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[mouse]

This is scary.  Government employees want to demand that parents "toe the line".  Where is it going to end?  This is definitely slippery slope stuff, ".... families are “equal partners” in everything from children's “development” and “education” to their “wellness across all settings.” Virtually no area of family life, including the health and “mental health” of parents, as well as a family's “attitudes ....".  OK so that covers "compulsory vaccination" ("wellness across all settings"), homeschooling could be either outlawed in particular cases or "allowed" but tightly controlled ("education") and then parents could be deemed to be "mentally unhealthy" (perhaps because they have guns or don't fawn before government figures) and of course lose their children to CPS.  This article is pure sophistry as will no doubt be any others papers pertaining to it.  I wonder how many people are going to fall for it.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/22530-feds-seek-home-visits-calling-parents-equal-partners

Big Brother wants to be an “equal partner” with American parents in the raising of their own children, starting before they are even born. He wants to send his agents to your house for “home visits,” too. Believe it or not, two powerful arms of Obama administration, the U.S. Department of Education and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), explicitly say so themselves.

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[MamaLiberty]

Oh sure... and people in Hell want ice water. Unless there's some sort of money carrot attached, I don't see a lot of Americans going for this. More nanny state nonsense, proposed by people who can't even keep their pants zipped.

[RVM45]

Friends,

I used to have a well-reversed rap that went something like:

"Hitler used the Jews as his excuse for every totalitarian crap he got up to. Nowadays anti-semitism is a bit passé in many circles. In the Modern Day the Scapegoat for every shitty fascist law that the State wants to pass is Street Drugs and Drunk Drivers."

Even this has faded into the background today—though it hasn't went away entirely.

Nowadays the shibboleth is Terrorism and It's For The Children.

Some of your posts are informative and eye-opening Mouse—so this isn't directed at you…

But while the State is Rapacious and Insatiable—and totally without even the slightest shred of Honour or Morals—we all know this…

But that doesn't mean that we need to do the "Chicken-Little" thingy every time some Megalomaniacal Drooling Cretin lapses into describing one of his favorite whack-off Phantasy…


…..RVM45

[Tahn L.]

It is scary Mouse. I am seeing this type of fed/state/local/ intrusion on many fronts. It is good to be aware of the many facets of their attempts in destroying the family and substituting the state as a primary guardian, much as was done during the fascist/Nazi/communist eras in other countries. Same pogrom program, different languages.

I am sure the carrot is written in the boilerplate of the proposal, along with the stick.

Being aware was not chicken little's problem. Not understanding the problem was.

I agree that "they" are without morals according to our standards but the dangerous problem is that "they" believe they are doing all this for highly moral reasons, by their standards.

[da gooch]

As is obvious to all here this is more of the Nanny State attempting to convince the masses that they only want the best for "Our Children" when they really want our children to become blindly obedient economic slaves to the Nanny State.

It brings to mind the quote by CS Lewis:

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
        C. S. Lewis
        English essayist & juvenile novelist (1898 - 1963)

"It's for your own good" and "It's for the Children" are instant red lines to me personally. 

YMMV

Thanks mouse for the link so I can send it along to friends in my AO with children at home.

[Splash22]

............and the parent's themselves are doing what exactly to stop this?

This is typical of American behavior........Whine how terrible it all is, but contribute to it, through acceptance!
Blame the schools, the feds, everyone but ourselves! WE, not they, removed our responsibility from the equation.

When you create a vacuum, the feds will surely find a way to fill it, that YOU & I will pay for, on every level.
~S

[da gooch]

............and the parent's themselves are doing what exactly to stop this?

This is typical of American behavior........Whine how terrible it all is, but contribute to it, through acceptance!
Blame the schools, the feds, everyone but ourselves! WE, not they, removed our responsibility from the equation.

When you create a vacuum, the feds will surely find a way to fill it, that YOU & I will pay for, on every level.
~S

Hey Splash2 or do you mind splash by itself?

Welcome to TMM.
I wanted to share a little background that you would otherwise spend weeks learning by reading other threads in the archives as it were.

mouse is from NZ and a mom raising her kids as free as she can manage in that atmosphere.
She occasionally gets grief from some here for being a KIWI but her heart and mind are awake and aware.  IMHO
That said ... the point you raise is all too true. Fortunately the folks who frequent these pages are also awake and aware or making serious progress in that direction.

I, too, think that the general public relies entirely too much on the "let the other guy do it" concept. Worse yet is the "let govt do it" concept.  Down that road lies tyranny.

Meanwhile Welcome aboard.

[Splash22]

"I, too, think that the general public relies entirely too much on the "let the other guy do it" concept. Worse yet is the "let govt do it" concept.  Down that road lies tyranny." <-----Precisely!

If,we only respond when it touches each of us directly, then we accomplish nada.
Every person that is "put upon" is a strike against us all!
IMO, that's what "standing up" should be.

I stood before a school board addressing out and out lies in a text "history book"(calling jihadists-freedom fighters) Myself and ONE parent were there. I have no school age kids here, my boys are all grown up north.
The fact that the school board met at 9 in the morning, was obviously not conducive to any real addressing of problems.
How is that happening?

Thanks for the welcome! Very glad to be here in the bosom of Freedom of the 1st A!
~S

[Moonbeam]

If,we only respond when it touches each of us directly, then we accomplish nada. Every person that is "put upon" is a strike against us all!IMO, that's what "standing up" should be.

Hmm, for some reason Jesus' parable about the Good Smaritian comes to mind, but that's probably not what you meant.

Of course what is worthy of your time and effort can only be decided by you, just like I will decide what is worthy of my time and effort. I am glad that you found a way to utilize your talent and I am sure you respect how others utilize theirs. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "put upon?"

[Splash22]

"put upon", an old expression meaning to be intruded upon, by today's standards, having the feds in our faces.

[Moonbeam]

"put upon", an old expression meaning to be intruded upon, by today's standards, having the feds in our faces.

Hi Splash! I know how I define "put upon" for me and mine; I didn't know how you defined "put upon" for yourself. It's still a bit unclear to me how you see it for yourself, as well as what does "feds in our faces" mean to you -personally. I'm sure we both agree that the lines you'll draw in the sand will look different from the lines others will draw -even from fellow freedom lovers who may share some of your same ideas. There are a lot of options when it comes to dying on a hill; I have chosen mine carefully and for precious few reasons.

[Splash22]

I would respond by saying, whatever bumps up against the BoR.

Most are so far gone (brainwashed) when it comes to right's abuse, they don't even recognize it when it bites them in the ass!
Pity, the most sacred 10 "Laws", 9 of them are tossed out, unrecognized, only one holds fast in people's minds.

Here's a sliver of an example:
Checking out at any cash register across the nation...the cashier asks for your phone #, most don't think twice and give it up.
Requests for your ss# given blindly,  your address when returning an article you purchased....I ask, "may I have yours?"

Every institution, structure, agency, is so vastly corrupted, take your pick as to which one I refer to.
~S