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blue funk
« on: September 28, 2009, 11:57:38 pm »

I’m angry. 

I’m angry with the people who stole our currency and turned it into garbage.

I’m angry with those who destroyed our families

I’m angry with those who took over the media.

I’m angry with those who pirated the idea of an education.

I’m angry with those who entice our young into their indoctrination paths.

I’m angry with the ones who convinced generous, kind, altruistic individuals to indoctrinate our young.

I’m angry with the destruction of the value of dollar-denominated savings, making the trap of debt the smarter choice.

I’m angry with the lies coming out of the world’s most quoted mouths.

I’m angry with the poverty and government dependency that awaits my neighbors, family and friends.

I’m angry because my wife’s boys value things but don’t value their mom, yet it is not their fault or her fault but the culture they grew up in.

I’m angry because they keep getting away with the insanity of segregating kids by age to indoctrinate them.

I’m angry because they toss children into busses by age group for 8 hours a week riding away from their neighborhoods and family to a place where they can be herded daily whenever a bell orders them to move.

I’m angry because the revenooers transmogrified in multiple iterations into the BATF as rogue jackbooted thugs successfully changed missions so their agency could continue to employ them assaulting honest entrepreneurial people delivering products that other people want.

I’m angry because nobody has yet been punished for WACO, Ruby Ridge, Vietnam, Iran, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, bombing Europe, sewing carpet bombs all over Arabia ...

I’m angry because I can’t turn on the radio without getting angry at some lying sack of sh.. making up stories that the listeners all believe.

I’m angry because the rulers who would mandate dependency by all are targeting my chickens and my garden for destruction by jackbooted thugs.

Dang. It’s hard to be happy with my beautiful wife, my beautiful home, my well-equipped shop, my farmhouse in the country, my lovely trombones, my garden, my chickens, a good job and even the fact I have so much good food that I have to think about limiting my intake to keep my tummy from poking out further than I would like.

I HATE BULLIES.  Repeatedly throughout my life I have used my head and risked my body to insure that bullies LOSE. 

I am incredibly angry that I can’t touch these guys that set this all up for their own amusement, and that I know I never will.
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gaurdduck

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Re: blue funk
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2009, 02:27:51 am »

Agreed.
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Re: blue funk
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2009, 07:46:04 am »

I too stay angry at all those examples of perversity in our society.
You have done something positive for yourself and your family with that anger.
Anger is a good thing to feel when you do something positive with it. Something to reverse the cause and effect of it. Many are catatonic and frozen with their anger turned into apathy..literally Whipped into submission.
Anger means you're NOT there, probably never will get there, because you're doing something with that anger.
The problem is that my anger recycles over and over these days.
What I chose to do with it, is my choice. So far, it's all been converted into positive kinetic energy to get my family in preparedness to survive.


BTW, We are all responsible for this current state of disrepair in our society. We allowed this current level of affairs to trickle into our lives over a period of decades. We can now take up the responsibility and perform the needed positive actions to reverse them all as well.

Kiss your wife, and family, and the beautiful farmstead you have worked so hard to procure. It will remind you that you will NOT allow anyone to cross that boundary line in the sand which you have drawn and earned to call your own.

Now, we all collectively as citizens of this great nation, need to draw that boundary line with our country.
I want my country back.


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Re: blue funk
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 11:52:42 am »

Collectively?

No.

We as individuals need to each draw our own lines in the sand and not compromise just to please others.

My lines have been drawn, and I haven't moved 'em, nor am I gonna.
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Re: blue funk
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 02:01:17 pm »

If you think that things are bad now wait a couple of years.

I have very little optimism for this nation.

There is hope for resilient communities of strong and able individuals though.

Get strong, get fit, become able, and get ready, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
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suijurisfreeman

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Re: blue funk
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 03:23:51 pm »

"Now, we all collectively as citizens of this great nation . . ."

  :huh:  Who are all these "we" citizens?  Who actually is a citizen of the United States?  Exactly what makes one a citizen of the United States?  How does one become a citizen of the United States? 
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Re: blue funk
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 04:45:49 pm »

"Now, we all collectively as citizens of this great nation . . ."

