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Does the membership of TMM want to turn Elias loose to recruit new members?

Yes! Go for it.
- 24 (75%)
No, leave TMM as it is
- 6 (18.8%)
No. I have a better idea (details below)
- 1 (3.1%)
So THAT's where the old coot went....
- 1 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 05, 2015, 06:56:24 am


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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #105 on: December 14, 2014, 06:33:26 pm »

    Have a giant ego and stick around just to argue with us.

dgg9 where are you?
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #106 on: December 14, 2014, 09:55:21 pm »

What if I agree AND have a giant ego?

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2014, 10:13:42 pm »

What if I agree AND have a giant ego?

...no, I think I'd pee on an electric fence before I'd answer that. :wub:
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2014, 04:40:22 pm »

I am coming late to this thread, indeed I have not participated in any discussion here of late. I was off the entire net for almost a year but I remember my entry to this forum and wow, what an experience. I was excited and thrilled to learn I was not alone and crazy but that a lot of people thought just like I did. Well, almost like I did. Claire was the reason I came here but others were the reason I stayed. Too many to list.

I remember when we tried to engage in discussion and debate with both Peace Officers and Law Enforcement Officers and I draw a distinct difference between them. It ain't the badge, it's the attitude. Sometimes it worked and sometimes we were met with angry words, sometimes with astute questions and sometimes with silence. I remember starting a thread asking both types to state their oaths they took and what they meant to each. No takers but later Stewart started Oath Keepers and I contributed a small amount to the organization, although I certainly claim no part in creating the idea. I so admire what he and others have done.

In reviewing a few of my early posts, which I recommend we all do, (not mine but yours) I still feel that a dialog with them is critically important. Ideas can change more minds than ballots or bullets, so count me in. They cannot change my views about freedom but perhaps we can change their views on what a free society should be. Lets rock and roll with words, concepts and most importantly with the philosophy of a free people.

 Peace, Love and Brotherhood Through Equal Rights and Firepower.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2014, 11:43:58 pm »

I am coming late to this thread, indeed I have not participated in any discussion here of late. I was off the entire net for almost a year but I remember my entry to this forum and wow, what an experience. I was excited and thrilled to learn I was not alone and crazy but that a lot of people thought just like I did. Well, almost like I did. Claire was the reason I came here but others were the reason I stayed. Too many to list.

I remember when we tried to engage in discussion and debate with both Peace Officers and Law Enforcement Officers and I draw a distinct difference between them. It ain't the badge, it's the attitude. Sometimes it worked and sometimes we were met with angry words, sometimes with astute questions and sometimes with silence. I remember starting a thread asking both types to state their oaths they took and what they meant to each. No takers but later Stewart started Oath Keepers and I contributed a small amount to the organization, although I certainly claim no part in creating the idea. I so admire what he and others have done.

In reviewing a few of my early posts, which I recommend we all do, (not mine but yours) I still feel that a dialog with them is critically important. Ideas can change more minds than ballots or bullets, so count me in. They cannot change my views about freedom but perhaps we can change their views on what a free society should be. Lets rock and roll with words, concepts and most importantly with the philosophy of a free people.

 Peace, Love and Brotherhood Through Equal Rights and Firepower.
Tahn

It's great to see you Tahn. I have not been around here much myself in recent years -- Oath Keepers keeps me very busy, and so do the two cats I live with. ;)

Thank you for a strong good post on the topic. Merry Christmas to you and yours, btw.

Salute!
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #110 on: December 22, 2014, 01:40:01 am »

Lets rock and roll with words, concepts and most importantly with the philosophy of a free people.

Peace, Love and Brotherhood Through Equal Rights and Firepower.
Tahn


If you came up with that, I'm so putting that to use, that's perfect!  (Unless you mind?

Reminds me of the Doom 3 Plasma Rifle commercial.   "UAC, making safer worlds through suuuu-perior firepower."
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #111 on: December 22, 2014, 01:13:13 pm »

Elias, Thank you for your positive thoughts and actions. Best wishes to you and yours.

