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WYOMING: consider this...
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:43:50 am »

Of course, all states have their positives and negatives. Hopefully reading some of the experiences of others who are familiar with Wyoming will help you formulate an opinion that is works for you.

For example, Destin has some negative experiences unfortunately. Perhaps he will utilize this specific area to coordinate his thoughts:

I'm doing it specifically to warn potential other movers.  See, most of the other freestate boys and girls I knew who ARE YOUNG (at least as young as I am, or younger) have ALL run off.  Moved out of state, or out of country (I know one personally.)

People burn A LOT OF MONEY moving out here.  Wyoming is cheap rent, but cheap rent plus long travel distances, plus  hostile locals plus low local incomes and businesses unwilling to spend money except with their cousin's cousin's daughter... well, that's a recipe for disaster... financial disaster.

And by all means share your positive experiences, as well! :)
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2015, 10:46:39 am »

Hey Moonie

You could do this with every state.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2015, 11:18:58 am »

I am sure those who feel inclined will do so. I was hoping to be helpful, for Destin specifically, but for all those who would like to share their personal experiences of Wyoming. [I also happen to be one of those individuals who loves/appreciates/needs strong organization! :laugh: ]
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 02:58:08 pm »

From a discussion over here: https://thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=35135.30

Wanna buy my house?  You're probably one of those guys who'd LOVE IT here.  After all, you can shoot guns to your heart's content.  I'll sell for the price I paid for it, and land and outbuildings, won't even charge extra for reflooring the place and putting in wood flooring instead of that ratty carpet people put into homes of all shapes and sizes out here (carpets load up fast out here, regardless of how much you steam them... the dirt/dust/mud that drags even if you leave your shoes at the entrance... is atrocious.)  Carpet is the second dumbest thing anyone living outside the big cities can possibly do...  All taxes paid and I'll be out in three months... interested?  They're selling lots out here for 15 to 16 grand, water, sewer, covenants not enforced (because the busiest of our "code enforcement" busy-body neighbors built the wrong kind of building so enforcing anything would have THEM out on their asses first, I would lose a few grand on this and that, they'd lose house and home... hah!) and we ARE out in the county, so at least, none of the city zoning bullshit applies to us.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2015, 06:30:45 pm »

I'll give you my take on Wyoming...

I moved to Lander in 2012 and can honestly say that it's the best place I've ever lived.  The taxes are lower than anywhere else I've ever lived.  There are a few more "red blooded Americans" here than anywhere else I've ever lived.  The gun laws are great.  The hunting and fishing is great.  The homeschooling laws are pretty darn good.  The economy is (comparatively) strong.  It is sunny and dry most of the time...

While I do love Wyoming, it is not some libertarian/anarchist paradise.  Most people that I meet are either Democrats or Republicans...with capital letters.  Most Republicans don't hold Republican politicians accountable, so a bunch of country club, federal government-groveling neocons run our state. (The year after I moved here our county sales tax went up by 1% and the state gas tax went up 10 cents.) Lander happens to be a fairly liberal town that seems to get progressively more so each day.  I'm in construction, and the public schools I have worked in are covered in pro-LGBT posters.  The local, county, and state governments are extremely bloated with corporate tax dollars.  The local police force has received dozens of M16s and a couple of humvees from the military.  In many ways, Wyoming is not that different from most other places I've lived.

Since moving here, I've had a feeling that within a few years, Wyoming will look very different.  The younger generation here is the same as the younger generation anywhere else, and, once the older generation fades away, this place will change in a hurry - think Colorado but with a low population much more susceptible to rapid demographic shift.  I sincerely hope that's not the case, but I think it's likely enough that I have begun looking at Alaska and a couple of other countries as serious candidates for relocation in the future.  To be fair, I think that most of my complaints about Wyoming could be leveled anywhere.  The fact that Wyoming still has low taxes and good gun laws is a testament to the state.  If 1990 Wyoming had held sway, the place would be heaven on Earth.  As it is, it's still better than anywhere else I've lived.
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Regarding Free State Wyoming, I was an enthusiastic participant on the forum for a while back in 2010.  I soured on the organization for a few reasons in December of that year, and it didn't factor into my decision to move here in 2012.  I have really drifted away from the organization since it became clear that agnostics, atheists, and anarchists weren't particularly welcome on the forum, though I still comment from time to time.  I wouldn't have reservations about living in northeast Wyoming, but I would have reservations about joining Boston's inner circle.  Your mileage may vary...
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2015, 06:25:17 am »

I wouldn't have reservations about living in northeast Wyoming, but I would have reservations about joining Boston's inner circle.  Your mileage may vary...

