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Re: MindWar
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2014, 07:41:42 pm »

I have read of  Vallely and aquino and was aware of the  attempted association of Vallely with satanism. I was therefore leary of Vallely, just shows how powerful this stuff is.
Vallely was the idea guy behind the march on mordor, which fizzled. One of the ways used to discredit him was the satanism angle.
 BTW Elias Jamie is the name of our Belgian Malinous senior guy, a fine gentleman , who graciously allowed me to use his name.
I have to say that I missed your long posts on the whole NWO stuff and glad you are back.
i never had to be convinced though. Back in the dark ages before the internet, I met a guy who had an intellect that I respected.  He set out to debunk all the illuminati, etc etc.
I saw him a year of so later. He said the more I got into it, the more I was convinced it is real. He said and here I am paraphrasing, it actually frightened me, the extent of the evil. Enough so that I quit, not out of fear but sheer loathing.
And of course I have done my own investigation of sorts. Report from Iron mountain, creature from jekyll island and so on.
 military and gubmint experiences didn't exactly fill me full of confidence either.

I actually studied what LaVey preached (what people call Satanism, the actual established religion.  Remember I was once a member of the Christian church... by force of childhood inculcation, no less, I re-left again recently, thanks to yet more political infighting and lying to the membership about the real reasons for a decision, in what I thought was a Christian church above such bullshit..  When attending the Christian church, way back when I was more Baptist attendee than anything else (forced by family to attend), I wanted to "know my enemy" and I found out that what they taught and what others said about them, wasn't quite exactly the same.  So accusations of "satanism" aren't exactly chief on my list of things to worry about.  Most of those guys want to get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone, and feel special, important and valuable.   So they're basically just human beings who decided they needed a religion to feel complete, and were probably raised in strict super christian families and REBELLED.  That's a very evil word in the bible.  Obedience, being the only good one.)

As for the "author" of the religion, LaVey was a hedonist of the first degree.  However, he knew that Satan has been inculcated into people so much, that people fear a stupid name, for a stupid concept, which, if you notice, is what?  Rebellion?  Refusal to obey?  So he came up with something he could pitch to the rebellious to still keep them under the umbrella of a religion.

I didn't see cute fluffy animal sacrifices in the stuff I was privy to.  I didn't see "conquer the world" or any other of this crap I read about on shit like InfoWars.

HOWEVER!!!  I'm not a fan because its all based on the same faulty reasoning and misinterpretations and misrepresentations as the opposing and very dominant sect of Dominus (that'd be Lord for you non latin types.)

Those who assume that "Satanists" are puppy killing, grave robbing, child sacrificing, child raping asshats, are forgetting something.  It was the Abrahamists who were more prone to murdering kids.  First borns of all of egypt, for that matter, supposedly murdered by the hidden secret security answering to Moses.  (The logistics of how they verified the murders so quickly, and how they were verified to have only killed first borns (explains the lambs blood on the door, I figure supernatural beings didn't need those signs, but human assassins would), says the Pharaoh had one hell of a powerful grapevine!).

I hear accusations of "satanism" and I immediately begin to consider the source an irrational "religionist" or "abrahamist" punitive control freakist sect of "freedom for me, but not for thee" group.  And control freakism is Dominus' realm, not some puny servant with delusions of grandeur, elevated to power by Neo Zoroastrians who needed an "enemy" (their own Report from Iron Mountain variant) back in the days when Babylon still had the equivalent of a zip code.  Satan was a name which is still common out east, even in the modern day, just like Jesus is a common name amongst Latinos.  In the west, the name has been inculcated into the masses to inspire such outright fear, distrust and images of a Satyr with a Pitchfork, that the moment those accusations are flung, people stop actually looking at the REAL EVIL in front of them, and immediately focus on the target of the accusation for supposedly worshiping Satan and wanting to inflict DOMINATION (remember Dominus) upon others.  But wait... if one reads Genesis and Exodus, its FULL of accounts of slaughters and murders and inflictions of DOMINATION on other tribes, and not because Satan commanded, but because Dominus, The LORD commanded.  EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)

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Re: MindWar
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2014, 07:19:58 am »

Beside get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone :mellow:, I think some of them just do it to mess with the large faction of "Christians" that are pompous hypocrites. TPIB are divinely engineered don't ya know?
There's no fanatic like a religulous fanatic.
As for Wyoming being (or being morphed into) an anarcho capitalistic (whatever) Nirvana, all you really need to know has it's underpinnings in the Johnson County War.
same as it ever was   
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2014, 11:34:27 am »

<snip>But wait... if one reads Genesis and Exodus, its FULL of accounts of slaughters and murders and inflictions of DOMINATION on other tribes, and not because Satan commanded, but because Dominus, The LORD commanded.  EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)


Explanation?  For God commanding His people to kill? 

