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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #210 on: July 08, 2016, 08:45:28 am »

Oath Keepers is a privately held Nevada corporation. Its primary mission is to provide income for Rhodes. He screwed up and got disbarred from the practice of law, so OK is his only meal ticket.  It may be that at the beginning, his passion was based on principles. He seems to have abandoned those principles, as he demonstrated by ignoring the oath he took when he became a lawyer. You can't be both an oath keeper and an oath breaker. OK will eventually be run into the ground, crash and burn, because of Rhodes.
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I don't think that Thucidydes understands the difference of what Stewart took an oath to, which is more monumental than that of an attorney's oath if any.  The Oath that Stewart stands behind is that of protecting the Constitution.

He's this guy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQe9nUKzvQ


So, you're trying to say I'm Malcolm X, and you're Rhode's House Negro.  Sounds about right.
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #211 on: July 08, 2016, 09:02:59 am »

So, you're trying to say I'm Malcolm X, and you're Rhode's House Negro.  Sounds about right.
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #212 on: July 08, 2016, 09:25:19 am »

So, you're trying to say I'm Malcolm X, and you're Rhode's House Negro.  Sounds about right.

Name calling, back and forth insults are not well tolerated here. If you have something to say about the topic, you are welcome to post. Just keep it impersonal, thanks.
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #213 on: July 08, 2016, 11:05:27 am »

Oath Keepers is a privately held Nevada corporation. Its primary mission is to provide income for Rhodes. He screwed up and got disbarred from the practice of law, so OK is his only meal ticket.  It may be that at the beginning, his passion was based on principles. He seems to have abandoned those principles, as he demonstrated by ignoring the oath he took when he became a lawyer. You can't be both an oath keeper and an oath breaker. OK will eventually be run into the ground, crash and burn, because of Rhodes.
Klapton,
I don't think that Thucidydes understands the difference of what Stewart took an oath to, which is more monumental than that of an attorney's oath if any.  The Oath that Stewart stands behind is that of protecting the Constitution.

He's this guy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQe9nUKzvQ


So, you're trying to say I'm Malcolm X, and you're Rhode's House Negro.  Sounds about right.

Yeah...  Because I work for him...

I'll spell it out for you.

You are either a lawyer or an LEO.  You serve your master, the state.  But you don't just serve your master, you love your master.  Rhodes defied your masters and walked away.  You are now embittered and furious that one of your fellow slaves left the plantation.

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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #214 on: July 08, 2016, 11:10:53 am »

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« Reply #215 on: July 08, 2016, 11:17:50 am »

Hey Dog,
Ya got some corn to share?
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« Reply #216 on: July 08, 2016, 11:40:36 am »

You are either a lawyer or an LEO.  You serve your master, the state.  But you don't just serve your master, you love your master.  Rhodes defied your masters and walked away.  You are now embittered and furious that one of your fellow slaves left the plantation.

Klapton... did you read the new rules for TMM?  This is a personal attack. Regardless of whether or not you think it is true, it is not going to be tolerated here by Elias. Further attacks will earn you a time out...  and I'm going to start deleting the posts pretty soon too. If anyone doesn't like it, they should ask Elias. Wasn't my idea, exactly. :(
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #217 on: July 08, 2016, 01:16:09 pm »

Re: oathkeepers.net

Before the domain mixup of a while back, the Oath Keepers forums were at oathkeepers.net. They are now at https://www.oathkeepers.org/forums/

I'm having the same connectivity problems today that I had yesterday and the day before. OathKeepers.org works fine from TMM's web server in New York City and from my NearlyFreeSpeech.net machine in Arizona, but doesn't work via my Comcast connection in southern Vermont.
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #218 on: July 08, 2016, 01:22:30 pm »

You are either a lawyer or an LEO.  You serve your master, the state.  But you don't just serve your master, you love your master.  Rhodes defied your masters and walked away.  You are now embittered and furious that one of your fellow slaves left the plantation.