I live here, and don't know of any "inner circle" for Boston. Seems to me he's alienated just about everyone. Kinda sad, but there it is.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2015, 07:23:21 am »

from what I have read, and heard, is that people got upset with Boston when he did not want to be some political leader there in Wyoming.
He had an idea, and others ran with it, but they still wanted him to be the big leader, and that was something he did not want to be.

Is Wyoming prefect?
no.
does Wyoming have something to offer?
Yes. but it is not for everyone.
But what place is?
I know people that can not think of living anywhere outside of a city.
the thought to do so is so alien to them.
OK, that is their choice. Mine is to be as far out in the country as I can get.
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If we want our grandchildren to be able to give thanks for being Americans, we'll need to.....start steering a course away from government control of our lives-and start moving back toward greater personal responsibility.   Ed Feulner

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That's WY

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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2015, 03:04:53 pm »

from what I have read, and heard, is that people got upset with Boston when he did not want to be some political leader there in Wyoming.


Having known Boston for a very long time, I think I can give my opinion with some veracity. He wanted to maintain absolute control of the FSW name, mission, and how people perceived it, but he wanted no real responsibility for making that happen. Unfortunately for him, and the rest of us, that's not even possible.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2015, 08:08:04 pm »

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"red blooded Americans"

What does this mean exactly?

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Most Republicans don't hold Republican politicians accountable,

If Republican politicians did what they promised it would be a statist hell

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I'm in construction, and the public schools I have worked in

So you're paid by tax dollars?

 
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covered in pro-LGBT posters.

So?

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I have begun looking at Alaska

Besides the communist permanent fund, Alaska is one of the most heavily subsidized states there is.

What else makes Wyoming good or bad in your book?





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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 04:39:32 am »

Is the Bostonian "inner circle" Mormon LDS, or an updated, over marketeerd moniker?  :ph34r:
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 06:49:03 am »

Is the Bostonian "inner circle" Mormon LDS, or an updated, over marketeerd moniker?  :ph34r:

The FSW had no religious basis at all. Boston's claim to fame was built entirely on his books, such as Molon Labe and the Gun Bible - which also had nothing to do with religion. Boston is a Christian, as are many FSW members, but many others were not.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2015, 08:15:43 am »

Molon Labe  - which also had nothing to do with religion.
Did you read Molon Labe? I can't fault you for forgetting the "satanic" motivations/connections of TPIB. It was a very forgettable inference.
Then there's the Playboy interview with Gov Preston (which "happened" this year BTW ^_^). Ref pg 411, et al.
On the forum, any LDS discussion was quite constrained, moderated with a (gold platen encrusted) iron fist.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 08:31:21 am »


Did you read Molon Labe? I can't fault you for forgetting the "satanic" motivations/connections of TPIB. It was a very forgettable inference.
On the forum, any LDS discussion was quite constrained, moderated with a (gold platen encrusted) iron fist.

Yes, I've read it. I've read everything Boston ever published. I see no problems with them beyond the obvious need he's always had for an editor. If you see "satanic" stuff, I'm sorry. All of that is pretty much in the eye of the beholder.  I know Boston damped down any religious discussion at the forum, pretty much. Just part of his desire to control. Everyone could take it or leave it... and most of us have just simply left it at this point. No skin off my nose. It was his organization and his forum to do with as he pleased from the start.
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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2015, 02:54:20 pm »

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"red blooded Americans"

What does this mean exactly?
I bet you get the idea.

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Most Republicans don't hold Republican politicians accountable,

If Republican politicians did what they promised it would be a statist hell
I thought it already was.

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I'm in construction, and the public schools I have worked in

So you're paid by tax dollars?
Sometimes, and I drive on public roads, too!

 
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covered in pro-LGBT posters.

So?
My personal opinion is that LGBTQ lifestyles are misguided and harmful to society...not to mention many of the people who embrace those lifestyles.  YMMV.  If so, we'll agree to disagree.

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I have begun looking at Alaska

Besides the communist permanent fund, Alaska is one of the most heavily subsidized states there is.
No doubt about it.  It's also the most remote, the most undeveloped, and the least densely populated.  I have come to believe that the farther one gets from other people, the easier it is to live one's life unmolested.

What else makes Wyoming good or bad in your book?
I've covered the big points for me.




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Re: WYOMING: consider this...
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2015, 09:38:38 pm »


My personal opinion is that LGBTQ lifestyles are misguided and harmful to society...not to mention many of the people who embrace those lifestyles.  YMMV.  If so, we'll agree to disagree.



 
   So you'd mandate a specific lifestyle for others?
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