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« on: October 31, 2009, 10:04:26 pm »

A nearly irresistible opportunity for a thread jack was avoided by this thread hop. 

That is a problem for sure. When I sold my business my "gold watch for 22 years of dedicated service" was a good trombone and a good rifle. I'd never had either. I was just plain lucky on the trombone, but the rifle was more that I had a serious rifleman for a friend. Both turned out to be just what I wanted.

Which trombone did you get, slideman? I'm still playing the King 3B with an F-attachment that I bought in high school in 1972. Has a few dents, and the slide needs water spray more often than it used to, but it still sounds good.

The 3B is a highly-regarded horn, particularly the older ones. I'm betting yours will be hard to improve on other than treating yourself to an appointment with The Slide Doctor. The dents are character, but a good slide is fundamental. I suspect you will be surprised how good it can be and how affordable top-of-the-line slide action is.

Apparently there is a shockingly wide range of quality in trombones, and other brass instruments.  Each and every one has such a distinct personality that good musicians can play dozens of them before finding one satisfactory... or find none satisfactory.  The standard mantra at the Trombone Forum is that you cannot know without playing the individual horn. Fortunately I didn't know this when I ordered mine... well, either that or I am easily pleased.  Doesn't much matter, does it?  I either got lucky or don't know what I'm missing.

I had a good idea what "voice" I wanted to have, read a bunch and ordered a Conn 88HCL with .525 upper and .547 lower thinking it might play more like a medium bore rather than sucking the wind out of this non-serious returning trombonist.  I read good reviews of this horn, this particular valve, decided on the livelier 'rose brass" bell and my special touch, the rare dual bore option.  I ordered it from the local music shop who came quite close to the best Internet price I saw. My first at bat was a home run.

It is gorgeous to my ears, which of course, are the only ones that really matter... the rest of the audience can leave... I can't.  Turns out others like the sound. I've played some with a community band, a combo I had for a year, a couple of church groups, but mostly my version of the karaoke trombone... my little collection of Jamie Aebersold Play-A-Longs.

Through his Jazzbooks site/business, I recently found some his Minus One series that are even more fun than the Play-A-Longs as they are played like a stage band or studio band would actually play it, but the lead part is simply removed, waiting for you (me actually) to read the part.  Real cool with the stereo cranked up.
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Re: making music
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 03:48:42 pm »

Cool, Slideman. It's a pleasure to hear of
someone just enjoying.
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Re: making music
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 01:43:11 pm »


In a story a hair longer than I should share here, I leapt out of my lifetime trombone rut to embrace the bass.

Worse (?) I will be strumming my stuff in a bluegrass fashion - a style I haven't even liked much before.

This is what they play around here.
They are wonderful people and good musicians.
I have been enjoying both for over a month.
Now I am getting off the couch and into the circle.

Making music is so much better than the alternative - that is, not making music.

The whole story: Conner Combo

NO, I will not be changing my name, nor forsaking my first love.
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Re: making music
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 08:18:30 am »

Jumping out of music styles is, IMO, one of the best things one can do to re-inspire a love and engagement of music.  Congratulations, and what a beautiful lady you have there!
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Re: making music
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 08:32:24 pm »

Yeah. That's about as close to dancing as I like to get.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 10:51:04 pm »

Did you name her? :)
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Re: making music
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2014, 11:36:23 am »

Congratulations on the new instrument.
One of the lovely things about most string things
is that the can play most any genre.

Making music, even if badly, is tonic for the soul.
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Re: making music
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 09:05:27 pm »

The bass and I have been getting along handsomely. Everyone around, including me, is impressed at how easily it is coming to me.  In two months of jamming with the locals every Thursday, I am starting to get pretty comfortable and confident. 

Last Thursday I was really throwing a lot of notes into the mix, smokin' the fingerboard for over two hours ...
THEN BOTH HANDS CRAMPED UP.
Ouch. Shut Down.
Hands sore for four days.

This is a serious problem... urgent... crisis.
I ordered new, softer strings.  They arrived along with installation instructions AND instructions for modifying the bridge to bring the string height down.