Klapton... did you read the new rules for TMM?  This is a personal attack. Regardless of whether or not you think it is true, it is not going to be tolerated here by Elias. Further attacks will earn you a time out...  and I'm going to start deleting the posts pretty soon too. If anyone doesn't like it, they should ask Elias. Wasn't my idea, exactly. :(

He did it last time I called out this boot-licker.  He can do it again if he wants.  He can keep doing it until he has no friends left to play if that's how he wants to run his playground.

Call it a personal attack, or just call it an explanation why the same guy keeps coming back with new user names after being booted, only to resume HIS personal attacks on Stewart.

So, have fun.  Do what you think is right.  Or not.

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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #219 on: July 08, 2016, 01:35:04 pm »

So, have fun.  Do what you think is right.  Or not.

That's exactly what I'm trying to do... and it isn't easy. :( 

You have no obligation to defend Stewart, I think, with or without personal attacks. Could you perhaps mention the facts you dispute and, maybe, cite where better information can be found?  The argument is probably at least part of what brings this person back, but I'm not aware of a problem with him. If you find someone who is doing troll stuff, please use the report feature and let me know. I don't normally monitor this section much at all, and would appreciate the help.
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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #220 on: July 08, 2016, 01:57:26 pm »

So, have fun.  Do what you think is right.  Or not.

That's exactly what I'm trying to do... and it isn't easy. :( 

You have no obligation to defend Stewart, I think, with or without personal attacks. Could you perhaps mention the facts you dispute and, maybe, cite where better information can be found?  The argument is probably at least part of what brings this person back, but I'm not aware of a problem with him. If you find someone who is doing troll stuff, please use the report feature and let me know. I don't normally monitor this section much at all, and would appreciate the help.

The facts in dispute are the manner and motive of Stewart walking away from practicing law.  He explained the whole thing on Oath Keepers' private forum, which our friend can access for the low, low price of just $40.

He didn't get fired, he quit.  That's the long and short of it.

Now this guy wants to get all frothy about abandoning clients and breaking his oath to be a good minion of the state's enforcement apparatus.

When repeatedly asked if he was a lawyer or LEO, he obfuscated every time.

Conclusion:  he's a good little minion of the state's enforcement apparatus who is hell-bent on besmirching a man who defied and left it because it's evil.  The metaphor of the house negro is perfect.

As for being obligated to defend Stewart...  I'm not obligated to do diddly, include play nice to make Elias happy.  Skip the part about it being his house.  Yeah, I'm also not obligated to hang out here either.

So, if Elias doesn't want me to hang out here anymore, that's OK.  I won't stop speaking truth or water it down for anyone.  This is me.  I'm not changing who I am because Elias wants his forum to more wussy-friendly.

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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #221 on: July 08, 2016, 02:20:48 pm »

Apparently Stewart Rhodes did not quit, he was disbarred:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jjmacnab/2015/11/02/oath-keeper-founder-at-risk-of-being-disbarred/#7c6243c62dda

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Re: Oath Keepers Website Down?
« Reply #222 on: July 08, 2016, 03:05:02 pm »

In deference to the requests to maintain decorum, I will refrain from responding to personal attacks.  I don't know what he is ranting about, and don't care.

ArcLighter is correct.  Rhodes was disbarred.  Even if he said, in not so many words, "You can't fire me, I quit!" doesn't make it so.

Rhodes screwed up, big time.  When called to explain himself, he whined about being persecuted, and refused to answer. That's not quitting, that's negligence.
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« Reply #223 on: July 08, 2016, 03:14:44 pm »

In deference to the requests to maintain decorum, I will refrain from responding to personal attacks.  I don't know what he is ranting about, and don't care.

ArcLighter is correct.  Rhodes was disbarred.  Even if he said, in not so many words, "You can't fire me, I quit!" doesn't make it so.

Rhodes screwed up, big time.  When called to explain himself, he whined about being persecuted, and refused to answer. That's not quitting, that's negligence.
Guess who else quit before being disbarred? Both Barrack and Michelle Obama. Don't believe me? Look it up. :mellow:
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« Reply #224 on: July 08, 2016, 03:20:55 pm »

Yeah, I'm also not obligated to hang out here either.

Your choice. I do have an obligation to Elias, and the rest of TMM... and I have the authority to carry it out.  Attacking Elias was possibly not your best decision today. 7 day time out...
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