  :huh:  Who are all these "we" citizens?  Who actually is a citizen of the United States?  Exactly what makes one a citizen of the United States?  How does one become a citizen of the United States? 

Citizenry: Those who, under the Constitution and laws of the United States, or of a particular community or of a foreign country, owe allegiance and are entitled to the enjoyment of all Civil Rights that Accrue to those who qualify for that status.

Neither the United States nor a state is a citizen for purposes of diversity of citizen-ship, a phrase that is used in regard to the jurisdiction of the federal courts, which—under Article III, Section 2, of the Constitution—empowers those courts to hear and decide cases between citizens of different states. Municipalities and other local governments, however, are deemed to be citizens.

The term citizen in Article III of the Constitution, which established the federal judiciary, includes corporations; therefore, suits concerning corporations involve citizens for federal jurisdictional purposes. The term citizen, however, as defined by the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments, does not encompass either corporations or Aliens. Neither corporations nor aliens receive the protection of the Privileges and Immunities Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment and Article IV, as those clauses protect only citizens.

Aliens, however, are considered to be "persons" for the purposes of the due process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments and the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. In the 1982 case of Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 102 S. Ct. 2382, 72 L. Ed. 2d 786, the U.S. Supreme Court recognized that even illegal aliens are "persons" within the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment for purposes of public education. A corporation is also deemed to be a citizen for certain purposes. It is a citizen of the United States and of the state under whose laws it was organized. A particular state, commonly Delaware, is selected for incorporation because that state charges lower taxes and its laws favor businesses. Once the company incorporates in the designated state, it is a citizen of that state, but it can apply in any other state for authority to do business there.

The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution provides:" All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside…."The impor tant right of citizenship, whether for native-born or naturalized citizens, cannot be divested, whether as punishment for a crime or for any other reason, by the states or the federal government, including their agencies and officials (see also Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253, 87 S. Ct. 1660, 18 L. Ed. 2d 757 [1967]). American citizenship can be relinquished, but it cannot be taken away unless it was procured through Fraud or any other unlawful action.

The Fourteenth Amendment, through the inclusion of the phrase "all persons," was specifically enacted in 1868 specifically to grant citizenship to former slaves. Since 1924, it has been judicially interpreted to include American Indians. U.S. citizenship does not divest an Indian of tribal citizenship but, rather, coexists with it.

The Fourteenth Amendment does not, however, make children who are born within the territory of the United States of foreign ambassadors, consuls, and military officers American citizens. Such children derive their citizenship from their parents.

Ordinarily, a person who is in a country other than the one of which he or she is a citizen owes to that country a type of "temporary allegiance," which essentially is a respect for the laws of the host country, although it is not as substantial as the loyalty demanded of citizens. It requires that an alien observe the laws of the country and, in some countries, even serve in the military; it ensures the protection of the alien by the laws of the country.

Ambassadors, consuls, and military officers, however, owe no allegiance to the foreign country where they are assigned, and their children are not "born within the allegiance" of a foreign country in which they serve.
Citizen of a State

The Fourteenth Amendment provides that American citizens are also citizens "of the state wherein they reside," but U.S. citizenship does not necessitate residence in a particular state.

Persons living abroad, for example, are citizens of the United States but not of any state.

One significant legal disadvantage exists for a person who is not a citizen of a state. The Constitution provides that federal courts can hear "Controversies … between Citizens of different States." The phrase "Citizens of different States" includes citizens of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands of the United States, and Guam. Puerto Rico is in the First Circuit, the Virgin Islands are in the Third Circuit, and Guam, Alaska, and Hawaii are in the Ninth Circuit. A person who is not a resident of a state or designated area, even if he or she is a U.S. citizen, cannot satisfy the diversity of citizenship requirement and therefore cannot bring an action under the Diversity Clause in a federal court.
American Citizenship

U.S. citizenship is attained either by birth or by naturalization, the legal procedure that a qualified person must satisfy in order to be accepted as a citizen.

