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Elias Alias

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Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« on: January 09, 2015, 07:02:11 am »

Let's start something and see if we can help is grow. We have discussed a series of uncomfortable facts regarding the militarization of our police in America, the surveillance state's crimes against the American people, and other aspects of what the U.S. Army called in 1980 "MindWar".

I am noting that the individual mind as well as the group mind (collective consciousness of the USA population) is now in the crosshairs of a government hell-bent on controlling our lives in every minute detail. Fedgov wants to be sure it knows what you've been thinking, and what you will most likely think next. That is all covered in the initial thread called "MindWar".

So I am wanting to collect up a group of hard-hitting liberty fighters, of the Psy-Op sort, who can help me form a Resistance to this MindWar idiocy. I'm open to ideas, but am also discerning and my sixth sense will cause me to accept some and reject other ideas submitted, so don't take anything personal if I do not like something, or if I do. Let your ideas spring onto this board and thereby help us form the Resistance. Once we think we know what we want to do, we'll get something organized.

I would like to introduce one of my friends who has just joined TMM. Her name is Cyrellys, and I'm especially hoping she will help me motivate a "Guerrilla Grrls" Regiment of Psy-Op ladies who are sharp as tacks and keen on liberty and have the guts to fight tyranny face to face. "Cy" is a tireless liberty fighter in her own right, and she brings with her some interesting new perspectives I've not seen floating around these forum boards. ;)

Cy, welcome to TMM and especially welcome to the MindWar Resistance project, which I hope you'll help me organize, eh? ;)

Salute!
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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 01:35:14 pm »

Elias,
 
 One thought I had, just to throw it out there and break the ice.

 To be most effective, whatever message/method you use, has to go viral. TV/cable/youtube whatever. Perhaps one to three minutes of a very funny liberty fighter telling great jokes that either lampooned the state or promoted freedom. There are enough good writers on this forum to come up with that material but of course you would need a personality.

Just throwing thoughts Bro.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 04:12:18 pm »

Elias,
 
 One thought I had, just to throw it out there and break the ice.

 To be most effective, whatever message/method you use, has to go viral. TV/cable/youtube whatever. Perhaps one to three minutes of a very funny liberty fighter telling great jokes that either lampooned the state or promoted freedom. There are enough good writers on this forum to come up with that material but of course you would need a personality.

Just throwing thoughts Bro.

Tahn, that's good thinking. And I really like the idea of humor. Finding the right personality may be a challenge, and making the video is also a challenge. But that can all be done without too much sweat.

About sending it viral, there is an eight-minute video I did about a year ago, I think it was November 2013. That video has had more than three million six hundred thousand downloads on youtube, with no promotional gimmicks at all. It is a highly interesting video of a friend here in Montana asserting himself in a courtroom, to the point the judge got up and left the courtroom, lol. For whatever of various reasons, the danged video is hugely popular and people keep on passing the link around. Check it out for yourself here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VzxxDTnB8

I see that this past week the vid has had more than another hundred thousand downloads, and its number now stands at 3,920,044.

I'd like to learn how that video went viral -- I mean, "why" did that video go viral? I filmed the thing and gave it to Ernie's mom, who handed it off to a friend, and the next thing I knew it was going viral. No promo, no advertising other than word of mouth. 

So that is one example of something going viral. TMM's Resistance To MindWar could go viral if we are able to do as you have suggested - a cool three minute vid with humor and an insightful message about liberty. Tahn, let's talk more about this. Thanks Bro.

Salute!
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http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/snakes-in-suits-paul-babiak/1100609654?ean=9780061147890
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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2015, 04:48:00 pm »

yes that is one reason they still make hemp rope.
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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2015, 04:57:55 pm »

Mother Circe finds humor to be a wonderful tool, but striking fear into the hearts of the indoctrinated might make for a more "viral" experience. Mother Circe advises short electronic video full of shock, awe, doom, cataclysm, fact, truth, and above all... axe to stone truth. Mother Circe sees vast ocean of flesh human indoctrinated vessels. Mother Circe sees value in tough love. Mother Circe smiles from Patmos.
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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 12:51:41 pm »

Let's start something and see if we can help is grow. We have discussed a series of uncomfortable facts regarding the militarization of our police in America, the surveillance state's crimes against the American people, and other aspects of what the U.S. Army called in 1980 "MindWar".

