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Fiddlers Green

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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2010, 02:31:24 pm »

Seems to me that the survivors of an initial die-off will tend to drift southward.  I don't think desperate zombies will try to overrun a well armed homestead when they can follow the herd to warmer climes.  A well organized gang would really have to want it to travel way out into the country or to a small rural community to take your stash of supplies, especially come November or December.  That was a lot of my reasoning when I picked a northern border state.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2010, 10:45:34 pm »

I don't think desperate zombies will try to overrun a well armed homestead when they can follow the herd to warmer climes.

I wanted to escape the south for this reason - most people don't like to worry about the cold - I don't mind the cold, the heat and the predators in the long run are more dangerous.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2010, 11:01:37 pm »

Provided I'm wearing the proper attire I actually enjoy cold weather. It's easier to breathe when it has just snowed.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2010, 05:10:16 am »

Provided I'm wearing the proper attire I actually enjoy cold weather. It's easier to breathe when it has just snowed.

Not to mention the beauty and stillness one experiences right after a snowfall.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2010, 05:16:25 am »

A small town would have enough population to have the specialists needed for a lot of the modern luxuries,but still small enough to be sustainable without shipped in food.  Large enough to create a give in the system for holidays and dealing with breakdowns that would require plain old muscle power to fix........
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2010, 03:14:36 pm »

Provided I'm wearing the proper attire I actually enjoy cold weather. It's easier to breathe when it has just snowed.

Not to mention the beauty and stillness one experiences right after a snowfall.

Yeah, that too... and the ease of tracking game. Then there is the hot chocolate you make when you get back in after a stint of splitting firewood. It just feels so nostalgic.
BTW, I'm one of those weirdos who likes cutting firewood. I find the exercise invigorating, the rhythm calming, and the the thunk-split sound is satisfying on a instinctual level.
I have gained a little weight over the holidays, and I suppose getting to split wood on a regular basis after I move will thin me out again.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2010, 08:02:25 pm »

There is always a lot of talk about the "gangs" of looters/murderers, but we need to remember that its not just the organized gangs that will be a major threat.  Get a few desperate families together and your going to have a very determined group of people wanting your stuff.   Even one person getting within your safe zone can be catastrophic. 

Honestly parents are capable of things that murdering gangs are not.  They are much more interested in surviving the fight than murder/mayhem.  They want to live so that they can protect their children.  So your not going to have someone boldly attacking.  They are going to try sneaky ways of getting you out in the open from a distance.  Less risk of being injured that way.  All they have to do is keep you in your compound, maybe capture one of you and hold you hostage so they can get inside.  Would you be willing to watch your husband,wife, or child killed in front of you?  It's a waiting game, eventually your going to have to come out to do work.  And if they can get to your water supply or pipes and shut those off your sunk!  You may have a sniper rifle, but so will they! 

 I think the bigger danger will be a young mom with two kids at your door begging for food.  That would be the perfect infiltrator into your safe zone. After all how could you turn away a lone women with children?  Does anyone here have the guts to shoot a 3 year old.  Or that 3 year olds mom right in front of him.  What if the women is holding a baby?  Could you shoot her then?  Perfect set up!  A group offers the women safety for her kids and food to eat, sure she would be willing to come to your door to scope things out!  Maybe she would even be willing to throw a bomb in your door when you answer, or just at your door.  Maybe they have one of her kids hostage and are threatening to kill it right in front of her.  As I said, parents are capable of doing things you would never imagine to save their children. 

It's going to be the non-zombie cannibals that will be the hardest to defend yourself from simply because you identify with them.  They look normal.  But they are just as capable of killing you as a criminal when push comes to shove.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2010, 08:46:16 pm »

Reading "One Second After"- it tells about all the masses that fled the cities looking for relief in the country.  If millions flee the city for the country... you would have to be VERY far ahead of that they would never reach you or you would have to give them some time to thin themselves out through attrition.... I think that a hasty retreat to the hills would be fought with competition.... and thugs.... at least at the house.. my home could be considered a compound... defended... unless there is a reason... radiation... plague... etc... I will stay here...at the house.. guarding the windows with my shotgun and my Mauser... 
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2010, 09:50:41 pm »

I think I have the 'so far out in the boonies that no one will make it that far' part covered so long as the collapse part happens after next spring when my house will be built.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2011, 11:08:42 am »

Hi I am new here and learning so if I seem ignorant...Iam.....No one has brought up the question of the FEMA CAMP???? I am not in fear of the hord....I am in fear of the Military fema carting us off to FEMA Camps. My thoughts are this has all been planned out by the NWO New World Order. I don't think there will be a place to hide.
There plan is to crash the dollar. Rebellion and starvation, most will die.(this is what there plan is....)The National guard or FEMA Cops will will try to restore order. They plan to put us into work camps to restore the madness. There plan is for a world population of 500 mil. They will take us out with bio wepons we won't see or know what hit us.They will take your guns as was done in Katrina with the people who were high and dry. So if your guns are registered forget it. The new world order is toppling governments around the world. Soon it will start here. My question is What other country will be safe. I don't think it will be safe anywhere in the USA.
Google FEMA Camp and prepare yourself for a shock. Perhaps this topic has been talked about already. I looked for the thread but found none.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2011, 05:05:39 pm »

Welcome irayone.

Do some [a lot] more reading hereabouts.

Most of the questions in your post have been answered and expounded upon at length.

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"I am in fear of the Military fema carting us off to FEMA Camps"

I would suggest that you swing by Oath Keepers and do some reading over there as well.
The main reason for forming Oath Keepers is/was to Prevent exactly what you are expressing.
Check them out. HERE
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2011, 11:52:11 am »

WOW !!! Thanks for the heads up on Oath keepers.....However the Blackwater corporate troopers only oath is to the dollar. I have also seen the National guard when Katrina hit. They state under martial law there are no rights and there is no Habius corpus. The NWO wants a breakdown so they can step in and take over.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2011, 07:48:41 pm »

WOW !!! Thanks for the heads up on Oath keepers.....However the Blackwater corporate troopers only oath is to the dollar. I have also seen the National guard when Katrina hit. They state under martial law there are no rights and there is no Habius corpus. The NWO wants a breakdown so they can step in and take over.

(LOL Habeas Corpus is how that's spelled...)

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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2011, 05:49:26 am »

Habeus Corpus  (seperation of military from the police) was removed a couple years ago as a rider on anther bill.  I missed it, but yes the military can now do policework.........Part of the pariot act mindset.
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Re: Bug In small/medium town
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2011, 02:17:54 pm »

"I do not think that word means what you think it means". :)

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits members of the Army and Air Force from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

Habeas corpus (Latin meaning "you may have the body"[1] ) is a writ, or legal action, through which a prisoner can be released from unlawful detention. The remedy can be sought by the prisoner or by another person coming to his aid. Habeas corpus originated in the English legal system, but it is now available in many nations. It has historically been an important legal instrument safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary state action.
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