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« on: January 06, 2010, 04:41:31 pm »

See it in RealD 3D - it's fun.  Nevermind the critics that would politicize a rock sitting in the road ("It's racist!" - from the left, "It's eco-communist!" - from the right).  Other versions are IMAX 3D, Digital 3D, and 2D, but I've read the RealD 3D is the best experience.  The glasses are like sunglasses - not the old blue-red paper ones.
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 06:04:00 am »

The movie is loaded with a subtext of commentary.  It is still a good story.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 11:39:37 am »

... and this from pasty, pudgy neocon David Brooks:

Offensive White Messiah fable at heart of Avatar
By DAVID BROOKS
New York Times


Kevin Smith had these idiots nailed (funniest part of Chasing Amy) [1:59 long]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VZj-85E5o
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 02:04:29 am »

... and this from pasty, pudgy neocon David Brooks:

Offensive White Messiah fable at heart of Avatar
By DAVID BROOKS
New York Times


Kevin Smith had these idiots nailed (funniest part of Chasing Amy) [1:59 long]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VZj-85E5o

Hmmmmm......... the article has apparently been pulled.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 11:48:09 am »

... and this from pasty, pudgy neocon David Brooks:

Offensive White Messiah fable at heart of Avatar
By DAVID BROOKS
New York Times


Kevin Smith had these idiots nailed (funniest part of Chasing Amy) [1:59 long]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VZj-85E5o

Hmmmmm......... the article has apparently been pulled.


Original link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/opinion/08brooks.html
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 11:49:21 am »

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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 05:50:54 pm »

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz4b70bcca.jpg

Spot on.  It's still a fun movie.  I'll never watch it on the TV.

I suppose Door Into Summer is right. Funny, too. Even so, Avatar is fun and exciting and anybody who loves movies should see it in 3D because if you don't you'll have missed one of the great leaps ever in filmmaking.

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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2010, 08:37:21 pm »


*shrug* I thought it was purty, like a succession of 50's SF pulp-mag covers come to life.

I also thought it was dumb as a box o' rocks. The dialouge was atrocious, and the narration at the beginning could be the definition of talking down to the audience, as if Cameron thought his collection of simplistic, cliched SF material was so mind-blowingly 'new' that he had to explain them carefully in advance.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2010, 09:21:42 pm »

Thanks to Mom's anniversary present to us, we were treated to Avatar in IMax 3-D today.

What a great show and wonderful experience.  Sure I'm a sucker for B-movies, but so what.  Sue me.

We missed the opening few minutes, but apparently didn't miss anything of importance. Action. Romance. New worlds.  Had me screaming for the death of my race at the hands of the aliens.  What's not to like about the effectiveness of that?

This time the Nez Perce win.  Cool.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 08:09:32 pm »

Avatar is fun and beautiful, but some fans got a little carried away with it.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/12/avatar_blues/

"Avatar renders this earthly life meaningless
Can't go to Pandora? Kill yourself!"

What's so funny is if these weepies who want to live on Pandora actually got to go to such a place, they'd be the first ones eaten up by all the wild animals.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 10:43:10 pm »

Haha. I'm fairly sure the one quoted in full was a parody of the other posts. The fight with his mom, and the admission of being age 35 sort of convinced me. :P
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 07:56:52 am »

Thanks to Mom's anniversary present to us, we were treated to Avatar in IMax 3-D today.

What a great show and wonderful experience.  Sure I'm a sucker for B-movies, but so what.  Sue me.

We missed the opening few minutes, but apparently didn't miss anything of importance. Action. Romance. New worlds.  Had me screaming for the death of my race at the hands of the aliens.  What's not to like about the effectiveness of that?

This time the Nez Perce win.  Cool.

You caught that too, cool.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2010, 12:01:49 am »

Thanks to Mom's anniversary present to us, we were treated to Avatar in IMax 3-D today.

What a great show and wonderful experience.  Sure I'm a sucker for B-movies, but so what.  Sue me.

We missed the opening few minutes, but apparently didn't miss anything of importance. Action. Romance. New worlds.  Had me screaming for the death of my race at the hands of the aliens.  What's not to like about the effectiveness of that?

This time the Nez Perce win.  Cool.

You caught that too, cool.

Two days later I realized the story was Iraq revisited.  Foreign invaders want what is under the native soil and kill whatever they have to to get it out and haul it back home for a profit. 

I suppose this story is repeated forever and forever with the names changed. Danged idiot kids that go do the damage for the looters.  Does it help if I burn my Form DD214?  Will that absolve me of my minuscule part in the assault on Vietnam?
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 03:46:37 am »

What was under the dirt in Vietnam?  I think your hands may be clean in that aspect at least.  WW2, Korea and Vietnam may be clean in that respect, they weren't resource grabs.   I think one of the reasons Avatar is so popular is that it is FULL of HOOKS, there are all sorts of aspects of the storyline to pull people in.   James Cameron my have done that deliberatly, or it just worked out that way.

I think it is placed in the aliens universe with the megacorp and gov closely linked.  It comments on the theft of resources from aboriginal peoples.  It links into the "Greenness" thing.  There is a ceratain amount of romance going on.  Medical/druginess is involved, tripping to artificial bodies and the flying scenes. The Disabled are given a good dream. Then there is the good old violence of a final battle.  Heck there are tie ins to some of the Gamer culture, and Pop culturee with the return of at least 2 or 3 of the aliens crew, the floating mountains.

I think that this movie is the ultimate in velcro media.
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