It was a bit scary, but I pulled the whole thing off today... and love the change.
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Re: making music
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2015, 06:46:17 am »

Some thing that helps my hands is to warm them up before playing.
A bag of rice heated in the microwave is ideal.
After playing I run very cold water over them.
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Re: making music
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 12:58:52 pm »

Recent events sent me hunting for a thread on self-inflicted music. Wow, a lot of notes have passed since this one was updated... and many changes, most of them in the last couple of weeks.  The extended family arrived in our small burg with a couple of instrument-less musicians and a couple potential beginners.  Mrs Sailor and I have been shopping the WWW and setting up our family, or community band. I have been here 3.5 years with no success at playing my horn with other musicians in my area. I now have some willing victims - if I just put instruments in their hands.

The Internet is a dangerous place. With all this shopping, I tripped over a potentially awesome vintage trombone and accidentally won the auction for $68 ... making it my 4th trombone for my personal use!  My Yamaha will be at the family band HQ. My favorite retirement-treat Conn 88 and the 1958 Conn 6 are hanging out for regular use.  I may have to build a third hanger, depending on how I feel about the 65-year-old newcomer once it arrives and I service it.


I will post here if my dream gets real... be positive, WHEN my dream becomes reality.

I am, by the way, still playing the upright bass with the weekly bluegrass jam. I really enjoy the bass, but it merely makes bluegrass interesting ... not exciting. My skill level on the bass has grown, but I still almost never take a solo.  If I really loved it, I would be practicing and much better than I am. I merely enjoy it, but that is a good thing.
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Re: making music
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 01:31:33 pm »

I've been playing my trombone since I moved to Vermont, first with a American Legion marching/concert band, then, this past summer, with a more accomplished concert band. I've also been singing with the local 50-member choir, with an amazing director.
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Re: making music
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 12:21:43 pm »

that's really nice

I am like this thread and thank you very much.
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Re: making music
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 12:06:35 am »

Tonight we went North to the Hamilton bandshell for a performance of the Missoula Trombone Choir. Lovely music, awesome instruments and some nice chatting with fellow trombonists.

I offered to take my 14-year-old beginning trombone student along, but instead inspired his whole family to join us in the bleachers (which was definitely my preference). 

I told his mom and dad, my friends, that they had enough family to put together a trombone choir. Mom said they were one short, but I raised my hand and reminded her I figured to have a role in it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2017, 05:58:31 am »

A trombone choir. Neat idea. Maybe I should make it so here in southern Vermont.

Today, though, I play with the Washington County Band, a pretty-good concert band that plays in the summer. First choir rehearsal is in a week, but I'll be in Tennessee, visiting my son.
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Re: making music
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2017, 08:35:48 am »

In a flash of breakthrough thinking, I conjured up a scheme for assembling a band in the backwoods.

Over the last few years I have taught/led/facilitated a number of classes through the local Adult Ed program. They send mailers out to every postal customer in the area ... thousands. The classes are cheap and widely varied. My Growing Without Pests Or Pesticides was a big hit. I have taught radio overviews and segued into study groups resulting in over a dozen ham licenses.

My brainstorm was to take advantage of the mailer and school facilities to create a band that would welcome my trombone.  I posted fliers all over Grangeville, Idaho attempting to re-invigorate an big band I could play 3rd trombone in, but ended up one of two lead instruments in a small jazz combo.  That was good. If this ends up like that, I'll be happy.

Here is the current draft of my 'class' offering:

Bitterroot Blues Band
Blues begat country. Rock came from blues. Swing, Dixieland and jazz also evolved from the blues. Blues is a familiar form of music to most of us, even if we don't know it.

The best part of music is making it; playing your own instrument.  That is what we will be doing Saturday evenings this semester. Our foundation will be the blues, but we will drift into one or more of its offspring.

Experienced performing musicians are welcome as are beginners and everyone in between. Dust off that instrument of yours and give it some outings. We will play, learn, share and make music for the sheer joy of it.

Participants will be expected to pay for copying expenses to build their own books. None of the original sets of sheet music will go home with you.

Though scheduled for one hour every Saturday, we may run over if we are having too much fun, and some absences are fine.
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