melnyk, the Pentagon spokesman, said in an E-mail. He noted that it is “a fairly new group” and said the Defense Department would defer to the judgment of the Department of Justice and the FBI. “Certainly if they were on an FBI list of gangs or groups espousing hate, DoD would find this a compelling reason for prohibiting membership.”

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #92 on: October 28, 2009, 03:21:51 pm »

Hee hee.  Had to giggle over the fact that the Rhodes-Matthews discussion on Hardball was mentioned, but absolutely no detail was provided.  Of course, they wouldn't want Stewart's "thrill up your leg" comment to be divulged to the liberal public; then some of them might get the idea that Matthews and Potok may be seriously misled.

"False conspiracy theory"?  Potok's got his own version of conspiracy theory:  that anyone who does not do his bidding is conspiring against him.  He espouses that viewpoint consistently.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2009, 07:36:46 am »

"Americans, in particular law enforcement officers, need to take the dangers it presents seriously. That is equally true for the politicians, pundits and preachers who, through pandering or ignorance, abet the growth of a movement marked by a proven predilection for violence."  (I cut and paste directly from the last paragraph on the 1st page from the link you put up on original post)

That Quote had me on the floor laughing in tears!  They are talking about the police and military in the government, and a "Known Prediliection for Violence".  Whoever was writing obviously did not realize the very people he is saying should quell the alleged threat are likely to be oath takers/ keepers and aren't a threat.  They are not ACTORS, they are simply following the law.  The second sentance is not about abeting.  The second sentance is probably the movement he is ranting about.

How do you get the possible criminals to police themselves............

The article, in this single passage, shows that we have a frothing rabid dog barking without a clue what it is barking at or about.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #94 on: November 03, 2009, 05:03:33 pm »

"Americans, in particular law enforcement officers, need to take the dangers it presents seriously. That is equally true for the politicians, pundits and preachers who, through pandering or ignorance, abet the growth of a movement marked by a proven predilection for violence."  (I cut and paste directly from the last paragraph on the 1st page from the link you put up on original post)

That Quote had me on the floor laughing in tears!  They are talking about the police and military in the government, and a "Known Prediliection for Violence".  Whoever was writing obviously did not realize the very people he is saying should quell the alleged threat are likely to be oath takers/ keepers and aren't a threat.  They are not ACTORS, they are simply following the law.  The second sentance is not about abeting.  The second sentance is probably the movement he is ranting about.

How do you get the possible criminals to police themselves............

The article, in this single passage, shows that we have a frothing rabid dog barking without a clue what it is barking at or about.

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" .... a movement marked by a proven predilection for violence."

HUH ? 

He must be referring to SPLC ... Right ?   :rolleyes:

You hit that nail dead on Rarick.  "frothing rabid dog barking without a clue what it is barking at or about."

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #95 on: November 30, 2009, 06:25:03 pm »

Said without a hint of irony...

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“I’m not accusing Stewart Rhodes or any member of his group of being Timothy McVeigh or a future Timothy McVeigh. But these kinds of conspiracy theories are what drive a small number of people to criminal violence. … What’s troubling about Oath Keepers is the idea that men and women armed and ordered to protect the public in this country are clearly being drawn into a world of false conspiracy theory.”

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #96 on: December 23, 2009, 09:42:44 am »

Said without a hint of irony...

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“ … What’s troubling about Oath Keepers is the idea that men and women armed and ordered to protect the public in this country are clearly being drawn into a world of false conspiracy theory.”

What is more troubling is that this is the way that many of the "men and women armed and ordered to protect the public" feel also.

It is, to me, mind boggling how many of those “men and women” coming to the Oath Keepers web site feel that way.   