Destin Faruda,

 I am so old I can no longer remember what is original and what I nave read or heard before. I can however give you my quit claim on anything I say that can be used to promote freedom. Feel free.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #112 on: January 03, 2015, 04:11:15 pm »

Are we done with this discussion? It would seem that everyone at TMM who is actually interested in participation is good with Elias going ahead with his plans.

If there are serious objections, speak now or hold your peace.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #113 on: January 03, 2015, 06:19:43 pm »

First day back after nearly a month without any connection. (long story)

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Don't quit Oath Keepers, Bro, just add this place to your daily travels, right? Oath Keepers is doing a wonderful job for this country. I'm trying to get TMM off its ass to do something comparable, which is what this thread is all about. We'll see how it goes with the membership here.

And yet Elias has also said that what we wanted to do here either way was no big deal to him because he already had an alternate website ready to go. ? ?

So ... Whatever the rest of you want to do I will go along until I am not interested any longer.
In My Humble Opinion ... Living Free is task enough for me.
Oh, I'll help educate any that ask but I don't envision myself as any kind of "savior" unless it's to haul out someone drowning nearby.
I tried being a National Figure (attempting to save the Constitution) and all it did was spend my money. (and other peoples money as well)

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #114 on: January 09, 2015, 04:06:42 am »

Are we done with this discussion? It would seem that everyone at TMM who is actually interested in participation is good with Elias going ahead with his plans.

If there are serious objections, speak now or hold your peace.

Well, ML, there have been five votes against opening this place up for more traffic and participation, so for that reason and others, I'm not sure if we should close this discussion. In fact, I'm not sure why the idea came up to give this discussion a time limit. But maybe I'm not seeing everything peripheral, or am missing something.

I think that at the heart of my discussion recently here at TMM is my lament that the very name "The Mental Militia" has so much inherent potential, yet this place is not doing much to utilize that potential. I am working with James Jaeger and Edwin Vieira to produce a new documentary on "martial law". It is based on Dr. Vieira's newest book, "By Tyranny Out Of Necessity: The Bastardy of Martial Law". The book lays out the four types of martial law, including martial governance, and reports on what the Constitution has to say about each sort of martial law. He says, and shows clearly, that the remedy for the coming tyranny we're facing in America today is the revitalization of the Constitutional "Militia of the several States". And here sits a "Mental Militia" which is bleeding members ever since Claire renamed this place and found other fields in which to play (and work). I think that was in 2007. 

We could be doing so much more with the name. While this place is still operational I can't very well start up another operation elsewhere and name it The Mental Militia, right? But I'm stuck with the knowledge that The Mental Militia is exactly what I'm fired up to promote as the vehicle in which to drive this nation's freedom movement into the concepts of Dr. Vieira's books.  Everything starts in the mind, does it not? We are in a mental war, what our dear government calls "MindWar", and our survival as free people (what's left of it) now depends on our outsmarting the most powerful conglomerates on the planet, a tandem which includes not only the pigs who've stolen our Constitutional government inside that beltway but also the money whores of the international banking cartel who sponsor the United Nations. The American people, to have a chance at all, must be alerted to the Constitutional requirements that they exercise their duty to be armed individually and as Militia, in each State in compact.

Right now, Oath Keepers is the only organization calling for the revitalization of the Constitutional Militia. My idea for this place is to turn it into an intellectual hub where freedom rings and where the process of reclaiming our lost freedom can begin lawfully, legally, and legitimately with a movement which will totally piss the powers that be, but which they cannot argue against with any validity. Right here at TMM is where the groundwork could be laid-in for all States to resurrect their long-lost Militia. The very name of this place guarantees that it could provoke interest nationally. We could initiate programs, activities, and projects to drive us closer to fulfillment of such goals. The potential is huge.

