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Author Topic: Missouri Passes Constitutional Carry-Stand Your Ground-Expands Castle Doctrine  (Read 2641 times)

Tahn L.

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The basis of this whole bill is that it allows law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families," Republican sponsor Sen. Brian Munzlinger said.
The override vote means Missouri will join 10 other states with laws that allow most people to carry concealed guns even if they haven't gone through the training required for permits, according to the National Rifle Association, which supported the legislation.

The measure, described by supporters as "constitutional carry," allows people to carry hidden guns anywhere they can currently carry weapons openly, effective Jan. 1. People who choose to still get a concealed-carry permit could potentially carry their weapons into places off-limits to others and could take them to states with reciprocal agreements.

The legislation also would create a "stand-your-ground" right, meaning people don't have a duty to retreat from danger any place they are legally entitled to be present. The NRA says 30 states have laws or court precedents stating people have no duty to retreat from a threat anywhere they are lawfully present. But Missouri's measure makes it the first new "stand-your-ground" state since 2011.

It also expands the "castle doctrine" by allowing invited guests such as baby sitters to use deadly force if confronted in homes.

http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2016-09-14/gun-rights-voting-restrictions-up-for-overrides-in-missouri
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Allows?  :huh:
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Allows?  :huh:

To allow is to not impede. It grants nothing and requires nothing, but allows people to do what they will concerning their self defense. I suppose it would have been clearer to say that it removes legal impediments. Vermont has this one right. There just aren't any statues concerning guns, except a ban on carrying them into school buildings. But Vermont is sorely lacking a stand your ground clarification, so if you actually USE your gun to defend yourself, you must prove in court that you had no realistic avenue of escape.
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To allow is to not impede.

That may be one definition, but it doesn't apply here. The "legislature" is the one doing the "allowing" here, partially, with prejudice and only for as long as they please. In this case, to "allow" is to grant permission from one in "authority" to those who are subject. Nothing else.

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