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[Bill St. Clair]

I doubt it matters HOW you bleed. I'm sure leeches would work, too. But I'll let MamaLiberty confirm.

[MamaLiberty]

Question on iron excretion ML.

For men, women who are past their menses stage, ( past menopause?) does donating blood help with the over abundant iron reduction?
How often would a person (see defining character definitions above) need to donate for it to be beneficial?

Yes, donating blood on a regular basis would help reduce iron overload. Unless you intentionally take in large quantities of iron (and why would you do that?), donating every month or two would be fine.  So would giving chain saw lessons, but that's pretty messy.

The amount you get from a normal diet isn't likely to be harmful, but large doses via things like the use of cast iron for all or most cooking could definitely put you over the top. It would be much easier to stop (or not start) doing that than try to strain some of the iron out of your blood once it is there.

This might also be an issue for someone eating large amounts of red meat, along with a high protein diet otherwise. But I don't have any references for that. Just something to think about.

[da gooch]

Question on iron excretion ML.

For men, women who are past their menses stage, ( past menopause?) does donating blood help with the over abundant iron reduction?
How often would a person (see defining character definitions above) need to donate for it to be beneficial?

Yes, donating blood on a regular basis would help reduce iron overload. Unless you intentionally take in large quantities of iron (and why would you do that?), donating every month or two would be fine.  So would giving chain saw lessons, but that's pretty messy.

The amount you get from a normal diet isn't likely to be harmful, but large doses via things like the use of cast iron for all or most cooking could definitely put you over the top. It would be much easier to stop (or not start) doing that than try to strain some of the iron out of your blood once it is there.

This might also be an issue for someone eating large amounts of red meat, along with a high protein diet otherwise. But I don't have any references for that. Just something to think about.

Thanks ML.
I sometimes remember when I see the rolling donation labs.

[FDD]

Question on iron excretion ML.

For men, women who are past their menses stage, ( past menopause?) does donating blood help with the over abundant iron reduction?
How often would a person (see defining character definitions above) need to donate for it to be beneficial?

Yes, donating blood on a regular basis would help reduce iron overload. Unless you intentionally take in large quantities of iron (and why would you do that?), donating every month or two would be fine.  So would giving chain saw lessons, but that's pretty messy.

The amount you get from a normal diet isn't likely to be harmful, but large doses via things like the use of cast iron for all or most cooking could definitely put you over the top. It would be much easier to stop (or not start) doing that than try to strain some of the iron out of your blood once it is there.

This might also be an issue for someone eating large amounts of red meat, along with a high protein diet otherwise. But I don't have any references for that. Just something to think about.

Thanks ML.
I sometimes remember when I see the rolling donation labs.

Oh you mean the mobile DNA collection trucks

[MamaLiberty]

Oh you mean the mobile DNA collection trucks

If some goon wants your DNA, they have hundreds or thousands of ways to go about getting it. A simple traffic stop, with the excuse of DUI will give them all they want.

I've watched many people saved with donated blood. I used to be a member of the gallon club in So. Calif. Don't remember seeing a blood donation drive here, but there must be some. One of the disadvantages of not taking the local newspaper.

[FDD]

Oh you mean the mobile DNA collection trucks

If some goon wants your DNA, they have hundreds or thousands of ways to go about getting it. A simple traffic stop, with the excuse of DUI will give them all they want.

I've watched many people saved with donated blood. I used to be a member of the gallon club in So. Calif. Don't remember seeing a blood donation drive here, but there must be some. One of the disadvantages of not taking the local newspaper.

Maybe so,
Having been in the military, they already have mine.

As for blood drives, been here for 7 months and have yet to hear about any blood drives.
maybe it is an urban city thing, you know, with the so call gun violent there, they need more blood 

[Moonbeam]

A friend shared a recipe for biscuits that looks interesting enough to try. It calls for a 1/4 cup of shortening. Do I have to use shortening or could I substitute real butter?

[Who...me?]

YES!!! By all means use butter!

Make sure you use cold butter so it does not all melt into the flour...you should have butter nuggets when you are done.

[Moonbeam]

Yay for butter! I do remember from making Mama's biscuit recipe to use cold butter. I got a dough cutter a few years ago that makes it easier to incorporate the butter.

[Klapton Isgod]

Lard is really what shortening is trying to imitate. 

[MamaLiberty]

Lard is really what shortening is trying to imitate.

Yes, but unprocessed and hydrogenated lard goes rancid very quickly, even in refrigeration. I learned that the hard way many years ago when I bought ten pounds of rendered pig fat, cut it into one pound cubes and put it in the freezer. A year later had to toss out what was left... got rancid even in the freezer. sigh

Commercial lard has been rendered and hydrogenated so it is pretty close to vegetable shortening. And even then it won't keep long before it starts to taste rancid.