Federal law provides that those who are born in any of the 50 states, Puerto Rico, the former Panama Canal Zone, the Virgin Islands of the United States, and Guam are all native-born citizens, including the children of an American Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or any other tribal member.

Persons born in outlying possessions of the United States, such as Wake Island or Midway Island, and their children are called nationals. They owe allegiance to the United States and enjoy some rights. The term national denotes everyone who owes allegiance to the country, including citizens, but not every national possesses all of the rights of a citizen.

A person born beyond the geographical boundaries of the United States and its outlying possessions, of parents who are both U.S. citizens, is a national and a citizen of the United States at birth if one parent had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the birth of such person. If only one parent is a citizen and the other is a national—but not a citizen—the parent who is a citizen must have been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of the child in order for the child to be a national and a citizen of the United States at birth.

A person born out of wedlock in a foreign country acquires at birth American citizenship if the mother was a citizen at the time of such person's birth and had formerly been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year preceding the birth.
Derivative Citizenship

A child born in a foreign country can become a U.S. citizen if his or her parents become naturalized U.S. citizens. If the child is brought to the United States before becoming an adult, and the child's parents become citizens, then the child is entitled to claim U.S. citizenship when he or she becomes an adult. Although his or her birth certificate will still reflect a foreign-born status, a person in this situation can obtain a certificate of nationality by filing an application with the Secretary of State.
Rights of U.S. Citizens

Everyone within the jurisdiction of the United States is protected by most of the guarantees and safeguards of the Constitution. A U.S. citizen traveling abroad retains the protection of the United States. If property of an individual is stolen while he or she is in a foreign country, the United States consul can lend him or her money to return to the United States. U.S. citizens, of course, must observe and obey the laws of other countries while they are visiting, but if a U.S. citizen is arrested, a representative from the U.S. ambassador's office can visit him or her and inform the foreign government that the treatment of the U.S. citizen will be scrutinized.

Unlike citizens of other countries, U.S. citizens are entitled to enter into, and to depart from, the United States, and to obtain a passport from the government. The passport certifies to foreign nations that its holder is entitled to all of the protection afforded by the U.S. government. The right to enter and leave the United States is so fundamental, however, that a citizen cannot be prevented from coming into the United States merely because he or she has no passport. Even if someone departs from the country without obtaining a passport, knowing that he or she should have done so, he or she must be permitted to enter upon returning if a birth certificate or expired passport is presented, or if the person takes an oath as to his or her citizenship.

However, the U.S. government can prohibit its citizens from traveling in designated countries

that are hostile to the U.S. and perilous to U.S. citizens. The passport of a person who ignores these restrictions can be revoked, and such a traveler can be denied protection by the government.

A naturalized citizen has all of the rights of a native-born U.S. citizen but one: He or she can never be president of the United States. Article II of the Constitution provides: "No person except a natural-born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
Obligations of Citizenship

The most fundamental duty of a citizen is to be loyal to the United States. Allegiance is not an unquestioning acceptance, but a general faith in the U.S. system. In times of national emergency, citizens can be required to defend the country, through military service or alternative service such as employment in a hospital.

Issues surrounding the duties of citizens often arise in the same context as the freedoms enjoyed by citizens of the United States. In one of his more famous speeches, The Duties of American Citizenship, President Theodore Roosevelt said, "It ought to be axiomatic in this country that every man must devote a reasonable share of his time to doing his duty in the Political life of the community. No man has the right to shirk his political duties under whatever plea of pleasure or business. …"

In the wake of the September 11th Attacks in 2001, the case against one American citizen, John Philip Walker Lindh, demonstrated the attitude that the U.S. government takes against nationals who breach their duty of citizenship. Lindh, also known by the Islamic names Suleyman al-Faris and Abdul Hamid, as well as the nickname "the American Taliban," converted to Islam in 1997. After visiting such countries as Yemen and Pakistan to study Islam at various times from 1997 to 2000, Lindh began training with the terrorist organization al-Qaeda in 2001. Both before and after the terrorist attacks in September 2001, Lindh served the Taliban regime of Afghanistan in an ongoing conflict with the Northern Alliance in northeastern Afghanistan. Lindh was captured by Northern Alliance groups in November 2001. He was eventually turned over to the U.S. military, who returned him to the United States on January 23, 2002.

