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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2014, 07:42:35 pm »

Well so much for the "endangered desert tortoise"

http://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=34100.0

"Desert Tortoise Conservation Center's plan to euthanize hundreds of the tortoises in Nevada by 2014."

You're link goes back to this thread. :laugh:


http://www.dailypaul.com/316447/desert-tortoise-conservation-centers-plan-to-euthanize-hundreds-of-the-tortoises-in-nevada-by-2014
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According to an article dated 8/25/13, in the Las Vegas Huffington Post, because of a lack of Federal funding the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center can no longer care for the turtles that they've been caring for since the animals were added to the endangered species list in 1990 and, as a result, "...Officials expect to euthanize more than half the animals in the coming months in preparation for closure at the end of 2014." "...the pampered desert dweller now faces a threat from the very people who have nurtured it."

Federal funds are running out at the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center and officials plan to close the site and euthanize hundreds of the tortoises that they've been caring for since the animals were added to the endangered species list in 1990, according to the article.
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Now, I was thinking, that would be kind of cool to have one roaming around in the enclosed back yard - apparently they do have an adoption program - don't know why it's not mentioned.  I'm going to call the 'Tortoise Adoption Program' here in AZ on Monday if it still exists.
 
Unfortunately, I suspect prior to adoption BLM, Game & Fish, local Sheriff's dept., local PD, DEQ (Dept. of Environmental Equality) and 10 other agencies will want unrestricted access to my backyard at any time of day.  Additionally, I probably have to sign it up for ObamaTurtleCare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_tortoise
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Desert tortoise populations in some areas have declined by as much as 90% since the 1980s, and the Mojave population is listed as threatened. It is unlawful to touch, harm, harass or collect wild desert tortoises. It is, however, possible to adopt captive tortoises through the Tortoise Adoption Program (TAP) in Arizona, Utah Division of Wildlife Resources Desert Tortoise Adoption Program in Utah, Joshua Tree Tortoise Rescue Project in California, or through Bureau of Land Management in Nevada. When adopted in Nevada, they will have a computer chip embedded on their back for reference. According to Arizona Game and Fish Commission Rule R12-4-407 A.1, they may be possessed if the tortoises are obtained from a captive source which is properly documented. Commission Order 43: Reptile Notes 3: one tortoise per family member.
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Ravens, gila monsters, kit foxes, badgers, roadrunners, coyotes, and fire ants are all natural predators of the desert tortoise. They prey on eggs, juveniles, which are 23 inches long with a thin, delicate shell, or in some cases adults.
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Edit:  Forgot about this new-fangled thing called the internet.

https://www.desertmuseum.org/programs/tap.php

Some req's:

---# Review the yard checklist in appendix I (Tortoise Care & Husbandry link). These are the minimum requirements for your yard to pass inspection.
# Build a pen or make sure your yard is secured with no possibility for escape. Check that your fence is underground at least 5 inches and that there is no route to escape around a gate, drainage hole, etc. A self-locking gate is desirable to prevent escape.
# Provide food for the tortoise in the form of grass or native plants. Irrigation will be necessary, especially for the grass. A roll of sod is often adequate to feed a tortoise, so it is not necessary to have a large grassy area.
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2014, 08:55:36 pm »

I am having a time getting any intel that I can actually use. Being on a dialup connection means I cannot do videos and that seems to be the latest form of reportage going. Has anyone found a text version from any of the folks out in that area?

I don't want to leave my one man business operation here and lose my customers only to get there and find it is just a big kids occupy situation. I am a rifleman and willing to travel to fight tyranny. I don't want to waste time or efforts to just show-up.
What I need is current intel and "pushaline" for my trusty rusty often dusty F 150 IF it is time to go there.
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2014, 09:05:01 pm »

Save your powder Gooch, at least for now.

The JBT's have backed down some, but it is far from over.

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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2014, 09:07:49 pm »

I am having a time getting any intel that I can actually use. Being on a dialup connection means I cannot do videos and that seems to be the latest form of reportage going. Has anyone found a text version from any of the folks out in that area?

I don't want to leave my one man business operation here and lose my customers only to get there and find it is just a big kids occupy situation. I am a rifleman and willing to travel to fight tyranny. I don't want to waste time or efforts to just show-up.
What I need is current intel and "pushaline" for my trusty rusty often dusty F 150 IF it is time to go there.

I wouldn't worry about it at this point.  Politicians are getting in on the action - which is fine I guess.  As others have noted, though, it's weird for the government to back off like this.


http://www.kpho.com/story/25233415/politicians-converge-on-nevada-land-in-support-of-rancher
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PHOENIX (CBS5) -

Members of congress and Arizona lawmakers traveled to Bunkerville, NV, this weekend in support of Cliven Bundy, a Nevada rancher involved in a heated feud with the federal government over cattle on public land.
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State Rep. Kelly Townsend, R- Mesa, is driving to Bundy's Ranch overnight to join other Republicans from around the country.

