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was Eve framed

yes
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WTF?
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heyoka

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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2016, 09:02:02 am »

Not framed, maybe entrapped.
A creator who knows everything you will do before you do it, then punishes you for doing *exactly* what he created you to do, knowing you would do it.
Which is not so different from the way gubmint enforces a lot of mala prohibita, with double reverse stings and such.

I've known several women named "Eve."
were any of 'em framed?
Actually yes. I worked with another nurse who was accused of wrongdoing. After careful investigation by the house supervisor and the DON, it was discovered that another nurse actually did the deed, then tried to make it look as if Eve had been responsible. Nasty business.
Did she(?) have a special rapport with snakes?

I voted WTF. That way, I can participate without participating. :threvil:
Strategic, if maybe too clever by half. Thanks for participating.
thx to others too
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2016, 01:00:11 am »

wonder how old she was when eating the forbidden fruit. . . . . a babe at 50 yrs. . . or midlife at 450 yrs?
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2016, 07:01:26 am »

wonder how old she was when eating the forbidden fruit. . . . . a babe at 50 yrs. . . or midlife at 450 yrs?
Or is that moons? :laugh:
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2016, 09:07:52 am »

maybe age degeneration started when they ate the apples :huh:
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2016, 09:25:39 am »

maybe age degeneration started when they ate the apples :huh:
Nah. Many people in the Bible lived way longer than is possible. It wasn't just the supposed first people. IMHO, either something was lost in translation (most probable), or there was alien DNA mixed with cro-magnon for the first two, and was genetically watered down over the years (least probable).

I think that the "moons" suggestion is possible. For example, Adam is stated to have lived 930 years. Using a "lunar month" in place of years would calculate to 75 years old. (29.53x930=27462.9/365=75.241) That seems more plausible.

Of course that doesn't always work. Moses is said to have lived 120 years. Using the same formula, that would make him only 9 1/2 when he died. :dontknow:
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2016, 09:45:16 am »

Cab Calloway
It Ain't Necessarily So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOgH5f36cQ
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2016, 09:51:17 am »

Cab Calloway
It Ain't Necessarily So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOgH5f36cQ
:laugh: That was great! :thumbsup:

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Live clean, don' have no fault
Oh I takes dat gospel whenever it's pos'ble
But wid a grain of salt
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2016, 12:49:06 pm »

base on the book of Numbers, out of the Bible.
the age of people started to drop after the flood.
before the flood, age was several hundred years, after the flood, just under a hundred years.

maybe something happen that caused aging after the flood? 
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2016, 01:07:14 pm »

was it hot :huh:
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2016, 11:04:49 pm »

If she was framed, that implies she did nothing wrong, but was accused of wrong doing with false testimony to support the claim.

I suppose that is a possibility, but no version of the story portends she never sampled the forbidden fruit.

If God knows all, why would he punish an innocent person who was framed?

No, she was not framed. Was she deceived (tricked)? Yes.
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2016, 07:55:13 am »

was Eve framed :huh:


Humanity was framed!
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2016, 09:00:46 am »

excellent point
welcome to the forum
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2016, 10:19:40 am »

Genesis 6:3 - ". . . . My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

confusing because this is just before Noah, who lived over 600 years
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2016, 02:36:09 pm »

And what gave God the authority to tell Eve what she could not eat? He gave her free will, and then he tried to thwart it with arbitrary rules. Make up your mind, you not-quite-supreme Being, you. :)

God's intention is to test our resolve in finding our way back to him. Rather than forcing his will, He sets the parameters and punishments, and turns you loose. If you screw up, you pay the price. If you get it right, you reap the reward. One could argue that is still forcing his will, but He is giving each of us the opportunity to choose purity over evil. In His realm, evil is not an option.  If He ruled with an iron fist, your options would be revoked and your bacon fried. Sounds to me like He is extremely patient and loving to offer us so many chances to get it right instead of hammering us to the cross without hesitation. It's so much easier to reject than to understand. Ask anyone who has had a near death experience. I promise you, God does exist, and He loves you. He wants to reward you. His message makes it clear that He wants all to return to Him, but those who cannot live their lives for Him and those who reject Him, will not be allowed to return home. It's an easy concept, but a difficult task.
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Re: Was Eve Framed?
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2016, 02:45:32 pm »

excellent point
welcome to the forum

Hey, hey.  Thanks for the welcome.

The "story" gets hinky straight away.

In all the land there were only the beasts(and that pesky evil snake :~) and Adam & Eve.
After Adam 'knew' :sex: Eve they begat Cain & Able.
After a time, Cain 'knew' his wife and begat Enoch.

Where did Cain get his wife from?  There is only one way, with/from Eve.

Enoch begat Irad, who begat Mehujael, and Mehujael begat Methushael,
and Methushael begat Lamech, etc.

Where did all of these other wives to 'know' and begat with come from?

So, either God introduced incest into the human plan and, like the apple, later
said 'NO, NO!' or there was some other 'immaculate' stuff going on that was
not noted in the book.

It only gets hinkier from there.
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