That is another glimpse of what my "plans" might entail. This place loves guns, loves freedom, loves philosophical anarchy, Voluntaryism, unobstructed free speech, freedom of/from religion, (in fact, if we ask L. Neil Smith, our kind of folks love the full Bill of Rights and even those rights which are not enumerated), and the blessings of liberty. The Bill of Rights is part of the Constitution. The Constitution clearly mandates that the Federal government FUND the Militia of the several States to ensure that the States have their Militia.  But nobody outside of Vieira's circles seems to notice that. He points out that Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 and 16 are in the main body of the Constitution,  and so also is Article II, Section 2, clause 1. That is all before we get to the Bill of Rights and its Second Amendment. It is the highest uncontested law of the land, and the whole goddamned government is totally ignoring it -- because, as we've proved here a hundred times over, our government has been stolen by powers which use our elected and representative offices for their own wicked goals, which include controlling us, which includes getting our guns, period. That is the battle which only the Militia, well organized, well trained, well funded, and widely in place, can win. Talk about a challenge for We The People! Jeez!

And now here comes Edwin Vieira and James Jaeger with a movie named to commemorate Paul Revere's "Midnight Ride" while exposing the martial law hoax for what it is, and it's got Ron Paul, G. Edward Griffin, Stewart Rhodes, KrisAnne Hall, Chuck Baldwin, Larry Pratt and others on board, and their movie is damn straight a blast at the heart of tyranny, and it's all about why America must revitalize the Militia within the States. It may be synchronicity, or whatever, but it's happening right now and here we sit twiddling our thumbs whilst going over twenty thousand tons of valuable free-thinking info which packs the archives of this place, but "doing" nothing. Remember Sunni Maravillosa? She was an Admin here when Claire had this place. She built an "E-Magazine" named "Doing Freedom". I'm sure some here remember that. But where is it today? What's happening with Don Lobo Tiggre and the Liberty Round Table? Or any of a hundred other ventures? This place will either adapt as changing years drift by, or it will wilt and blow away like a dead leaf in autumn. Unless we "do" something with it.

That is some of my thinking. There is support across America right now for what I'm thinking. So I want to see TMM play out its proper role in destiny. I do not know why every member here would not want to be a part of that. For that reason, I do think it bears more discussion.

Love ya, MamaLiberty!

Salute!
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #115 on: January 09, 2015, 04:50:17 am »

First day back after nearly a month without any connection. (long story)

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Don't quit Oath Keepers, Bro, just add this place to your daily travels, right? Oath Keepers is doing a wonderful job for this country. I'm trying to get TMM off its ass to do something comparable, which is what this thread is all about. We'll see how it goes with the membership here.

And yet Elias has also said that what we wanted to do here either way was no big deal to him because he already had an alternate website ready to go. ? ?

So ... Whatever the rest of you want to do I will go along until I am not interested any longer.
In My Humble Opinion ... Living Free is task enough for me.
Oh, I'll help educate any that ask but I don't envision myself as any kind of "savior" unless it's to haul out someone drowning nearby.
I tried being a National Figure (attempting to save the Constitution) and all it did was spend my money. (and other peoples money as well)

stay safe

Hey Gooch,
I've just laid out a bit more of my thinking in the previous post which I just now made to ML. Please read that if you would. For the record, I'd rather use TMM here and share the fun with our good friends here, but I was trying to not put undue pressure about it on the regular members here.

And yes, I do have a website, thanks to Rags and Bill. I just don't have time to load it, lol.

Sample page by our newest member here at TMM, Cyrellys:
https://eliasalias.com/2014/11/17/cyrellys-old-world-celt/

It would be much easier to build a mother-site for these forums and already have TMM's forums up and running with all these years' worth of intelligence, human egoism, knowledge and history, at our fingertips, y'kno?

Sorry you shot your wad on Oath Keepers and now regret it. Hate to hear that, Bro. I'm very proud of the work Oath Keepers does, such as helping sponsor this film:

http://www.midnightride.us/trailer/

(Am also sorry you cannot view that movie trailer. Here's hoping this year brings you some financial relief. If you want to make that happen, or to let it happen, perhaps helping TMM launch the Militia of the several States to combat the militarization of our police which will usher in martial law.

