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Does the membership of TMM want to turn Elias loose to recruit new members?

Yes! Go for it.
- 24 (75%)
No, leave TMM as it is
- 6 (18.8%)
No. I have a better idea (details below)
- 1 (3.1%)
So THAT's where the old coot went....
- 1 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: March 05, 2015, 06:56:24 am


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Bill St. Clair

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #180 on: May 07, 2015, 09:48:32 am »

No, no, no it is a long thin snake-like animal with a tuft of coarse hair on the end everyone who has touched one can feel that ...   :laugh: :laugh:  :thrbiggrin:

Glad my reference was not too obtuse.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #181 on: April 07, 2016, 11:30:37 pm »

I see a bunch of senior membership here.  I don't see anything that scares me.  I would like to see the strategies formed that would help to guarantee liberty and freedom.  Of course, I probably responded to a think tank instead of proper thread.  . . . and yes, I am from Oath Keepers.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #182 on: April 07, 2016, 11:45:27 pm »

I see a bunch of senior membership here.  I don't see anything that scares me.  I would like to see the strategies formed that would help to guarantee liberty and freedom.  Of course, I probably responded to a think tank instead of proper thread.  . . . and yes, I am from Oath Keepers.

Hi Jake!
Thank you for dropping by. No, we don't "bite", but we are a much more diversified group than our pals over at Oath Keepers. However, this is the place where Stewart Rhodes met me, back in 2006, and he and I have both been much to busy to be very active here until just lately. The first forum for Oath Keepers was right here on our forums, which you can see here:

https://secure.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?board=60.0

A number of our older members here also went to help Stewart launch Oath Keepers. Gooch was an original Board member at OK, as was I, (I'm still the editor for Oath Keepers' national site), and Klapton is a Moderator at the Oath Keepers forums. They, and others here, are members in Oath Keepers. But we also have anarchists, Voluntaryists, free-thinkers, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, 2nd Amendment advocates, Constitutionalists, philosophers and thinkers, etc etc. So just be prepared to run into any kind of commentary, but be strong and offer your own views right back, eh? ;)

Thanks again for registering. And for a quick history of The Mental Militia, please go here -- 

https://thementalmilitia.net/2015/12/12/history-of-the-mental-militia/

Salute!
Elias Alias, editor for Oath Keepers and The Mental Militia


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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #183 on: April 08, 2016, 01:16:10 am »

Glad to see you two connect up. Great!!   :laugh:
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #184 on: April 08, 2016, 02:29:28 am »

Roger.
And I've got a feeling there's gonna be a lot of connecting up here.
That could only be a good thing.
And it could be, maybe possibly prolly -- that we're all already connected anyway.  ;)
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #185 on: April 08, 2016, 03:11:51 pm »

This Antifascist Action Organizer doesn't dance around the subject of pigs. I say bring on the LEOs.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #186 on: April 08, 2016, 03:49:00 pm »

This Antifascist Action Organizer doesn't dance around the subject of pigs. I say bring on the LEOs.

Ah, so.
And this Antifascist / AntiCollectivist / AntiTyranny activist understands that we don't paint groups with broad brushes. There are some outstanding Sheriffs and Cops who are inside the belly of the Beast but are on the side of freedom. I know several of those good men and women, and they do not deserve the term "pigs" anymore than do you or I. There are, however, many more who do deserve that title, and I've met some of those too. And I am totally "Anti-Police State", like, as in, totally!
So I recommend we deal with individuals as individuals, and shy away from classifying every member in any group as representative of the whole group, right?
One other thing for everyone's general baking sessions at 4:20 -- we want to encourage everyone to see a difference between "Peace Officers" and "LEOs". Law enforcement is what pigs do. Being a Peace Officer is what good cops do.

Thanks Bro.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #187 on: April 08, 2016, 04:05:28 pm »

So I recommend we deal with individuals as individuals, and shy away from classifying every member in any group as representative of the whole group, right?

Yes indeed, and I'm just the gal to see that your recommendation is followed. Those who start flame wars and indulge in personal attackes and name calling will not be tolerated...

It's easy to do, and I've done it myself at times, but for here and now especially we need to toss out the old, broad brushes and get ready to cooperate as much as possible. :) Let's concentrate on where we agree, what we need to further the cause of liberty instead of indulging in negatives and stereotypes. Of course we can disagree, but we really need to do so in a rational and positive way.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #188 on: April 08, 2016, 04:20:49 pm »

tossing out the old broad?  you leaving Mama?
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #189 on: April 08, 2016, 05:50:04 pm »

This Antifascist Action Organizer doesn't dance around the subject of pigs. I say bring on the LEOs.

