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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2018, 12:10:33 am »

I arrived after the flounce, and hung out at "TOP" (the other place) as well as this one.  There is a private group on facebook with a handful of that crowd.  Everyone there is long past trying to argue their views with everyone else.  It's just a group of old friends.
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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #91 on: August 13, 2018, 07:22:27 am »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.
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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #92 on: August 13, 2018, 04:13:27 pm »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.

It's a complicated subject, Knobster.  Everyone has a view, ranging from the hate the military and the all military are mindless order followers types to the opposite of that.

Probably no one should be thanked.   Everyone is a volunteer.




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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #93 on: August 14, 2018, 06:37:57 am »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.

Oh your talking about Chicago? you have been there. so you have left hearth and home for a war zone
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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #94 on: August 14, 2018, 06:58:54 am »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.

Oh your talking about Chicago? you have been there. so you have left hearth and home for a war zone
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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #95 on: August 14, 2018, 08:24:15 pm »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.

It's a complicated subject, Knobster.  Everyone has a view, ranging from the hate the military and the all military are mindless order followers types to the opposite of that.

Probably no one should be thanked.   Everyone is a volunteer.

Not really.  In my generation we were given choices: Be of connected family, figure out a runaway from the USofA plan, go to prison, or serve military time.  I was not creative enough to resist. I served 3 years, 8 months and 11 days in the USAF. I would be ashamed to serve them at all today.
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Re: Gulching - A Dissenting View
« Reply #96 on: August 15, 2018, 12:59:09 am »

I am just glad that the flounce off included the guy who never made it out of boot camp  and bragged about being  a Marine.

I really dislike such folks...

I served 6 years in the Air National Guard and never put boots to sand and I feel slightly embarrassed when people say, 'thank you for your service'.  I hardly did anything to earn such thanks.  The guys/gals who left hearth and home to go to some forsaken country and suffer through the heat, dirt, bugs, loneliness, etc and then come home physically/mentally broken are the ones who should be thanked.

It's a complicated subject, Knobster.  Everyone has a view, ranging from the hate the military and the all military are mindless order followers types to the opposite of that.

Probably no one should be thanked.   Everyone is a volunteer.

Not really.  In my generation we were given choices: Be of connected family, figure out a runaway from the USofA plan, go to prison, or serve military time.  I was not creative enough to resist. I served 3 years, 8 months and 11 days in the USAF. I would be ashamed to serve them at all today.

There was a conscientious objector option. I know of at least one individual who objected, not to war in general,  but specifically to the Vietnam war.  He made that clear. It wasn't the definition of a conscientious objector but that was glossed over.  He did alternative service at an Indian reservation.

He paid a price for years because his family and friends thought him a coward. His father had been in Korea or WW2 as well as others in his family. But later the condemnation went away.


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