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No. I have a better idea (details below)

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So THAT's where the old coot went....

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Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 05, 2015, 06:56:24 am

[Moonbeam]

Cherokee, Eagle Eye, other new members, Elias - Not everyone is hostile to OK or police in general. I know some very fine folks who are in that line of work -homicide detectives and sheriffs specifically. I have heard some of their experiences with folks, and they have seen (see) the really ugly side of humanity. The things they have had to deal with... well, I don't know that I would have the stomach to face what they have. I think we all agree that there are some rotten officers who have no business in this line of work -possibly not many options for them outside this either. If it makes you feel any better, I have been accused of all kinds of *nifty* things on these boards (even murder) just because I follow Jesus. I'm not sure why some folks feel the overwhelming need to hold onto their little paint brushes. Not every officer -and certainly not every Christian, deserves a derogatory/slang word thrown at them. Although in general I'm wary of cops and feel it wise to avoid them, I reserve judgment on a individual basis. Of course, I apply this to everyone in any walk of life.

Well, thanks for letting me share! I'm in the thick of things here in Toddler Land so I tend to get a little excited when talking, er, typing to other adults!  Welcome aboard, hang in there, share your thoughts, know you will encounter some mental resistance, know you will have some closet supporters and know there are others who are, um, less hostile...

[Elias Alias]

Thank you Moonbeam.

Ahhh... Civility!

Salute!
Elias

[Tahn L.]

What Moonbeam and Elias said goes for me and WELCOME to all the new folk.

 I see the major difference between good guys and bad guys (cops, politicians and others) are those that believe in persecuting those that violate mala prohibita, (rules made up to control others who have harmed no one). There are several interesting threads concerning that on this wonderful but sometimes rambunctious forum.

Here is one I started but there are many others. Sometimes it goes sideways but that is freedom of expression, which we excel at here. Again WELCOME!

 https://secure.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=34664.0

[Elias Alias]

Awesome, Tahn.
Thank you!

Salute!
Elias

[Jorn]

I am a noob, yet not a stranger to Elias.  YouTube and other media is draining people away from these kinds of forums.  I am sick of YouTube and have no interest in the OathKeepers or Rhodes.  Suggest putting one video on YouTube directing folks to this forum.

[Elias Alias]

I am a noob, yet not a stranger to Elias.  YouTube and other media is draining people away from these kinds of forums.  I am sick of YouTube and have no interest in the OathKeepers or Rhodes.  Suggest putting one video on YouTube directing folks to this forum.

Welcome Jorn. Thank you for registering.
Everything nowadays seems to be in flux. The country at large is not where it was in 2009, and the customary apathy of the past Century has now been buried under an even darker quilt, so that many folks now are just hunkering down and prepping for whatever fate comes to this land we call America. The voice of freedom is muffled more now than it was in 2009. Forums are not as popular as they were then. Social media and YouTube are huge detractors, but also the general stress of a failing economy and political uncertainty is taking its toll on the "voice" of many who were much more vocal just six short years ago. The country seems to be sensing "futility" on every hand, and with pretty good reason to sense that futility.
One of my dear friends just this morning brought up a term I instantly liked -- "intellectual explorer". That, I think, is central to what TMM was created to endorse for everyone back when we formed this online discussion group sixteen years ago. Exploring mentality, exploring psyche, getting familiar with how one's mind works, or, as I used to put it -- "thinking about thinking" -- is probably the best service we here at TMM can offer a crazed and wobbling world.
Enjoy yourself here, Friend.
Salute!
Elias

[Jake]

I am sick of YouTube and have no interest in the OathKeepers or Rhodes.

YouTube, I understand a little.  I don't go there unless it fits my needs at the moment.  As far as the OathKeepers, it had become a natural fit for me logically for the sign-of-the-times today and in what I was doing prior to knowing the OathKeepers.  In other words the true essence of what OathKeepers were doing is what I had been doing for years.

As for Rhodes, I don't really know him except of what he is trying to do with the development of OathKeepers, which I feel is necessary for The People.

What causes your axe grinding with the OathKeepers?  If you don't mind explaining.

[Elias Alias]

What causes your axe grinding with the OathKeepers?  If you don't mind explaining.

