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Gun owner targeted with "no-knock" raid
« on: June 25, 2013, 08:54:39 am »

I watched part of d documentary about the "Bush/Obama administration years" tonight while I was waiting for the kids to decide they were going to settle down and go to bed.  It was spoiled with propaganda pieces like WHEN THE TERRORISTS knocked over the twin towers, and WHEN SEAL TEAM 6 KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN but otherwise was quite good.  I heard the phrase "those who persuade you to believe absurdities will also persuade you to commit atrocities", and my I suddenly took notice, I thought they were talking about "9.11" or "the death of OSB", but they were talking about "Iraq being said to be involved in 9.11 when the hijackers were all Saudis, and people blindly believing it".  It was basically about what has happened in America since 2001, and they kept showing written quotes from the constitution and then showing the many ways it has been violated since 2001 with the "peoples' blessing".  I wondered why and how Americans continue to put up with this rubbish.  It was one thing in 2001/2, people could be "riled up and easily fooled" but since then there have been so many ways they have been presented with the truth.  Nobody should believe these crazy things that happen in America every day are either necessary or right.  This is just one example.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/gun-owner-targeted-with-no-knock-raid/

A Texas citizen is asking a state appeals court to decide whether police are justified in launching a no-knock raid on a home they want to search simply because they believe there is a gun inside.

“Whatever the issue might be, whether it’s mass surveillance, no-knock raids, or the right to freely express one’s views about the government, we’ve moved into a new age in which the rights of the citizenry are being treated as a secondary concern by the White House, Congress, the courts and their vast holding of employees, including law enforcement officials,” said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, which is defending John Gerard Quinn.

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Re: Gun owner targeted with "no-knock" raid
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 09:46:39 am »

As far as I can see, the availability of the truth only matters to those who do not wish to control the lives of others. For the controllers, "truth" is relative to their core goal: control. If it is counterproductive to that goal, it is easily denied or, if possible, hidden.

And controllers come in all shapes, sizes and economic levels, not just politicians and bureaucrats. The person who believes that he/she is "owed" a living, or anything else, and has no problem with that coming to them through theft and coercion...  Why would they care about a truth that would end the freebies? The person who will call the police to complain because a neighbor didn't mow their lawn, or "might" have/take drugs, or they see a properly carried gun... a million and one things that are nobody else's business... they are controllers as well.
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Re: Gun owner targeted with "no-knock" raid
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 11:50:54 am »

As far as I can see, the availability of the truth only matters to those who do not wish to control the lives of others. For the controllers, "truth" is relative to their core goal: control. If it is counterproductive to that goal, it is easily denied or, if possible, hidden.

And controllers come in all shapes, sizes and economic levels, not just politicians and bureaucrats. The person who believes that he/she is "owed" a living, or anything else, and has no problem with that coming to them through theft and coercion...  Why would they care about a truth that would end the freebies? The person who will call the police to complain because a neighbor didn't mow their lawn, or "might" have/take drugs, or they see a properly carried gun... a million and one things that are nobody else's business... they are controllers as well.

Amen to that!

Yep, if they can't mind their own damn beeswax, they're scum.  Its one thing to confront a neighbor about behavior you consider wrong, or harmful or whatnot, even if harmful to them only.  "Hey dude, smoking sucks, especially those cheap ciggies with ten thousand additives that are more addictive and far more harmful than tobacco would ever be by itself."  Contrast that with the typical "we should ban smoking everywhere because I don't like it and because the State Science Institute (hint: any government agency which takes people's money by force and produces politically motivated results) says so."

In Wyoming, for example, there are federally and state funded agencies in each counties employing locals to canvas and force the banning of tobacco and alcohol.  Coincidentally, they are also struggling to gun grab from "those with suicidal tendencies or announced suicidal ideas."  A year ago there was discussion about a proposed "gun escrow."  These are your NEIGHBORS working as enemy agents, not some black suited, shades wearing, curly wired in the ear agent from Washington's grimy cubicles, but actually your own neighbors.  That scares the shit out of me.  And they're not "atheist democrats" either.  These are your typical Christian Republicans (RINOs by all other meanings of that word) doing very liberal things to make a lavish living, and apparently having NO compunctions or moral hangups committing those evils.  You know, like taking federal money (aka, extorted/stolen money, really) to change your community as those outsiders demand, so they can further extort and steal from that community.

Instead of suggesting a free market solution, they're helping evil thrive, and get offended if you point it out.  How much cooler and faster would it be to change things by taking over a restaurant or shop, changing it to "no smoking on premises" and "proving" that you can get more and better clientelle, have better food/drinks, ambiance, etc?  You can't test the idea in the unforgiving crucible of the market place if the damn government and busybodies keep using extorted/stolen (tax) money to alter the incentive/reward system constantly.

So yeah, keep an eye on your local busy bodies.  They failed to prevent that "no permit" conceal carry bill from passing, so they've gone to DC, gotten "jobs" at banning your stuff via back alley deals and such things.  Quisling isn't the word for these guys, so I honestly don't know what to call them.
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Re: Gun owner targeted with "no-knock" raid
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 04:54:40 pm »

can you say Mooooooooooo
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