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Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« on: February 26, 2017, 07:56:35 pm »

Proposed Executive Order Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’

By the authority vested in me as President and Commander in Chief of the Militia by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to ensure the ability of citizens of the United States to defend themselves, their communities and their States, as well as to ensure the safety and security of our Nation, I hereby order as follows:

(a)  The AR-15 and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, magazines of up to thirty round capacities, M-7  bayonets, and ammunition in 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington, in all quantities.

(b)  The M1A and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, magazines of up to twenty round capacities, M-6 bayonets, and ammunition in 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester, in all quantities.

(c)  The M1 Garand and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, M-5 bayonets, and ammunition in.30-’06 Springfield, in all quantities.

(d)  Bolt action rifles in the calibers of .30-’06 Springfield; 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester; 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington; or any substantially equivalent caliber, and ammunition appropriate for the rifles, in any quantity.


http://worldofguns.info/2017/02/25/proposed-executive-order-designating-certain-rifles-for-militia-purposes/
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2017, 10:02:45 pm »

I have problems with magazine limits, I know that the M1A has gvt issued 25rnd ags that come in handy!! What about other military calibers, ie. 8mm, 7.62x39, 6.5. All have legitimate uses, just no military suppy chain to involve. Why only "made in the USA"?
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2017, 06:52:27 am »

So this EO is being drafted/reviewed in order to be sent to prez?  And if he signs in, then what?  All able-bodied folks will receive a bunch of toys in the mail?  Or is this just an order that states the mentioned firearms won't be vilified by law enforcement anymore?
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2017, 07:02:12 am »

Hey Colonial Shooter, why not ask the people that can answer that?

my .02 is that they are going to change the scary black rifle into something useful, not that they never were useful.

and it may very well be that it has something to do with the supply chain.
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 07:24:41 am »

So this EO is being drafted/reviewed in order to be sent to prez?  And if he signs in, then what?  All able-bodied folks will receive a bunch of toys in the mail?  Or is this just an order that states the mentioned firearms won't be vilified by law enforcement anymore?

AerialDemonMutt's first post contained a selected excerpt of the actual proposed EO, the full text of which is at the link. He left out that the list is militia rifles the possession of which will not be infringed by any US government at any level. It also says, "This list could be expanded or replaced by a broad definition". The broad definition would be a good idea, in addition to the explicit list, since a list alone will be interpreted as being complete, and a broad definition will be misinterpreted.
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2017, 09:30:05 am »

So this EO is being drafted/reviewed in order to be sent to prez?  And if he signs in, then what?  All able-bodied folks will receive a bunch of toys in the mail?  Or is this just an order that states the mentioned firearms won't be vilified by law enforcement anymore?

AerialDemonMutt's first post contained a selected excerpt of the actual proposed EO, the full text of which is at the link. He left out that the list is militia rifles the possession of which will not be infringed by any US government at any level. It also says, "This list could be expanded or replaced by a broad definition". The broad definition would be a good idea, in addition to the explicit list, since a list alone will be interpreted as being complete, and a broad definition will be misinterpreted.

Well, we have been told not to show the entire article in a post. just parts of it along with a link. 
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2017, 11:24:52 am »

Well, we have been told not to show the entire article in a post. just parts of it along with a link.

And you did very well on that score, but you missed a sentence describing the purpose of the list, which you could have distilled from the text, rather than quoting that long paragraph. No biggy. Confusion clarified.
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Re: Designating Certain Rifles for ‘Militia Purposes’
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2017, 12:22:55 pm »

<snip> the list is militia rifles the possession of which will not be infringed by any US government at any level. <snip>

Excellent.  Thanks for the clarification Bill.
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