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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2009, 06:04:48 am »

With Utah in the mix, some other factors (organized religion?) come into play, this could get really interesting.  A mormon in many ways is the epitome of prepper, it is seriously encouraged by their religion.  Given some of their church's dealing with the federal government during the civil war/ westward expansion, there is also history of a serious nature.



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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2010, 01:53:24 pm »

New Hampshire pre-file Firearms Freedom Act
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

Representative Dan Itse has pre-filed a Firearms Freedom Act in New
Hampshire as
<http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_status/bill_status.aspx?lsr=2014&sy=2010&txtsessionyear=2010&txtbillnumber=HB1285>HB
1285.

HB 1285 departs from the Montana model in that it sets criminal
penalties for any person attempting to enforce federal criminal laws
against the maker of a New Hampshire-made and retained firearm.

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2010, 03:31:23 pm »

Wow!  Some serious TEETH on that one!
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2010, 07:45:28 am »

ooooh! class B felony?!  [cue joker] They serious [/cue]  There will probably be a fair anount of looking the other way until a BATFE agent steps out of line.  Then it will get ugly.
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2010, 06:49:45 pm »

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=367511

New Hampshire proposes state sovereignty law--with a twist

January 1, 1:02 PM
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner
Kurt Hofmann

We've talked many times before (a few links are below the flag picture at the right) about the growing movement on the part of states to assert their sovereign powers as protected by the Tenth Amendment. In the context of discussions here, this comes down to states proposing (and in the cases of Montana and Tennessee, already passing) laws that would exempt firearms, ammunition, and firearms accessories manufactured in-state, and kept in-state, from federal regulation. This, as one might expect, doesn't sit well with the feds, and is being challenged. The BATFE, in the meantime, has already announced its intention of ignoring such laws. ...

...Don't call the Live Free or Die state a copycat, though--the New Hampshire bill contains a very interesting provision not (to my knowledge) seen in any of the other states' legislation.

Any official, agent, or employee of the government of the United States, or employee of a corporation providing services to the government of the United States that enforces or attempts to enforce a act, order, law, statute, rule or regulation of the government of the United States upon a personal firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that is manufactured commercially or privately in New Hampshire and that remains within the State of New Hampshire shall be guilty of a class B felony. (emphasis added) ...

...Update: Looking at the text of the bill, I see another interesting difference between New Hampshire's state sovereignty bill and those of other states. The other states' legislation--I think in every case--defer to the feds on many NFA items (although generally not suppressors--AKA "silencers"). In other words, Montana and Tennessee (and others) are not at this time challenging federal authority to regulate machine guns, large bore firearms, etc. That was one of the things that disappointed me a bit about their legislation, although I suppose there are arguments that could be made for that approach, from the tactical perspective of trying to first get the bill passed in the state legislature, and second to prevail in federal court. In New Hampshire's legislation, on the other hand, I see no such exception. Ambitious. ...<snip>...
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2010, 07:38:27 pm »

Glad to see this is getting somewhere!

But as with healthcare nullification and just about every other pro-freedom thing...I see NC nowhere on the list  :angry:
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2010, 08:01:52 pm »

Maybe it is time to begin to nail broadsides to the doors of the NC statehouse, yes?
just for entertainment, understand.
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2010, 11:15:15 pm »

Glad to see this is getting somewhere!

But as with healthcare nullification and just about every other pro-freedom thing...I see NC nowhere on the list  :angry:

This began in the head of one man. It passed in Montana because that man worked at it. It spread because he nurtured it. Gary Marbut is nobody special, yet he is the rarest of the rare. Like David and Goliath, he did what anybody COULD have done.  There is no reason for him to be rare or even unusual, yet he is.  When he is average, we have won... heck, when one out of ten are like him, we have won.

Every time one of us decides to grab the monster and just hang on to the end of the ride, we all win a little something.







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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 12:10:34 am »

The Firearms Freedom Act originated with Gary Marbut in Montana.  This NH version has some teeth in it.

http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/01/01/resist-dc-nh-legislators-look-to-nullify-federal-gun-laws/

Resist DC: NH Legislators Look to Nullify Federal Gun Laws

01. Jan, 2010 Comments (17)

by Michael Boldin

NH Legislators again raise the bar for the 10th Amendment Movement – felony charges proposed for federal agents violating gun rights in New Hampshire

live-free-or-die-nhPre-filed for the 2010 legislative session in New Hampshire, House Bill 1285 (HB1285) seeks to “exempt firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition manufactured in New Hampshire from federal law and regulation.”  ...<snip>...

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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 01:26:00 am »

Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act introduced
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

The Wyoming Firearms Freedom Act has been introduced by Rep. David
Miller as <http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2010/Introduced/HB0028.pdf>HB 28.

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 11:53:13 am »

Washington introduces Firearms Freedom Act
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

Representative Matt Shea has introduced
<http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=2709&year=2009>HB
2709, the Washington Firearms Freedom Act, I believe now the 15th
such bill to be introduced copying our Montana Firearms Freedom Act(MFFA).

In MSSA's lawsuit to validate the principles of the MFFA, we have a
preliminary pre-trial conference coming up on February 2.  U.S.
Attorney General Eric Holder and the United States (defendants in the
lawsuit) have not responded to the suit yet.

We will continue to post new information about this movement at:
http://www.FirearmsFreedomAct.com


Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 08:13:57 pm »

Alabama Firearms Freedom Act introduced
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

Alabama State Representative Mac Gipson has introduced the Alabama
Firearms Freedom Act as House Bill 48
(<http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/ViewBillsStatusACASLogin.asp?BillNumber=hb48>HB48).


http://www.FirearmsFreedomAct.com
FYI

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2010, 08:44:00 pm »

Oklahoma pre-files Firearms Freedom Act
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

Oklahoma State Representative Lewis Moore has
introduced a “Firearms Freedom Act” for the state
– it’s pre-filed for February 1, 2010 as House
Bill 2884
(<http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/2009-10bills/HB/HB2884_int.rtf>HB2884)

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2010, 09:22:50 pm »

Indiana introduces Firearms Freedom Act - 3X
 From: Gary Marbut-MSSA <mssa@mtssa.org>
 To: mssa@mtssa.org
 
Dear MSSA Friends,

Three different Indiana State Senators have introduced what appear to
be identical versions of the Indiana Firearms Freedom Act:

Senator Walker has introduced
<http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=SB&docno=0200>Senate
Bill 0200
Senator Holdman has introduced
<http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=SB&docno=0276>Senate
Bill 0276
and
Senator Waterman has introduced
<http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2010&session=1&request=getBill&doctype=SB&docno=0416>Senate
Bill 0416

This now makes 19 other states with introduced bills,
including:  Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan,
Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania,
South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, and
Wyoming.  Another 12 states are expected to introduce FFA clones
within the next few weeks.  More info at:
http://FirearmsFreedomAct.com

[And, Montana and Tennessee have passed the Firearms Freedom Act ! ]

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
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Re: Montana Firearms Freedom Act: progress across the nation
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 04:19:49 am »

Looks like everyone is definatelt filing a no confidence/ credibility complaint on the BATF boys, at the very least.   A warning shot across the bow for any gun grabbers.
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