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Rarick

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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #165 on: April 05, 2011, 07:05:34 am »

With filling in some detail and fleshing out you have your first book.   The begining with the Teo getting Wacky, the middle with the community gelling around its principles, and the end with the final solution on the old guard and with the malcontent folks.   Now you have a whole community like "Hardyville" congrats!   With a setup like that and a "sort of" reality around it, you have all sorts of possibilities!  Your ghost can maybe talk about things it wants to do in more detail.  I am curious as to HOW NASTY the guys in the mountain really were?  What is the traders life like and what factors lead him to moving his basecamp?   What are the other comunities the trader has seen like?

You got the good stuff goin'!
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #166 on: April 05, 2011, 08:19:56 am »

Rarick, just finished a major rewrite of the first half. The second half is going to be a REAL challenge. To start with, there are just so many possibilities that my brain goes into overload and freezes sometimes. I have just wiped out an entire chapter that went down a bad wormhole and just didn't fit - after working on it for several days. The harder I worked on it, the worse it got!! The "ghost" must have had a head cold. LOL

There is more information in book two about the Denver thing, and other "rabbit holes" that were taken out, as flashbacks when an exploring group finds a breach in the Denver mountain complex. Also, climate change and some other speculation will be dealt with.

Struggling with technical details there, since I don't know much about the real "shadow government" situation and have to research or invent it. LOL  This is turning into partly science fiction, which is neat because it gives me a little more leeway.

Lots of other surprises. The inventors and entrepreneurs of the new world must learn how to operate in a free market. That's as much a matter of speculation as the tech stuff, of course, since a truly free market isn't going to be minutely predictable.

I'm trying to use logic and what is known to show both success and failure in the process as they operate without federal government to coerce them (or to be used to coerce others!).  And, of course, some groups either cling to or develop their own brands of coercive government (such as the failed East Valley religionists), so I'm exploring how those communities interact with others who are more free. Since the people are truly free to vote with their feet and leave a community they find too controlling or objectionable - and other communities are truly free to welcome them -  I think the operation of the free market is pretty obvious there.

And it is not all sweetness and light! Conflict and problems are to be expected. This is no Utopian dream story.
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #167 on: April 05, 2011, 08:26:15 am »

Freedom is a natural process-  there are aspects of predator and prey even if the predator is more like a venus fly trap.   Get aggressive with a fly trap- or a free person and ZAP prey and aggressor are the same critter.........  There is always going to be the darker side- it is necessary for a light side to exist..........it also keeps life interesting, a boring life is not worth living.
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #168 on: April 05, 2011, 08:47:08 am »

Indeed, which is a great part of the first book. The idea that we can just talk our way out of this mess is crazy.

One person who read it objected to all the death and destruction, especially the massacre of the goblin army and the bandits at the reservoir . I asked her just what she expected in such a situation. No answer so far. :)
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #169 on: May 18, 2011, 07:01:00 am »

Geez, now I'm gonna have to write one for my story. It's going to be hard too because I'm writing it in the first person, rather than second or third, which are the usual perspectives.

Nice to know the pre-story tho

Any particular reason for writing in first person? I've been a reader and editor for a long time, and I can only think of one story written that way that I enjoyed. Most of the time, if I see a story in first person I just close the book and forget it. The "person" is put into the position of reading the minds of all the other characters, for one thing, or the other characters never have any depth because they are being seen from only one perspective. In any case, it is a very difficult writing style. You might want to reconsider that. But I'd love to see your story. Please start a new thread if you decide to post it. :)
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« Reply #170 on: May 18, 2011, 07:13:18 pm »

Indeed, which is a great part of the first book. The idea that we can just talk our way out of this mess is crazy.

One person who read it objected to all the death and destruction, especially the massacre of the goblin army and the bandits at the reservoir . I asked her just what she expected in such a situation. No answer so far. :)

Tell your critic to read Forschen's  "One Second After"..   I would not be the least bit surprised if that is the way a large majority of things turn out.  People do their damnedest to survive and remain human, but the expense is something like an 80% death toll...............   If your critic can't handle your fairly cheery stuff- the critic probably can't handle reality..........
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #171 on: May 19, 2011, 06:33:34 am »

Tell your critic to read Forschen's  "One Second After"..   I would not be the least bit surprised if that is the way a large majority of things turn out.  People do their damnedest to survive and remain human, but the expense is something like an 80% death toll...............   If your critic can't handle your fairly cheery stuff- the critic probably can't handle reality..........

Indeed, and agreed. And yet, even I was horrified at times while I wrote it. The question that runs through each of those accounts of death and destruction is how congruent those actions are with the non-aggression principle the main characters mostly profess. Some actions are consistent with ZAP, and some might not seem to be. I think it shows that there may well be differences between the conclusions of libertarian hair splitting in idle conversation and some of the realities we may face. And some people just will do aggressive things regardless. Many will never be known except to the one who has to live with it.

Society needs the dreamers, the hard headed merchant, the explorer/adventurer, the warrior, the mothers and fathers, farmers and hunters, philosophers and mystics... everyone free to live, learn, grow, fail and go on... resisting those who would stand in their way or harm them... you know the litany.
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Re: MamaLiberty's new story
« Reply #172 on: June 29, 2018, 04:57:38 am »

Again...love it and keep it coming.



Just a small editorial note.   The stinger missile (used to blow up the car) is a surface to air missile and would not be used for that application.  A better choice would be the SMAW, a Marine specific,

S-holder launched
M-ulti-purpose
A-ssault
W-eapon.

Basically an updated, more powerful, re loadable bazooka.

Just sayin.   Ya know, for when you publish.   :thumbsup:

AKA - the Karl G - a truly sweet piece of kit!
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