In the case of United States v. Lindh, 198 F. Supp. 2d 739 (E.D.Va. 2002), Lindh was indicted on ten criminal charges, including conspiracy to murder U.S. nationals, contributing to and conspiring to contribute to al-Qaeda, and using and carrying firearms and other destructive devices during crimes of violence. Lindh pled guilty in July 2002 to a count of supplying services to the Taliban government and received a 20-year sentence.

"We" citizens.
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Re: blue funk
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 07:02:23 pm »

" American citizenship can be relinquished, but it cannot be taken away unless it was procured through Fraud or any other unlawful action."

Can American citizenship be forced upon one because they were born within the geographical area known as the United States?  Whatever happened to "governements are instituted among men deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed."  Can one be compelled against their will to become a member of the body politic known as the United States of America?

If so, that's something that just might make me mad!

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Re: blue funk
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 07:53:22 pm »

Okay,  Add it to the above "angry" list.
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Re: blue funk
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 08:03:19 pm »

If one can be forced through birth to be a U.S. citizen it kinda reminds me of the movie Braveheart.  The Grand Inquisitor tells Mel Gibson to ask for the King's mercy, Gibson tells him that he never swore an oath of allegiance to the King.  The Grand Inquisitor tells Gibson that he nevertheless is his King -- kiss the ring!  Now that really pisses me off!
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 09:45:56 pm »

I swore an oath of allegiance to Almighty God and to obey the Original Constitution and only the original Constitution.
I will not bow to anyone but God Almighty and I will not obey anyone or thing other then God and what is right in his sight. I believe that the Constitution is the one document that God would approve of seeings he gave us free will.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 06:04:03 am »

I swore an oath of allegiance to Almighty God and to obey the Original Constitution and only the original Constitution.
I will not bow to anyone but God Almighty and I will not obey anyone or thing other then God and what is right in his sight. I believe that the Constitution is the one document that God would approve of seeings he gave us free will.

When you say "the original Constitution", do you mean the Constitution of 1787 as originally drafted and ratified?  If I remember correctly the "original Constitution" didn't have the Bill of Rights -- it was added in the form of the first ten ammendments.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 07:03:29 am »

[Jest]...
surely you mean the first 10 "commandments" of the newly forming Government?!
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 08:12:21 am »

I am a sovereign individual. I do not "owe" any allegiance to anyone or anything except to God and my own life, my integrity and honor as a non-aggressor. I "owe" only what I have promised and any debt (money or service) I have freely agreed to pay.

I can most certainly never be forced to fealty or reverence for any involuntary government- or any of their works, such as this "constitution."

They just might kill my body, but they can never capture my soul.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 10:46:54 am »

When you say "the original Constitution", do you mean the Constitution of 1787 as originally drafted and ratified? If I remember correctly the "original Constitution" didn't have the Bill of Rights -- it was added in the form of the first ten amendments.
Yes I meant the first one with the bill of rights.

I am a sovereign individual. I do not "owe" any allegiance to anyone or anything except to God and my own life, my integrity and honor as a non-aggressor. I "owe" only what I have promised and any debt (money or service) I have freely agreed to pay.

I can most certainly never be forced to fealty or reverence for any involuntary government- or any of their works, such as this "constitution."

They just might kill my body, but they can never capture my soul.
I to did not owe any allegiance to anyone or anything except to God and my own life until I decided to make and Oath to uphold the Constitution. When I said my Oath to God about that said document I stated "I   .........  Swear to defend the Constitution of the United States of America as it was written with only the first ten amendments against all enemies foreign and domestic so help me God." So by doing this of my own free will and as a free person in mind, spirit, and body owning only those things that man can not steal from me I must obey my Oaths. I will be true to my God and word as each of you might be true to what you believe in and promise.
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God protect my little girl soldier as she does what she thinks is right. Keep her safe in the monthes to come as she prepares to go over seas at the will of teptb please make sure that he that sends them odes his part by making sure they have all the equipment and food they need. AMEN.
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