I am noting that the individual mind as well as the group mind (collective consciousness of the USA population) is now in the crosshairs of a government hell-bent on controlling our lives in every minute detail. Fedgov wants to be sure it knows what you've been thinking, and what you will most likely think next. That is all covered in the initial thread called "MindWar".

So I am wanting to collect up a group of hard-hitting liberty fighters, of the Psy-Op sort, who can help me form a Resistance to this MindWar idiocy. I'm open to ideas, but am also discerning and my sixth sense will cause me to accept some and reject other ideas submitted, so don't take anything personal if I do not like something, or if I do. Let your ideas spring onto this board and thereby help us form the Resistance. Once we think we know what we want to do, we'll get something organized.

I would like to introduce one of my friends who has just joined TMM. Her name is Cyrellys, and I'm especially hoping she will help me motivate a "Guerrilla Grrls" Regiment of Psy-Op ladies who are sharp as tacks and keen on liberty and have the guts to fight tyranny face to face. "Cy" is a tireless liberty fighter in her own right, and she brings with her some interesting new perspectives I've not seen floating around these forum boards. ;)

Cy, welcome to TMM and especially welcome to the MindWar Resistance project, which I hope you'll help me organize, eh? ;)

Salute!
Elias


Thank you for the warm welcome Elias.  My apologies for the belated appearance here. 

I am game for your idea, but I'm trying to wrap my 'deep-end' of the pool mind around how this might be done.  One of the things I've always struggled with is that the deeper you go into the paradigm, especially wrt mind war and psy op; the more layers of the onion you peel back the more fantastic the pieces become.  I don't believe in limiting the understanding of my fellows, but at the same time the fantastic often shuts down the best minds out there.  I know you know this. 

For the other members here, an undefined example is that I could not just walk onto any site on the net like OathKeepers and lay out everything I know, suspect I know, or hear in my venues for the purpose of comparing notes with others.  I'd get branded a certifiable nut and run out of dodge.  This is the current state of affairs which is a product of the Mindwar where the goals of system devised constructs built a definition of truth to which the general population has been trained to adhere.  And the general population is VERY well trained indeed.  Some will even react very violently to truths that do not mesh well with their concept of reality.

For those who do not know me, I'm fondly known as Elias's weird friend.  Grin.  I have a rather thick skin...I've been called all sorts of things over the last two decades; just don't call me late to dinner is all I ask! 

When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.  The latter being the most effective approach if you wish to hold ground in the face of the techniques and tools of the opposition.  For some people this is incredibly difficult although it seems at the outset so simple to do.

What I have found useful is to consider what values and goals I prize and orient my focus around these. 

One of my personal central goals is the general welfare of the human potential which is interwoven with the psyche and the soul of every individual and the collective mind of mankind.

The values surrounding the focus include:

Honor (a "face" value of the individual to the community sometimes called "reputation", as well as the product of exercise of moral code and authority)

Loyalty (steadfastness, inalienable property, authentic, unchangeable, dependable)

Hospitality (altruistic, approachability, ability to deal with strangers without hostility)

Justice (coair - in accordance with truth: truth being a cosmic indisputable rightness which human behavior must seek to imitate; also "properly ruled", in conformity with right)

Courage (to measure to reckon, to maintain control over one's emotional mood; a certain hardness or bloodthirstyness with regard to strength in endurance of Character; spirit and mettle)

Elias mentioned the viral video of Ernie and asked why it went viral so fast.  I would from my professional opinion suggest the reason is because Ernie clearly illustrated all of the above principles and done it in a way that was so honest and basic that he shewn anyone can stand against the (proverbial) "man" which is another way of saying the "system".  Facing down the Mindwar can be as simple or complicated as you choose to make it. 

The HARD part is recognizing when you are being 'gamed' in the first place, and I'll be the first to testify on it, that not all is what it seems when you dive in and find yourself confronted with its inhabitants, victims, and regimented assault teams.  Sometimes that which you thought was an enemy turns out to be a victim or group of victims without recourse or relief available to them.  Such people are often more shy than a wild horse and will defend themselves just as vehemently if they think you have turned on them.

One suggestion of where to start is to define, and categorize in importance, what you think the paradigm needs are.  Cover your basics of who, what, where, when, then the how opportunities and approaches for each.

My last bit of advice is that any group doing this must keep in the back of their collective mind that one man's truth is not necessarily the same as the next man's truth.  You must each decide how far over boundaries and comfort zones you are willing to travel in the effort to achieve results or goals (those two not necessarily being the same thing either!).

