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[Alchemist]

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[Desertrat]

You get the appropriate software program so you can hook your car's computer to your laptop and "massage" the data.  Same sort of thing some hot-rodders have learned to do to improve performance against factory-programmed performance limiters.

Or stay with older cars.

'Rat

[Joel]

You get the appropriate software program so you can hook your car's computer to your laptop and "massage" the data.  Same sort of thing some hot-rodders have learned to do to improve performance against factory-programmed performance limiters.
 

My knowledge of this is almost twenty years out of date.  But as Rat said, hot rodders have been tweaking the calibration tables and disabling the rev limiters in powertrain control modules since the seventies.  I don't believe somebody out there isn't poking around the data recorders.

The only data recorders I'm aware of are entirely benign, and used for fault diagnostics.  Unless the JBT's want to know whether your mass airflow sensor is working properly, I don't know why they'd be a problem.  "Black boxes" for accident analysis aren't something I'd happily accept.

[UnstructuredAgain]

Right now, the JBT's have suits and ties on and work for the insurance companies.  They are the driving force behind not only this but, the linking of insurance databases and LE traffic stop databases.  I'd be studying as much as I could about it and if I couldn't disable it, I might just situate my car in an area where there are a lot of dead trees to fall during the next storm accidently.  Actually, ask your dealer about it, search the internet about what it really does and if disabling it would shut off any important functions.  There is a big test going on right now between the insurance companies and volunteers who want cheaper car insurance.  You sign up, let them monitor your driving and they give you 15 percent or so discounts.  The hell would come if you disabled it and you couldn't drive your car, but I'm not certain how it works and I stick to the cars that don't use it yet and I'm sure there are ways around it.  Good post, I'll be checking in to see what you all think.  Personally, I'm waiting for the gps devices on the cars as to me they represent a clear danger, but would be easier to fool.  I just downloaded a nice study on gps devices in rental cars and how to defeat them and render them useless.  Now, I'd assume they'd probably call the car in stolen, but I'm still on page 5.

[Alchemist]

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[UnstructuredAgain]

Yes let me finish up and I'll post it to a site for you all. It's a pdf if that bothers you, otherwise I can use a conversion tool and put it up on a board of some sort. Or, if you have a gmail I can do it that way.  Or even better, if you have a Hellacious riders account that would work too, I blieve.

[ultralongrunner]

The only data recorders I'm aware of are entirely benign, and used for fault diagnostics.  Unless the JBT's want to know whether your mass airflow sensor is working properly, I don't know why they'd be a problem.  "Black boxes" for accident analysis aren't something I'd happily accept.

They've had them for a number of years that note certain data points when the airbag deploys including, but not limited to speed, braking, engine RPM, seat belt status and more.  

Here is a link to a guy that was convicted of manslaughter based on what the data recorder had to say:

http://mytrakm8.com/pressreleases/ref:N3F30C5F10A70E/

Depending on the car maker, you may not have a choice.

ultralongrunner

[Desertrat]

The data recording software is indeed interesting.  I have a '00 GMC pickemup.  I was browsing through the owner's manual about oil-change intervals.

There ain't none.  The computer counts revs and some other data, and decides how hard I've been driving the truck.  A "Change Oil" warning light shows in the "Message Center" when the computer thinks it's time to do so.  It did say in the book that the message would appear as long as 7,500 miles from a change.  I guess I'm gentle in my driving, 'cause I didn't "get the message" until--you guessed it--7,500 miles.

My historic pattern is to change oil somewhere between 3,000 and 3,500 miles.  Given the cost of synthetic oil, I reckon I'll keep on being gentle.

'Rat

[kbarrett]

If you replace the fuel system with carburation, and replace the air-bags with a proper racing harness, you can ditch all of this electronic stool pigeon crap.

If you want fuel injection or airbags, scrounge the wiring harness and computers from a year 2002 model wreck from the same manufacturer.