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Stand Whose Ground?
« on: July 24, 2013, 11:28:40 am »

"Same-sex marriage isn't the only subject on which President Obama's views have evolved. In his remarks last Friday on George Zimmerman's acquittal, the President said it would be wise to 'examine' state and local laws governing the use of firearms in self-defense. He suggested that 'stand your ground' provisions are 'sending a message' that 'someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from a situation.' He asked: 'Is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we'd like to see?' It turns out that Mr. Obama participated in such an examination almost a decade ago and emerged as a stand-your-ground proponent. Illinois Review, a conservative blog, recently unearthed Illinois Senate records showing that then-state Senator Obama voted for and even co-sponsored a 2004 bill that expanded the protection of the state's 1961 stand-your-ground law to include immunity from civil liability for people who use deadly force to defend themselves or their property. The bill wasn't controversial in the liberal legislature, passing the Senate without dissent and the state House with only two nays before then-Governor Rod Blagojevich, also a Democrat, signed it. ... U.S. Senator Dick Durbin of Illinois, a member of the Judiciary Committee, says he'll hold a subcommittee hearing on the topic this fall. Maybe he should call his former junior colleague as a witness and ask him to explain what message he was seeking to send in 2004." --The Wall Street Journal  login required for WSJ site.
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 12:12:12 pm »

Typical...  We'll see if the main stream media ever gives this story the light of day.
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 12:14:24 pm »

*chuckles* The wind changed direction every day, and so these peoples principles, or at least their "stated" principles do.

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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 04:46:51 pm »

They wake up in a new world every day
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 06:47:41 pm »

They must sleep on the TARDIS
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 08:45:53 am »

I could seriously hijack a TARDIS for a gulch getaway vehicle/ magical disappearing hobbit hole.  Politicians always blow in the wind, Obama is all about furthering his secret socialist totalitarian agenda and will say anything to keep enough of his core constituents attached for a free slave labor force.  When he "Retires" he'll need these sheep to remain relevant in the power broker game.
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 09:52:12 am »

Obama is all about furthering his secret socialist totalitarian agenda

It's a secret? Worst kept secret I ever saw. :(
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 05:57:22 am »

Not if your only information source is the TV.......remember only a small number of people access/use the internet like we do........
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........Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side, a darkside and holds the universe together.  It is theoretically reinforced with strings too.  (The dome has a darkside, lightside and strings of rebar for reinforcement too!)
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 06:05:01 am »

Not if your only information source is the TV.......remember only a small number of people access/use the internet like we do........

I guess that's why the "approval" rating of the pres, congress and even the supreme court is falling like a rock. More people are paying attention all the time. Not perfectly, of course, but increasingly.

Oh, and in addition, TV viewership is dropping fast as well.

It's going to be a wild ride, but we're not the only ones on the bus.
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Re: Stand Whose Ground?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 06:10:57 am »

good.
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........Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side, a darkside and holds the universe together.  It is theoretically reinforced with strings too.  (The dome has a darkside, lightside and strings of rebar for reinforcement too!)
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Most of the time news is about the same old violations of the first principles of consent and golden rule with a dash of force thrown in........ with just enough duct tape to be believable.
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