The MSM is a powerful propaganda machine that has been and is working extremely well.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #97 on: December 24, 2009, 04:11:08 am »

no, it is the dichotomy of the USA, love the land-hate the government.  The problem is that the hate of the government has gone from that to cranky dissent, to a watchful eye, to ambivelent acceptance, to "you my daddy!".    Dads do have a problem of, some times, being overprotective and using their power to enforce that protection when it is not needed. 
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2010, 10:45:04 pm »

http://www.examiner.com/x-1417-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m2d5-Southern-Poverty-Law-Center-equates-gun-owners-with-haters

 Southern Poverty Law Center equates gun owners with haters

February 5, 6:37 AMGun Rights ExaminerDavid Codrea

A hate group masquerading as a civil rights organization continues to spread a message of intolerance and bigotry. Here's the latest from the seething haters at the Southern Poverty Law Center, from their "Hate Watch" page:

    Gun rights advocates, including some in the antigovernment “Patriot” movement for whom the specter of gun restrictions is a recurring theme, are planning to march in Washington, D.C., and some individual states on April 19.

They're referring to the Second Amendment March, an event being led by Grand Rapids Gun Rights Examiner Skip Coryell. ... <snip>...


http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/01/gun-rights-advocates-to-march-against-phantom-threat/

...Speakers scheduled for the “Second Amendment March” in D.C. include

    * Stewart Rhodes, founder of Oath Keepers, a conspiracy-minded, antigovernment organization composed mostly of active-duty police and military officers and veterans... <snip>...
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #99 on: February 06, 2010, 03:41:34 am »

Yep, frothers :rolleyes:
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« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2010, 12:33:57 am »


http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/01/gun-rights-advocates-to-march-against-phantom-threat/

I know what has the SPLC all upset. They can't answer the question, "WHY HAVEN'T THEY GOTTEN TIRED AND GONE BACK TO SLEEP?" I know the answer. We have awakened in record numbers, and we keep shaking the people closest to us. Can't go back to sleep in that situation.

The comments from the Progressives are entertaining. Being so full of hatred, yet incapable of effectively venting to the those who vex them, must cause them ulcers. I'm OK with that. :)
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #101 on: February 20, 2010, 09:34:17 am »

Howdy, Thank you so much for this posting.  My first post on this site included the fact that the Government see's much if not all of what is happening on the internet (aka Eschelon) so, thanks to this dim bulb from the SPLC, I now have infiltated "Their Web Site" and can gather intelligence on them.  Also, because of him I can further my Patriotic awakening and research on a couple of the names that "he provided" such as:  Jack McLamb and Richard Mack and dang, I didn't even know what an SPLC was.  I don't know the whole story, I only woke up about six years ago to see how the Progressives can put a spin on anything to feed to their base.  There is a good story I read once or twice and I will Change the names for this posting:  An Oath Keeper was in his field one day sowing seed.  Some of the seed fell onto good soil some seed fell into bad soil and some seed fell amongst the rocks.  This fellow that you provided is on the rocks.......they sprout but die off quickly but the seed that fell onto good soil buy the Oath Keeper will grow and flourish and will be so strong that it will choke off the weeds.  :mellow:

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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #102 on: February 20, 2010, 10:00:27 am »

Howdy, Thank you so much for this posting.  My first post on this site included the fact that the Government see's much if not all of what is happening on the internet (aka Eschelon) so, thanks to this dim bulb from the SPLC, I now have infiltated "Their Web Site" and can gather intelligence on them.  Also, because of him I can further my Patriotic awakening and research on a couple of the names that "he provided" such as:  Jack McLamb and Richard Mack and dang, I didn't even know what an SPLC was.  I don't know the whole story, I only woke up about six years ago to see how the Progressives can put a spin on anything to feed to their base.  There is a good story I read once or twice and I will Change the names for this posting:  An Oath Keeper was in his field one day sowing seed.  Some of the seed fell onto good soil some seed fell into bad soil and some seed fell amongst the rocks.  This fellow that you provided is on the rocks.......they sprout but die off quickly but the seed that fell onto good soil buy the Oath Keeper will grow and flourish and will be so strong that it will choke off the weeds.  :mellow:



It is exciting to see people "awakening."  One little food for thought...  You mentioned finding out about this from O'Reilly's show the other night.  That's great.  But the idea I'd like you to consider is that Fox is also a propaganda machine for TPTB (the powers that be).  They merely have a different target audience for their misinformation, lies, brainwashing, and distraction.

