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Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« on: November 14, 2016, 04:56:54 am »

http://www.newparadigm.ws/articles/police-facial-recognition-cameras-track-our-every-movement/

Soon, just about everywhere you go, police will be using facial recognition cameras to track your every movement. Police facial recognition cameras are being used on bridges, tunnels and CCTV cameras to name a few.
Cops use facial recognition cameras on bridges, tunnels, airports and transit hubs

"New York [City] is increasingly a target of threats to security. In recognition of this threat, the New York Crossings Project will integrate emerging technologies into the security design of bridges and tunnels across the state, deploying additional personnel and equipment. At each crossing, and at structurally sensitive points on bridges and tunnels, advanced cameras and sensors will be installed to read license plates and test emerging facial recognition software and equipment. These technologies will be applied across airports and transit hubs – including the Penn-Farley Complex – to ultimately develop one system-wide plan."

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Re: Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2016, 08:03:33 am »

Wasn't there a book about this?

oh yea, it was called "One Nation, under Surveillance" 
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Re: Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2016, 08:56:51 am »

For a much more hopeful and entertaining look at the subject...

RebelFire: Out of the Gray Zone Paperback – May, 2005
by Claire Wolfe (Author), Aaron Zelman (Author)
[Please use the link to Amazon from Claire's blog page. http://www.clairewolfe.com/blog/]

Jeremy has a dream: To be the greatest lightmaker for the greatest west coast rock band, RebelFire. But what can he do? He's just a kid. A kid trapped in a prison-like school. Trapped in a world where dreams are “treated” with drugs – and roving patrols make sure you take your dose. Trapped in the Zone, where travel without a permit is impossible. Trapped under the all-controlling eye of spycams, sensors, and monitors. Trapped by the chip in his wrist that regulates everything Jeremy can – or can't – do. Trapped in a world where some far-off control freak can even decide what music he's allowed – or forbidden – to hear. Jeremy's only choice is to shut up and do as he's ordered. But some people were never meant to be controlled ... Enter the world of "RebelFire: Out of the Gray Zone". Experience the book. Hear the music. The first four chapters can be read online at www.rebelfirerock.com
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Re: Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 04:55:52 am »

"Rebelfire", "Logan's run", "the matrix" and lots of films that I've seen that are the same but don't remember the titles of.  Films, not reality.  However, this is reality.  I used to watch a film about this sort of thing, or read a science fiction book about a surveillance society, as a child, and think "how could people be so stupid as to get themselves into situations like that for a start?"

This sort of thing is never imposed on a society, the society - or at least the majority of that society - must embrace it, "call" for it, wish it on others (but "my desire to control others is so great that I don't mind 'complying' with surveillance myself, because 'I have nothing to hide'".  Then it gets totally out of control but it is too late to reign it in, because once governments have been given a power, they never give it up.

In 1971, the year I left school, I read a book called "the naked society" by Vance Packard.  It dealt with the emerging "collection of knowledge about people" by governments and companies, and peoples' bizarre willingness to comply and provide information.  I was pretty arrogant in what I thought I knew at the time (still am probably) and not very mature, and I thought he was exaggerating and the things he said would not actually be, in my lifetime anyway - but they are here, only a lot worse, and it is scary.

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Re: Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2016, 06:28:17 am »

Guys, I've said this before, I'll say it again.  Its government worship which is the problem.  I don't care about private surveillance.  I run cameras of all sorts on my own properties.  I don't "TRACK" my people or strangers, but I do check to see if anyone's opening things they shouldn't be, taking things they shouldn't be, or contaminating samples or chemicals they shouldn't be.  THAT is what this stuff is for.  The surveillance society takes this many steps further... and in fact, it tells you who gets to own the vast mass of bleating morons.  Am I mean?  Probably.  Am I right?  Sometimes I really wish I wasn't.  Here's the catch.  When you aren't interacting with me, you aren't on camera, I don't usually keep records, unless about a day where something very suspicious happened, and otherwise don't particularly care what others do, as long as they don't do it to my stuff.  Pretty basic.  Keeping an eye on my property when my eyes aren't there, or asleep.