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 01:19:48 pm »

Elias, I strongly advise that anyone who wants to understand why some individuals in society
damage society without concern for the consequences thoroughly read
Snakes In Suits - When Psychopaths Go To Work
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/snakes-in-suits-paul-babiak/1100609654?ean=9780061147890
It is critical for liberty-minded individuals to understand that there are a few people whose malevolent tendencies
are pathological - you can't help them, you can't cure them, ...
To quote a movie - "There are some people you just can't reach"


This is an excellent suggestion Zeffron.  I have personal experience with a version of this. 

There are two kinds mental absurdity at work in the mindwar. 

The first is involuntary.  The second voluntary.

I've found the pathological dead ends most often occur in the second.  It's not only the constructs of criminals.  IT also includes things like doctrines held within religion, certain applications of moral high ground that results in a bloodlust for recompense, and mistaken beliefs about what constitutes the definition of "compromised" individuals or organizations.

I have seen well meaning people who believed in such strict moral codes that they literally drove away those who sought to participate honestly in paradigm correction and had resources and reach well beyond those gathered in the public venue to do that.

I have also seen mediators denigrated in public forums for attempting to gather together various parties to set the ball rolling in motion.

I have witnessed the "messenger" attacked for bring out(communicating) necessary facets of the situation.

I have seen people who believed the truth of others to be so offensive to their sensibilities ability to recognize as a truth that the offended parties attempted to physically hunt the communication party down in their home and places of employment to effect a public confrontation and stripping of credibility through a public scene.  The same has been done to relatives and friends of communicators and mediators.

I mention this not to scare anyone.  I mention it because anyone seeking to do what Elias has suggested here, needs to know precisely what they are getting in to.  They need to know at least a summary as given above of what has been done in the past and the stakes in the game.

Full Disclosure.  There are people and groups out there who are playing for keeps.  If you intend to enter the mindwar, then you must acknowledge just how much you have at stake and what your vulnerabilities may be.  You must accept that there are potentially very real consequences for engaging the enemy and that the enemy and its peripherals engage in no holds-barred knock-down-drag-out brawls of the worst order.

If you can't take this kind of heat, stay out of this particular kitchen.  It's not for the faint of heart.

If you can.  Then let's do business and give 'em a dose of their own medicine in the form of reversing the damage they've done.

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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2015, 08:56:22 am »

When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.

You left out curling up into fetal position and wishing it wasn't true.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2015, 11:21:15 am »

When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.

You left out curling up into fetal position and wishing it wasn't true.


Lol, you're right.  I just got a good look at that on the other thread I posted on.  And if you disturb the curl, they come out snapping and snarling at anything that moves.  But hey, at least there is some movement...meaning they're still alive.

Grin.

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Re: Psy-War, Psy-Op, MindWar Resistance: Line forms here...
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2015, 11:32:32 am »

Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?

I'm not going to insist it be all ladies.  I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too.  At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight.  So let's start there.

Who yet carries a sword?  Any takers?
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2015, 03:18:46 pm »

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When you delve into the mind war you'll find yourself confronted with two choices...either getting very angry, or remaining open-minded and thoughtful.

Interesting. My "awakening" started as a *spiritual* one then it morphed into a *poltical* one. There are a lot of rabbit holes to fall into out there! I would liken the (poltical awakening) process as the 7 stages of grief, if you will. I have often thought that folks who are waking up from the Matrix pod need to have a coach; similar to what LSD users need when they're having a bad trip. I could really have used one to help calm me down...
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2015, 06:15:31 pm »

Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?

I'm not going to insist it be all ladies.  I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too.  At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight.  So let's start there.

Who yet carries a sword?  Any takers?

Isn't that kind of blowing your OpSec, talking about what you have and are willing to use, on a public forum?
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2015, 08:09:01 pm »

Alright, so what would motivate each of you here to participate in Elias's project on the mindwar?

I'm not going to insist it be all ladies.  I think there is just as much potential to be found among men too.  At this point in the game it is important to find out if there is anyone out there still willing to put up a fight.  So let's start there.

Who yet carries a sword?  Any takers?

Isn't that kind of blowing your OpSec, talking about what you have and are willing to use, on a public forum?
Not necessarily. We're talking about using our MINDS. I am definitely willing to use mine, and don't mind saying so on a public forum. :laugh:

Cy- What are we talking about here? What will participation entail?
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