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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2010, 02:40:56 pm »

Holy record-breaking virus travel Batman! Did not know that it was based on a book, thanks again BEAR!
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2010, 02:14:01 pm »

For the 2/27/10 episode...

I was a little surprised that the gov't lady killed the female thief. And of course it's ironic that she was a part of a gov't that banned guns, but is now wanting to create a gov't that will use guns to kill others? Anyway, I don't know about the book, but sticking to this TV program, I was curious why the group didn't do any intelligence gathering regarding the two thieves? (Or did I miss that?) DH and I discussed what we would do in that situation. I don't know that there is a blanket rule that must apply to all... If the two thieves acted alone, then wouldn't it be safe to assume that they are in need of food and perhaps shelter? Would it behoove anyone to have the thieves pay restitution so to speak by working? Have them help work the land, build, gather supplies, etc.? Was the only choice to kill her?

When the father turned away his daughter I asked DH if he could do that. He said he didn't think he could do...
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2010, 04:40:18 pm »

For the 2/27/10 episode...

I was a little surprised that the gov't lady killed the female thief. And of course it's ironic that she was a part of a gov't that banned guns, but is now wanting to create a gov't that will use guns to kill others?

Right. Guns are for Government, because Only Government Knows Best!  :puke:

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Anyway, I don't know about the book, but sticking to this TV program, I was curious why the group didn't do any intelligence gathering regarding the two thieves? (Or did I miss that?) DH and I discussed what we would do in that situation. I don't know that there is a blanket rule that must apply to all... If the two thieves acted alone, then wouldn't it be safe to assume that they are in need of food and perhaps shelter? Would it behoove anyone to have the thieves pay restitution so to speak by working? Have them help work the land, build, gather supplies, etc.? Was the only choice to kill her?

I got the impression that the Govt' Lady (tm) found herself pushed into making a decision
that she wasn't really prepared to make. She need to show force not just as A Warning to Others,
but to show the group she had the backbone to lead.

Perhaps if she had shown more leadership in dealing with the problem proactively, such as telling
everyone exactly what she wanted to do and what she expected, she might have not painted herself
into a corner.

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When the father turned away his daughter I asked DH if he could do that. He said he didn't think he could do...

I could not turn away either my wife nor my daughter. (OTOH, I have some other relatives ....) :D

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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 08:24:13 pm »

I have but one relative I would enjoy turning away.
Several I'd give starter kits to, and several more I'd
actually help.
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 01:33:47 pm »

Good points, Bear! I gotta tell you, I'm much more riveted with this show than I was with The Colony...
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 02:29:34 pm »

Okay, unless I missed it, why is Tom Price bothered that Dr. Anya Raczynski is a lesbian?

Back to a real issue... Seeing the spiritual leader lose his mind because he cannot take meds for his mental issues got me thinking: what would I do if I came across someone like that? There are going to be a lot of crazies not on their meds (no doubt that many don't even take meds pre-WTSHTF). If you had a community or a small group of folks and someone began to manifest their mental issues, what do you do with them?!
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2010, 05:05:52 pm »

Depends on their issues and the circumstances.
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2010, 06:58:05 pm »

Good points, Bear! I gotta tell you, I'm much more riveted with this show than I was with The Colony...

I tried to watch The Colony, but that made so many bad decisions that I got too frustrated
and had to do something else.

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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2010, 01:59:49 pm »

What the heck? Is it coming back?
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2010, 01:16:55 pm »

I found the original 3 seasons (series to you Brits) on youtube.  Check out the channel AftermathShow.  He's been posting them the past few months and I think he's nearly done posting season 3.  Was made back in 1975-1977.

Pretty decent watch overall.  They don't completely write guns out but they're horribly portrayed and the lack of a realistic portrayal of how violent it would be is also lacking.  I did enjoy watching it through though.

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Actually watching sn 3 ep 5 right now.
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2010, 05:59:54 am »

Just finished the first season. (I love Netflix)  It is a great story - 99% of the population gone.  The layers of humanity that are revealed in the days and weeks afterward were interesting to see.  I was surprised how anti-gun nearly everyone was.  Must be a British thing.

It really made me think though.  It would be hard to 'go it alone' but you are then stuck with (most likely) complete strangers who also happened to survive.  What would you do first once the reality sunk in?
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2010, 06:50:50 am »

Versus those strangers finding hemselves in my compound would flinch asking how I aquired the Armory! Holy crap!!

I would kind of like to see that show back again. It was entertaining, but not much operational knowledge.
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2010, 09:55:08 am »

I found the original 3 seasons (series to you Brits) on youtube.  Check out the channel AftermathShow.  He's been posting them the past few months and I think he's nearly done posting season 3.  Was made back in 1975-1977.

Pretty decent watch overall.  They don't completely write guns out but they're horribly portrayed and the lack of a realistic portrayal of how violent it would be is also lacking.  I did enjoy watching it through though.

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Actually watching sn 3 ep 5 right now.

I am also watching the original series. Haven't seen any of the new one as yet, but I would assume that it is way more PC than one done 35 years ago.

On the realistic portrayal of violence' thing, I doubt that if 99% of the people were dead, that violence would be as much of a problem as it would from a collapsing society.

The poor portrayal of guns in the 70's serries was just about what I would have expected from that era in England. Remember they were a respectfull society for many generations. (the old honor thing) We here in the US are far more violent than most Europeean's.

I'm enjoying the 70's version, and have been downloading it to compile some DVD's for others.

 
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Re: BBC America to air 'Survivors' on 2/13/10
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 11:43:01 am »

One thing that bothered me a  bit about the portrayal of violence/guns in the remake
was that the escaped prisoner made good judgement calls often, and yet the argument
seemed to be that 'violence is bad, period', without any discussion of how it could be
an appropriate response in some circumstances. I expected to the escaped prisoner to
point that out in his defense, but he never did (or I don't remember him doing it).

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