As for facial recognition cameras, what facial recognition means is not this movie like NSA/CIA/Jason Bourne bullshit.  Facial recognition means the camera can recognize "this is a face" and identify the image as such.  Turn on your iphone or android phone or even your Sharp Zaurus, if you can afford a full blown linux palmtop / phone device.  Now aim the selfie camera straight at yourself (the one by the proximity sensor that dims the keypad when you put it to your ear) and look at those green, red or yellow dots or squares that show up around your face on the preview.  THAT is "facial recognition" technology.  It identifies that "this area contains a face."  These images can then be used as hashes for logins, or other such things.  I've dealt with homeland sec, and facial recognition is the norm on most of their laptops.  Yes, they got swipe cards and passwords, but when using only a password, for the average goon, is too brain taxing and they resort to shit like "password" or "mom" or "$name" or "$birthday" or some other easily guessed idiocy.  Hence why the fancy passwords known as face pic hash.  The laptop or desktop camera takes a pic, converts it to numbers, takes a hash of certain coordinates and colors, and bam, insta password.  It is a system built to coddle IDIOTS.  It always will be.  Those of us with a brain that works already know to segregate important things with strong passwords or a swipe card (which is an encoded strong password) or, better yet, two factor or multiple factor authentication, and everything else with what we'd consider a weak password, but what would still be a very strong password to the average folk.  Looking at the absence of care in most of the goons, one understands why the so called "society" rejected Eugenics for the peasants.  If we'd all eliminated our weaklings and depraved members of society, all the ruling class and enforcing class would be gone, and I wouldn't have to clean porn trojans with embedded bios hooks from commercial servers.  (And Hillary's followers wouldn't have reportedly clicked on a baited link in an email, either.  And these were the people supposed to run a security service?  I wouldn't let them run a kiosk at the mall!!)

This whole mess of "tracking everyone, all the time" is idiotic at best, and all it can do is create false positives, while also invading privacy.  As we see, the crooks themselves treasure privacy, even as they advocate for permanently removing ours.  Anonymous exposed Hillary's emails and Hillary went ballistic.  Some people simply do not care about privacy of others, but you can see how much they care when their own is at stake.  Some people are extra touchy about it even with friends.  And they aren't always "criminals" either.  Criminals know how to keep secrets.  Honest people are the morons who give up their privacy thinking that it will somehow curtail criminals, if they give the most criminal class of society, the government, access to everything.  You'd think these idiots would have learned from the past, but then again, look at how many people voted for Hillary AFTER all the wikileaks stuff and all the Anonymous stuff came out.  (Hint: Even the Mossad joined in to ruin the mini she-wolf. (megadeth anyone?))  Regardless your feelings on Trump or Gary Johnson, we can all agree that in a mostly-sane society, after all the leaks, Hillary should not have had any votes except from the undead (almost 3 million of whom have been accounted for, so far, according to my own sources) and the criminal element, who always vote for their own hoping for favoritism.  Lets face it, we know government is a bad thing, and generally bad people take to it (and it corrupts the good people) but even so, it only continues to exist because we have denied eugenics and have permitted and emboldened our worst, and denied our best.  Retarded kid?  Sure, help him with the best, most expensive care, make sure he breeds, etc.  Bully kid?  Give him protection from other kids fighting back, because... "we don't want violence in our schools."  On the other hand Smart kid?  Drug him up, punish him, and make him submit to his inferiors at school, protect the bullies from his wrath, etc.  Out in the world?  Scumbags get to bully people and nothing gets done.  Smart guy says "enough" and gets even?  Cops ruin him.  Where's the justice?  I'm talking real, even, cosmic / recognizable justice, not this BS where "we gave him a fine."  What we have today, folks... is reverse eugenics.
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Re: Police facial recognition cameras track (y)our every movement
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2016, 07:17:08 pm »

One thing that worries me about this "accepted" surveillance system is the fact that (in America at least - so far) there is so much potential for a person's life to be ruined, utterly destroyed.

A friend couple I have know for several years, who were originally American but moved here in 2004 and have lived her ever since with no seeming intention of living anywhere else, have recently split up and the husband has gone back to America.  They have three grown kids who don't know whose "side" to take and so are living here but visiting their father regularly.  The wife said to me "I really didn't see it coming but it is utterly devastating.  I wish I knew his social security number because, in America, if you have someone's SSN you can totally ruin them".  She is very bitter at the moment and I hope she would actually never do such a thing.  However, this made me realise that the potential is there.  Could/does this sort of thing happen?

Also, the "driving licence" database worries me.  In 1998 (I have described it before, somewhere on this forum) our country's government illegally and sneakily imposed a "driving licence database" on us.  The high court eventually ruled that it was all illegal and should never have been imposed in the first place but the judge said he was refusing to "overturn it because to do so would cause chaos and mayhem".  As a concession it was finally ruled that the digi-images of drivers on the database (which should never have existed in the first place) would never be shared with anyone other than the transport department FOR PURPOSES OF TRANSPORT MATTERS.

Anyway, just about a whole generation of drivers has been born since then and most people don't realise this, or just don't care.  Most novels I read (American novels) have the police, or even a lawyer or the lawyer's investigator, "pulling someone's picture" off the driving licence database" to use as an identity check when visiting that person or just seeing what they look like.

That might not specifically be "face recognition software" but it is definitely NO PRIVACY surveillance. As NZ always follows America (or UK - they're probably the same, I don't know) will all and sundry be checking up on my grandchildrens' pictures on the database?  Or it might happen sooner, my childrens?  And the most horrible thing about all this is that I have never met a young person who actually cares about this.
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