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[MamaLiberty]

I'm with this guy. I'm all done backing up...

Tyrants Don’t Respond to Peaceful Protests
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/tyrants-dont-respond-peaceful-protests-american-spring-cant-support/

Does this sound like the profile of someone (Barack Obama) who might just decide to do the right thing when you show up with your signs? Do you think that someone who is willing to cover for a government who killed 3000+ Americans on 9/11 is just going to say, “You are right. What were we thinking? We should step down because we are bad for America.”

THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO CONSCIENCE AND WE KEEP ACTING LIKE THEY DO!

[Who...me?]

Everything he says is so very true. But until enough people stand up with determination...and lots of ammo...nothing will ever change.   The main problem is most people are NOT WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs.  Allow me to say that again in another way.  In an armed rebellion a shit load of people will die.  Good guys, bad guys and a whole bunch of those who don't want to get involved. 

Here is the thing.  If tomorrow I decide that I have had enough of this crap and draw a line.  What ever that line is isn't important, but when it crossed I am damn well gonna drop the hammer.  But if several million of my pissed off, no more line crossing brothers and sisters stand up at the same time...you would just see another news story about some crazy redneck, militia, domestic terrorist that did whatever it was that I did and is now occupying a spot in a morgue/holding cell.

[MamaLiberty]

Everything he says is so very true. But until enough people stand up with determination...and lots of ammo...nothing will ever change.   The main problem is most people are NOT WILLING TO DIE for their beliefs.

No, not even close. The problem is what most people actually believe. They believe that the government, the "powers that be" honestly do have legitimate authority to do what they do, even when they don't like what they do. The belief is that they just need to "elect the right people" so their masters won't do those awful things, but nothing changes their perception of the legitimacy of the authority of the "masters" over them. The total incongruity of this is completely lost on most people, unfortunately.

When people accept self ownership, personal responsibility for their own lives and families, and give up the most dangerous superstition of "others" authority over them... THEN we won't need an armed revolution. Atlas will shrug. The PTB cannot survive if nobody will give them the time of day, let along allow the theft of their lives and property. Defending THAT might require an armed response occasionally, but the attitude and beliefs have to change first.

[knobster]

No, not even close. The problem is what most people actually believe. They believe that the government, the "powers that be" honestly do have legitimate authority to do what they do, even when they don't like what they do. The belief is that they just need to "elect the right people" so their masters won't do those awful things, but nothing changes their perception of the legitimacy of the authority of the "masters" over them. The total incongruity of this is completely lost on most people, unfortunately.

+1E100

There are so many people I talk to that say those very words.  "We just need to elect the right people."  "Just wait until the next election."  "We need to get more conservatives in DC."

I'm slooooooowly starting to convince a few of them that it doesn't really matter whether a D or an R is after their name out in Washington.  They are all crooks. 

Excellent article.

[Rarick]

Most of the mainstream I talk too will not buy into anarchy, but the will buy into fewer masters........a smaller govt.....the couple people I have seen go all the way to anarchy started with that premise and rolled down the rest of the hill on their own......

[MamaLiberty]

Most of the mainstream I talk too will not buy into anarchy, but the will buy into fewer masters........a smaller govt.....the couple people I have seen go all the way to anarchy started with that premise and rolled down the rest of the hill on their own......

I've seen far better outcomes since I stopped talking about "anarchy" and started talking only about self ownership, self government, and self responsibility. All of the fears of "anarchy" are actually answered perfectly when people really understand SELF government and SELF defense as being that "smaller government" they've been talking about for so long.

[stainzblue]

I have also learned that I can not use the word anarchy at all. For some reason it scares the heck out of people that are used to being told what to do my their church, their boss, the police, and our dear political leaders.

[Bear]

Bumper stickers for the next election:

"Voting for the lesser of two Evils is still voting for Evil"

"You get what you vote for.'

Bear

[MamaLiberty]

Here's a visual:

On the left, a black slave being whipped, On the right, an old lady on the ground being tasered

Text:  Most politicians still believe they can make slaves of others. They love it when you "vote" and agree with them.

[Byte Me]

Here's a visual:

On the left, a black slave being whipped, On the right, an old lady on the ground being tasered

Text:  Most politicians still believe they can make slaves of others. They love it when you "vote" and agree with them.

That makes for an excellent visual!

I like the visual, but I like more ambiguous text that makes the reader start questioning.

So how about:

On the left, a black slave being whipped; on the right, an old lady on the ground being tasered
Text:  The only difference is her vote


Yes, it could be interpreted that she voted the "wrong" way and should fix it with her next vote.  But hopefully it would present the question of voting validity at all.

[Who...me?]

Lol well mamma that is true...but I want counting the sheeple in the first place

[Byte Me]

Woah scarmig you blew my mind...I was like...I don't remember saying any of that stuff!  Then I saw the edit by line.  I do remember thinking how it could be worded for more impact but that was all in my head!  How'd you get in there?   

I thought the last sentence could have been worded:  They love it when you "vote"; proof enough for them that you agree.

It has to follow the first sentence to maintain the proper context though.

PS You really should have quoted my text and responded under your name rather than editing your words into my post!  No way for an outsider looking in to differentiate what was said by whom and in response to what.

[MamaLiberty]

Woah scarmig you blew my mind...I was like...I don't remember saying any of that stuff!  Then I saw the edit by line.  I do remember thinking how it could be worded for more impact but that was all in my head!  How'd you get in there?   

I thought the last sentence could have been worded:  They love it when you "vote"; proof enough for them that you agree.

It has to follow the first sentence to maintain the proper context though.

PS You really should have quoted my text and responded under your name rather than editing your words into my post!  No way for an outsider looking in to differentiate what was said by whom and in response to what.

Scarmig has not contributed to this thread that I can see... did you mean me?

[MamaLiberty]

On the left, a black slave being whipped; on the right, an old lady on the ground being tasered
Text:  The only difference is her vote

Yes, it could be interpreted that she voted the "wrong" way and should fix it with her next vote.  But hopefully it would present the question of voting validity at all.

No, the "vote" is in the aggregate. Do you think for a moment that the cop tasering the old lady gives a crap how she might have "voted?"
Hell no. He has the POWER and the "AUTHORITAH" and that's all that matters.

There is zero "validity" in voting if one's goal is self ownership and justice.

[Byte Me]

Woah scarmig you blew my mind...I was like...I don't remember saying any of that stuff!  Then I saw the edit by line.  I do remember thinking how it could be worded for more impact but that was all in my head!  How'd you get in there?   

I thought the last sentence could have been worded:  They love it when you "vote"; proof enough for them that you agree.

It has to follow the first sentence to maintain the proper context though.

PS You really should have quoted my text and responded under your name rather than editing your words into my post!  No way for an outsider looking in to differentiate what was said by whom and in response to what.

Scarmig has not contributed to this thread that I can see... did you mean me?

My first post says last edited by scarmig...it was a 1 sentence post:  That makes for an excellent visual!

On the left, a black slave being whipped; on the right, an old lady on the ground being tasered
Text:  The only difference is her vote

Yes, it could be interpreted that she voted the "wrong" way and should fix it with her next vote.  But hopefully it would present the question of voting validity at all.

No, the "vote" is in the aggregate. Do you think for a moment that the cop tasering the old lady gives a crap how she might have "voted?"
Hell no. He has the POWER and the "AUTHORITAH" and that's all that matters.

There is zero "validity" in voting if one's goal is self ownership and justice.

What you're responding to under my name was not written by me...see what I mean when I say people aren't sure what was said by whom in response to what?