Maybe everything is hopeless, but as long as I draw breath, I will do all I can to oppose tyranny. I think that same fire is buried somewhere inside you too. ;)

Salute!
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #116 on: January 09, 2015, 05:41:55 am »

Elias, I'm curious just how you envision the US government "funding" any militia without theft and coercion? Should it not rather be funded voluntarily?

Anyway, there is no actual time limit, but when people stop even making comments it would indicate all have spoken their mind on the subject and are waiting for "us" to do something. Far as I'm concerned, the ball is in your court. Bring in all these new members you speak of and let's see what happens. You can't really expect agreement with your proposal to be unanimous here, and I think that 21 out of the thirty or so actually active members is not too bad.

Go for it...
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« Reply #117 on: January 09, 2015, 06:49:00 am »

Elias, I'm curious just how you envision the US government "funding" any militia without theft and coercion? Should it not rather be funded voluntarily?

Anyway, there is no actual time limit, but when people stop even making comments it would indicate all have spoken their mind on the subject and are waiting for "us" to do something. Far as I'm concerned, the ball is in your court. Bring in all these new members you speak of and let's see what happens. You can't really expect agreement with your proposal to be unanimous here, and I think that 21 out of the thirty or so actually active members is not too bad.

Go for it...

MamaLiberty, I'll be glad to go into the "funding" aspect of the government's responsibility to the States, but I can't go there at this moment -- will come back to that shortly.

Regarding your observations that about seventy-plus percent of the votes are in favor of livening up this place and that the thread has ceased to attract new readers, I'll accept your call on that. I see that you have created a sub-forum for MindWar, so that will be a good place for me to start up the Resistance movement, lol! Thanks ML.

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« Reply #118 on: January 11, 2015, 09:17:40 pm »

Well, I've just plowed through 8 pages of discussion that I just now found.  Sorry about being such an inactive member.

As was alluded to, when Claire left the tenor here changed (or so I thought) and since I was not contributing much anyway my visits got fewer and fewer.  I ended up on Facebook in order to keep up with nieces and nephews, and I read/learn and re-post info from a 2nd Amendment group, the Zelman partisans, USCCA and a few others, but I'm not really *doing* anything.

Elias, as others have stated, without previous knowledge of the actual term MindWar, I am certainly aware that these kinds of activities are in full engagement throughout society, and I try to recognize it when I can.

All that being said, I now will 'vote' to open the fora to one and all, with the caveats (mutual respect, thick skins, etc) mentioned, and there are some people on FB and locally to whom I will extend invitations, probably with ML's nicely written flyer.

And after voting I will move to the new (whatever you call it) for your MindWar threads.

cl
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« Reply #119 on: January 11, 2015, 09:43:16 pm »

Well, I've just plowed through 8 pages of discussion that I just now found.  Sorry about being such an inactive member.

As was alluded to, when Claire left the tenor here changed (or so I thought) and since I was not contributing much anyway my visits got fewer and fewer.  I ended up on Facebook in order to keep up with nieces and nephews, and I read/learn and re-post info from a 2nd Amendment group, the Zelman partisans, USCCA and a few others, but I'm not really *doing* anything.

Elias, as others have stated, without previous knowledge of the actual term MindWar, I am certainly aware that these kinds of activities are in full engagement throughout society, and I try to recognize it when I can.

All that being said, I now will 'vote' to open the fora to one and all, with the caveats (mutual respect, thick skins, etc) mentioned, and there are some people on FB and locally to whom I will extend invitations, probably with ML's nicely written flyer.

And after voting I will move to the new (whatever you call it) for your MindWar threads.

cl

Wow, CL -- it's nice to see you. Thank you for keeping the candle burning...
Hope you enjoy that MindWar thread. I also hope you'll chip in with a comment or two, eh?  ;)

Salute!
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