God is the creator of all things.  All of us fall short of His glory.  None of us deserve His mercy.  Was it unfair that 99.99% of the people perished during the flood?  Nope.  It was just, only one man found grace.
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2014, 12:01:00 pm »

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

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Re: MindWar
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2014, 02:32:44 pm »

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

I'll second that motion...
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2014, 02:40:54 pm »

Beside get laid, stoned, wasted, drunk, left the hell alone :mellow:, I think some of them just do it to mess with the large faction of "Christians" that are pompous hypocrites. TPIB are divinely engineered don't ya know?
There's no fanatic like a religulous fanatic.
As for Wyoming being (or being morphed into) an anarcho capitalistic (whatever) Nirvana, all you really need to know has it's underpinnings in the Johnson County War.
same as it ever was

Yeah exactly my point!!!  Say, wanna buy a property in Wyoming?  I divested of the other things I was invested in, out here.  Just need to sell this last one so I can move to an evil anti gun place with higher taxes.  Cheap, I'll sell at buying cost plus improvements, about 60 grand.  Lot, house, shed, shop, back fence, landscaping (did it myself, no less.)  Only thing I'm not leaving is my warehouse stock and servers.  I'll even leave the house wired up (jacks to every room, phone, data, high speed data, miniature telco closet/board, etc.)
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2014, 02:46:53 pm »

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In a footnote on page 26 of his 2013 book entitled “MindWar”, Aquino says that he and Sutter had seen the movie Star Wars in 1977 and “…we imagined a play on its name as a futuristic replacement for the bland Army term “Psychological Operations”.

Bastards!  :angry:
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2014, 02:57:34 pm »

I'm with you, Klatpon. Destin you have your very own thread to share your personal frustrations, remember?! : http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=33922.0

As for the Satanic angle for some of the Elite and et al - it make sense to me. It seems a logical explanation for such hatred, apathy and delusions.
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2014, 03:01:12 pm »

I'm with you, Klatpon. Destin you have your very own thread to share your personal frustrations, remember?! : http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=33922.0

As for the Satanic angle for some of the Elite and et al - it make sense to me. It seems a logical explanation for such hatred, apathy and delusions.

You don't get it.  Use honest words.  Hatred is what you exhibit when you destroy others.  You are exhibiting it on yours or your master's behalf.  Since the satanists are only rule breakers, it doesn't work.  They're deceivers, anti tyrannical, rule breakers, rebels, many of the things we consider good (except deceivers, but that's okay against our enemies, right?)  The religious fanatics are control freaks, tyrants, overlords and kill for government.  As I said, I'm not coming under some religious umbrella unless forced to at gun point, not again.  I've seen what that's worth.  My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included. 

"Freedom of religion my ass."   Or something to that effect.
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2014, 03:19:56 pm »

My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included.
EXPLANATION PLEASE?!  (Remember, the LORD is unchanging.  Can't use the excuse.  Have to come up with something far more elaborate.)

It's been covered before - in your very own thread I believe. :)
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2014, 04:59:47 pm »

It wasn't my intent to make this post about satanists.  I thought I was talking about the NWO that Elias used to post a lot about in relation to mind war.  I didn't realize it would bring up so much vitriol. Which is why I deleted my post.
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2014, 05:33:35 pm »

My remarks weren't religious gripes so much as explaining that the SATANIST accusation is a fake strawman accusation designed to INFLAME a certain demographic, yourself and Klapton included.

I'm not inflamed.  I apparently did not communicate effectively in my first post, because Elias misunderstood me too.  All I said was that this was the first I had ever heard of the bogus "Satanist" thing.  I never said I believed it.  It was the first I had heard of it because I don't frequent forums where there's lots of Bible thumpers / people who would freak out at something like that.

My question was whether or not that strawman / lie was a deliberate ploy as part of this whole "mind war" thing.  Did TPTB want to identify people who would freak out about it?  Did they want to make sure that Vallely's march never actually happened?  Maybe their goal was simply to monitor responses on the internet to identify sympathizers, etc.

My plea later to NOT have this become a "God is a meanie" argument is simply because I'm actually learning new things in this thread.  I won't learn anything new from that same old argument I've seen a thousand times before.  I've read the book, like any other intelligent, educated person has, and am simply not interested in reading all the nasty parts of the Bible again.

There were several posts back and forth that were completely NOT on topic, and looked like they were going to be the same dead horse dragged out and beaten yet again.
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2014, 09:07:18 pm »

To that I must retort – MindWar is not meant to be “declared”, for to declare it is to instantly render it impotent. When the target consciousness knows it is being targeted, it shores up automatically, rendering MindWar impotent.

A ray of sunshine? This is intriguing and I want to know more about protecting me and mine - if it's possible?

But further, all of the compositional elements for MindWar operations are clearly now in existence and under a chain of command, as well as plans for sharing authority with a civilian department named the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

I would like to learn more about this...

Thanks, Elias! Keep it coming...
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Re: MindWar
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2014, 01:19:15 am »

Please don't clutter this thread with a religious argument.  Yeah...  Elias said the G-word in his post, but it's really not the point.  I'd like to keep reading and participating in this thread without wading through yet another internet argument consisting of "The God of the Bible is mean" and "Nu uh!"