What are they trying to distract you from?

There is no Left or Right.  There is only Top and Bottom.  The Top is a VERY small group of elites who own pretty much everything, buy elections and politicians, and tell their minion politicians what to do.  We caught a very small glimpse of them with the bailout.  (Normally they prefer to not be visible to the ignorant masses.)  BOTH major political parties are beholden to these people, and care nothing for you or me (the Bottom).  We are merely worker drones who are supposed to shut up and toil for their enrichment.

This is why the Left and the Right continually argue vehemently about their pet issues that you and I care about, but will NEVER even discuss any of the following:

1)  Fiat Currency and the Federal Reserve System

2)  Fractional reserve banking

3)  The income tax

All of these things funnel wealth away from the Bottom and into the Top.  And no one dares even talk about them, except for bold people like Ron Paul, who get dismissed by their own party as nutjobs, in spite of the fact that people like him are actually the salvation of the pathetic, dying party.  Towing the line for their REAL masters is more important than doing the will of the people.  And when the will of the people rears it's ugly head, like the Tea party movement, the republican party will attempt to water it down and destroy its effectiveness.  They will pretend to agree with them about small government, etc. but they will go on with business as usual once elected.  And most of the Tea Partiers will fall for it, because they will still be concerned with the "lesser of two evils" myth and will vote for republicans in order to vote against the democrats, who they naively believe are actually DIFFERENT from republicans.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2010, 07:40:41 am »

Hello, I would like to respectfully disagree that Fox news is a Propaganda Machine.  I have seen the other News Networks that constantly pushes the Lefty's agenda.  I would say that Fox leans to Conservative values and why not?  When you see folks like Chris Mathews, Rossie O'Donnell, Janean Graffalo, John Stewart spewing their ideology it makes me very concerned about the future of this country.  It was only Fox News (Specifically Glenn Beck) who pointed out all of the Marxist folks like Van Jones, Annita Dunn, Mark Lloyd, Cass Sunstein, Valery Jarrett (who's mother worked along with William Ayer's Father), John Holderin and others our President has surrounded himself with has been an eye opener for me.  Both parties have played us far too long and was the reason I left the Republican party 6 years ago.  When News Companies Like NBC and MSNBC that are owned by companies like GE and in bed with Obama and stand to make billions at our expense how and where can you go to get real news?  I'll stick with Talk Radio and Fox for a while longer.  The Mask has been pulled off both parties and hopefully with patience and diligence Americans will get Washington back to the Constitution.
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Re: SPLC Slams Oath Keepers
« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2010, 08:10:41 am »

By all means, consume whatever media you choose.  I'm glad to hear you have your gaurd up and your BS filter in place no matter who is doing the talking.

When it comes to the mouthpieces on Fox, I'm more concerned with what their bosses do NOT let them talk about.  Here's an example of investigative reporters who got fired for refusing to lie about bovine growth hormone in milk (Monsanto):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1pKlnhvg0

Another example is questioning ANYTHING about 9-11.  Fox is just as dedicated as the other networks to the "Call them all crazy for asking and don't DARE repeat their question or expect an answer."  Even Beck who bases most of his entire show on "just asking questions" (and insinuating lots of answers) won't touch 9-11 with a 10-foot pole.  Is this because he is naive enough to believe that our government will lie to us about ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, but didn't lie to us about anything regarding 9-11? 

No, Beck and any other thinking person who has gotten past the emotional response of revulsion and incredulity, that has looked at what the government has actually told us to believe...  There are HUGE problems with their story.  Some of the things they have said are laughably stupid.  (Google "magic passport" some time.)

Now, I'm not trying to turn this into a 9-11 truther thread, and I'm DEFINITELY not trying to say I have any idea what really happened.  I'm just trying to point out that Fox, just like any other network, has VERY specific marching orders for their PERFORMERS who are paid LOTS of money to SELL ADVERTISING.  And I'm not some commie dissing the profit-motive here.  I'm just not so naive as to ignore it.  I don't blame a used car salesman for telling me this car is great.  That's his job.  I'm going to smile at him and look under the hood for myself.
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