"I want to go up and defend my fellow Americans. That's just my knee-jerk reaction," Townsend said. "Let me go up there and be with them and see for myself what's happening."

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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 09:26:28 pm »

Gooch, I compiled a text with modest-sized picture view of the Bundy Ranch situation. It very definitely is not over.  Sucker moves are being made... for the suckers.  Do we qualify?  Bundy doesn't.

bundy-ranch-round-1-to-the-good-guys/
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 09:55:12 pm »

Thanks SMS,

I read those other articles and didn't see any reference to a "Chinese Solar Farm" or "Business contracts with BLM".
The Water is a major issue (Water is the Money of the future. You heard it here first.) all over the west and that could be a major portion of the reasoning for this power grab.(?)

I see in your article a reference to a second link (continuation?) but didn't find that link.
Help a crotchety ole curmudgeon out and point it out for me?

I, too, think that this is one of those strategic retreats while they fill out the Step Two forces.
Then they will be back. These are the same people that shoot women in the face, from a distance, even while holding a nursing age child in her arms.
They have no honor nor morals.

Keep us posted? Please?
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2014, 08:41:59 pm »

Thanks Rarick,

I'll go check them out.

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edit to add:

I have decided that I am going to go to Bunkerville and help stand watch over the Bundy Ranch with my brother Oath Keepers. IF anyone between here (Corpus Christi AREA) and there wants to meet up and go along or have me pick up some bottled water and or blankets to carry out there I can do that.
I will be using I-10 to CA 95 to I-15 to Bunkerville unless there is a reason to deviate.
I plan to leave on Saturday to arrive by Monday. old truck - older driver    :rolleyes:
Donations for fuel & bottled water - gladly accepted

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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2014, 09:36:42 pm »

Thanks Rarick,

I'll go check them out.

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edit to add:

I have decided that I am going to go to Bunkerville and help stand watch over the Bundy Ranch with my brother Oath Keepers. IF anyone between here (Corpus Christi AREA) and there wants to meet up and go along or have me pick up some bottled water and or blankets to carry out there I can do that.
I will be using I-10 to CA 95 to I-15 to Bunkerville unless there is a reason to deviate.
I plan to leave on Saturday to arrive by Monday. old truck - older driver    :rolleyes:
Donations for fuel & bottled water - gladly accepted

PM here or at my personal email.

Be safe dude.
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2014, 06:33:35 am »

Indeed, gooch, stay safe.  Or if you can't do that, I know you will shoot straight. God be with you all.
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2014, 09:42:52 am »

Thanks for the well wishes.

This tookus is not the prettiest but its mine ... I intend to keep it.

I have hopes that the week will pass without incident and I will return home safe and sound.
Well ... as sound as I have ever been. There continues to be some long winded discussion on that subject.

I love the way Reid and cronies are calling the defenders "domestic terrorists" when it is his forces that are threatening homes, families and livelihoods with pain, death and destruction.
SOP accuse your enemy of the very hideous things that you are doing so when the dust clears you can claim "They did it".
Typical tyrant propaganda, fodder for the ignorant sheeple.

Unless the PTB has actually shut down the cell nets I should still be in touch but not online.

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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2014, 10:03:53 am »

Mesquite is nearby, I do not know if the casino motels are giving discounts.............  I am waiting to see if/when the shooting starts then I will make a decision.......
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2014, 10:10:13 am »

Mesquite is nearby, I do not know if the casino motels are giving discounts.............  I am waiting to see if/when the shooting starts then I will make a decision.......

Take a tent... the weather is nice right now. :)

After the shooting starts, it might be a bit of a problem getting anywhere near the ranch I'd think. Just be careful.
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Re: Oath Keepers call to arms- Nevada
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2014, 12:11:47 pm »

Mesquite is nearby, I do not know if the casino motels are giving discounts.............  I am waiting to see if/when the shooting starts then I will make a decision.......

Take a tent... the weather is nice right now. :)

After the shooting starts, it might be a bit of a problem getting anywhere near the ranch I'd think. Just be careful.

If it is a guerrilla conflict, he won't have to get close, and it would be better to ambush supply lines anyways. Nothing is more demoralizing to a force that fights to to take and hold land than learning their resupply truck was captured or destroyed by their enemies. I'll be watching this conflict rather than participating, and I hope my friends come out of it unharmed.

Suggested reading for my friends:
Mao's commentary on the Art of War
The Art of War
War on the Run by John Ross (Biography of Robert Rogers, founder of the Army Rangers)
The Book of Five Rings
Any other military manual you can lay your paws on... Look for the English translation of the WWII Japanese night fighting manual and the Anti-vehicle manual made by the Spanish Anarchists from the same period. It may be outdated for armored cars, but will still stop an SUV. In all things, come back alive. The point of war is not to die for your cause, but to make your opponent die for theirs.
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