Ah, so.
And this Antifascist / AntiCollectivist / AntiTyranny activist understands that we don't paint groups with broad brushes. There are some outstanding Sheriffs and Cops who are inside the belly of the Beast but are on the side of freedom. I know several of those good men and women, and they do not deserve the term "pigs" anymore than do you or I. There are, however, many more who do deserve that title, and I've met some of those too. And I am totally "Anti-Police State", like, as in, totally!
So I recommend we deal with individuals as individuals, and shy away from classifying every member in any group as representative of the whole group, right?
One other thing for everyone's general baking sessions at 4:20 -- we want to encourage everyone to see a difference between "Peace Officers" and "LEOs". Law enforcement is what pigs do. Being a Peace Officer is what good cops do.

Thanks Bro.
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Elias

Never heard of a good one. Of all the stories out there about cops, I've never seen a good one.
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #190 on: April 08, 2016, 06:31:41 pm »

It's a big country, and no one can claim to have met every body out there. I *do* know some good ones. We can view the good ones as one of Claire's three operators -- the Mole. More on all that laters. First, I'd like to say this --

Some people here figured (jumped to conclusions based on pre-conceived notions about Oath Keepers) that all the new folks I am inviting to come here would be cops and soldiers and Veterans. That ain't even close. My goodness! I'm inviting followers of Patrick Wood, G. Edward Griffin, Edwin Vieira, Mike Adams, and the list goes on and on -- none of which are involved with Oath Keepers. As I noted, it's a big country out there, and there are lots of people awakening right now. The handful of newbies who may show up here from Oath Keepers are people who have a desire for more open communications about where the country is heading right now, and that is fine. But most of the newbies who will be coming here are from many other organizations or email lists. I hope that allays some fears here about the perception that I'm only drawing from Oath Keepers.

The Mental Militia began as an open forum for diverse thought. That has not changed. The more diversity, the better, imo. It is a mistake to categorize all members of any group by any means, as being the "same". Example: I am a Veteran, and was hired after leaving the Marines by the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department. I quit quickly when they showed their desire for militarizing the Deputies. I suggest strongly that we here look at people coming in here as individuals, and try not to project "group" cubby-hole standard imagery onto them. We are talking to individuals here, not to groups, right?

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #191 on: April 08, 2016, 06:36:47 pm »

So I recommend we deal with individuals as individuals, and shy away from classifying every member in any group as representative of the whole group, right?

Yes indeed, and I'm just the gal to see that your recommendation is followed. Those who start flame wars and indulge in personal attackes and name calling will not be tolerated...

It's easy to do, and I've done it myself at times, but for here and now especially we need to toss out the old, broad brushes and get ready to cooperate as much as possible. :) Let's concentrate on where we agree, what we need to further the cause of liberty instead of indulging in negatives and stereotypes. Of course we can disagree, but we really need to do so in a rational and positive way.

Amen!
Thank you, Sistah!
Carry on. ;)
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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #192 on: April 09, 2016, 06:40:13 am »


Never heard of a good one. Of all the stories out there about cops, I've never seen a good one.

I guess that's because you are closing your eyes to that. I've posted a number of times about the "good ones" here where I live. The sheriff and his deputies here are definitely "peace officers," and the tiny group of city police here don't indulge in aggression either. Are they perfect? Of course not. Are they going to learn better if they are hated and ridiculed? Not likely.

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #193 on: April 09, 2016, 06:59:48 am »

Well said, ML.

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Re: Revitalizing TMM (Poll)
« Reply #194 on: April 09, 2016, 10:44:13 am »

Hi guys,

I am from OK and glad for the invite.  There is nothing like changing from stew 24/7 to sumtin different like coming here.  I had only been in OK since the first of the year, during the OR standoff.  I had move 500 miles after loosing my job and spending all my retirement to build my last home in a location that matched my dreams.

I am in a small valley that has less than 20 homes.  My setback is a two mile driveway and loving not having utility bills.  Once here and in light of the demise of the union, I found like minded people that wanted to stay in touch and then moving to form a team to respond to different happenings in our little valley.  For about a year we talked about political grumblings and reached consensus on our responses.

Then I found OK.  They were doing the same; forming teams, educating of what may come, and how to respond to it collectively.  It was a natural fit for me.

What I have read above does not fit the characteristics of the OK members.  Those mannerisms you folks mentioned about the jack boot attitude associated with LEO's, I believe belong to LEO's that would not like to join OK and more of the progressive action attitudes.  They are not constitutionally, behaving individuals.  If you had problems with LEO's before, then the broad brush action you take, is based upon just your experiences and not of the collective.  I think your position is probably isolated to your surroundings and not of the union as a whole.

It encourages me to say, "get out of the cities".
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