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[Novak]

Did I say that?

I don't want anything to do with heroin addicts, but I still think they should be able to use it without harassment.

[StillaGhost]

Did I say that?

I don't want anything to do with heroin addicts, but I still think they should be able to use it without harassment.

 
 
   You didn't answer the simple question. Now I'll be more direct , do you extend the same freedom to those of the sexual orientation you don't approve of that you did to junkies and tweakers?
 

[MamaLiberty]

]My personal opinion is that LGBTQ lifestyles are misguided and harmful to society...not to mention many of the people who embrace those lifestyles.  YMMV.  If so, we'll agree to disagree.

How does anything that is non-aggressive harm "society?"  What do you see as "society?" It is a gathering of individuals, not an entity in itself.  Only individuals can actually do harm or be harmed. When individual homosexuals engage in aggression, as so many seem to do now, using the force of government to impose on others - not only acceptance but forced "approval" or even participation (cakes, etc.) THEN we are getting into real problems, of course. But it isn't "society" that is being harmed, but individuals by individuals. That some of these individuals form groups, both homosexual and other, is beside the point. It is the aggression that is the problem, not the "lifestyle."  And it is people being hurt, not "society."

[Bill St. Clair]

"Every sperm is sacred. Every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God will be irate." -- Monty Python, The Meaning of Life

[heyoka]

Novak,
If I wuz u, I'd refuse to answer on the grounds that it might tend to incinerate me. 

[StillaGhost]

Novak,
If I wuz u, I'd refuse to answer on the grounds that it might tend to incinerate me. 

 
 
  Really? Is this yet another "stir the pot" comment?
 
    Look ML pretty much hit the nail on the head as regards the general sense , however though Novak is free to associate with only those he chooses to ( just as everyone else) what is attempting to be established is whether or not he's willing to.....
 
 
  Live and let Live.

[Chase]

I'm not sure how requiring the government tfor o treat you like they treat everyone else is aggression, but whatevers on that.

My "So?" to his complaint about posters had nothing to do with the content of said posters, it was meant to ask why is it any of his business what's on someone else's wall, he's hired to do a job at that location, it would be no different than if he was hire to remodel a home and then had a hissy about them having guns.

Someone is already writing a rebuttal saying "but this is a public school paid for by tax dollars" yes, and yes too that public schools shouldn't exist, but they do and when Novak lined up at the trough for taxpayers money he loses any credibility in complaining about the very entity that's paying him

[Baked at 420]

I'm rooting for Chase. Other than that, I don't have much to add other than that I'm currently dating a dude.

 

[StillaGhost]

I'm rooting for Chase. Other than that, I don't have much to add other than that I'm currently dating a dude.

 

 
 
   Yeah I'm pretty much in agreement with him. And I personally could give two shits who someone sleeps with , it's none of my business.
 
  It's become customary for some folks to apply arbitrary labels that are inherently divisive rather than just judge people on their actions.

[Novak]

[quote aillaGhost link=topic=35145.msg436569#msg436569 date=1435754771]

Did I say that?

I don't want anything to do with heroin addicts, but I still think they should be able to use it without harassment.

 
 
   You didn't answer the simple question. Now I'll be more direct , do you extend the same freedom to those of the sexual orientation you don't approve of that you did to junkies and tweakers?
[/quote]

Shocking as it may be for you, yes, I do.

[Novak]

]My personal opinion is that LGBTQ lifestyles are misguided and harmful to society...not to mention many of the people who embrace those lifestyles.  YMMV.  If so, we'll agree to disagree.

How does anything that is non-aggressive harm "society?"  What do you see as "society?" It is a gathering of individuals, not an entity in itself.  Only individuals can aally do harm or be harmed. When individual homosexuals engage in aggression, as so many seem to do now, using the force of government to impose on others - not only acceptance but forced "approval" or even participation (cakes, etc.) THEN we are getting into real problems, of course. But it isn't "society" that is being harmed, but individuals by individuals. That some of these individuals form groups, both homosexual and other, is beside the point. It is the aggression that is the problem, not the "lifestyle."  And it is people being hurt, not "society."

Poor word choice. (Society)  I agree with the notion that aggression can only be directed at individuals rather than some collective group.

[Novak]

I'm not sure how requiring the government tfor o treat you like they treat everyone else is aggression, but whatevers on that.

My "So?" to his complaint about posters had nothing to do with the content of said posters, it was meant to ask why is it any of his business what's on someone else's wall, he's hired to do a job at that location, it would be no different than if he was hire to remodel a home and then had a hissy about them having guns.

Someone is already writing a rebuttal saying "but this is a public school paid for by tax dollars" yes, and yes too that public schools shouldn't exist, but they do and when Novak lined up at the trough for taxpayers money he loses any credibility in complaining about the very entity that's paying him

How about they argue that government cease to exist, or, at minimum, that government get out of licensing marriages altogether?  If they find someone to marry them, so be it as long as it's not the government - federal, state, local, or otherwise.

Lined up at the trough, huh?  I bet there's not a single person here who does not derive income from tax dollars.  Sell organic produce?  What if a schoolteacher wants to buy some?  Do you refuse them because they've "lined up at the trough?". Write books?  Do you refuse me a book because I'm a private sector employee who worked on a government-funded project?  What if that private sector employee purchased organic produce from the farmer who used the money to buy something from you?  Now you're " lining up at the trough. ". Get off your high horse, idiot.

[heyoka]

I'm rooting for Chase. 
 

Naw, I'm joining the saggy fan boy's club. It's super kwel when he turns green and gets all puffed up and rips his shirt n' shit.

[Novak]

I still reserve the right to be a bigot, just one who doesn't agress upon anyone else.

[heyoka]

Welcome to the forum. Just understand we likes to do a short arm inspection straight away. Just makin sure you ain't one o them.