He did not grind on an axe, he just said he's not interested, right?
Thanks,
Salute!
Elias

[Jorn]

There is a new batch of folks waking up.  The abnormal Guns sales tells all what we need to know.  Everyone is on a list and the more lists you are on, the higher you score on a Threat Matrix.  Only ' radical', or more accurately, traditional American types end up here.  What could we image is our Threat Matrix Score?  I assume everything I say is available to the Feds and soon they will be hunting us.  Better to educate new patriots now so we can better turn the tables on them later... should they be stooopid enough to hunt us...

[Rarick]

I read the first five pages of this thread and decided to skip ahead and post.

I came here from Oath Keepers. Still with Oath Keepers by the way.

Over there, I was challenged at times for being a cop basher/hater. I made my best attempts to explain that bad cops do bad things and that is why Oath Keepers exists,....to remind bad cops to be good,....to honor their oath and not blindly follow illegal orders.

Many Oath Keepers over there agreed with me. Many did not.

Dividing into two different camps over whether cops are good or bad seems a little silly to me.

If a cop honors his oath and does the right things (Frank Serpico), he is a good cop.

If a cop dishonors his oath and does dishonorable things, he is a bad cop.

I was often called onto the carpet during my twenty year military career for challenging my chain of command while others worked hard at not being noticed while they skated their way to retirement.

I retired with my integrity intact and I sleep good.

I am an Oath Keeper. I have been down the rabbit hole....very, very deep down the rabbit hole.

I have seen a few comments that suggests Oath Keepers are mindless thugs on the take. The very purpose of Oath Keepers is to prevent the mindless thugs from being so. Would it not stand to reason that most Oath Keepers members are the ones who get it?

I took the time to read the history of The Mental Militia. I was quite impressed. I believed that here is a long running endeavor that has evolved to exactly where it should be because good people with great minds have made it so. Then I got to the not so pleasant comments about Oath Keepers and wondered how can this forum be as enlightened as it's membership claims? I have read some absolutely brilliant stuff on the Oath Keepers forums.

I don't say these things to start a flame war. I say them because I am a person who spends many hours every day researching, reading, learning, and working to share ideas....and then I nearly quit this forum as fast as I found it.

But I will not leave this forum until I have given it a fair chance to show me why it has survived for so long. There is either something substantial here, or there are a handful of nut jobs who just don't know when to quit. No, I doubt that a bunch of loonies could pull this off for so long, so you all are stuck with me...at least for awhile.

Same here Cherokee. Though I've never been a cop, I almost pulled out after reading some of the comments on this site. Yep, there are bad cops and I can appreciate each of us has our own reasons for believing as we do. I have even faced off with one or two in my life and was fortunate enough a good one was nearby. Still, At the age of 65, I refuse to put all of a certain race or occupation into some all encompassing statement. Even though I disagree with those types of statements, I fought for the right for the writer to say whatever they want. Whether they like it or not. So, here I am. A free man willing to listen.

My hope is to learn and share ideas. Wisdom is gained though patient, civil discourse. It's too easy to go off the rails of misunderstanding on a 2 dimentional format like this. I don't bite much. I chew. 

What often gets overlooked is that the BAD subset often gets focused on more than the good subset.  Bad cops are what gets the generic reference as cops.  If you do not remember that detail, it can seem like some people and a majority here, have a psychosis-like issue when it comes to them and cops. 

I can count on the fingers of both hands the number of times I have had to deal with cops, and only 3 of those times ended in any kind of professionalism.  I am one of those that regards them as a sad necessity and I honestly believe that if we eliminated the "Bottom 25%" we would not need them at all. 

[FDD]

Sorry but I do not see the need for any police.

if every person took responsibly for their own safety and actions, then there would be less crime every where.

but that is my .02   

[Scarmiglione']

Sorry but I do not see the need for any police.

if every person took responsibly for their own safety and actions, then there would be less crime every where.

but that is my .02

I would suggest that if even 50% did, we wouldn't need cops.

But they don't.  So we do.

[slidemansailor]

Open-minded thinkers are a threat to totalitarian rulers.
The Mental Militia is a threat to totalitarian rulers.

To think there are not some full-time employees of the ruling elite here on this site would be naive.  They are going to try to pit us against each other, entice us to wander far afield and other mischief.

Couple that with an incredible variety of real threats and mischief pouring over society and it is easy to sow confusion and discord via honorable and dishonorable participants in this forum.

The Mental Militia will have some negativity and unpleasantness in it. That is unavoidable.  Put on your big boy pants and deal with the real world here. There are a lot of good people sharing some fine thinking.

[kirgi07]

    Ought 7.

[FDD]

Boy, that nail will not stay down. will it