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[mutti]

**Not really for kidlets***

Okay. The article is pretty graphic and in en effort to make sure that some of the books were indeed "graphic" - I looked up a few.

If the following article and even the possibility of what types of reading material are being suggested for use are true - 


Breaking: Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar� Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom– Kevin Jennings and the GLSEN Reading List

To that end, GLSEN maintains a recommended reading list of books that it claims “furthers our mission to ensure safe schools for all students.� In other words, these are the books that GLSEN’s directors think all kids should be reading: gay kids should read them to raise their self-esteem, and straight kids should read them in order to become more aware and tolerant and stop bullying gay kids. Through GLSEN’s online ordering system, called “GLSEN BookLink,� featured prominently on their Web site, teachers can buy the books to use as required classroom assignments, or students can buy them to read on their own.

I don't care what someone's personal sexual choice is. It is none of my business just as it is none of anyone elses business whether I like to put on heels, a gun belt and run around trying to retake the Alamo in order to achieve gratification. But in a public school?

Maybe it's just knee-jerk because some of the material for grades 7 - 12 are very frank and descriptive.

What happened to just being a kid?

[Bennie]

Oh crap! That ain't for kidlets or adults!

[gaurdduck]

Good reason. Damn good reason. Actually It is even a good reason to move to some other country.
Which I am looking into along with my other land searches within the country.

[warbourne]

What's that song...

"It's the end of the world as we know it..."

Sure sounds like a campaign slogan for apocalypse advocates.
(and I was starting to think I wasn't going to agree with luffy on anything) 

[Howard]

God save us. And this crap is being pushed by one of Obama's Czars? I'm not sure if it's appropriate to pray for his salvation or for divine retribution to find him swiftly. This is just staggering material!

I'm sure glad to have been home schooled.

[gaurdduck]

I'm praying for the divine retribution. A pillar of fire or cloudless bolt of lighting would be nice and "freak phenomenon" enough that it won't start a civil war.

[Winston]

Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me )

[Moonbeam]

I'm sickened, saddened and sometimes feel utterly helpless to protect the innocents of this pathetic world...

[mutti]

Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me )

I'm a little more opened minded than judging someone else's personal issues. If an adult chooses to read (insert whatever) - well fine. To make it part of a mandated curriculum - too edgy for my blood.

Good news is we, as parents, are not helpless. We discussed homeschooling pre-minion stage and it has worked in our situation.

[Winston]

Holy shit! I was just expecting to see a dull, none-too-edgy teen romance novel with gay charachters, being all prepared to come back in here and say "aww come on guys it's not that bad..." That stuff is just perverted, adults shouldn't be reading that. (and ya'll know thats saying something coming from me )

I'm a little more opened minded than judging someone else's personal issues. If an adult chooses to read (insert whatever) - well fine. To make it part of a mandated curriculum - too edgy for my blood.

Right, which is why I only said "shouldn't" rather than "shouldn't be legal"...you can't stop people from being perverts, nor should you. I should know, I am one...but the gay pedo stuff is pretty far out there. I'm pretty normal as sexual deviants go.

[DreamingWest]

That is literary child porn, plain and simple. Any adult who proposes exposing children to such filth should be completely shunned by the community, driven into the wilderness and scorned forever. There was nothing "educational" about those writings, unless one considers it educational to sexualize children and groom them for future contact with pedophiles, rapists, and other predatory exploiters.

I can't believe what I just read. The word "Satanic" comes to mind. This is nothing short of raw, unadulterated evil.

You know, I just realized that my line in the sand will be an attempt to restrict or even outlaw homeschooling. I will go underground and live in a shanty with my children before I'll surrender them to state control. "Over my dead body" sums it up.

[mutti]

Mother furious after in-school clinic sets up teen's abortion

First mistake - sending her to a public school.

Second mistake - assuming:

When she signed a consent form, Jill figured it meant her 15 year old could go to the Ballard Teen Health Center located inside the high school for an earache, a sports physical, even birth control, but not for help terminating a pregnancy.

Third mistake - not knowing what was going on in her childs life:

Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing.

But Jill says she not only didn't have a say in her daughter's abortion, but also didn't know about it.

So if the 15 year old had died or developed complications - what exactly would have happened? Who would have been responsible?

I am now going to rant - please excuse me while I do -

What in the sam-hill is going on in this country. Most 15 year olds ( but not all) take hours to decide what to wear to school. How can a complex issue be addressed by the school, decided, and implemented without parental consent.  How young does this policy cover - 10, 12, ??

Yes - the minor was having sex. It happens no matter what parents say/do/etc. But perhaps there was an alternative here and maybe the outcome would have been the same - she will never know because she wasn't given the opportunity to use this experience to be involved and grow the relationship with her child.

I have to say I am honestly shocked and it takes quite a bit to get me there.

Algebra, Art and Abortion - subjects I never thought would be combined in school.

mutti

[Winston]

Mother furious after in-school clinic sets up teen's abortion

First mistake - sending her to a public school.

Second mistake - assuming:

When she signed a consent form, Jill figured it meant her 15 year old could go to the Ballard Teen Health Center located inside the high school for an earache, a sports physical, even birth control, but not for help terminating a pregnancy.

Third mistake - not knowing what was going on in her childs life:

Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing.

But Jill says she not only didn't have a say in her daughter's abortion, but also didn't know about it.

So if the 15 year old had died or developed complications - what exactly would have happened? Who would have been responsible?

I am now going to rant - please excuse me while I do -

What in the sam-hill is going on in this country. Most 15 year olds ( but not all) take hours to decide what to wear to school. How can a complex issue be addressed by the school, decided, and implemented without parental consent.  How young does this policy cover - 10, 12, ??

Yes - the minor was having sex. It happens no matter what parents say/do/etc. But perhaps there was an alternative here and maybe the outcome would have been the same - she will never know because she wasn't given the opportunity to use this experience to be involved and grow the relationship with her child.

I have to say I am honestly shocked and it takes quite a bit to get me there.

Algebra, Art and Abortion - subjects I never thought would be combined in school.

mutti

On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....

[mutti]

On the bright side; A would be teen mother got an abortion....

Believe it or not, the abortion is not the key issue here. The issue is the apparent  blatant superseding of parental rights.

We can "what if" this to death with all of the possibilities that could have been discussed among the Family, however that option was removed by the State.

That is the issue.

[Rarick]

The state has been trying to impose its values over family values for how long now?  The "great Society" welfare program done by Johnson back in the 60's was the biggest and most effective effort in supplanting a lot of family functions with state programs.  Wea are just seeing a lot of the logical conclusions coming home to roost now.