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Thank you Klapton;
I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't -- mention the satanic aspect of the co-author of "From Psy-Op To MindWar".
There is a role which religion plays in the overall MindWar, but it's not a new role. I am personally an agnostic, for I feel that I do not know enough to make an informed decision about creation, a (the) Creator, or the role religion plays in the psyche of humankind. I just do not know, and I am not in a hurry to know, for "to know" would instantly lock down entire portions of my mind. Belief is a blockage, and all religions except possibly Buddhism, require "faith", which is by definition based on "belief". Whichever portion of a subjective mind holds within its sphere any "belief", is locked out of being "open". Belief is the antithesis of open-mindedness, and therefore I resolved long ago to steer clear of "belief". I prefer an open mind, all the better for the apprehension and comprehension of the ever-recurrent indefinitude of the infinite modalities of the expression of "the being".

Yet mankind has ever sought some source of "authority" outside the individual self, for the most part. A very few in history have realized what Jesus said -- "Know ye not that the kingdom of heaven is within you?".   Your average cretin wants a king, a president, a preacher, even a benevolent dictator, but few there be who are willing to accept the responsibility for their own lives, including the fact that at the very core of their being dwells that force which is characterized in their mythologies, awaiting their re-cognition thereof, which is liberation in a marvelous and miraculous way, but which must be bought with the soul's coinage, minted in courage and a will power to claim full responsibility for one's existence and all the deedery, dreamwish, and damnable daliances the racial consciousness is famous for.

So I hope to see more comments about the meat of the matter, and less focus on specifics, especially the specifics of Aquino's silly-assed religion.

There is a dude named Santilli, or something like that, who read my article last year about the MindWar document and instantly claimed over radio waves and on his website that Vallely was a satanist. His blog was picked up by others who live on the edge of hyper-active fear-states and who clutch instantly for any sensational tidbit life throws their way, nervous Nellies who go off half cocked and distort much with their online antics, pratings, and wailing. That sort read Santilli's half-assed guess and took it to the bank around the Internet, spreading fiat falsehoods and calling it "truth". Their reaction completely took away the perception of the greater threat -- that MindWar is a reality which should be addressed. Just as some here on this thread have thus far missed the point of the thread and have got hung up on personalized interpretations of matters which do not really apply to this discussion, (but we forgive them, yes?), the public at large is as easily distracted from the more central vision and go off in their subjective perceptions muttering and repeating to themselves the contents of their own personal "known". (There is a really cool little book by Jiddu Krishnamurti entitled "Freedom From The Known", which is a written elucidation of what I just said, in case anyone wants to buy another book for their collection.)

Other than its classical usages down the Centuries by compelling egos who fancy themselves "leaders" to control the masses, religion has very little to do with the psychology of mind control, mind manifestation, and MindWar. I would sorta like to keep things focused on the psyche, what a mind is, why some powerful people want to control other peoples' minds, and where they're at with that nefarious endeavor now that we've got machines with central-core artificial intelligence operating in real time at quantum levels, all of which is of course in the hands of our dearly beloved, damned-by-God government.

Which brings me full 'round to a closing point for this post. I posted what I could a couple of nights ago, but had to then get my old ass back to work. Had to take a break. I do have much more to add to this thread, and shall, but I have to fit that task into an already serious overload of obligations elsewhere. Here is a good example of what a tiny part of what I do when I'm not hanging out here --

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=4b046671-2a9e-477d-af83-3e7ab7b9dc68&c=88c1a140-cd6c-11e3-bde6-d4ae5292c38a&ch=8a02fae0-cd6c-11e3-bf00-d4ae5292c38a

I am interested in preventing "martial law" or "martial governance", and I am interested in stopping the insanity called "militarizing local police". Much more than mere religious differences, the militarizing of our police under Federal control is a direct evidence of a deliberate creation of MindWar and its predecessors. Before America could be conditioned to accept a military-police state, much cultural work (damage) had to be done by the globalizing Marxists and socialist progressives in the post-Wilson era, who sat out a century ago to do just that. 1903 marked the transference of the Militia power from the hands of the people to their allegedly "representative" government, and it's gone downhill ever since while the American public was distracted, satiated, stressed, programmed, comforted, entertained, and Feducated with all manner of superfluous mythology, transference, materialism, and delusion etc etc. In that lengthy stupor the forces which would destroy American sovereignty on behalf of a one-world government managed to sell to the public the notion that in any emergency it is the government's right and duty to suspend Constitutionally-guaranteed rights in order to restore "law and order" or "keep the peace". So *that* is an aspect of MindWar.

I will get some more posts up on this thread shortly, hopefully Saturday evening. There are several here I'd like to reply to, especially Jamie, who has already removed a post I had anticipated responding to. I do apologize for being short on minutes.

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Re: MindWar
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2014, 11:31:42 am »


I was damned if I did, and damned if I didn't -- mention the satanic aspect of the co-author of "From Psy-Op To MindWar".

Great post, Elias. I am an agnostic as well. That's why the god/satan aspect did not sit well with me. I'm glad that you included it though, as it could be a part of the bigger picture. To leave it out would not be doing anyone any favors.

I'll be waiting for your next installment with eager anticipation. :thumbsup:
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